' Vincent Tan here's your 0% '

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

Yes, I think we should take the directors box back by force too.

Ive not told you to do that have I?

If you want your blue back then Tan has told you how, not only that but common sense and more importantly - even history tells you how.

The fact it isnt being done tells me the lure of Prem football and wild spending placed on the future of the club is far more appealing which is why these meaningless protests are lauded as some brilliant movement.

The fact is, you are doing nothing.

Protests, Banners, Songs. It's all been done, next step is physical force. Your so full of shit Roathy it's unbelievable, Id love to see what you would do if the shoe was on the other foot.

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

Yes, I think we should take the directors box back by force too.

Ive not told you to do that have I?

If you want your blue back then Tan has told you how, not only that but common sense and more importantly - even history tells you how.

The fact it isnt being done tells me the lure of Prem football and wild spending placed on the future of the club is far more appealing which is why these meaningless protests are lauded as some brilliant movement.

The fact is, you are doing nothing.

Protests, Banners, Songs. It's all been done, next step is physical force. Your so full of shit Roathy it's unbelievable, Id love to see what you would do if the shoe was on the other foot.

Bollocks they have. If done then they have been done by a handful of people or weak in execution.

The shoe WAS on the other foot, Petty was running our club into the ground and we marched in our thousands with a simple petty out directive, we chanted petty out for 90 mins of EVERY game, we made his life hell and ensured there was only one outcome - and there was.

Can you imagine of he turned is red?! Wouldnt bare thinking about. Colin Addison said it was like nothing he had ever seen before amd that includes the turbulant off field time he had at Atletico Madrid where the fans were against the chairman.

You want the club back, then you have the ability to do so. What we have seen so far has been absolute bollocks.

You havent even done a fraction of that and there was only 4,000 of us back then in league 2.

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

So how would getting Tan out benefit the club if ripped apart? Rebuild own by Maverics? How bout this? Sell players who we overspent on last summer, sell players on high wages, get a manager who IS PROVEN on building a sustainable squad and making profits on players. And hold on! Turn the loans when Premier league is in the horizon again. How would that sound? Could this be a way? Btw, this was the question i asked you

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

So how would getting Tan out benefit the club if ripped apart?

but you would be ripping apart something you all claim to hate. The club would be debt free, you would probably be blue and you could then live and build within your means... Or does the fact that you may not be flirting with the top end of the championship make this less appealing and thus prefer the humungous debt and the red kit? In which then begs the question - why complain?

Rebuild own by Maverics? How bout this? Sell players who we overspent on last summer, sell players on high wages, get a manager who IS PROVEN on building a sustainable squad and making profits on players.

ok, so you get £30m for the players. That leaves you with an average championship side and still £70m in debt and probably growing due to the amortisation of historical transfers and contracts you can not dump. You were losing £1.2m a month last time you were in the championship without your overspent Prem players remember.

And hold on! Turn the loans when Premier league is in the horizon again. How would that sound? Could this be a way? Btw, this was the question i asked you

what do you mean "turn the loans"? Ive told you many times, debt to equity will never happen. Not on the scale you are suggesting anyway. Im amazed nobody seems to be ale to see this. And how would orem be on the horizon when you have just sold all your players?

Why does this have to turn into a Tan Out thread? It was created to show the picture if how blue the away end was. Something we should be proud of

Take one guess who derailed this thread???? the same freak show that derails all the threads on this forum, a forum that is being dragged into the gutter by roathie.

To get the thread back on track listened to the game on the radio and the fans who went were immense. Commentators commenting on it regularly and referring to the support as" to a man all in blue" . On seeing the pictures what a sight and it's getting more every game. Well done to all that travelled

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

So how would getting Tan out benefit the club if ripped apart?

but you would be ripping apart something you all claim to hate. The club would be debt free, you would probably be blue and you could then live and build within your means... Or does the fact that you may not be flirting with the top end of the championship make this less appealing and thus prefer the humungous debt and the red kit? In which then begs the question - why complain?

