Ian watkins sentenced to ...

But anyone thinking he doesnt deserve life clearly hasnt read the case notes. Beware, not easy reading.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/J ... others.pdf

Bloody hell they gave the baby crystal meth FFS. He cannot be human.

Planning to torture it for fun. Planning to make it have sex with dogs... The list is endless.

A mind as sick as that cannot be cured in my opinion. In certain parts of america im sure they chemicly astrate - this is a prime case for that. Not for punishment reasons but to protect the community and start his rehab to get those thought out of him.

Poor thing was a baby not an "it" mate.

They should put his dick in a vice in a wooden shed, then set fire to the shed and put a hacksaw in his hands, he has two choices then.

Planning to torture it for fun. Planning to make it have sex with dogs... The list is endless.

A mind as sick as that cannot be cured in my opinion. In certain parts of america im sure they chemicly astrate - this is a prime case for that. Not for punishment reasons but to protect the community and start his rehab to get those thought out of him.

Poor thing was a baby not an "it" mate.[/quote]

Dont be so pedantic. Im fully aware the subject was a baby - I just dont know if it was a boy or a girl.

Perfectly acceptable.

I give up Roathy

I give up Roathy

So you should. Winding people up on a subject such as this is deplorable especially when go on to call the baby a "thing". Now stop.

They should put his dick in a vice in a wooden shed, then set fire to the shed and put a hacksaw in his hands, he has two choices then.

That's superb! I'd definitely vote for that. Awfully sorry I'm too much of a wimp for this post, its upsetting me big time already. However, Castro is right, the chemical castration option I think is valid, however, some serious debates need to get to the bottom of why such monsters are in our midst, and what should be done about them. It seems the threshold of horror is falling in some sick recesses of our society.

They should put his dick in a vice in a wooden shed, then set fire to the shed and put a hacksaw in his hands, he has two choices then.

That's superb! I'd definitely vote for that. Awfully sorry I'm too much of a wimp for this post, its upsetting me big time already. However, Castro is right, the chemical castration option I think is valid, however, some serious debates need to get to the bottom of why such monsters are in our midst, and what should be done about them. It seems the threshold of horror is falling in some sick recesses of our society.

Its a mental illness, it has to be. No sane adult would ever even think about a baby in that way. The chemical castration would stop the urges which would also stop the thoughts id guess, and then the time in prison without those thoughts will surely go some way to making them better people upon release.

I give up Roathy

So you should. Winding people up on a subject such as this is deplorable especially when go on to call the baby a "thing". Now stop.

I didnt Castro............You did

They should put his dick in a vice in a wooden shed, then set fire to the shed and put a hacksaw in his hands, he has two choices then.

That's superb! I'd definitely vote for that. Awfully sorry I'm too much of a wimp for this post, its upsetting me big time already. However, Castro is right, the chemical castration option I think is valid, however, some serious debates need to get to the bottom of why such monsters are in our midst, and what should be done about them. It seems the threshold of horror is falling in some sick recesses of our society.

Its a mental illness, it has to be. No sane adult would ever even think about a baby in that way. The chemical castration would stop the urges which would also stop the thoughts id guess, and then the time in prison without those thoughts will surely go some way to making them better people upon release.


[/quote Its not very difficult to be a better person than that piece of filth MAKE HIM A BETTER PERSON HA you really are some Wanka.[/quote

I give up Roathy

So you should. Winding people up on a subject such as this is deplorable especially when go on to call the baby a "thing". Now stop.

I didnt Castro............You did

No i didnt, i didnt know the sex so referred to the human as "it". You called it a poor "thing".

How old are you by the way you sound like a right little knobend.

They should put his dick in a vice in a wooden shed, then set fire to the shed and put a hacksaw in his hands, he has two choices then.

That's superb! I'd definitely vote for that. Awfully sorry I'm too much of a wimp for this post, its upsetting me big time already. However, Castro is right, the chemical castration option I think is valid, however, some serious debates need to get to the bottom of why such monsters are in our midst, and what should be done about them. It seems the threshold of horror is falling in some sick recesses of our society.

Its a mental illness, it has to be. No sane adult would ever even think about a baby in that way. The chemical castration would stop the urges which would also stop the thoughts id guess, and then the time in prison without those thoughts will surely go some way to making them better people upon release.


[/quote Its not very difficult to be a better person than that piece of filth MAKE HIM A BETTER PERSON HA you really are some Wanka.[/quote

What the hell are you talking about now for heavens sake?

I give up Roathy

So you should. Winding people up on a subject such as this is deplorable especially when go on to call the baby a "thing". Now stop.

I didnt Castro............You did

No i didnt, i didnt know the sex so referred to the human as "it". You called it a poor "thing".

How old are you by the way you sound like a right little knobend.

Im 50 years older than you Im 65. I didnt realise you convert messages to sound , now that is impressive.

35 years jail not enough should just torture him to he dies!

He's lucky got 35yrs or the yanks will be after him ?

Whats the Americans got to do with anything?

America still retains capital punishment, where as we don't. I think that was the point he was making or America could seek extradition to get him to America.

He's not American though so they nothing to do with what happens to him

35 years jail not enough should just torture him to he dies!

He's lucky got 35yrs or the yanks will be after him ?

Whats the Americans got to do with anything?

America still retains capital punishment, where as we don't. I think that was the point he was making or America could seek extradition to get him to America.

He's not American though so they nothing to do with what happens to him

It certainly does as they suspect he did the same thing over there.

I give up Roathy

So you should. Winding people up on a subject such as this is deplorable especially when go on to call the baby a "thing". Now stop.

I didnt Castro............You did

No i didnt, i didnt know the sex so referred to the human as "it". You called it a poor "thing".

