Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:56 pm
Forever Blue wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he was wearing the same colour as the team ran out in?
Craig, why has he not done this before today then?
Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:57 pm
Bluebina wrote:CaerphillyAHM1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.quote]
Laudrup and Pochettino ( Southampton manager and cant speak a word of English) seems to be doing alright for themselves at the moment
Laudrup isn't doing that well, mind you he doesn't gt much backing in wages or transfer fees.....
Pochettino is doing well though.....
Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:19 pm
Welshpaul wrote:Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
Didnt Daya mention an issue with one of our shareholders changing his mind bout selling? Any truth in that??
Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:21 pm
T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:Now come on Annis stop worrying everything will work its self out! you overly concern yourself and really need to let the MAJORITY of fans decide what is best for our Club their are several thousands fans who also want the best for our club but unfortunately they don't have the vehicle you have to saturate their views.
Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:22 pm
Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:56 am
Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
The Norwegian league is currently ranked 26 of the 53 National Association in the latest Uefa Coefficient table whilst the Irish League (Republic) is ranked 43 and the Northern Ireland league 47th. So the Norwegian league is better than your giving it credit for there.
We have a huge challenge ahead of us to stay in this League but, in my opinion, the West Ham game will not define our season far more likely results through February and March as there are games which will give us an opportunity to go on a run of good results.
Having said that we currently have a 21% win rate and to get to the standard 40 point is safety mark we will need to win 38% of our remaining games, The big question is will it need 40 points to be safeand are there 3 worse teams than us.
History would tell us that Sunderland are doomed so are there two worse teams than us.
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Gary, I love your facts![]()
I have been to see Top Norwegian teams play Irish teams in Europe, both very very poor.
Reading your posts, you seem very worried as well about how were going to do for the remainder of the season.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:59 am
castleblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
The Norwegian league is currently ranked 26 of the 53 National Association in the latest Uefa Coefficient table whilst the Irish League (Republic) is ranked 43 and the Northern Ireland league 47th. So the Norwegian league is better than your giving it credit for there.
We have a huge challenge ahead of us to stay in this League but, in my opinion, the West Ham game will not define our season far more likely results through February and March as there are games which will give us an opportunity to go on a run of good results.
Having said that we currently have a 21% win rate and to get to the standard 40 point is safety mark we will need to win 38% of our remaining games, The big question is will it need 40 points to be safeand are there 3 worse teams than us.
History would tell us that Sunderland are doomed so are there two worse teams than us.
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Gary, I love your facts![]()
I have been to see Top Norwegian teams play Irish teams in Europe, both very very poor.
Reading your posts, you seem very worried as well about how were going to do for the remainder of the season.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:01 am
Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:07 am
THE DON wrote:Considering he was trying to make a good impression on OGS you would think his actions would be positive and not negative? If OGS thought for one minute that Tan was taking the piss or making some kind of sarcastic statement he'd be straight back to Norway in a flash. OGS would have obviously asked him about the blue top and the rebrand so it will be interesting to see what comes out over the next few days. The whole rebrand thing has had so much press and this has been increased over the last few weeks. I genuinely feel the support for a return to blue is growing at quite a rate from the fans, media and even people in Malaysia. The pressure may at some point be too much for tan and he could litterally be forced to make a dramatic uturn. There has to be a reason for the blue top, it definitely was not done on a whim.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:37 am
Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:18 am
Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
but from Feb onwards we need to be winning the key games and the run in looks doable.Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:30 am
Forever Blue wrote:adr wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Is it that much of a concern to you what Tan wears? He wore a jumper, why does it have to mean something. Who cares what colour it is?
Yes def as 99% 0f the time Tan wears that pathetic red top and today was some kind of statement from him.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:13 pm
piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
Whilst you may well have plenty of valid worries and concerns there isn't a single fact in your post.
In terms of the manager, any apopointment is risky. Even an experienced, proven Prem manager like Redknapp failed to keep QPR up with plently of money and Martinez was hardly a novice at Wigan last year !! We all hope OGS is successful but it's hardly something else we can pin on Tan if he isn't. Whilst I loved Malky's time and sang as loud as anyone at Liverpool 5 points out of 24 is relegation form and, in the cold light of day I can see that something had to be done to, hopefully, give us a new impetus.
