Cardiff city AFC is dead

working class
noun
1.
the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
"the housing needs of the working classes"
adjective
1.
relating to or characteristic of the working class.
"a working-class community"

working class
noun
1.
the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
"the housing needs of the working classes"
adjective
1.
relating to or characteristic of the working class.
"a working-class community"

When in doubt paste a dictionary definition? What is the working class characteristic? No offence but your silence tells me that we are dead.

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

working class
noun
1.
the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
"the housing needs of the working classes"
adjective
1.
relating to or characteristic of the working class.
"a working-class community"

When in doubt paste a dictionary definition? What is the working class characteristic? No offence but your silence tells me that we are dead.

Bingo... Silence is golden!!!

"But it tells me we are dead"

You consider yourself Working Class.....



Are you dead?

Working Class very much alive.... Football is not the definition of society.

Time to face facts chaps, our club is a joke and will never be the same. It used to be passionate, full of lads who would die for eachother, intimidating and a good day out for all concerned. To many wannabe 'lads' dressing in terrible gear who couldn't punch a hole through a wet echo, to many new fans who are happy to sit there like statues happy with the red, Gwynn and his band of merry men who bullied the remaining few loyal city that were going away... Probably because they know most of the Cardiff lot who would stand up to them are band.....
And a soulless stadium full of the most fickle fans i have ever met. No songs, no passion, no real love for the Cardiff we once new. Red... Shit badge.... And rising debts, this is only going one way, relegation and liquidation! Away used to be good, full of lads, singing old songs, new songs, piss up, passion and the odd bit of pushing and shoving with the old bill. It's getting like our home surrport now from what i have seen. The club is dead and the fans are to blame. Where is the riot over Malkey? When we turned to red we should have been steaming the bored room. We went from the most feared fans in the country, to the softest bunch of twats football has seen. Umm rant over, Cardiff is no longer, and I can't see it getting any better unfortunately.

Should be made a sticky this one.

Not the best worded but clearly the most sensible and post of the year.

I feel for you mate .... They have destroyed our club and turned it into a malyian franchised circus .

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

He's too thick to ask for payment mate ...... Sam only had to ask him. Remember Gwyns words " he's like a father to me "

Hope he kept the bigger mug t - shirt.

working class
noun
1.
the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
"the housing needs of the working classes"
adjective
1.
relating to or characteristic of the working class.
"a working-class community"

When in doubt paste a dictionary definition? What is the working class characteristic? No offence but your silence tells me that we are dead.

Bingo... Silence is golden!!!

"But it tells me we are dead"

You consider yourself Working Class.....



Are you dead?

Working Class very much alive.... Football is not the definition of society.

My working class traits have been bred out of me. So yes, purely as a working class entity I am dead. But this isn't about any individual, it's about a group and it's cultural characteristics. You just keep reassuring me the working class are alive as a group without giving any examples AT ALL. For instance, What is a working class thing to do? In the 80's it was football, but today it is..................over to you AJ

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

He's too thick to ask for payment mate ...... Sam only had to ask him. Remember Gwyns words " he's like a father to me "

Hope he kept the bigger mug t - shirt.

A lot of fatherless boys would love a dad like Sam.

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

He's too thick to ask for payment mate ...... Sam only had to ask him. Remember Gwyns words " he's like a father to me "

Hope he kept the bigger mug t - shirt.

A lot of fatherless boys would love a dad like Sam.

At 50 odd years old

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

He's too thick to ask for payment mate ...... Sam only had to ask him. Remember Gwyns words " he's like a father to me "

Hope he kept the bigger mug t - shirt.

A lot of fatherless boys would love a dad like Sam.

At 50 odd years old

Well Then it's more of a sugar-daddy dynamic. I'm talking generally about psychology here, I am not suggesting anything improper about any individual what so ever.

So there are no working class people who attend football matches?


This is a debate based on opinions mate I don't need to provide proof of that..

So there are no working class people who attend football matches?


This is a debate based on opinions mate I don't need to provide proof of that..

This isn't yet a debate you just keep repeating the same line about the working class being alive. Add a bit of substance then we can debate it's pros and cons.


As I have said It's not about the individual, we are talking culturally, I.E. A group of people sharing a certain characteristic. Where do these working class group activities exist? leisure centre gyms? ?Boxing gyms? The bookies? If there is a working class culture it's probably still alive in the bookies. would you agree?

Haha re-read the original post mate, you were asking about that subject I replied, don't try and twist it. We are red, f*cking red, a beer mat badge, a bonkers owner who does what he wants, and the most fickle fans in the country, as well as rising debts and a soulless stadium, like I said in the original post

Oh the irony.

Working mans boozer doesn't exist then.

Working class society no more.....


I've already said Away from football,you keep bringing it back to the game.


Bookies

Maybe it's just me living in Edinburgh but I see bus drivers scaffolders painters brickies lots of working class types in pubs,clubs at football games at weekends.

Maybe it's just me living in Edinburgh but I see bus drivers scaffolders painters brickies lots of working class types in pubs,clubs at football games at weekends.

you keep taking it back to the individual. as a culture, the working class is diluted to the point of irrelevance. to me that is death.

Did Gwyn say Sam hamman was like a father to him. I'm shocked and laughing at the same time.

Maybe it's just me living in Edinburgh but I see bus drivers scaffolders painters brickies lots of working class types in pubs,clubs at football games at weekends.

you keep taking it back to the individual. as a culture, the working class is diluted to the point of irrelevance. to me that is death.

