Sorry but I just don't get it?

Cardiff FC - drop the City - thats fine by me as its still Cardiff in it and no stupid nickname or corporation like Red Bull

I like how Chuckles forgot to highlight this part in bold. Again, more selective highlighting by the aforementioned Barry Chuckles. Its okay though because the moderators are well aware of your ways Chuckles, or should I call you Mr Clarke? I don't know which way to go with you so I'll call you both from now on just so you don't get all emotional and report me.

Im pretty sure he even also said he would walk away if Tan touched the name. Although it escapes me under which of his usernames this stance was made under - they all seemed to have differing views on the subject

Barnett is probably a lovely boy but surely people have learned to take anything he says with a pinch of salt as it will likely be the opposite a week later

Castro, Chuckles only likes to highlight what suits him. He's as much of a control freak as Tan and he loves rushing around the forum trying to belittle and talk down to people in the same way I suspect Tan does in his offices. They both love to be in control claiming to be correct all the time. They fail to understand opinion and they fail to understand the changing of opinions. Im not bothered really but one thing I am sure of is that Chuckles is more damaging to this forum than yourself and feel free to quote me on that, include it in your signature. There's plenty who agree with me. You often twist arguments to win debates and I've been guilty of the same thing but Chuckles likes to purposely quote only what suits him.

Barnett claiming how wonderful Hull's rebrand will be for them, yet under his moniker of JBCCFC1927, he was claiming how terrible it was & even formed a protest group about it.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 0#p1240747

I've spoke to Annis today and have told him after seeing Hull City Tigers there in front of me reality sank in and there it was, a nickname right in the name, and I think that is wrong and I can only fear the same happening to us after Tan praising their owner.

If you're on Twitter then drop a message by @theninianstand and we can get you involved if you seriously are interested and we'll slowly work our way up properly and establish ourselves properly in a manner which can be respected not only by the club but the media as well.

I'll be setting up the forum tomorrow most likely and getting more things moving.

....and Chuckles you fail to realise that people change their opinions based on what they learn. You seem to think people must believe one thing for all of their lives which is ridiculous but expected coming from the likes of yourself. You hate change and you hate people changing their mind. You just like things to stay how you like them because you're a control freak. You're as bad as Tan imo and you'd be no different in his position.

My objection is firmly against Dragons being in the name or a corporate sponsor.

Bluebirds is neither and its not stupid as a nickname either thus my willingness to accept it. The problem I have is Tan will change us to Dragons and not Bluebirds. Dragons is stupid as its not us. Bluebirds is not stupid because it is who we are.

Chuckles fails to understand that though but its okay as I'll see him at a game soon enough as I know where he sits and I can explain it to him in person like a civilised person. Thats not a threat by the way Barry before you start getting all emotional, its just a honest statement that I will talk to you like a civilised adult and make it clear how I feel about the entire situation. Maybe then when you haven't got a keyboard in front of you giving you a platform to belittle people from you'll come to understand the points made.

All for opinions evolving & changing, however, you do it every week. One minute you hate the rebrand, the next you love it, the next you tolerate it, the next you love it again. It's the same with every topic.

Malky, Gestede, rebrand, Whittingham, Tan. I'm all for opinions evolving, but you just seem to go back and forth on opinions from one day to the next.

Fact is that you are dismissing anyone who is against the hull rebrand, failing to realise that you were against it yourself under a previous moniker.

I've spoke to Annis today and have told him after seeing Hull City Tigers there in front of me reality sank in and there it was, a nickname right in the name, and I think that is wrong and I can only fear the same happening to us after Tan praising their owner.

All for opinions evolving & changing, however, you do it every week. One minute you hate the rebrand, the next you love it, the next you tolerate it, the next you love it again. It's the same with every topic.

Malky, Gestede, rebrand, Whittingham, Tan. I'm all for opinions evolving, but you just seem to go back and forth on opinions from one day to the next.

Fact is that you are dismissing anyone who is against the hull rebrand, failing to realise that you were against it yourself under a previous moniker.

Opinions change. Deal with it. Most of my opinion has changed on the back of what I've learned at university as like i've said already, I've done a module on this sort of thing. I can now see why it is a good marketing strategy although I won't expect a dinosaur like yourself to understand.

Barnett, I just cant buy that.

You are the perenial devils advocate. You are not a stupid lad, far from it. You have the ability to make an argument for both sides of every argument - and thus do it regularly. In that sense you are a valuable poster as it creates debate. However YOUR opinion isnt actually worth that much as a result as it will change depending on which directionyou would like to take the thread.

