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Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:38 pm

That's because the Public sector ballooned under Labour to false economy levels FFS!!!!

Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:42 pm

What is more respectable.

A guy who sells second hand cars, gets up at 7am every day sells till 6 at night, but during the day he sniffs 3 grams of Charlie .

Or the person who sits on his arse refuses to work and claims a small amount from the Government whilst drinking asdas cheapest beer all day.

My point 1 is illegal one is not. Perceptions are fucked up!

Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:50 pm

Cornishblue wrote:What is more respectable.

A guy who sells second hand cars, gets up at 7am every day sells till 6 at night, but during the day he sniffs 3 grams of Charlie .

Or the person who sits on his arse refuses to work and claims a small amount from the Government whilst drinking asdas cheapest beer all day.

My point 1 is illegal one is not. Perceptions are fucked up!


Neither to me. Ones a drug user and the others a lazy drinking scrounger.

Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:54 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Sorry but there's people who simply haven't got a clue on here tonight. Bridgend bluebird I think you may not know but when Labour come to power in 1997 they took over one of the best financial situations this country has EVER had yet when it left in 2010 we were in the highest Recessions EVER and you cant blame the Bad tories are that!!!


Yea, just remembered about the recession being early than thought, I'll own up to making that big mistake.

But have the Tories really done anything to help the country? The economy is starting to improve and yet the government announce £25billion of budget cuts.


The economy is starting to improve , believe that one if you want. The country is on the verge of splitting from Scotland, N Ireland is just as divided as ever. Millions upon millions of immigrants are living in enclaves and are part of the growing division in England. Wales is in it's infancy of mass third world immigration that will eventually overwhelm parts of Cardiff and dare I say it on here, Swansea. It's not just about the economy, the country is fragmenting and is the most divided it's ever been since the days of William Wallace. The UK is declining and is in big trouble internally, but many will bury their heads in the sand and carry on voting for the same old garbage that got us here! The economy is improving - hip hip...... :x

Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:45 pm

Gaz777 wrote:
cigar wrote:Phillip green payed his wife a £1 billion dividend,she's a non dom so avoiding any tax.These are the people to target not the poorest who haven't got a penny to scratch their ass.


They can save 13 billion by stopping Foreign aid. A further 8 billion by getting out and divorcing our real unelected government in Brussels. Chasing people like green is a drop in the ocean to the amount of government waste. The second largest advertiser in the UK is the government, can you believe that. The NHS is the second largest employer - in the World - in the World for God's sake. The Chinese military is the largest.
The amount of waste is so staggering, you'd be able to slash taxes overnight no problem, but the government is like a hoover that is out of control and consumes everything in it's path. Slash government and give them less taxes to waste is the answer - not giving them more year on year!


You realise that the foreign aid isn't just given as a freebie? They get cast iron agreements that the aid will be used to buy from British companies. It's effectively a way of improving the economy and encouraging business.

Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:29 pm

He's Spartacus wrote:
Military Junta wrote:You wouldn't believe how many lazy bastards there are out there at the lower skilled end of the market.

Benefits should stop unless you are seriously ill and no I don't even mean having one leg because you can still sit by a desk!!!

If there was no benefits you watch the work ethic in this country simply change overnight!!!

Believe me there is work out there if you really want it

increase the minimum wage to £9 an hour,people will make the effort then,what is it at the moment £6.20,no wonder people stay at home.


Wouldn't be any jobs to go to every 50p the minimum wage up puts roughly £1000 a person per year on the employers tax bill
Ie employers national insurance liability etc

They'd be firing and not hiring if this be the case as much as I'd love to see wages rise whilst the economic climate remains as it is I just don't see it happennin

Re: Benefits street

Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:29 pm

Aramore wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:
cigar wrote:Phillip green payed his wife a £1 billion dividend,she's a non dom so avoiding any tax.These are the people to target not the poorest who haven't got a penny to scratch their ass.


They can save 13 billion by stopping Foreign aid. A further 8 billion by getting out and divorcing our real unelected government in Brussels. Chasing people like green is a drop in the ocean to the amount of government waste. The second largest advertiser in the UK is the government, can you believe that. The NHS is the second largest employer - in the World - in the World for God's sake. The Chinese military is the largest.
The amount of waste is so staggering, you'd be able to slash taxes overnight no problem, but the government is like a hoover that is out of control and consumes everything in it's path. Slash government and give them less taxes to waste is the answer - not giving them more year on year!


You realise that the foreign aid isn't just given as a freebie? They get cast iron agreements that the aid will be used to buy from British companies. It's effectively a way of improving the economy and encouraging business.


Im Welsh mate. Any chance of foreign aid from London? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:10 am

Think ill just watch the news and mind my own business tonight :laughing6:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:41 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
He's Spartacus wrote:
Military Junta wrote:You wouldn't believe how many lazy bastards there are out there at the lower skilled end of the market.