Rebuild own by Maverics? How bout this? Sell players who we overspent on last summer, sell players on high wages, get a manager who IS PROVEN on building a sustainable squad and making profits on players.

ok, so you get £30m for the players. That leaves you with an average championship side and still £70m in debt and probably growing due to the amortisation of historical transfers and contracts you can not dump. You were losing £1.2m a month last time you were in the championship without your overspent Prem players remember.

And hold on! Turn the loans when Premier league is in the horizon again. How would that sound? Could this be a way? Btw, this was the question i asked you

what do you mean "turn the loans"? Ive told you many times, debt to equity will never happen. Not on the scale you are suggesting anyway. Im amazed nobody seems to be ale to see this. And how would orem be on the horizon when you have just sold all your players?

So you are saying Tan made the error when he invested his 6 millions in the first place [quote]Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands. /quote]And the only way he can get his money back is to strip the club assets (or find an investor stupid enough to take the losses), and the only way the club can get our identity back (im guessing this means our color and badge) is to go into administration, league two and rebuild with what ever means we got going for us at the moment. You are criticizing fans for not doing enough holding up scarfs and do a sensible protest, standing up for the identity and not have the balls to run the club the the ground (according to your own profitable logic)
How would it make sense to listen to a "Tan out whipping boy" for a Cardiff City fan when he wish the club back to scratch?
Tan focked up, Milky focked up even bigger, but it can be fixed mate, no doubt about that

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape your Sister before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape your Sister before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

So how would getting Tan out benefit the club if ripped apart?

but you would be ripping apart something you all claim to hate. The club would be debt free, you would probably be blue and you could then live and build within your means... Or does the fact that you may not be flirting with the top end of the championship make this less appealing and thus prefer the humungous debt and the red kit? In which then begs the question - why complain?

Rebuild own by Maverics? How bout this? Sell players who we overspent on last summer, sell players on high wages, get a manager who IS PROVEN on building a sustainable squad and making profits on players.

ok, so you get £30m for the players. That leaves you with an average championship side and still £70m in debt and probably growing due to the amortisation of historical transfers and contracts you can not dump. You were losing £1.2m a month last time you were in the championship without your overspent Prem players remember.

And hold on! Turn the loans when Premier league is in the horizon again. How would that sound? Could this be a way? Btw, this was the question i asked you

what do you mean "turn the loans"? Ive told you many times, debt to equity will never happen. Not on the scale you are suggesting anyway. Im amazed nobody seems to be ale to see this. And how would orem be on the horizon when you have just sold all your players?

So you are saying Tan made the error when he invested his 6 millions in the first place

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands. /quote]And the only way he can get his money back is to strip the club assets (or find an investor stupid enough to take the losses), and the only way the club can get our identity back (im guessing this means our color and badge) is to go into administration, league two and rebuild with what ever means we got going for us at the moment. You are criticizing fans for not doing enough holding up scarfs and do a sensible protest, standing up for the identity and not have the balls to run the club the the ground (according to your own profitable logic)
How would it make sense to listen to a "Tan out whipping boy" for a Cardiff City fan when he wish the club back to scratch?
Tan focked up, Milky focked up even bigger, but it can be fixed mate, no doubt about that

1) no, ive quite clearly said that Tan can profit to the tune of £15m, that isnt an error.

2) why would you be in administration? Administration is when you cannot afford to pay your debts... If he asset strips you there wont be any debt.

3) you would rather red and piling debt than a blue club starting again debt free in the championship? Thats insane.

^^^^^ Very ironic from a swan.

^^^^^ Very ironic from a swan.

In what way?

Why does this have to turn into a Tan Out thread? It was created to show the picture if how blue the away end was. Something we should be proud of

Take one guess who derailed this thread???? the same freak show that derails all the threads on this forum, a forum that is being dragged into the gutter by roathie.

I just gave a single opinion. Not my fault of people wish to discuss it with me.