You have called me a great poster to a poster who is wrecking the forum and this seems a trend that goes back and fore with my posting style and opinions never wavering. Aside from me ive noted you do this with many people and a complete spectrum of subjects. As I said, it creates debate as you give valid points for both sides but as a result nobody can take you seriously.

Sock it to em Barney

All for opinions evolving & changing, however, you do it every week. One minute you hate the rebrand, the next you love it, the next you tolerate it, the next you love it again. It's the same with every topic.

Malky, Gestede, rebrand, Whittingham, Tan. I'm all for opinions evolving, but you just seem to go back and forth on opinions from one day to the next.

Fact is that you are dismissing anyone who is against the hull rebrand, failing to realise that you were against it yourself under a previous moniker.

Opinions change. Deal with it. Most of my opinion has changed on the back of what I've learned at university as like i've said already, I've done a module on this sort of thing. I can now see why it is a good marketing strategy although I won't expect a dinosaur like yourself to understand.

UNI IS A GOOD THING..........but you do need to factor in that your lecturers are not successful business men, if they were they would not be lecturing........as Castro says, you form good arguments from either side..but most success stories are on the back of a belief and drive to succeed .........finding a way for what you want to happen, not constantly looking for negatives and opposite views.........

Barnett, I just cant buy that.

You are the perenial devils advocate. You are not a stupid lad, far from it. You have the ability to make an argument for both sides of every argument - and thus do it regularly. In that sense you are a valuable poster as it creates debate. However YOUR opinion isnt actually worth that much as a result as it will change depending on which directionyou would like to take the thread.

Yes, and thats the way I will always be. I have, through a solid education, been provided with a mindset that allows me to, from putting myself in the shoes of others, see arguments and views from the viewpoint of others. I can think logically and I am very good at thinking logically and this allows me to think and see things from many perspectives rather than just being narrow minded and following the line of 'Tan rebranded us so he must be evil. He's always evil etc.'. That viewpoint or a viewpoint similar to that has been spouted on this forum numerous times and its narrow minded and illogical.

A rational and logical thinker would understand he has done some good things, done some bad things, done some questionable things but then in the interest of balance and fairness he has admitted he's learning and so on. All of these are variables and factors just in Tan's case, nevermind any other subjects. People like to think the world is black and white yet they're forgetting the greyscale in between. There's many variables to factor in as you know yourself.

You have called me a great poster to a poster who is wrecking the forum and this seems a trend that goes back and fore with my posting style and opinions never wavering. Aside from me ive noted you do this with many people and a complete spectrum of subjects. As I said, it creates debate as you give valid points for both sides but as a result nobody can take you seriously.

Because you change yourself Roathie. Sometimes you purposely twist arguments and sometimes you are a great poster which I am willing to admit. Thats just the way it is plus you, like myself in the past, have had numerous accounts, and like myself, you have had a different method of delivery on each. I'd still prefer you here to Chuckles though because you actually possess the capability to have a decent and rational debate rather than throw out loads of smileys and quote what suits your agenda like a 4 year old who's just discovered the internet.

The thing is Roathie, contrary to popular belief, I've never claimed or wanted to seek validation from other forum users online. I get called an attention seeker and all sorts but I'm a resilient individual and its water off a ducks back for me. I just like having a bit of a laugh, a bit of debate and seeing things from multiple perspectives encourages intellectual debate. If a coin has 1 side then the outcome is predictable and boring. The same occurs with debate.

People hate me because I'm unpredictable and I don't cater to their ways and demands. I never will and I'll always be my own person who has gained a good education and will use logical reasoning to come to a structured viewpoint. Sometimes answers raise more questions than the actual question put forward in the first instance which further enriches the debate. I am open to criticism from people who put it across constructively like a mature adult and I am willing to listen to people who's opinion I value and that is on the basis of what I see and learn about that person.

People always on this forum take what I say as if its my own reinforced opinion when they couldn't be more wrong. A forum is all about debate for me and I think thats fine and I am willing even to accept your Swansea biased viewpoints because its an outsiders perspective and in the interest of good debate I think its a positive. An outsiders perspective is a good thing which is why we should encourage the Norwegian posters to post more.