Benefits should stop unless you are seriously ill and no I don't even mean having one leg because you can still sit by a desk!!!

If there was no benefits you watch the work ethic in this country simply change overnight!!!

Believe me there is work out there if you really want it

increase the minimum wage to £9 an hour,people will make the effort then,what is it at the moment £6.20,no wonder people stay at home.


Wouldn't be any jobs to go to every 50p the minimum wage up puts roughly £1000 a person per year on the employers tax bill
Ie employers national insurance liability etc

They'd be firing and not hiring if this be the case as much as I'd love to see wages rise whilst the economic climate remains as it is I just don't see it happennin


Excatly, too many people just listen to so much left wing propaganda which NEVER tells the complete stories and people not knowing the hidden costs/taxes of employing people is deffo one of them.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:47 am

Is it Racist to comment that Bulgarian and Romania people are now free to seek employment in the UK.
More people = less jobs

I was called a racist for making this comment.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:04 am

Cornishblue wrote:Is it Racist to comment that Bulgarian and Romania people are now free to seek employment in the UK.
More people = less jobs

I was called a racist for making this comment.


No its fact. However, the only reason migrants are needed to be employed is because of the British. We have a society of self harming mate. Loads of Brits come out of school and get up the duff or get a girl up the duff and then just settle for a life on handouts because they don't know where to go from there or being a parent is tougher than they ever imagined. Its an entire culture thing as well. You see these youth's hanging around outside shops in tracksuits all the time etc. when they could be learning or working and doing something worthwhile.

Loads of Brits lack the skills for even jobs like working in retail shops and so on - I've seen people turning up to interviews in jogging bottoms and a hoody. They're not going to get the job. If you cant be driven to gain qualifications and so on and do well then how are you supposed to convince an employer you're driven enough to give your all for them?

The Bulgarians and Romanians will only take jobs that the British don't want to do mostly anyway. Some will get more highly skilled jobs whilst others will just settle for a low scale job on a better wage than what they got back home.

There are loads of British who have no intention of working and their argument is always the same 'theres no jobs due to immigrants'. As Brownie pointed out theres always work if you want it. He advertises on here often. I know people who've been made redundant and just walked around industrial estates and got a job on the same day. DIdnt stop looking until someone gave them a chance. Just a bit of drive and willpower it took.

Too many in this country want everything for nothing and don't want to work for it. They want it handed on a plate and think they're owed something. Disgusting mentality.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:12 am

I liked Paul O'grady until last night.

Standard BBC allowing anti Tory bellends on their shows.

"Cameron would bring back the work house if he could". As he sits their in his nice suit with a mint house back home and a bulging bank account.

"I am a passionate Labour supporter and I can't understand how people can vote for 'that' party". Maybe because they have the brain to look past your ignorance and realise how badly Labours last 'efforts' were.

The bent clown claims Tories have no idea what working peoples lives are like. Seems the Tory idea of working hard doesn't seem to get through his ridiculously biased brain. Take a long walk off a short cliff. There are rich people in the Labour party, if he didn't realise. Union leaders that are paid thousands. :thumbup:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:16 am

All valid until....

Willy-Wonka wrote:The bent clown




oh dear :roll:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:19 am

What? I heard he is a prime suspect in the match fixing scandals. He's as bent as they come. :happy1:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:29 pm

There's something not right with Ed Miliband.

There were rumours that he was bent and then he wouldn't put his own name against his childrens birth certificates until Labour party applied pressure on him to do it.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:18 pm

What concerns me is that there a lot of disadvantaged young people with severe learning difficulties in this country who would love to work, but can't get past the interview process.

Case in point, my nephew, he is Autistic. He has only ever worked in Mcdonalds (8 years now)

He didn't even get past the initial application phase for Cardiff Bay.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:03 pm

Cornishblue wrote:What concerns me is that there a lot of disadvantaged young people with severe learning difficulties in this country who would love to work, but can't get past the interview process.

Case in point, my nephew, he is Autistic. He has only ever worked in Mcdonalds (8 years now)

He didn't even get past the initial application phase for Cardiff Bay.


Is he condition noticable as there are a number of different levels of autisum..?

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:44 pm

Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.

That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:00 pm

I wouldn't vote for David Cameron. He is still struggling to remove his cock from the arse of the other Slough Grammar old boys.

Can't stand David Cameron. The bloke is a lucky sod, who was provided for his entire life. He has no clue what poverty really means.

A vote for him is a complete waste of a vote.

f**k The Tories.

Lib dem all the way

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:01 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.

That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.


:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:23 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.