If you dont like it then you know where the cyber door is

^^^^^ Very ironic from a swan.

In what way?

With your previous cva and administrations so not paying off your debts. I'd rather pay people what they are due

^^^^^ Very ironic from a swan.

In what way?

With your previous cva and administrations so not paying off your debts. I'd rather pay people what they are due

Not sure if you know about thise details or just lashing out on hear say.... but we didnt have a choice. It was that or cease to exist and they still not get 100% of what they are due. Which would be disastrous for the companies involved as they have profited massively from us continuing to trade... Hence why they voted "yes" to the cva. A bit like what you did with Sam Hammam last season.

Im not sure what that has to do with anything I just wrote though. Who is suggesting not paying anyone what they are due?

^^^^^ Very ironic from a swan.

In what way?

With your previous cva and administrations so not paying off your debts. I'd rather pay people what they are due

Not sure if you know about those details or just lashing out on hear say.... but we didnt have a choice. It was that or cease to exist and they still not get 100% of what they are due. Which would be disastrous for the companies involved as they have profited massively from us continuing to trade... Hence why they voted "yes" to the cva. A bit like what you did with Sam Hammam last season.

Im not sure what that has to do with anything I just wrote though. Who is suggesting not paying anyone what they are due?

^^^^^ Very ironic from a swan.

In what way?

With your previous cva and administrations so not paying off your debts. I'd rather pay people what they are due

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

So how would getting Tan out benefit the club if ripped apart?

but you would be ripping apart something you all claim to hate. The club would be debt free, you would probably be blue and you could then live and build within your means... Or does the fact that you may not be flirting with the top end of the championship make this less appealing and thus prefer the humungous debt and the red kit? In which then begs the question - why complain?

Rebuild own by Maverics? How bout this? Sell players who we overspent on last summer, sell players on high wages, get a manager who IS PROVEN on building a sustainable squad and making profits on players.

ok, so you get £30m for the players. That leaves you with an average championship side and still £70m in debt and probably growing due to the amortisation of historical transfers and contracts you can not dump. You were losing £1.2m a month last time you were in the championship without your overspent Prem players remember.

And hold on! Turn the loans when Premier league is in the horizon again. How would that sound? Could this be a way? Btw, this was the question i asked you

what do you mean "turn the loans"? Ive told you many times, debt to equity will never happen. Not on the scale you are suggesting anyway. Im amazed nobody seems to be ale to see this. And how would orem be on the horizon when you have just sold all your players?

So you are saying Tan made the error when he invested his 6 millions in the first place

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands. /quote]And the only way he can get his money back is to strip the club assets (or find an investor stupid enough to take the losses), and the only way the club can get our identity back (im guessing this means our color and badge) is to go into administration, league two and rebuild with what ever means we got going for us at the moment. You are criticizing fans for not doing enough holding up scarfs and do a sensible protest, standing up for the identity and not have the balls to run the club the the ground (according to your own profitable logic)
How would it make sense to listen to a "Tan out whipping boy" for a Cardiff City fan when he wish the club back to scratch?
Tan focked up, Milky focked up even bigger, but it can be fixed mate, no doubt about that

1) no, ive quite clearly said that Tan can profit to the tune of £15m, that isnt an error.

2) why would you be in administration? Administration is when you cannot afford to pay your debts... If he asset strips you there wont be any debt.

3) you would rather red and piling debt than a blue club starting again debt free in the championship? Thats insane.

1. Yes you said, he can strip the club of any asset, take the money and run. That would be an error when he can build a sustainable club. You say he wont take the one mill loss every month, then who will?

2. Uhhm. Because the club still runs expenses, with no funds to invest or increase the income for foreseeable future. That includes players or any infrastructure the club need. (Having sold everything everything to cover Tans loss)

3. No, i would like the club built with a sustainable squad for the future, not gamble on silly investments like Medel. I want the club to buy and develop talent, and i have no doubt that can be done one day in blue.