Im also not the type of person who believes everything that Carl says is true or gospel but I am the type of person who is capable of understanding that what he and Annis put out is information they've received and that they just want to pass on info. They're not always going to be spot on. They're humans like any other yet you have people on this forum ready to go at them because they do not possess the ability to read between the lines, decipher the true message from what has actually been said and on the basis of the information provided take what they believe is worthy to them. These same people would cry if Annis and Carl didn't post updates as well which makes it all the more laughable.

Roathie, I would tell you to get lost but I'm not going to bother because I know you've had enough of that as it is. Honestly though, you say my opinion is worthless but you need to remember I or many others may feel the same way about your opinion. We're all just people posting on the forum and what we post is opinions and some of us post them to create debate and encourage different viewpoints from multiple angles. Others post them for their own reasons.

There's a few posters on here who talk a lot of sense and who's opinions i hold very highly. I will actively engage in debate with them for the sole reason that their response is something I regard as worthy and educating. I am a person who likes being educated and learning more about all things. Education is the greatest tool anyone can have. It prepares you for life and life is an education in itself. Some talk sense whilst others just like to belittle others because they take everything as gospel as if its written in stone. They get worked up about posts. They're like Tom trying to catch Jerry and when you take a month off the forum you see these same plonkers going after others with the same crap.

Have I played devils advocate in the past? Yes I have and I will admit it. Why? Because a forum where everyone agrees with each other isn't a forum at all. Its a religious movement with followers who all become sheep in the heard. I am not a sheep. I am my own person. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that.

The bullshit is almost tangible? The self proclaimed arrogance is unbelievable! How clever am I mentality, if they have to come on here to prove it, not that clever! A little desperate I presume!

Because they are Hull City not Hull Tigers. We are Cardiff City not Cardiff Dragons. I am Steve Thomas not Steve Nuclearble or Nukes. A nickname is just that a nickname. An affectionate way of referring to someone.
We are football teams and do not have fancy Rugby names. Our name is our history not to be messed with by eccentric billionaires.
These pathetic owners are just custodians of our Clubs so they should respect that, they should respect its customs and history as they will not always be there, not like us the supporters. And not behave like they own the world and do what the fook they like.

Hull City forever
Cardiff City forever
Eccentric billionaires fook off

Why the Cardiff Dragons bit? You never have been known as the dragons so theres no comparison to make with Hull Tigers! If you feel that strongly Nukes why isn't your username Steve Thomas instead of Nuclearblue? Seriously, you talk about nicknames but would you really in the current climate prefer to be called Cardiff bluebirds and play in blue, or Cardiff City and play in Red? I know I didn't want to bring your rebrand into it, but you've forced my hand. This Hull name change is all a bit of a ballyhoo! As I said, I would love us too change too Swansea Jacks, it's much more of an identity than City, which of course, you are City as well, along with manchester, Bristol, Stoke, Birmingham etc! Big deal!

Because its relevant because the mad one wants to change it to Dragons not Bluebirds so wind your neck in JB

Barnett, I just cant buy that.

You are the perenial devils advocate. You are not a stupid lad, far from it. You have the ability to make an argument for both sides of every argument - and thus do it regularly. In that sense you are a valuable poster as it creates debate. However YOUR opinion isnt actually worth that much as a result as it will change depending on which directionyou would like to take the thread.

Yes, and thats the way I will always be. I have, through a solid education, been provided with a mindset that allows me to, from putting myself in the shoes of others, see arguments and views from the viewpoint of others. I can think logically and I am very good at thinking logically and this allows me to think and see things from many perspectives rather than just being narrow minded and following the line of 'Tan rebranded us so he must be evil. He's always evil etc.'. That viewpoint or a viewpoint similar to that has been spouted on this forum numerous times and its narrow minded and illogical.

A rational and logical thinker would understand he has done some good things, done some bad things, done some questionable things but then in the interest of balance and fairness he has admitted he's learning and so on. All of these are variables and factors just in Tan's case, nevermind any other subjects. People like to think the world is black and white yet they're forgetting the greyscale in between. There's many variables to factor in as you know yourself.

You have called me a great poster to a poster who is wrecking the forum and this seems a trend that goes back and fore with my posting style and opinions never wavering. Aside from me ive noted you do this with many people and a complete spectrum of subjects. As I said, it creates debate as you give valid points for both sides but as a result nobody can take you seriously.

