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Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:25 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Vincent Tan - I think a major factor towards our demise a lack of unity and a poisonous relationship between Cardiff & its fans which Tan is ultimatly responsible for. I knew this season would be a struggle - but a team managed by malky OR OGS would be playing better now with a unified fan base behind them

2. The current results?
See above answer

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
The Fans have done well to continue supporting the team in my opinion - Tan has isolated his own fan base and many find it difficult to solely focus on the team when our off the field problems are made public

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
It is down to Tan - He is ultimately making OGS and the players jobs impossible

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?

I think that OGS is the best option we have at the moment - i cannot see any other respectable manager coming to us after the shite this year - Tan needs to go for us to improve

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:32 pm

Northwest_Bluebird wrote:1. OGS
2. OGS
3. A little, our support particually at home has been directed towards tan rather than behind the team at key times
4. All of them
5. Change of Manager Defo (OGS will not be able to cope in the Championship)



In complete agreement ^^^ :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you blame for the way we are currently playing?
Currently it's got to be OGS.

2. The current results?
OGS and players

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
No

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Tan and both managers

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Change. I believe OGS is tactically inept.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:51 pm

1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? - Ole

2. The current results? - Tan & Ole

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? - No way

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? - 70% owner, 20% manager 10% players

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season? change deffo

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?

2. The current results?

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?

One man to blame and that is vinny tan.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Indirectly I blame Tan for sacking perfectly good manager who was respected by the fans, club and players who gave everything for Malky and more. I cannot blame Ole really because he was never proven in this league or championship league so that was completely unnecessary gamble.
2. The current results?
I blame myself for the results because if I stayed true to Cardiffs traditions as a Bluebird playing in blue and supporting in blue instead of half buying into the red, then i was partly to blame for causing the fan divide which has weaked our 12th man. Sorry Boys I let you down and the club down but better late than never. I will give 500% support from now on in as a true bluebird.
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Yes some sold their soul & I was one of those I am ashamed to say and this caused divide.
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
It Is my fault for not supporting them in true Blue. I cannot blame Tan for my choice to be a red. I must face up and be accountable for the fact i bought into a big fat lie.
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?

Fresh start...Lets change our manager for at least a proven manager that has worked in the championship. Ole has not even proven himself in Championship league. I don't want to be fooled again. The Crim

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:10 pm

"5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Players

2. The current results?
Players and manager

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Errr...let me think...NO!

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Owner, Malky, Players, Ole - in that order.

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Keep until we've seen results following a fair crack at rebuilding the squad.

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Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:20 pm

1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Manager/owner . not keeping a settled side .players brought in no better than the one's we had apart from Daehli who is one for the future.

2. The current results?
Manager: forever changing players & tactics every game
Players: some just turning up for the wages
Zaha should never wear a city shirt again
K.JONES no better than Rudy. Mason or Maynard.

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
No but should get behind the team more at games rather than the re brand

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
All of them

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Change : out of his depth could do a free fall. :bluescarf:

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:20 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?

2. The current results?

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?


1. I have only been disappointed with Palace if I am honest I think there were too many players that didnt really want to be there. Whos fault? Well surely Ole thought those players would have given their all... but too many of them let themselves and the club down on saturday.

2. In some games we have been unfortunate, some games we were not as good as the opponents. But the players and coaching team and the manager are there to get results..so them.

3. What can we do? We have always shown the players our support and we have backed our club. Especially our away support!

4. Well it has been a joint effort on all fronts. Malky made a couple of risky signings, Tan did not handle the whole situation in the correct way and distracted the team and also the whole bonus bollocks. On some occasions the players have not turned up. Ole maybe did just buy for the sake of it in january.

5. Well I can not see why Ole shouldnt be given a chance, its not just sacking Ole but getting a manager who is better and that wants to come and work under tan and co.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:35 pm

1. Ole mostly and a handful of the Players - judging by his comments on "Loyalty" today - Some players EG Smith, Jones, Zaha, Turner and Taylor need to be shipped out.

2. As above - Ole as manager,the buck stops with him...... but if certain players are NOT playing his tactics, then them too surely?

3. Nope - Tan. Fans have simply REACTED to events at the club, and have not orchestrated them in any way.

4. All of them, but to different degrees. Too Many players have "gone missing" at crucial times this season, BOTH managers made dodgy signings in comparison to Hull and Palace, and Tan too must take blame for the media circus and sacking that cost us stability and the chance of staying up.

5. Change. Sorry but we need an experienced hand at Championship / Lower end Premier league experience to get us up. I keep thinking a McCarthy / Warnock figure.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:41 pm

1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
TAN

2. The current results?
TAN

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Nope, just TAN

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
TAN

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Don't care as long as TAN goes... but prefer others than OGS

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:55 pm

Ole for his constant changes.And Tan for his constant cock ups.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:00 pm

" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? OLE

2. The current results? OLE

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? NOT AT ALL

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? MANAGERS TO BLAME

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?[/quote] CHANGE MANAGER

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Ole should have settled with his first 11, using subs when needed. Replacements for injury. We are not a top 5 club with quality to rotate.

2. The current results?
Ole, first 11 not consistent and as a result not settled.

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Too the extent of little or no atmosphere. We go quite for too long.

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
All to blame but first and foremost the owners and that includes the board for not standing up to the great dictator. Moral must be effected by what happens at the top. Leave the football to the football people, I have no problem with a director of football to stop Cornelius situations from happening. We can't afford to take punts by paying extortionate fees.