My question remains even though you said if it where your money, you would run. No one is picking an argument but you, encouraging people to bury their club with nothing but a silly day trading argument. How could you build this into a profit? Not impossible to answer?
Certainly not by converting any debt at this point. And i believe he will. I even believe he would turn the club back to blue just to get the support back and keep building the club. Look like the swans got their own problems to sort out

Not sure if you know about those details or just lashing out on hear say.... but we didnt have a choice. It was that or cease to exist and they still not get 100% of what they are due. Which would be disastrous for the companies involved as they have profited massively from us continuing to trade... Hence why they voted "yes" to the cva. A bit like what you did with Sam Hammam last season.

Im not sure what that has to do with anything I just wrote though. Who is suggesting not paying anyone what they are due?

What? If he asset strips you he will profit.

If he is owed £80m as he says then he can sell all your players and net himself £30 million at least, he can bank the £20m parachute money, the £7m season ticket money, sell the real estate for the training ground £10m or lease it to you forever, sell his shares for at least £15m and can set up as many sponsorship contracts in his companies names as he wishes.

Thats £100m worth of asset stripping right there. If he is owed £85m then he takes a £15m profit for 3 years work. Not bad.

However of you think he will continue ploughing £1m a month into the club to hope it can go straight back up wheile the amortised transfer fees of the premiership build up and depleat his safety net and carefull worked out risk to reward rario then you are in cuckoo land.

When lets not forget, promotion to the premiership lost the club £60m. It is not the guaranteed profitable place he (and others) thought it was.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

So how would getting Tan out benefit the club if ripped apart?

but you would be ripping apart something you all claim to hate. The club would be debt free, you would probably be blue and you could then live and build within your means... Or does the fact that you may not be flirting with the top end of the championship make this less appealing and thus prefer the humungous debt and the red kit? In which then begs the question - why complain?

Rebuild own by Maverics? How bout this? Sell players who we overspent on last summer, sell players on high wages, get a manager who IS PROVEN on building a sustainable squad and making profits on players.

ok, so you get £30m for the players. That leaves you with an average championship side and still £70m in debt and probably growing due to the amortisation of historical transfers and contracts you can not dump. You were losing £1.2m a month last time you were in the championship without your overspent Prem players remember.

And hold on! Turn the loans when Premier league is in the horizon again. How would that sound? Could this be a way? Btw, this was the question i asked you

what do you mean "turn the loans"? Ive told you many times, debt to equity will never happen. Not on the scale you are suggesting anyway. Im amazed nobody seems to be ale to see this. And how would orem be on the horizon when you have just sold all your players?

So you are saying Tan made the error when he invested his 6 millions in the first place

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands. /quote]And the only way he can get his money back is to strip the club assets (or find an investor stupid enough to take the losses), and the only way the club can get our identity back (im guessing this means our color and badge) is to go into administration, league two and rebuild with what ever means we got going for us at the moment. You are criticizing fans for not doing enough holding up scarfs and do a sensible protest, standing up for the identity and not have the balls to run the club the the ground (according to your own profitable logic)
How would it make sense to listen to a "Tan out whipping boy" for a Cardiff City fan when he wish the club back to scratch?
Tan focked up, Milky focked up even bigger, but it can be fixed mate, no doubt about that

1) no, ive quite clearly said that Tan can profit to the tune of £15m, that isnt an error.

2) why would you be in administration? Administration is when you cannot afford to pay your debts... If he asset strips you there wont be any debt.

3) you would rather red and piling debt than a blue club starting again debt free in the championship? Thats insane.

1. Yes you said, he can strip the club of any asset, take the money and run. That would be an error when he can build a sustainable club. You say he wont take the one mill loss every month, then who will?

why would it be an error? His goal was to make money and he would have made £15m.

If it was that easy to build a stable and self sufficient club then everyone would do it. That is a lot of hard work and takes an awful long time, probably would experience a relegation or two while the rebuilding process happens. Can you see Tan wanting to do that? No.