To be a collective you must first have an individual yes?



bus drivers scaffolders painters brickies . COLLECTIVE YES?

Christ guys I wish I never said the working class is dead !!!!!!!

What I should have said that the ratio of working class to middle class has switched from 80/20 to 20/80 over the last 20 years.

I look around the family stand and see loads of 14/15 year olds sitting quietly with their parents, I would have been with my mates in a huddle under the TV gantry in the bob bank singing my heart out to my lungs burst......

Times have changed.......

Working class eastern Europeans outnumber the British working class in our country.

Christ guys I wish I never said the working class is dead !!!!!!!

What I should have said that the ratio of working class to middle class has switched from 80/20 to 20/80 over the last 20 years.

I look around the family stand and see loads of 14/15 year olds sitting quietly with their parents, I would have been with my mates in a huddle under the TV gantry in the bob bank singing my heart out to my lungs burst......

Times have changed.......

Spot-on!! there used to be about 10 -15 of us from Cwmbran as 15 year olds......drinking beer, playing snooker in Cardiff and then on to Ninian...great days!! that doesn't happen anymore im sure...and of course we loved the chanting was just great!! watching Jason Fowler, Carl Dale and co playing in BLUE great days

Welcome to the premiership. I've been to most aways and the home fans have been terrible. They don't have big firms either, few game lads that's it.

Maybe it's just me living in Edinburgh but I see bus drivers scaffolders painters brickies lots of working class types in pubs,clubs at football games at weekends.

you keep taking it back to the individual. as a culture, the working class is diluted to the point of irrelevance. to me that is death.

To be a collective you must first have an individual yes?



bus drivers scaffolders painters brickies . COLLECTIVE YES?

Oh I see you were slowly guiding me through the individual aspect before building me up to read the more complex ideas of a group dynamic.

What do bus drivers and painter do with their leisure time?, how do they behave? I'm sure there are a minority of middle class bus drivers, painters who fell through the cracks. What distinguishes them from the working class painter?

Time to face facts chaps, our club is a joke and will never be the same. It used to be passionate, full of lads who would die for eachother, intimidating and a good day out for all concerned. To many wannabe 'lads' dressing in terrible gear who couldn't punch a hole through a wet echo, to many new fans who are happy to sit there like statues happy with the red, Gwynn and his band of merry men who bullied the remaining few loyal city that were going away... Probably because they know most of the Cardiff lot who would stand up to them are band.....
And a soulless stadium full of the most fickle fans i have ever met. No songs, no passion, no real love for the Cardiff we once new. Red... Shit badge.... And rising debts, this is only going one way, relegation and liquidation! Away used to be good, full of lads, singing old songs, new songs, piss up, passion and the odd bit of pushing and shoving with the old bill. It's getting like our home surrport now from what i have seen. The club is dead and the fans are to blame. Where is the riot over Malkey? When we turned to red we should have been steaming the bored room. We went from the most feared fans in the country, to the softest bunch of twats football has seen. Umm rant over, Cardiff is no longer, and I can't see it getting any better unfortunately.

Should be made a sticky this one.

Not the best worded but clearly the most sensible and post of the year.

I feel for you mate .... They have destroyed our club and turned it into a malyian franchised circus .

In another post you refer to Cardiff City as 'you' and admit that you don't watch us. Now you refer to it as 'our club'. You should make up your mind. If you endorse views like those above then you are more suited to WHU. OUR club has moved on - thank Goodness.

Christ guys I wish I never said the working class is dead !!!!!!!

What I should have said that the ratio of working class to middle class has switched from 80/20 to 20/80 over the last 20 years.

I look around the family stand and see loads of 14/15 year olds sitting quietly with their parents, I would have been with my mates in a huddle under the TV gantry in the bob bank singing my heart out to my lungs burst......

Times have changed.......

Sitting quietly doesnt make you middle class ffs

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

Perhaps we should adopt the south american culture for murdering bus drivers for their takings as well then

Great post,

I am ashamed to say that Cardiff has a real soft under-belly which only needs to be tickled for us to stop complaining. That knob-head Gwyn Davies is paid to cause trouble within the discontenting voices of the new regime.

I have knowlegde of South American culture, and have spent some time abroad in a football crazy country. The Presidents of teams in South America often pay the 'barra brava' to surpress anger towards them. The problem in South America is there is not only 1 group who are fanatical so a change in the badge of any team in any league the streets turn the same colour as our new shirts.

They just wouldn't get awat with a 'rebrand' as every fan in South America does not let that shit happen

Perhaps we should adopt the south american culture for murdering bus drivers for their takings as well then

Why do you always take things to the extreme? Are you a thrill seeker Marioi?

Christ guys I wish I never said the working class is dead !!!!!!!

What I should have said that the ratio of working class to middle class has switched from 80/20 to 20/80 over the last 20 years.

I look around the family stand and see loads of 14/15 year olds sitting quietly with their parents, I would have been with my mates in a huddle under the TV gantry in the bob bank singing my heart out to my lungs burst......

Times have changed.......

Sitting quietly doesnt make you middle class ffs

Of course it doesn't

But the getting up to no good, bad habit forming, tossing around with your mates when your parents are not there is being priced or ticketed out.

For chist sake, Annis and his group were my role models in the early 80's how sad, mad and bad is that........

Post of the year, someone give this guy a medal. Tan out