It looks like honest opinions seem to upset a few on here

hahahaha

Thats a bit rich coming from you Annis

Anyone who doesnt share your opinion on Malky and gives it to you straight with facts you get all mardy and upset.

It was only yesterday you had a pop at Bowman because he felt Malky was to blame in the poll and you called him a red Tan lover

And Polo has about 5 different names

4 actually and they all blame Malky

You can delete the other 3 mate i dont know the passwords

And u never get banned, but u disagree with everything I say incl DJ

ive had 2 names banned actually but in fairness they were both for intimidating barry chuckles

I am one of those who feel you are being unfair against OGS and i have stated it in a few topics earlier.

The thing is mate, you have such an incredible amount of knowledge when it comes to football so i feel you are completely wrong when you give him 12 (11) matches before you put a stamp on him and says he aint good enough.

First of all id like to remind you that he came into our club at the worst time possible. He had just come in when the window opened and he had no chance to get to know the players and evaluate our squad before he needed to start strengthening.

Tony Pulis had a few months too see his players in action and find out exactly what was needed to play his type of football. Steve Bruce has been in the club for a long time and even tho Fulham fired Rene he got a MASSIVE budget to spend.

I dont like your post`s about the january window and how he bought 7 players so he should win matches.
You talk like City was the only club allowed to buy players in this window but the fact is that OGS had the lowest budget in the bottom of PL besides West Brom.

Just look at what the other clubs got to buy players with:

Hull: Long, Jelavic
Fulham: Holtby, Dempsey, Mitroglou, Heitinga
Palace: Hennesey, Dann, Ledley, Ince, Puncheon

Those clubs used over twice as much as us and it shows on the type of players they could attract. Hull paid more for each of the strikers than we had to use on all players.

We only won 4 out of 20 matches before OGS came. He needed atleast 6 out of 18 but we all know that it became even harder after the january window because the ones coming best out of it was our rivals in the bottom.

IF OGS had been give 15mill, had a few months to prepare for the job and watched more matches then i would felt a little dissapointed about what he has achieved so far.
But i know that with so little time to prepare, so litte money to spend and possibly the weakest squad in the PL (combined with injuries and bans) he have had a hard time even getting a good team together.

A man with your passion for football and that much knowledge should give the man more time than 11 matches Annis. You probably wont say it officially but deep inside i believe that you feel the same way i do and know that our team aint got the quality to make it in this years PL unless we have luck on our side in the matches that usually end up with a draw.

But know this Annis, even tho i am critical towards some of your opinions it doesn`t mean i dont respect them and dont respect you. That i do and your love for the club is possibly the main factor behind me feeling dissapointed that you dont "support" OGS like you support the players.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136878

I backed Dave Jones for his first 2 years, as the months passed after that I became totally against Jones, by the last 2 years, I could not stand him, but I still fully supported the team.

I backed Malky from day one and still back him today.

I backed Ole from day one and will still support him next season what ever happens this season, but I am entitled to my opinion and beliefs, I feel he is not experienced enough in management in English football and relegation battles. I still think he has a lot to learn and his inexperience is starting to show.

So because I have my own opinion and speaks how I honestly feel and don't praise Ole, I can see by the number of posts/topics that are being posted I am suddenly a hypocrite and there's suppose to be now double standards

Lets be honest, how can I praise Ole? what has he done so far for me to be positive ? West Ham defeat at home when they were at their lowest, Swansea our rivals, our worst defeat in living memory, a total embarrassment, Hull City a mediocre team at home, one of the worst home defeats in the last 12 years and he has only been here 2 months.

I want Ole to succeed and yes he has managed us for only 11 games and brought in 7 players,but please if I am so wrong, can the ones with different opinions, show me the positives so far ?

Not expecting you to praise Ole but most feel your views on Malky are somewhat blinkered by your hatred of Tan and are therefore pushing too much blame on Ole. I blame Malky entirely for mucking this season up for us through his poor signings and in particular his failure to address the obvious i.e. to get in some bloody goalscorers

Has Ole brought a goal scorer in or solved the problem, in the last 11 games ? Ole had the whole of the January transfer to bring one in, are u happy with his 7 signings ?