As for finance, well that is pure conjecture again. If we get to the end of the season without Tan having converted his loans to equity then you have a point, but even you state that intention is for this to be done in February.
Results in January will not be the killer for us, although a couple of shocks could helpbut from Feb onwards we need to be winning the key games and the run in looks doable.
As for the blue jumper - probably nothing in it but it would be a massive PR coupe for VT to announce a return to blue on the back of the new manager appointment !! Having said that, yesterday's result hardly will have convinced the nutter that it's at all lucky
Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:15 pm
Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:39 pm
Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.
Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.
Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.
It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.
Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.
Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.
Whilst you may well have plenty of valid worries and concerns there isn't a single fact in your post.
In terms of the manager, any apopointment is risky. Even an experienced, proven Prem manager like Redknapp failed to keep QPR up with plently of money and Martinez was hardly a novice at Wigan last year !! We all hope OGS is successful but it's hardly something else we can pin on Tan if he isn't. Whilst I loved Malky's time and sang as loud as anyone at Liverpool 5 points out of 24 is relegation form and, in the cold light of day I can see that something had to be done to, hopefully, give us a new impetus.
As for finance, well that is pure conjecture again. If we get to the end of the season without Tan having converted his loans to equity then you have a point, but even you state that intention is for this to be done in February.
Results in January will not be the killer for us, although a couple of shocks could helpbut from Feb onwards we need to be winning the key games and the run in looks doable.
As for the blue jumper - probably nothing in it but it would be a massive PR coupe for VT to announce a return to blue on the back of the new manager appointment !! Having said that, yesterday's result hardly will have convinced the nutter that it's at all lucky
Straight answers please
I will just start by two simple facts, what English club has he managed?
Where is the debt to equity ?
Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:47 pm
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:14 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Annis if the squad isn't good enough then whose fault is that?
Malky has had the money, time for a fresh set of eyes.
I still think Campbell is good enough if we can give him some kind of service instead of scraps. The reason we are the lowest scorers is because Malky defended defender and wait and hoped we would score from a corner or free kick. It got us points to start with but prem managers could see what was happening and changed tactics, Malky never and the points soon dried up.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:21 pm
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:22 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:24 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Polo, Facts are there, we were not once in the bottom 3 under Malky
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:43 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Polo, Facts are there, we were not once in the bottom 3 under Malky
Only a blind man couldnt see thats exactly where we were heading under him.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Polo, Facts are there, we were not once in the bottom 3 under Malky
Only a blind man couldnt see thats exactly where we were heading under him.
Polo, We never did though, did we?
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:49 pm
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:50 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Polo, Facts are there, we were not once in the bottom 3 under Malky
Only a blind man couldnt see thats exactly where we were heading under him.
Polo, We never did though, did we?
Thanks to some lucky early point when we were an unknown quantity.
Weve been in freefall last 2 months and if we had stuck with him we were going down. NQAT.
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:51 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:Its irrelevant where we were when Malky left, its where we were going.
For a team that apparently backed Malky they didnt show it boxing day when he needed them to. Funny how 2 days later they were flying for 70mins.........hmmmmmmmm
Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:52 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Polo, Facts are there, we were not once in the bottom 3 under Malky
Only a blind man couldnt see thats exactly where we were heading under him.
Polo, We never did though, did we?
Thanks to some lucky early point when we were an unknown quantity.
Weve been in freefall last 2 months and if we had stuck with him we were going down. NQAT.
No such thing as luck, u earn your own luck in football, Ive always said that
Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:17 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky would never have amassed enough points to keep us up.
We couldnt score goals under him and were freefalling into the bottom 3.
Polo, Facts are there, we were not once in the bottom 3 under Malky
Only a blind man couldnt see thats exactly where we were heading under him.
Polo, We never did though, did we?
Thanks to some lucky early point when we were an unknown quantity.
Weve been in freefall last 2 months and if we had stuck with him we were going down. NQAT.
No such thing as luck, u earn your own luck in football, Ive always said that
Nonsense Ive seen you state many times DJ was lucky
Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:47 pm