Because you change yourself Roathie. Sometimes you purposely twist arguments and sometimes you are a great poster which I am willing to admit. Thats just the way it is plus you, like myself in the past, have had numerous accounts, and like myself, you have had a different method of delivery on each. I'd still prefer you here to Chuckles though because you actually possess the capability to have a decent and rational debate rather than throw out loads of smileys and quote what suits your agenda like a 4 year old who's just discovered the internet.

The thing is Roathie, contrary to popular belief, I've never claimed or wanted to seek validation from other forum users online. I get called an attention seeker and all sorts but I'm a resilient individual and its water off a ducks back for me. I just like having a bit of a laugh, a bit of debate and seeing things from multiple perspectives encourages intellectual debate. If a coin has 1 side then the outcome is predictable and boring. The same occurs with debate.

People hate me because I'm unpredictable and I don't cater to their ways and demands. I never will and I'll always be my own person who has gained a good education and will use logical reasoning to come to a structured viewpoint. Sometimes answers raise more questions than the actual question put forward in the first instance which further enriches the debate. I am open to criticism from people who put it across constructively like a mature adult and I am willing to listen to people who's opinion I value and that is on the basis of what I see and learn about that person.

People always on this forum take what I say as if its my own reinforced opinion when they couldn't be more wrong. A forum is all about debate for me and I think thats fine and I am willing even to accept your Swansea biased viewpoints because its an outsiders perspective and in the interest of good debate I think its a positive. An outsiders perspective is a good thing which is why we should encourage the Norwegian posters to post more.

Im also not the type of person who believes everything that Carl says is true or gospel but I am the type of person who is capable of understanding that what he and Annis put out is information they've received and that they just want to pass on info. They're not always going to be spot on. They're humans like any other yet you have people on this forum ready to go at them because they do not possess the ability to read between the lines, decipher the true message from what has actually been said and on the basis of the information provided take what they believe is worthy to them. These same people would cry if Annis and Carl didn't post updates as well which makes it all the more laughable.

Roathie, I would tell you to get lost but I'm not going to bother because I know you've had enough of that as it is. Honestly though, you say my opinion is worthless but you need to remember I or many others may feel the same way about your opinion. We're all just people posting on the forum and what we post is opinions and some of us post them to create debate and encourage different viewpoints from multiple angles. Others post them for their own reasons.

There's a few posters on here who talk a lot of sense and who's opinions i hold very highly. I will actively engage in debate with them for the sole reason that their response is something I regard as worthy and educating. I am a person who likes being educated and learning more about all things. Education is the greatest tool anyone can have. It prepares you for life and life is an education in itself. Some talk sense whilst others just like to belittle others because they take everything as gospel as if its written in stone. They get worked up about posts. They're like Tom trying to catch Jerry and when you take a month off the forum you see these same plonkers going after others with the same crap.

Have I played devils advocate in the past? Yes I have and I will admit it. Why? Because a forum where everyone agrees with each other isn't a forum at all. Its a religious movement with followers who all become sheep in the heard. I am not a sheep. I am my own person. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that.

I dont think you can compare yourself and I, vastly different animals and vastly different presence on this board.

You say all this as if University is some holy grail that not many people achieve. I don't know that many people that DONT go to uni these days, its not something special yet you bring it up whenever you are challenged or criticised. I went to uni as did all of my mates, and most of my mates are as thick as pig shit.

I say your opinion is worthless due to the fact you don't really have one. And when you do actually have one then nobody listens because they think you will just change it next week so have no conviction behind it. The basis of your opinions and my opinions are completely different. I say what I feel and think through my experiences and knowledge, where as you say what you decide on that second.

My opinion can never be worthless and everyone knows that really, and hence im more often than not proved spot on with it and always stick to my guns as its my beliefs.

Its a bit like saying Oasis are a great band and then Oasis are a crap band the week later. Neither of these opinions are correct and neither are wrong because its subjective, however your opinion is worthless as you take a contradictory stance on the two extremes. In terms of debate, you are good however you cant expect people to listen or take you seriously as the chances are that it isnt even your opinion anyway - capiche?

Because they are Hull City not Hull Tigers. We are Cardiff City not Cardiff Dragons. I am Steve Thomas not Steve Nuclearble or Nukes. A nickname is just that a nickname. An affectionate way of referring to someone.
We are football teams and do not have fancy Rugby names. Our name is our history not to be messed with by eccentric billionaires.
These pathetic owners are just custodians of our Clubs so they should respect that, they should respect its customs and history as they will not always be there, not like us the supporters. And not behave like they own the world and do what the fook they like.