Annis that's a classic buck pass mate
Mackay had four windows to buy a striker blaming it on ole now is a buck passer no chance in hell was he going to get a good striker in January which has been out biggest problem all season and last season that is one mans fault malky Mackay as for the jones stuff I'm not bothered what I will say on jones is he's the best manager. We've had here for years might have been a but of a c**t but we played football under him and he done well on a shit budget
Time will tell on rest of oles signings
And as for malky seemed like a nice guy and fans favourite but that only lasts so long when the football served up was as bad as it was would we have stayed up under him maybe but it's all ifs and buts
He's gone now so my support goes to OGS hopefully he can offload next season implement his style fully and bring us straight back up, he'll have all summer to restructure and then it will be his team to comment on and then we can judge fully

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136878

I backed Dave Jones for his first 2 years, as the months passed after that I became totally against Jones, by the last 2 years, I could not stand him, but I still fully supported the team.

I backed Malky from day one and still back him today.

I backed Ole from day one and will still support him next season what ever happens this season, but I am entitled to my opinion and beliefs, I feel he is not experienced enough in management in English football and relegation battles. I still think he has a lot to learn and his inexperience is starting to show.

So because I have my own opinion and speaks how I honestly feel and don't praise Ole, I can see by the number of posts/topics that are being posted I am suddenly a hypocrite and there's suppose to be now double standards

Lets be honest, how can I praise Ole? what has he done so far for me to be positive ? West Ham defeat at home when they were at their lowest, Swansea our rivals, our worst defeat in living memory, a total embarrassment, Hull City a mediocre team at home, one of the worst home defeats in the last 12 years and he has only been here 2 months.

I want Ole to succeed and yes he has managed us for only 11 games and brought in 7 players,but please if I am so wrong, can the ones with different opinions, show me the positives so far ?

So,its OK for you to have an opinion but you ban others for having one?

The only posters that are ever banned from this forum are snipers/ name callers etc, were u one of them? What was yr previous name ? It's funny if u look on the form everyone is having a good debate and not agreeing with me, but u have a little snipe, not a debate

Sorry butty you threw your toys out and banned me and didn't even have the courtesy to say why.The all opinions welcome motto should be changed to "all opinions welcome as long as you don't disagree with me.Still,if I get banned again I can always do a Roathy.

To be fair i have never been banned from this forum and my opinions are rarely the same as Annis's or Carls. I often bring up hammam in arguments which probably annoys him and i try to wind him and Carl up now and again but like i say i have never been banned for having a difference of opinion .

Spot on Jinks, u even asked to be banned and I refused

90% of our posts are of different opinions and u have always posted against Sam, but all in a proper debate

Ah i remember i did get a 24 hour ban once

I was banned once for posting in the same thread as Roathie

I've been banned a few times for speaking my mind rightly or wrong but I will continue to speak as I feel just like annis does

Taking the piss down vind again are we? Well opening the post on opinion and hypocracy, and many of post adressing this in
Quite direct manner. Not many as angry as mine, but still to the point.. Goes to show once again.. Taking the piss downvind!

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary. In each and every game we have been for more positive, and have had a go at the teams. West Ham game - could have won. Swansea game until they scored, we were well in the game. Hull - we had 23 shots on goal. Away games against Man U, Man C, Spurs gave a good account of ourselves. Beat Norwich and a good point against an inform Villa side. Scoring goals is the big issue, as we all know. Malky's fault without a doubt. His record on buying strikers is atrocious, and a well documented one. One transfer window, and a January one for that matter is unfortunately for OGS, a very difficult time to buy any sort of quality striker. Ole will be great for this club, regardless of which league we are in. I actually commend him for part planning for the potential of relegation. A plan B so to speak. Not had many of those over the years.