That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:29 pm

All channel 4 are doing are taking an extreme and portraying it as the "norm". They are playing on peoples already warped perception that people on benefits are scroungers and on drugs and scum, just to get the viewers.
There are many families who genuinely can't work or cant get work who need the help.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:44 pm

BluebirdFoz wrote:All channel 4 are doing are taking an extreme and portraying it as the "norm". They are playing on peoples already warped perception that people on benefits are scroungers and on drugs and scum, just to get the viewers.
There are many families who genuinely can't work or cant get work who need the help.


For the love of god..........read the opening post nobody is on about genuine people looking for work, or the old aged or people on tax credits............we are on about the work shy lazy gits who have never worked, dont look for work and dont intend to work.........who sit on there arse all day smoking, drinking and taking drugs............now for the last time....if anyone on here can tell me they dont know someone like that , or even streets of people just like that in south wales....you tell me.And dont talk about jobs.......its strange that nobody in my family or my wifes are on the dole......and we are all manual workers............check out the gov job website.........loads of jobs....my wife does agency care....every care home she goes to.........begging for staff......ive simply had enough of working all hours to keep paying more and more tax to these work shy lay abouts.I could stomach it if it was going to the old aged or the genuinley sick.........but im not paying half my income to people so they can piss it up against the wall.
if anyone is going to do that its going to be me.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:52 pm

Denzil wrote:
BluebirdFoz wrote:All channel 4 are doing are taking an extreme and portraying it as the "norm". They are playing on peoples already warped perception that people on benefits are scroungers and on drugs and scum, just to get the viewers.
There are many families who genuinely can't work or cant get work who need the help.


For the love of god..........read the opening post nobody is on about genuine people looking for work, or the old aged or people on tax credits............we are on about the work shy lazy gits who have never worked, dont look for work and dont intend to work.........who sit on there arse all day smoking, drinking and taking drugs............now for the last time....if anyone on here can tell me they dont know someone like that , or even streets of people just like that in south wales....you tell me.And dont talk about jobs.......its strange that nobody in my family or my wifes are on the dole......and we are all manual workers............check out the gov job website.........loads of jobs....my wife does agency care....every care home she goes to.........begging for staff......ive simply had enough of working all hours to keep paying more and more tax to these work shy lay abouts.I could stomach it if it was going to the old aged or the genuinley sick.........but im not paying half my income to people so they can piss it up against the wall.
if anyone is going to do that its going to be me.


The point is that 'half your income' doesn't go to the lazy and exploitive people you mention. The fact is that only 3% of the welfare budget is spent on the unemployed, and only 0.7% is lost to benefit cheats. This is wrong obviously but it has been wildly over exaggerated by programmes such as this and the tabloid press. It is in no way an immediate concern.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:14 pm

Where do you get your figures from ?
I dont care if its a pound..........there will be a riot in this country soon.........and it wont be the lazy layabouts, it wont be the right wing, it wont be the left wing...........it will be the poor old man in the middle, who works 7 days a week to try and make a decent living.....just to have some of it taken away to keep the rich in low taxes and the wont work in plasma tvs drink and fags.end of.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:40 pm

People aren't allowed a tv a fag or a drink,what they spend their benefit on is nothing to do with you denzil.can't believe you said their not allowed a tv.Your deep enough now stop digging.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:45 pm

OhhhGa wrote:The point is that 'half your income' doesn't go to the lazy and exploitive people you mention. The fact is that only 3% of the welfare budget is spent on the unemployed, and only 0.7% is lost to benefit cheats. This is wrong obviously but it has been wildly over exaggerated by programmes such as this and the tabloid press. It is in no way an immediate concern.


Wrong. 5.6% goes to unemployment and 3% is spent on benefit cheats or alleged benefit cheats i.e. people who dont need it according to figures.

3% of £112bn and its not an immediate concern? :lol:

I despair. No wonder this country got in such a mess in the first place. Credit cards, pay day loans etc. when will people learn?

Buy what you can afford is what my dad always told me. If you cant afford it then wait until you can.

£3.6bn being spent on those that dont need it is a disgrace. No wonder areas in the UK are being neglected when money like that is just being thrown on lazy people.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:47 pm

Pac Man wrote:People aren't allowed a tv a fag or a drink,what they spend their benefit on is nothing to do with you denzil.can't believe you said their not allowed a tv.Your deep enough now stop digging.


It is when he's footing the bill through taxation. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

People on benefits shouldn't have a television. They should be out looking for work and when they're not they should be eating, sleeping etc.

If they want a television they should work for it.

Benefits should cover the bare minimum. When they dont they just encourage people to be lazy. Britain is a perfect example.

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:49 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.

That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.


:thumbup:

Re: Benefits street

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:58 pm

Plan A is working!!!! Well done George Osbourne!!!! :malky:
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