Hull City forever
Cardiff City forever
Eccentric billionaires fook off

Why the Cardiff Dragons bit? You never have been known as the dragons so theres no comparison to make with Hull Tigers! If you feel that strongly Nukes why isn't your username Steve Thomas instead of Nuclearblue? Seriously, you talk about nicknames but would you really in the current climate prefer to be called Cardiff bluebirds and play in blue, or Cardiff City and play in Red? I know I didn't want to bring your rebrand into it, but you've forced my hand. This Hull name change is all a bit of a ballyhoo! As I said, I would love us too change too Swansea Jacks, it's much more of an identity than City, which of course, you are City as well, along with manchester, Bristol, Stoke, Birmingham etc! Big deal!

Because its relevant because the mad one wants to change it to Dragons not Bluebirds so wind your neck in JB

'Wind your neck in' JB! I didn't have you down as a sensitive soul Nukes? Sorry, I meant Steven Thomas! Nothing of what you say is relevant because you obviously cannot see past Cardiff City! The thread was about Hull City/Tigers! I was using you and ourselves as a comparison! Obviously you cannot see that so move along.

Because they are Hull City not Hull Tigers. We are Cardiff City not Cardiff Dragons. I am Steve Thomas not Steve Nuclearble or Nukes. A nickname is just that a nickname. An affectionate way of referring to someone.
We are football teams and do not have fancy Rugby names. Our name is our history not to be messed with by eccentric billionaires.
These pathetic owners are just custodians of our Clubs so they should respect that, they should respect its customs and history as they will not always be there, not like us the supporters. And not behave like they own the world and do what the fook they like.

Hull City forever
Cardiff City forever
Eccentric billionaires fook off

Why the Cardiff Dragons bit? You never have been known as the dragons so theres no comparison to make with Hull Tigers! If you feel that strongly Nukes why isn't your username Steve Thomas instead of Nuclearblue? Seriously, you talk about nicknames but would you really in the current climate prefer to be called Cardiff bluebirds and play in blue, or Cardiff City and play in Red? I know I didn't want to bring your rebrand into it, but you've forced my hand. This Hull name change is all a bit of a ballyhoo! As I said, I would love us too change too Swansea Jacks, it's much more of an identity than City, which of course, you are City as well, along with manchester, Bristol, Stoke, Birmingham etc! Big deal!

Because its relevant because the mad one wants to change it to Dragons not Bluebirds so wind your neck in JB

'Wind your neck in' JB! I didn't have you down as a sensitive soul Nukes? Sorry, I meant Steven Thomas! Nothing of what you say is relevant because you obviously cannot see past Cardiff City! The thread was about Hull City/Tigers! I was using you and ourselves as a comparison! Obviously you cannot see that so move along.

Steve is correct. If Tan was to change the name we would be cardiff dragons. We've never been known as dragons and don't want too.

Because they are Hull City not Hull Tigers. We are Cardiff City not Cardiff Dragons. I am Steve Thomas not Steve Nuclearble or Nukes. A nickname is just that a nickname. An affectionate way of referring to someone.
We are football teams and do not have fancy Rugby names. Our name is our history not to be messed with by eccentric billionaires.
These pathetic owners are just custodians of our Clubs so they should respect that, they should respect its customs and history as they will not always be there, not like us the supporters. And not behave like they own the world and do what the fook they like.

Hull City forever
Cardiff City forever
Eccentric billionaires fook off

Why the Cardiff Dragons bit? You never have been known as the dragons so theres no comparison to make with Hull Tigers! If you feel that strongly Nukes why isn't your username Steve Thomas instead of Nuclearblue? Seriously, you talk about nicknames but would you really in the current climate prefer to be called Cardiff bluebirds and play in blue, or Cardiff City and play in Red? I know I didn't want to bring your rebrand into it, but you've forced my hand. This Hull name change is all a bit of a ballyhoo! As I said, I would love us too change too Swansea Jacks, it's much more of an identity than City, which of course, you are City as well, along with manchester, Bristol, Stoke, Birmingham etc! Big deal!

Because its relevant because the mad one wants to change it to Dragons not Bluebirds so wind your neck in JB

'Wind your neck in' JB! I didn't have you down as a sensitive soul Nukes? Sorry, I meant Steven Thomas! Nothing of what you say is relevant because you obviously cannot see past Cardiff City! The thread was about Hull City/Tigers! I was using you and ourselves as a comparison! Obviously you cannot see that so move along.