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Come on annis, as a malky fan you should known the January window is near impossible. Malky has had 2 years of funds to find a left back, right back and a striker who can score and 60m later we are awful.

For cost I'd take ole signings over cornelius.

2 years to find a left back, right back and a striker?. Um, no, he had a few months in the summer. Fraizer is still one of our best players aswell.

Andrew Taylor, Mcnaughton, Campbell were class in the Championship and no signings were required.

People need to have a look at what club they support, your expectations are ridiculously high, regardless of money spent.

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I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Dont think it was sarcasm.. I think it was a challenge to sit down and watch some games on video, reading some in depth stats
And return with an edjucated opinion.. Saying the stats show we are getting worse by loosing is like stating ole took a step back joining Cardiff, since molde is higher on the rankings..

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Shouldn't you be at home, with your head in those medical books?

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

Craig, remove the blinkers we're going down with Ole at the helm.

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

Craig, remove the blinkers we're going down with Ole at the helm.

Good Job u.werent around in world war two lol where is the fighting sprit

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

Craig, remove the blinkers we're going down with Ole at the helm.

Relegation doesnt concern me, but that is not the question. You claim OGS is a failure, i think thats very unfair due to the fact he had to completely change the style of play, using the majority of another mans squad and he has only been here since january.

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Dont think it was sarcasm.. I think it was a challenge to sit down and watch some games on video, reading some in depth stats
And return with an edjucated opinion.. Saying the stats show we are getting worse by loosing is like stating ole took a step back joining Cardiff, since molde is higher on the rankings..

Which abject performance would you like me to review? :lol

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Dont think it was sarcasm.. I think it was a challenge to sit down and watch some games on video, reading some in depth stats
And return with an edjucated opinion.. Saying the stats show we are getting worse by loosing is like stating ole took a step back joining Cardiff, since molde is higher on the rankings..

Which abject performance would you like me to review? :lol

Depend. You want the full picture? Pick any 7 games before ole and the ones after. But for show you can just watch the hull game..i even help you on the research on ole if you want, but right now im following this http://iditarod.com.
Stats enough for me for some time..

No way anyone could judge OGS as a failure yet, crazy stuff.

I think people need to let go of the anger of the way Malky was treated and the way some fans were disloyal to him and get behind our new man.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136878

I backed Dave Jones for his first 2 years, as the months passed after that I became totally against Jones, by the last 2 years, I could not stand him, but I still fully supported the team.

I backed Malky from day one and still back him today.

I backed Ole from day one and will still support him next season what ever happens this season, but I am entitled to my opinion and beliefs, I feel he is not experienced enough in management in English football and relegation battles. I still think he has a lot to learn and his inexperience is starting to show.

So because I have my own opinion and speaks how I honestly feel and don't praise Ole, I can see by the number of posts/topics that are being posted I am suddenly a hypocrite and there's suppose to be now double standards

Lets be honest, how can I praise Ole? what has he done so far for me to be positive ? West Ham defeat at home when they were at their lowest, Swansea our rivals, our worst defeat in living memory, a total embarrassment, Hull City a mediocre team at home, one of the worst home defeats in the last 12 years and he has only been here 2 months.

I want Ole to succeed and yes he has managed us for only 11 games and brought in 7 players,but please if I am so wrong, can the ones with different opinions, show me the positives so far ?

Of course honest opinions are valuable, but can only be considered seriously when based on personal experience. Now although I've done my fair share of coaching and managing at a junior level in my time but I wouldn't dare say that any league manager is inexperienced because he has a lot more experience that me or he wouldn't be in the job.
On the other hand, I feel that I can offer an opinion on the standard and type of football we play and I feel it is now far more entertaining than it was under Malky. But as you state that is just an opinion.
Let's be honest we're in this mess because the squad that Malky put together at the beginning of the season isn't good enough for the Premier League. He basically threw away millions of pounds. Chlesea or ManUtd might be able to loose millions on players but we can't. I would like you to consider that this is the big problem of inexperience not Ole but Malky. The business that Ole did in January bringing in the players he did for £6m was good in my book (opinion).
I think back to so many games before Christmas when it was back to the wall, now did we really enjoy that? I didn't. I'd rather go down fighting than not to have fought at all.
Only time will tell if we can say up, but we are giving it a go now, the football's better and hopefully we can do it.

