Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:43 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:How can anyone defend his effort to block a cross leading to West Hams goal. Quite frankly my nan could've looked more commited,
The cross Jarvis played which you are talking about was hit first time and didnt give Whitts any chance to get the block in. Unfortunately jarvis is lighening quick compared to Whitts and showed a touch of class with that movement and cross.
I am more concerned with how the f**k Declan John was so far out of position (He was nearly by the touchline yet the ball had been pinged from the other side) and KTC ball waching and lett ign C.Cole get in front of him.
He left it too late to cover. forgivable if he were pulling up trees in attack, but he is not.
Why was he covering in the first place. Declan John was a mile away from where he should have been.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:43 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:46 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:04 pm
nubbsy wrote:Oh and the goal was theo's fault, second or third time he's let his marker go at far post this season.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:06 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:nubbsy wrote:Oh and the goal was theo's fault, second or third time he's let his marker go at far post this season.
Spot on.
KTC cannot defend to save his life. Good going forward, pants at the back.
Coles goal was similair to Southamptons 2nd with KTC just ball watching.
Pretty sure Whitts had the blame for that too.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:25 pm
Blue_Always wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:nubbsy wrote:Oh and the goal was theo's fault, second or third time he's let his marker go at far post this season.
Spot on.
KTC cannot defend to save his life. Good going forward, pants at the back.
Coles goal was similair to Southamptons 2nd with KTC just ball watching.
Pretty sure Whitts had the blame for that too.
Don't you feel sorry for Theo with Whitts in front of him though? I predict that Theo will improve once Whitts is moved or dropped.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:29 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:32 pm
Blue_Always wrote:Whitts is affecting Theo, this Whitts apathy is affecting players left to right. It only takes one player to destabalize everything Mario.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:36 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Whitts is affecting Theo, this Whitts apathy is affecting players left to right. It only takes one player to destabalize everything Mario.
Bore off you dickhead the adults are trying to have a football discussion.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:41 pm
Blue_Always wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Whitts is affecting Theo, this Whitts apathy is affecting players left to right. It only takes one player to destabalize everything Mario.
Bore off you dickhead the adults are trying to have a football discussion.
Calm down will you, it's not as if football is an exact science and like you said it's about opinions. If one of the midfield continually turns a blind eye to the runner. ALL of that unit will lose position. No the gloves are off, i'm surprised you have a 1980's attitude to flair players not having to tackle, get with the times man
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:48 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:57 pm
np20 wrote:Now the defensive errors stat is very wrong and shows why you can't use stats for certain things. Whitts has been caught in wrong positions, failed to track back Etc. All are defensive errors. It isn't just missed tackles, or giving balls away that are errors. It all adds up at this level.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:58 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Whitts is affecting Theo, this Whitts apathy is affecting players left to right. It only takes one player to destabalize everything Mario.
Bore off you dickhead the adults are trying to have a football discussion.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:02 pm
JB39. wrote:np20 wrote:Now the defensive errors stat is very wrong and shows why you can't use stats for certain things. Whitts has been caught in wrong positions, failed to track back Etc. All are defensive errors. It isn't just missed tackles, or giving balls away that are errors. It all adds up at this level.
I'll listen to professional stat takers thanks who've been trained to take stats in accordance to the set criteria. They haven't got such a good reputation as stats providers for nothing FFS.
Cringing at people saying stats can be manipulated. All they are in this instance are records of what took place. Theres no sample pool to criticise. Its just professional stat takers recording information. They've been trained to do this so they know what theyre doing.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:06 pm
JB39. wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Whitts is affecting Theo, this Whitts apathy is affecting players left to right. It only takes one player to destabalize everything Mario.
Bore off you dickhead the adults are trying to have a football discussion.
All the kids coming home from school around this time Polo.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:08 pm
Blue_Always wrote: I don't understand you barnett.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:10 pm
JB39. wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Whitts is affecting Theo, this Whitts apathy is affecting players left to right. It only takes one player to destabalize everything Mario.
Bore off you dickhead the adults are trying to have a football discussion.
All the kids coming home from school around this time Polo.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:13 pm
np20 wrote:Don't you go to school yourself you? Aberystwyth uni school of business or something

Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:14 pm
JB39. wrote:np20 wrote:Don't you go to school yourself you? Aberystwyth uni school of business or something
School of business?
I study Internet Computing at University. That's at University, not school. Im sure I don't have to explain the concept of further and higher education to yourself.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:17 pm
Blue_Always wrote:It's school, now run along before you get repremanded by the head.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:29 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:29 pm
JB39. wrote:Blue_Always wrote: I don't understand you barnett.
Nobody does. Im a bullshitter.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:37 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:40 pm
Legs 11 wrote:JB39. wrote:Blue_Always wrote: I don't understand you barnett.
Nobody does. Im a bullshitter.
i understand
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:42 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:43 pm
Pricey wrote:Where's the shitting out of a tackle stat,because his must be 100% he never tackles
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:51 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:JB39. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:I go by what my eyes see and what they see is sideways passing, refusal to tackle, bad positioning (defensively) and slow to close his man down. Hes a luxury player imo and we cant afford that in our situation. Stats can be manipulated to suit any opinion.
Agree with craigccfc, I'm yet to see Whittingham carve open a back four... I've said it before, set pieces you won't get a better delivery but as for open play I think he's been poor. No comparison with ozil, you're talking different levels of class. Whittingham will never be 40 million quid! I do think he's done the club proud and there's no denying he's a nice guy, but me personally I'd rather an ozil like player who isn't that nice off the field than a lovely boy Whittingham.
people arent a disgrace because they think differently.
He's our second best player and thats a fact yet people continuously say he's not good enough for this level. Should we sell the entire squad, Caulker aside, then? Because they're clearly not good enough either including Medel as Whittingham has proven to be better at this level than them all. Just because he doesn't rush into tackles like a dog chasing a ball doesn't mean he's not good enough. This Malky high pressure rubbish is laughable. You don't see Ozil doing it either for Arsenal because he's not an idiot and knows that he must conserve energy and use it wisely. Its called having a brain.
As for the sideways passes I cant help but laugh. He's created 37 chances. Not our fault that on 33 of those occasions we lacked the clinical finisher to put the ball in the net is it?
why do you think hes created most chances?
Maybe because he took our set pieces and thats the way we tried to score.....stats can be manipulated.
just because hes a nice guy doesnt mean hes a great player. As for steaming in......just attempting to tackle and not get scared would be something!
As i said, luxury player.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:56 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:05 pm
Blue_Always wrote:
a. To educate or train (a person, the mind, etc.); (of experience, God, etc.) to make wise, skilful, or tractable by training or discipline; (more generally) to impart wisdom or understanding to. Freq. in pass.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:16 pm