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
If he carries on with his rotation system a new manager please. Change for injury and players who have a drop in form, make players fight for their place in the side. He need s to tighten up the defence.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:23 pm

. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? Manager

2. The current results? Manager

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? No

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? Owner

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season? Change

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:25 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:just another loaded questionnaire bollocks
the questions are loaded in such a way to have another go at ole (thought we were supposed to support our manager)
my questions
1 who do you blame for the shit squad ole inherited
2 who do you blame for spending close to 50 million and not improving our squad sufficiently
3 who do you blame for the rift between tan and malky
4 who do you blame for airing the rift between tan and malky in the media
5who do you blame for malky not getting sacked early enough
wonder how many will truthfully answer these 5 questions hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :bluescarf:


This^^^ and this.......

pembroke allan wrote:1 malky for wasting and buying crap players
2 malky because ole didnt have enough time to get decent players to replace crap bought by malky
3 doesnt mattter
4 everyone cant blame one person for failures
5 ole as he deserves same time as malky


if you think my first two answers are rubbish its because they are loaded questions, eg manager is always responsible so can only be one answer, same for second question !!! :old:

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:36 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
No one - We were sussed after 6 games. We are not good enough

2. The current results?
No one - We were sussed after 6 games. We are not good enough and are even worse when trying to play


3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Yes -Its a shit atmosphere

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Owner - Not enough football nounce to realise that he should sack malky after we were safe or at the end of last season

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?

Undoubtably keep - His players, get rid of the deadwood, his tactics in an easier league

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:41 pm

1. Ole. Sack him.

2. The players. Sack them too.

3. Yes. Add them to the sacking list. Do you hear that, you will soon all be sack. You will receive a letter.

4. The referees for not got giving us penalties. Sack them.

5. Sack him. I want to sack all managers in the world, and employ myself instead. :evil:

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:33 am

This is coming from a fan in Australia and I can only go off what I read on here and what I see on the news etc


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?

Everyone. Its a team effort. Some players aren't putting all their hearts into it, Ole isn't getting the best out of everyone (Zaha), The fans and the whole rebrand shit is disturbing the players. And Tan for bringing all this shit on us

2. The current results?

Players. They are the ones out there and they all aint giving 100%

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?

Partly. We all should of been supporting the club. Throwing our support behind the team. But no all we wanted to do was bring bad media coverage about the rebrand. Singing songs about Tan Out. We should of been supporting the team during the season and giving them everything we had. Then as the season ended get on Tans back (As there is nothing he can do during the season)

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?

All of them. Its a TEAM effort

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?

Im on the fence on this one. Ole has shown some good point but he really needs to find that team and stick with it. Stop trying to put in the rotation policy that Man U had because we don't have the quality that they do.

Tho I wouldn't say no to a high profile manager to come in and start again

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:20 am

1. Malky
2. Malky
3. Yes. Horrid set of fans. Always moaning about something, way before the rebrand. We got to a cup final as a championship team and then people wanted the mjanager sacked cos he didnt win it!?!?!?! Worse than the geordies.
4. Malky
5. Yes. Needs a summer transfer window to sort through the wankers Malky left him.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:46 am

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?

Combination of the manager not getting the best out of his players, and (some of) the players for not working hard enough.

2. The current results?

The manager primarily for picking the wrong team, and adopting the wrong tactics. Man for man City players are as good as palace players, but palace had a game plan, and easily coped with the managers half brained attempt to beat them.

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?

Not in any way at all.

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?

The owner has to take the blame for not backing his manager when things got tough. The manager and Moody have to take the blame for a very poor pre season spend. The owner was at fault for not sacking Mackay as soon as the relationship was beyond repair. The owner has to take the blame for not replacing him with a proven manager at a higher level than the backwaters of Scandinavia. The new manager has to take the blame for a very poor January window. The manager has to take the blame for tinkering too much, not picking the correct team and not adopting the correct tactics for each match. The manager has to take the blame for failing to get the best out of his players. Some of the players have to take the blame for not following his tactics (however flawed they were) and not giving it 100%.


5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?


The owner should have sacked him on Saturday. Appoint Steve Clarke.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:35 am

very disappointed in you annis and a few others who wouldn't answer my questions
wernt they to your liking
or don't they fit your agenda
were they loaded in the wrong way
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :bluescarf:

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:04 am

1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? -

Tan - he poisoned the club, the staff, players and fans. He gave with one hand and took away with the other, the hand he gave with was laced with poison, which in turn, is why we are the club we are, off colour and severely unwell!

2. The current results- Tan (as above) the core of all of our problems.

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? No -

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? Owner as above.

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Keep what we got, let him establish himself, but Tan keep your beak out of anything to with match day football, it's not your territory, never will be!

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:15 am

Some of the answers on here must have been gathered off the sunshine bus

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:13 pm

1. Players not passionate or good enough
2. Bad signings players not premiership quality
3. No
4. All
5. Keep Ole

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:43 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?

I find it hard to blame, a style/philosophy takes while to be put into place and work quite consistently.

2. The current results?

I don't know, the manager and team are going for most games now which is a sight to see.

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?

Hard to say, I just hate the constant blame on these so called plastics from our true fans for atmospheres. The true fans don't even pull their finger out their self so go for the simple option of blaming so called plastics. Our atmo has been shocking for a while so I don't know where this plastics excuse has came from.

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?

Owner and Malky, owner for his constant negativity he brings to the club and Malky for milking us dry of 50 million. Outstanding how fans will sing everything positive about him.. shows the delusional side.

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?


Keep the manager.

Re: " 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:45 pm

Forever Blue wrote::oops: Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.




" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "

Lets All be honest then :thumbup:


1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?

Ole decides tactics and picks the team

2. The current results?
the team lack of fight

3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
yes more interested in slagging off tan instead of getting behind the team

4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
On the pitch both managers and the players

5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?

undecided