I said at the start of this post that I've done some coaching in my time. It doesn't matter at what level you play it's all about confidence. If we can get a result or two, and the signs are good, who knows. Confidence is the key BUT if the payers and management some of the @@##$ written on here then their confidence would have been lost in seconds.

If we love Cardiff City let's get behind the boys and support then in unity, forget about the red/blue row for now, cancell any protest it will only cause unrest and the media will love it! (we'd only be only doing what Tan does!).
Let's play the 12th man and show the believe in Ole and his team that will give them the confidence to win this dogfight.

No way anyone could judge OGS as a failure yet, crazy stuff.

I think people need to let go of the anger of the way Malky was treated and the way some fans were disloyal to him and get behind our new man.

Agree! And the malky this and malky that. He did the club well! But move on

No way anyone could judge OGS as a failure yet, crazy stuff.

I think people need to let go of the anger of the way Malky was treated and the way some fans were disloyal to him and get behind our new man.

Agree! And the malky this and malky that. He did the club well! But move on

Don't get me wrong, I was a huge fan of Malky and argued a few times with Craig & Polo about him. But no arguments now, I totally agree with them that the new man deserves a fair chance and this is nowhere near a fair chance.

At the end of the day, even if is 100% fact that we would be better off now with Malky in charge, the only 100% fact is that he is not in charge and Ole is. All this discussion is pointless, Ole is the manager and actually needs our support as we need a truly great escape to stay up. I can see the positive things Ole is doing slowly coming to fruition in our style, maybe we are closer than thought to a great result.

Annis' problem is not that he has an opinion as that is allowed, but that he is a figure of influence whose opinion is respected and followed by a section of the support. Him not being behind Ole causes more to not be behind him as well and it's the last thing CCFC needs.

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Dont think it was sarcasm.. I think it was a challenge to sit down and watch some games on video, reading some in depth stats
And return with an edjucated opinion.. Saying the stats show we are getting worse by loosing is like stating ole took a step back joining Cardiff, since molde is higher on the rankings..

Which abject performance would you like me to review? :lol

Depend. You want the full picture? Pick any 7 games before ole and the ones after. But for show you can just watch the hull game..i even help you on the research on ole if you want, but right now im following this http://iditarod.com.
Stats enough for me for some time..

Huh? I thought we were garbage against Hull, a total embarrassment. Malky's worst defeat in my opinion was the Southampton match. However, I rate Southampton very highly. Top 8 Premiership finish is on the cards for them with a good run till the end of season.

No way anyone could judge OGS as a failure yet, crazy stuff.

I think people need to let go of the anger of the way Malky was treated and the way some fans were disloyal to him and get behind our new man.

Agree! And the malky this and malky that. He did the club well! But move on

Don't get me wrong, I was a huge fan of Malky and argued a few times with Craig & Polo about him. But no arguments now, I totally agree with them that the new man deserves a fair chance and this is nowhere near a fair chance.

At the end of the day, even if is 100% fact that we would be better off now with Malky in charge, the only 100% fact is that he is not in charge and Ole is. All this discussion is pointless, Ole is the manager and actually needs our support as we need a truly great escape to stay up. I can see the positive things Ole is doing slowly coming to fruition in our style, maybe we are closer than thought to a great result.

Annis' problem is not that he has an opinion as that is allowed, but that he is a figure of influence whose opinion is respected and followed by a section of the support. Him not being behind Ole causes more to not be behind him as well and it's the last thing CCFC needs.

Spot on again! I wish he could see that, and that is why im riding his back

I can't believe people are unable to see the progress the team has made in OGS first 11 games. Albeit without garnering the points necessary.