You dont have to lose a million a month to run a football club, however in order to get instant success then that is the kind of scenario you are looking at. Why would Tan gamble £12m a year when its unsecured loans - its mental.

2. Uhhm. Because the club still runs expenses, with no funds to invest or increase the income for foreseeable future. That includes players or any infrastructure the club need. (Having sold everything everything to cover Tans loss)

and the club would still have income, you have another £30m of parachute money from the season after and sponsorship in the current one.

3. No, i would like the club built with a sustainable squad for the future, not gamble on silly investments like Medel. I want the club to buy and develop talent, and i have no doubt that can be done one day in blue.

not under Tan. Which is the point.

My question remains even though you said if it where your money, you would run. No one is picking an argument but you, encouraging people to bury their club with nothing but a silly day trading argument. How could you build this into a profit? Not impossible to answer?

ive not once told anyone to bury their club have I? The fact you see a debt free club having to live within its means as a club "buried" says it all about the mentality of cardiff fans.

Certainly not by converting any debt at this point. And i believe he will. I even believe he would turn the club back to blue just to get the support back and keep building the club. Look like the swans got their own problems to sort out

he wont convert the debt at any point. Im not sure why you cant grasp that. Would you buy a happy meal for £150? No neither would Tan.

If you class our situation as "problems" then you must have pulled every strand of hair you have out of your head

[quote][/quoteIf it was that easy to build a stable and self sufficient club then everyone would do it. That is a lot of hard work and takes an awful long time, probably would experience a relegation or two while the rebuilding process happens. Can you see Tan wanting to do that? No.

Thank you Yes i believe that, and thats where we differ.

[/quoteIf it was that easy to build a stable and self sufficient club then everyone would do it. That is a lot of hard work and takes an awful long time, probably would experience a relegation or two while the rebuilding process happens. Can you see Tan wanting to do that? No.

Thank you Yes i believe that, and thats where we differ.

So you think Tan will sell all the players, get free transfers in on a shoestring thus rendering your team initially pretty rubbish. take relegation and build slowly but surely over a decade for the slight chance of prem football again.

If that happens I will personally give you £10,000 and buy £10,000 worth of cardiff merchandise to help with the rebuilding.

Complete lala land.

Bookmark it.

[/quoteIf it was that easy to build a stable and self sufficient club then everyone would do it. That is a lot of hard work and takes an awful long time, probably would experience a relegation or two while the rebuilding process happens. Can you see Tan wanting to do that? No.

Thank you Yes i believe that, and thats where we differ.

So you think Tan will sell all the players, get free transfers in on a shoestring thus rendering your team initially pretty rubbish. take relegation and build slowly but surely over a decade for the slight chance of prem football again.

If that happens I will personally give you £10,000 and buy £10,000 worth of cardiff merchandise to help with the rebuilding.

Complete lala land.

Bookmark it.

Cheers, but ill go trusting what Ole already told me. Btw, just made an easy 800 on chelsea, Cheers again

1) yep the great custodian who has been here all of 2 mins - Ole who also probably wont be here when the shit hits the fan

2) post the screenshot of the bet. Sounds like an after timer to me

1) yep the great custodian who has been here all of 2 mins - Ole who also probably wont be here when the shit hits the fan

2) post the screenshot of the bet. Sounds like an after timer to me

Well, from what im told they learned a thing or two last year, constructing a 5 year plan rebuilding. Like you said, it takes time and commitment! Very good weekend betting! All my bets on Cardiff, Liverpool and chealsea came through

Screenshot?

Screenshot?

You have some trust issues. Hard to believe i put down a buck on Cardiff, Liverpool and Chelsea to win?
A nice little triple wouldt you say?

Screenshot?

You have some trust issues. Hard to believe i put down a buck on Cardiff, Liverpool and Chelsea to win?
A nice little triple wouldt you say?

I have a thread on the other forum where I screenshot every bet I place and is about $50,000 in profit.

It takes seconds. I pride myself on spotting a betting fibber, see 12th man for details.

Prove me wrong