I counted yesterdays protest marchers.

Police ESTIMATE is not bang on the figure is it..so not a fact.

If you read my post correctly, I said it was a fact that the police gave such an estimate.

However, A police estimate is far more reliable than a man who suggests that he counted by hand the protesters, who's also been against he march since it's inception.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

True.

I worked nights all week so was never going to make it with a weekend shift to do too, I can't complain if we never seethe return to blue I want if I don't put in the effort to get it back though.. Would guess if everyone in a similar position to me turned up we would have many more thousand.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

Making a "Red" teams home stadium "Blue" seems like a protest to me.

Fast forward a few years,we're still in red and someone asks what did you do to try and get the colour blue back that you so dearly love,and your response is i held up a scarf and sang a blue song for a minute.

Hardly a protest really if your honest with yourself is it

If everyone on the march who seem very passionate about the blue sat outside the stadium Saturday now that would've been a protest and a big statement but no they went in and watched what Vincent Tan served up.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

Making a "Red" teams home stadium "Blue" seems like a protest to me.

Its always been the case barring the odd event like scarfgate.

Your club has 100 years of blue. Anyone that hasnt bought merchandise in 2 years will only have blue. Its hardly a protest to wear the away colours or indeed to continue as normal, it happens in every club up and down the country. I have the purple and yellow away top for us too.

The fact that the fans still wear red clearly bothers Tan. Otherwise he wouldn't have had red scarf night... Nor would he have told fans to wear red at the supporters dinner.

It's obvious that wearing blue at a Cardiff game these days is totally different to fans wearing away colours at other clubs.

I know this isn't going to be a popular post but as a really committed City fan I just wanted to inject a realistic view of the numbers in yesterdays march.

I didn't walk the walk, mainly because, even though I'd like City to play in blue, I was worried that some fans, possibly fuelled with drink, would take the chance to make it a match against Tan and I don't think that's a solution we need just now.

Anyhow I waited close to the supporters club office to lend my applause to the finishing marchers and I also decided to do a head count. Obviously I didn't count every single person but took an average of how many were passing me over a given period and working from there. I think my numbers would be as close as anyone else's, particularly the press and media who take great delight in reporting via comments like 'many thousands marched' etc.

I reckon around 1200 went past me. If I allow an error of another 300 then the total looked to me to be about 1500 tops and defo not the 5000 I've seen mentioned elsewhere.

That's an honest opinion and not meant as any slight on our fans but just a genuine reflection on what I saw.

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There is no way you counted every single person who attended, that's total bullshit.

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

Making a "Red" teams home stadium "Blue" seems like a protest to me.

Its always been the case barring the odd event like scarfgate.

Your club has 100 years of blue. Anyone that hasnt bought merchandise in 2 years will only have blue. Its hardly a protest to wear the away colours or indeed to continue as normal, it happens in every club up and down the country. I have the purple and yellow away top for us too.

I think that Saturday, was the first step in the supporters regaining their dignity and unity once more. For as long as Ive been going (over 40 years) I don't think I have seen so many supporters with Blue and White scarves on and wanting to wave them. It wont really matter soon, if we still play in Red with the dragon badge, as the supporters that matter, those that actually go along and watch City home and away will have decided that they will remain Blue and any supporters who so far have accepted and worn the Red will just stop wearing it and join the rest. I can see very soon that the whole support will all be in Blue I should add that I never bought club merchandise, was never into wearing it or waving a scarf, but I bought one at the start of the season and 70s shirt. Annis is a prime example as well, he wouldn't have been seen dead in a football shirt back in the day, many, many are like this, so for us it isnt normal at all to be waving scarves or wearing club colours.

There is no way you counted every single person who attended, that's total bullshit.

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People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

Making a "Red" teams home stadium "Blue" seems like a protest to me.

Its always been the case barring the odd event like scarfgate.

Your club has 100 years of blue. Anyone that hasnt bought merchandise in 2 years will only have blue. Its hardly a protest to wear the away colours or indeed to continue as normal, it happens in every club up and down the country. I have the purple and yellow away top for us too.