Cheers dude I'm havin a great day out n about, you're sarcasm made me chuckle

Dont think it was sarcasm.. I think it was a challenge to sit down and watch some games on video, reading some in depth stats
And return with an edjucated opinion.. Saying the stats show we are getting worse by loosing is like stating ole took a step back joining Cardiff, since molde is higher on the rankings..

Which abject performance would you like me to review? :lol

Depend. You want the full picture? Pick any 7 games before ole and the ones after. But for show you can just watch the hull game..i even help you on the research on ole if you want, but right now im following this http://iditarod.com.
Stats enough for me for some time..

Huh? I thought we were garbage against Hull, a total embarrassment. Malky's worst defeat in my opinion was the Southampton match. However, I rate Southampton very highly. Top 8 Premiership finish is on the cards for them with a good run till the end of season.

Sorry! We where not until idiot mistakes made it all fall apart. Actually some top notch football in that game! Agree on southampton. On good days they can beat anyone

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

Craig, remove the blinkers we're going down with Ole at the helm.

Relegation doesnt concern me, but that is not the question. You claim OGS is a failure, i think thats very unfair due to the fact he had to completely change the style of play, using the majority of another mans squad and he has only been here since january.

Ole did not have to completely change style of play, very few experienced managers would have done that. wake up and smell the Tantastic bullshit.

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

Craig, remove the blinkers we're going down with Ole at the helm.

Relegation doesnt concern me, but that is not the question. You claim OGS is a failure, i think thats very unfair due to the fact he had to completely change the style of play, using the majority of another mans squad and he has only been here since january.

Ole did not have to completely change style of play, very few experienced managers would have done that. wake up and smell the Tantastic bullshit.

What has Tan got to do with it. Just because im supporting Ole means im a Tan man??

Fans like you are the ones who tear this fanbase in 2

I agree with Annis, if you look at my post history I predicted the Ole failiure to a T. If i could see it, why couldn't the CCFC experts employed at Tans club?

So you are totally writing off OGS as a failure after 11 games?

Craig, remove the blinkers we're going down with Ole at the helm.

Relegation doesnt concern me, but that is not the question. You claim OGS is a failure, i think thats very unfair due to the fact he had to completely change the style of play, using the majority of another mans squad and he has only been here since january.

Ole did not have to completely change style of play, very few experienced managers would have done that. wake up and smell the Tantastic bullshit.

You are a silly billy.Pulis changed Palace big time.Tan's only mistake is that he should have acted sooner.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136878

I backed Dave Jones for his first 2 years, as the months passed after that I became totally against Jones, by the last 2 years, I could not stand him, but I still fully supported the team.

I backed Malky from day one and still back him today.

I backed Ole from day one and will still support him next season what ever happens this season, but I am entitled to my opinion and beliefs, I feel he is not experienced enough in management in English football and relegation battles. I still think he has a lot to learn and his inexperience is starting to show.

So because I have my own opinion and speaks how I honestly feel and don't praise Ole, I can see by the number of posts/topics that are being posted I am suddenly a hypocrite and there's suppose to be now double standards

Lets be honest, how can I praise Ole? what has he done so far for me to be positive ? West Ham defeat at home when they were at their lowest, Swansea our rivals, our worst defeat in living memory, a total embarrassment, Hull City a mediocre team at home, one of the worst home defeats in the last 12 years and he has only been here 2 months.

I want Ole to succeed and yes he has managed us for only 11 games and brought in 7 players,but please if I am so wrong, can the ones with different opinions, show me the positives so far ?

So,its OK for you to have an opinion but you ban others for having one?

The only posters that are ever banned from this forum are snipers/ name callers etc, were u one of them? What was yr previous name ? It's funny if u look on the form everyone is having a good debate and not agreeing with me, but u have a little snipe, not a debate

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Not only a debate, just nailed your hypocrisy to the wall. The way i see it, the only difference between you and tan is the colour of your shirt.. But thats only my honest opinion...

Well thats your opinion and your still debating and giving your opinion, so I cant be a Dictator