Steve is correct. If Tan was to change the name we would be cardiff dragons. We've never been known as dragons and don't want too.

Look Murphy, your not a stupid lad so stop trying your best to be one yeah! In Laymans terms for you, the thread is about Hull Citys fans being up in arms about being changed to Hull Tigers yes? I used the Cardiff bluebirds and Swansea Jacks as a hypothetical comparison. It had nothing to do with Tan and Cardiff Dragons, just asking if you would approve if You were changed to your club name plus nickname as Allam intends to do with Hull! Please say you understand, I'd be so proud of you!

No, we are cardiff city and want to stay that way. You may would be happy for your club to be renamed Swansea jacks, but would Liverpool FC like to become Liverpool scousers, or would Newcastle like to be Newcastle Geordies, would they f**k. We don't want be cardiff bluebirds or Cardiff dragons. Are you too stupid to understand that!

No, we are cardiff city and want to stay that way. You may would be happy for your club to be renamed Swansea jacks, but would Liverpool FC like to become Liverpool scousers, or would Newcastle like to be Newcastle Geordies, would they f**k. We don't want be cardiff bluebirds or Cardiff dragons. Are you too stupid to understand that!

Newcastle are the Magpies and Liverpool are the Reds.

No, we are cardiff city and want to stay that way. You may would be happy for your club to be renamed Swansea jacks, but would Liverpool FC like to become Liverpool scousers, or would Newcastle like to be Newcastle Geordies, would they f**k. We don't want be cardiff bluebirds or Cardiff dragons. Are you too stupid to understand that!

As I told you earlier in the thread Murphy, there is nothing rigid about a nickname being added. It would obviously be Newcastle Magpies or Liverpool reds, I used Swansea Jacks as Swansea Swans would be rather silly wouldn't it? But hey, never mind. rebrand paranoia has obviously set in with you!

Is anyone seriously suggesting that the Geordies would prefer to be known as the Newcastle Magpies or scouters would except the Liverpool Reds?

Is anyone seriously suggesting that the Geordies would prefer to be known as the Newcastle Magpies or scouters would except the Liverpool Reds?

No. But given the choice of Newcastle Magpies and Newcastle Geordies or Liverpool Scoucers or Liverpool Reds im pretty sure I know which one they would choose

Surely, the whole issue is they would not except either! So your argument is pointless!

No, we are cardiff city and want to stay that way. You may would be happy for your club to be renamed Swansea jacks, but would Liverpool FC like to become Liverpool scousers, or would Newcastle like to be Newcastle Geordies, would they f**k. We don't want be cardiff bluebirds or Cardiff dragons. Are you too stupid to understand that!

Newcastle are the Magpies and Liverpool are the Reds.

Swansea are the swans. 64 jack is saying Swansea jacks as if it is a nickname of the club and not the people of the city.

No, we are cardiff city and want to stay that way. You may would be happy for your club to be renamed Swansea jacks, but would Liverpool FC like to become Liverpool scousers, or would Newcastle like to be Newcastle Geordies, would they f**k. We don't want be cardiff bluebirds or Cardiff dragons. Are you too stupid to understand that!

As I told you earlier in the thread Murphy, there is nothing rigid about a nickname being added. It would obviously be Newcastle Magpies or Liverpool reds, I used Swansea Jacks as Swansea Swans would be rather silly wouldn't it? But hey, never mind. rebrand paranoia has obviously set in with you!

Jacks is nothing to do with Swansea city. Your nickname is the swans. If all clubs were to be rebranded to our nicknames that's what you would be called.

Surely, the whole issue is they would not except either! So your argument is pointless!

"Accept" not "except" and im not arguing anything.

Is anyone seriously suggesting that the Geordies would prefer to be known as the Newcastle Magpies or scouters would except the Liverpool Reds?

No. But given the choice of Newcastle Magpies and Newcastle Geordies or Liverpool Scoucers or Liverpool Reds im pretty sure I know which one they would choose

They wouldn't accept either. Both proud, passionate football cities.

You have no argument agreed!

You have no argument agreed!

Correct, i have no idea why you would have thought otherwise. I havent even read the thread let alone constructed an argument.

Well done! Another step forward on your self recognition programme! Accepting who you are is a big step!

Well done! Another step forward on your self recognition programme! Accepting who you are is a big step!