I think that Saturday, was the first step in the supporters regaining their dignity and unity once more. For as long as Ive been going (over 40 years) I don't think I have seen so many supporters with Blue and White scarves on and wanting to wave them. It wont really matter soon, if we still play in Red with the dragon badge, as the supporters that matter, those that actually go along and watch City home and away will have decided that they will remain Blue and any supporters who so far have accepted and worn the Red will just stop wearing it and join the rest. I can see very soon that the whole support will all be in Blue I should add that I never bought club merchandise, was never into wearing it or waving a scarf, but I bought one at the start of the season and 70s shirt. Annis is a prime example as well, he wouldn't have been seen dead in a football shirt back in the day, many, many are like this, so for us it isnt normal at all to be waving scarves or wearing club colours.

A lot of truth in what u say, until Huddersfield home the first home league game our team wore Red, I had never worn a BLUE City shirt at a match(on hols every day) and from and including that night, I have worn something BLUE at every City game Ive attended, it means that much to me.
Many other City have done the same

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

Making a "Red" teams home stadium "Blue" seems like a protest to me.

Its always been the case barring the odd event like scarfgate.

Your club has 100 years of blue. Anyone that hasnt bought merchandise in 2 years will only have blue. Its hardly a protest to wear the away colours or indeed to continue as normal, it happens in every club up and down the country. I have the purple and yellow away top for us too.

I think that Saturday, was the first step in the supporters regaining their dignity and unity once more. For as long as Ive been going (over 40 years) I don't think I have seen so many supporters with Blue and White scarves on and wanting to wave them. It wont really matter soon, if we still play in Red with the dragon badge, as the supporters that matter, those that actually go along and watch City home and away will have decided that they will remain Blue and any supporters who so far have accepted and worn the Red will just stop wearing it and join the rest. I can see very soon that the whole support will all be in Blue I should add that I never bought club merchandise, was never into wearing it or waving a scarf, but I bought one at the start of the season and 70s shirt. Annis is a prime example as well, he wouldn't have been seen dead in a football shirt back in the day, many, many are like this, so for us it isnt normal at all to be waving scarves or wearing club colours.

A lot of truth in what u say, until Huddersfield home the first home league game our team wore Red, I had never worn a BLUE City shirt at a match(on hols every day) and from and including that night, I have worn something BLUE at every City game Ive attended, it means that much to me.
Many other City have done the same

It's a funny thing, Annis and quite ironic, but now that the 19.27 scarf waving has been put in place, many, if not all will want to be part of it, so will now, all buy Blue and White scarves to be a part of it, it's the beginning of re-establishing an identity that has been previously lost

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

That was a march against the Glaziers, yours wasnt a march against tan. We had 2500 march in league 2 with a 4200 attendance against Petty.

but anyway - you are misunderstanding what I am saying. It is not a numbers competition.

Let me explain again....

1) Your march was not anti Tan. Which is odd considering he has stated there will be no blue under his control. Due to this I was led to believe that the intention was to prove him wrong in that 10% or what ever he said was not supporting his rebrand.

2) in order for the march to be a success the brief of point 1 would have had to be achieved catagorically. 4000 is the upper guesstimates of the march and it has been laughed off by many, but even going woth that - that is 15% of the match going fans who would ACTIVELY show opposition to the rebrand.

3) that confirms to Tan that 85% may not like the rebrand but are happy enough to stand by and watch it happen unopposed as long as he keeps writing the loans.

It really is that simple.

Well done for all those that attended, a shame not more did as they let you down.

Everyone knows your not going to get 85%. As you are being pedantic let's look at tans statement. He implied that 10 % where against him also implying that 90 % were for him. Well for a start it was more than 10% marching and but that was just part of the protest. The 1927 point pushed the against right up to the 80s.

Its not pedantic in the slightest. Even if you got 50% it would show that a large proportion of the fan base will actively oppose the rebrand. 10-15% is a nothingness really, didnt he say "we dont care about the 10% as long as the majority are fine" or something along those lines?

