Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:38 pm
Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:42 pm
Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:50 pm
Cornishblue wrote:What is more respectable.
A guy who sells second hand cars, gets up at 7am every day sells till 6 at night, but during the day he sniffs 3 grams of Charlie .
Or the person who sits on his arse refuses to work and claims a small amount from the Government whilst drinking asdas cheapest beer all day.
My point 1 is illegal one is not. Perceptions are fucked up!
Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:54 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Military Junta wrote:Sorry but there's people who simply haven't got a clue on here tonight. Bridgend bluebird I think you may not know but when Labour come to power in 1997 they took over one of the best financial situations this country has EVER had yet when it left in 2010 we were in the highest Recessions EVER and you cant blame the Bad tories are that!!!
Yea, just remembered about the recession being early than thought, I'll own up to making that big mistake.
But have the Tories really done anything to help the country? The economy is starting to improve and yet the government announce £25billion of budget cuts.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:45 pm
Gaz777 wrote:cigar wrote:Phillip green payed his wife a £1 billion dividend,she's a non dom so avoiding any tax.These are the people to target not the poorest who haven't got a penny to scratch their ass.
They can save 13 billion by stopping Foreign aid. A further 8 billion by getting out and divorcing our real unelected government in Brussels. Chasing people like green is a drop in the ocean to the amount of government waste. The second largest advertiser in the UK is the government, can you believe that. The NHS is the second largest employer - in the World - in the World for God's sake. The Chinese military is the largest.
The amount of waste is so staggering, you'd be able to slash taxes overnight no problem, but the government is like a hoover that is out of control and consumes everything in it's path. Slash government and give them less taxes to waste is the answer - not giving them more year on year!
Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:29 pm
He's Spartacus wrote:Military Junta wrote:You wouldn't believe how many lazy bastards there are out there at the lower skilled end of the market.
Benefits should stop unless you are seriously ill and no I don't even mean having one leg because you can still sit by a desk!!!
If there was no benefits you watch the work ethic in this country simply change overnight!!!
Believe me there is work out there if you really want it
increase the minimum wage to £9 an hour,people will make the effort then,what is it at the moment £6.20,no wonder people stay at home.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:29 pm
Aramore wrote:Gaz777 wrote:cigar wrote:Phillip green payed his wife a £1 billion dividend,she's a non dom so avoiding any tax.These are the people to target not the poorest who haven't got a penny to scratch their ass.
They can save 13 billion by stopping Foreign aid. A further 8 billion by getting out and divorcing our real unelected government in Brussels. Chasing people like green is a drop in the ocean to the amount of government waste. The second largest advertiser in the UK is the government, can you believe that. The NHS is the second largest employer - in the World - in the World for God's sake. The Chinese military is the largest.
The amount of waste is so staggering, you'd be able to slash taxes overnight no problem, but the government is like a hoover that is out of control and consumes everything in it's path. Slash government and give them less taxes to waste is the answer - not giving them more year on year!
You realise that the foreign aid isn't just given as a freebie? They get cast iron agreements that the aid will be used to buy from British companies. It's effectively a way of improving the economy and encouraging business.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:10 am
Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:41 am
smakerzthebluebird wrote:He's Spartacus wrote:Military Junta wrote:You wouldn't believe how many lazy bastards there are out there at the lower skilled end of the market.
Benefits should stop unless you are seriously ill and no I don't even mean having one leg because you can still sit by a desk!!!
If there was no benefits you watch the work ethic in this country simply change overnight!!!
Believe me there is work out there if you really want it
increase the minimum wage to £9 an hour,people will make the effort then,what is it at the moment £6.20,no wonder people stay at home.
Wouldn't be any jobs to go to every 50p the minimum wage up puts roughly £1000 a person per year on the employers tax bill
Ie employers national insurance liability etc
They'd be firing and not hiring if this be the case as much as I'd love to see wages rise whilst the economic climate remains as it is I just don't see it happennin
Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:47 am
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:04 am
Cornishblue wrote:Is it Racist to comment that Bulgarian and Romania people are now free to seek employment in the UK.
More people = less jobs
I was called a racist for making this comment.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:12 am
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:16 am
Willy-Wonka wrote:The bent clown
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:19 am
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:29 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:18 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:03 pm
Cornishblue wrote:What concerns me is that there a lot of disadvantaged young people with severe learning difficulties in this country who would love to work, but can't get past the interview process.
Case in point, my nephew, he is Autistic. He has only ever worked in Mcdonalds (8 years now)
He didn't even get past the initial application phase for Cardiff Bay.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:44 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:00 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:01 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.
That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:23 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.
That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:29 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:44 pm
BluebirdFoz wrote:All channel 4 are doing are taking an extreme and portraying it as the "norm". They are playing on peoples already warped perception that people on benefits are scroungers and on drugs and scum, just to get the viewers.
There are many families who genuinely can't work or cant get work who need the help.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:52 pm
Denzil wrote:BluebirdFoz wrote:All channel 4 are doing are taking an extreme and portraying it as the "norm". They are playing on peoples already warped perception that people on benefits are scroungers and on drugs and scum, just to get the viewers.
There are many families who genuinely can't work or cant get work who need the help.
For the love of god..........read the opening post nobody is on about genuine people looking for work, or the old aged or people on tax credits............we are on about the work shy lazy gits who have never worked, dont look for work and dont intend to work.........who sit on there arse all day smoking, drinking and taking drugs............now for the last time....if anyone on here can tell me they dont know someone like that , or even streets of people just like that in south wales....you tell me.And dont talk about jobs.......its strange that nobody in my family or my wifes are on the dole......and we are all manual workers............check out the gov job website.........loads of jobs....my wife does agency care....every care home she goes to.........begging for staff......ive simply had enough of working all hours to keep paying more and more tax to these work shy lay abouts.I could stomach it if it was going to the old aged or the genuinley sick.........but im not paying half my income to people so they can piss it up against the wall.
if anyone is going to do that its going to be me.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:14 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:40 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:45 pm
OhhhGa wrote:The point is that 'half your income' doesn't go to the lazy and exploitive people you mention. The fact is that only 3% of the welfare budget is spent on the unemployed, and only 0.7% is lost to benefit cheats. This is wrong obviously but it has been wildly over exaggerated by programmes such as this and the tabloid press. It is in no way an immediate concern.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:47 pm
Pac Man wrote:People aren't allowed a tv a fag or a drink,what they spend their benefit on is nothing to do with you denzil.can't believe you said their not allowed a tv.Your deep enough now stop digging.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:49 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe we have so many fuckwits (That's the word for them) who are still labour votes. I was a labour voter, my whole life until Tony Blair. From 1997 until 2010 we endured the worst government we will ever have and all this comes at a time when during the early 00s we had one of the best economies in the world, jobs galore, enough jobs to justify letting in a few immigrants in to fill the posts. But what did Blair and Brown do? Let in half of Europe and swelled the public sector and started two wars. For that I will never forgive them.
That party should never be forgiven and to hear Milliband and Balls talk they will make the same mistakes and f**k this country up again. Cameron is putting the great back into Britain and is doing a fantastic job. It makes no sense to vote for any other party than the Conservatives unless your a workshy shithouse.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:58 pm