Oh no, this has all the hallmarks of Mental Martyn again

Accepting who I am is correcting you that I havent given an opinion on this thread?? ... That has all the crazy logic, nonsense theory and irrational text of a certain Martyn Ryan.

Tell me im wrong

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I dont think you can compare yourself and I, vastly different animals and vastly different presence on this board.

You say all this as if University is some holy grail that not many people achieve. I don't know that many people that DONT go to uni these days, its not something special yet you bring it up whenever you are challenged or criticised. I went to uni as did all of my mates, and most of my mates are as thick as pig shit.

I say your opinion is worthless due to the fact you don't really have one. And when you do actually have one then nobody listens because they think you will just change it next week so have no conviction behind it. The basis of your opinions and my opinions are completely different. I say what I feel and think through my experiences and knowledge, where as you say what you decide on that second.

My opinion can never be worthless and everyone knows that really, and hence im more often than not proved spot on with it and always stick to my guns as its my beliefs.

Its a bit like saying Oasis are a great band and then Oasis are a crap band the week later. Neither of these opinions are correct and neither are wrong because its subjective, however your opinion is worthless as you take a contradictory stance on the two extremes. In terms of debate, you are good however you cant expect people to listen or take you seriously as the chances are that it isnt even your opinion anyway - capiche?

I don't care Roathie but I like how you took the time to respond with such a long paragraph. If you didn't care, why bother? You take everything on the forum so seriously. You need to relax.

You think I value your opinion at all? You claim you don't value mine well good for you, its expected. I've never met you and you're not someone important or known so why would you value yours? Come on, get real Roathie. You and Chuckles run around the forum like headless chickens taking it all serious and when someone says something like Bony is crap or Gestede is world class you both throw your toys out of the pram.

Im just having a laugh and the fact you cant gauge me and suss me annoys you both no end. Its hilarious.

Adios Roathie. Im sure you're well acquainted with Spanish now thanks to the influx of tika taka at your allegedly prestigious and world admired club.

You are so easily led! Goodbye troll! No debate in you! You are just a man who hectors! So obsessed with being right but you are wrong!

I dont think you can compare yourself and I, vastly different animals and vastly different presence on this board.

You say all this as if University is some holy grail that not many people achieve. I don't know that many people that DONT go to uni these days, its not something special yet you bring it up whenever you are challenged or criticised. I went to uni as did all of my mates, and most of my mates are as thick as pig shit.

I say your opinion is worthless due to the fact you don't really have one. And when you do actually have one then nobody listens because they think you will just change it next week so have no conviction behind it. The basis of your opinions and my opinions are completely different. I say what I feel and think through my experiences and knowledge, where as you say what you decide on that second.

My opinion can never be worthless and everyone knows that really, and hence im more often than not proved spot on with it and always stick to my guns as its my beliefs.

Its a bit like saying Oasis are a great band and then Oasis are a crap band the week later. Neither of these opinions are correct and neither are wrong because its subjective, however your opinion is worthless as you take a contradictory stance on the two extremes. In terms of debate, you are good however you cant expect people to listen or take you seriously as the chances are that it isnt even your opinion anyway - capiche?

I don't care Roathie but I like how you took the time to respond with such a long paragraph. If you didn't care, why bother? You take everything on the forum so seriously. You need to relax.

You think I value your opinion at all? You claim you don't value mine well good for you, its expected. I've never met you and you're not someone important or known so why would you value yours? Come on, get real Roathie. You and Chuckles run around the forum like headless chickens taking it all serious and when someone says something like Bony is crap or Gestede is world class you both throw your toys out of the pram.

Im just having a laugh and the fact you cant gauge me and suss me annoys you both no end. Its hilarious.

Adios Roathie. Im sure you're well acquainted with Spanish now thanks to the influx of tika taka at your allegedly prestigious and world admired club.

Dont care? Who said I do or dont care? 14 lines of text hardly constitutes a heartfelt thesis

Im just telling you how it is. Whenever you are caught out or make a bit of a tit of yourself you say "i was only joking" or something of that ilk.

What makes you think i take this seriously? Have you ever seen me get annoyed with anything? No. I use this forum for its purpose, to talk football. If you want to waste your time saying Gestede is the greatest striker ever then be my guest but dont cry and throw your toys out of the pram if I disagree with you.

My statement that your opinion is worthless was not a personal attack but an obvious statement of fact. If I say I love babybell and you should all go out and buy it and then on another say how awful is is, no matter how many valid points I make on either... My opinion is worthless as a result.