The scarf thing may have looked pretty but a protest it is not. As I said, what ever changed in the world from holding up a scarf? When it matters only 15% max will actively stand uo for the club and Tan is loving that confirmation im sure.

He couldnt care less if you support him or not, as long as his ideas are implemented smoothly and without opposition. 85% confirmed this would be the case.

Making a "Red" teams home stadium "Blue" seems like a protest to me.

Its always been the case barring the odd event like scarfgate.

Your club has 100 years of blue. Anyone that hasnt bought merchandise in 2 years will only have blue. Its hardly a protest to wear the away colours or indeed to continue as normal, it happens in every club up and down the country. I have the purple and yellow away top for us too.

I think that Saturday, was the first step in the supporters regaining their dignity and unity once more. For as long as Ive been going (over 40 years) I don't think I have seen so many supporters with Blue and White scarves on and wanting to wave them. It wont really matter soon, if we still play in Red with the dragon badge, as the supporters that matter, those that actually go along and watch City home and away will have decided that they will remain Blue and any supporters who so far have accepted and worn the Red will just stop wearing it and join the rest. I can see very soon that the whole support will all be in Blue I should add that I never bought club merchandise, was never into wearing it or waving a scarf, but I bought one at the start of the season and 70s shirt. Annis is a prime example as well, he wouldn't have been seen dead in a football shirt back in the day, many, many are like this, so for us it isnt normal at all to be waving scarves or wearing club colours.

A lot of truth in what u say, until Huddersfield home the first home league game our team wore Red, I had never worn a BLUE City shirt at a match(on hols every day) and from and including that night, I have worn something BLUE at every City game Ive attended, it means that much to me.
Many other City have done the same

It's a funny thing, Annis and quite ironic, but now that the 19.27 scarf waving has been put in place, many, if not all will want to be part of it, so will now, all buy Blue and White scarves to be a part of it, it's the beginning of re-establishing an identity that has been previously lost

Your right, Ive noticed a lot of youngsters as well now think its the new trend to wear a BLUE scarf

Your right, Ive noticed a lot of youngsters as well now think its the new trend to wear a BLUE scarf

But not blue gloves

The fact that the fans still wear red clearly bothers Tan. Otherwise he wouldn't have had red scarf night... Nor would he have told fans to wear red at the supporters dinner.

It's obvious that wearing blue at a Cardiff game these days is totally different to fans wearing away colours at other clubs.

Why would it bother Tan that fans still wear red

Your right, Ive noticed a lot of youngsters as well now think its the new trend to wear a BLUE scarf

But not blue gloves

Thats my personal style

People can get het up and angry all they like. But after all that online venting.... Even if we take the top estimate of 4000 (which has been met with sever scrutiny) that is still only 15% and wont have Tan worried a bit.

He couldnt give a damn if you are unhappy or if you are happy as long as you ensure any changes happen smoothly - 85% proved they will... Unless he has a fear of scarves that is.

Now bury your head in the sand and call me names as much as you want but its getting a bit like ground hog day with my "told you so" post bumps.

Man Utd have on average 70,000. The best they could muster for their marches against the glaziers was 7,000. That's 10% and that was considered a success.

If it was good enough for them then Saturday was good enough for us.

Have the Glazers left Man Utd? Sold Up? Changed their path entirely?

Nope...

The fact that the fans still wear red clearly bothers Tan. Otherwise he wouldn't have had red scarf night... Nor would he have told fans to wear red at the supporters dinner.

It's obvious that wearing blue at a Cardiff game these days is totally different to fans wearing away colours at other clubs.

Why would it bother Tan that fans still wear red

I meant blue... I guess you know that really.

BBC say an estimated 3000.

The scarves looked great but look like more people have them than in reality do though I am sure it will catch on the next few weeks.

The fact that the fans still wear red clearly bothers Tan. Otherwise he wouldn't have had red scarf night... Nor would he have told fans to wear red at the supporters dinner.

It's obvious that wearing blue at a Cardiff game these days is totally different to fans wearing away colours at other clubs.

Why would it bother Tan that fans still wear red

I meant blue... I guess you know that really.

Of course I did