How old are you by the way you sound like a right little knobend.

Im 50 years older than you Im 65. I didnt realise you convert messages to sound , now that is impressive.

Then you really should act more appropriately. Its embarrassing to read.

He will never be a free man, even if he lives for another 60 years. All that time in prison will send him even more loopy than he is now, the sick c**t deserves everything he gets. I tell you something, the prison system for these lifers is disgusting, we treat them to well and it costs us a lot of money. I would give the inmates who have performed the worst crimes three square meals of only rice a day and a glass of water. Cold showers and only 30 mins of walking around time. Rest of the time the sickos can wallow in their depraved world.

The mothers will be named in the next few days, babies are young enough to have no memory of whats happened and they should never be told in my opinion. If I was told tommorrow that when I was a baby stuff like that happened to me id want to kill myself.

They should put his dick in a vice in a wooden shed, then set fire to the shed and put a hacksaw in his hands, he has two choices then.

Grumpy, you've been on the morons board again.

Shed, hacksaw, fire?

Left wing society would have just put a bullet in the back of the head.

He will never be a free man, even if he lives for another 60 years. All that time in prison will send him even more loopy than he is now, the sick c**t deserves everything he gets. I tell you something, the prison system for these lifers is disgusting, we treat them to well and it costs us a lot of money. I would give the inmates who have performed the worst crimes three square meals of only rice a day and a glass of water. Cold showers and only 30 mins of walking around time. Rest of the time the sickos can wallow in their depraved world.

The mothers will be named in the next few days, babies are young enough to have no memory of whats happened and they should never be told in my opinion. If I was told tommorrow that when I was a baby stuff like that happened to me id want to kill myself.

The mothers wont be and they never will. The victims have complete anonymity and rightly so, unfortunately to maintain that anonymity the mother are going to have to remain anonymous. Now the CPS had to make a decision whats more important the rights of the victims or justice. Personally I think they made the right decision.

He will never be a free man, even if he lives for another 60 years. All that time in prison will send him even more loopy than he is now, the sick c**t deserves everything he gets. I tell you something, the prison system for these lifers is disgusting, we treat them to well and it costs us a lot of money. I would give the inmates who have performed the worst crimes three square meals of only rice a day and a glass of water. Cold showers and only 30 mins of walking around time. Rest of the time the sickos can wallow in their depraved world.

The mothers will be named in the next few days, babies are young enough to have no memory of whats happened and they should never be told in my opinion. If I was told tommorrow that when I was a baby stuff like that happened to me id want to kill myself.

But will it send him loopy? It will if hes around people who will have it in for him, as thats a long stretch to watch your back for. But if hes in a different area around his own kind, then its a different stretch altogether. After what ive read throughout trial, i honestly think that after a year or so of being released he will reoffend.

But anyone thinking he doesnt deserve life clearly hasnt read the case notes. Beware, not easy reading.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/J ... others.pdf

to be pedantic, if you read this you would have known the babies were 1 male and 1 female and wouldnt have had to use "it"


anyway, that was shocking 29 years and potential release after2/3rds of that is probably the most harrowing thing in there

Stick him in with the general population in prison. Same with all convicted paedophiles. Let them fend for themselves, Like the rest of the prison population has to. Job done.

But anyone thinking he doesnt deserve life clearly hasnt read the case notes. Beware, not easy reading.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/J ... others.pdf

to be pedantic, if you read this you would have known the babies were 1 male and 1 female and wouldnt have had to use "it"


anyway, that was shocking 29 years and potential release after2/3rds of that is probably the most harrowing thing in there

Not you aswell? is this forum just full of morons lately? Pedantacism really isnt called for in a thread such as this.

I didnt know which one was the subject of the animal thing. Does it even matter? Im not apologising for saying "it". By saying "its a baby" you are calling it "it" by saying "its a human" you are calling it "it". "It" is a term to describe a single subject matter. He syas its not an "it" then calls it a "thing"

What a ridiculous way to take this thread. for the future of this thread, if anyone cannot discuss it without such moronic posts them this really isnt the subject for you.

Sent to a secure room for 35 years fed and given television and other perks?

He should be sent to Thailand and left in one of those big open prison cells with all the other inmates.

its his own fault for taking so much crystal meth he obviously knew it was making him a sick fu*k should of stopped

If we start public executing people as some people are screaming for, or letting him get killed in prison, then we may aswell give up. We will lose any credibility we ever had.

If you're going to talk about capital punishment, then you be the one to do it. Rather than throw judgements around online about someones life then passing the guilt of killing someone onto some poor person that has to carry it out.

Last time I checked R Kelly got caught pissing on a underage girl. Yet you still listen to his music.

You make it out as if he'll be in the Play Boy mansion in prision.

Sorry but the the main charge that has been in the public domain and news was he tried to rape a baby. I'm only going by what I've heard seen and read.

and that alone is worthy of life in prison in my book.

Yes I agree but let make the law compatible because murderers get life and get told to serve 8 years up. What is worse and what warrants different punishment?

Not all murders are the same. You cant put them all in the same category, different circumstances come with different murders, thats why you get different minimum term tariffs with the life sentence. i.e a murder of a child or a sexually motivated murder would come with a much stiffer tariff than say a murder which involved two blokes brawling with one pulling out a knife and stabbing the other to death.. People have been convicted of murder without actually being the person who committed the act. The cowbridge road jewellery shop murder that happened in cardiff is a good example. 2 of the people who were convicted of murder "charles frayne" "dallas lee" were getaway drivers, one of them parked up miles from where the actual murder took place, both of them didn't have a clue that what was only supposed to be a smash and grab would turn into a murder and attempted murder. Both of them convicted of murder along with the person who actually committed the act, but both had shorter tariffs put on their life sentence Than the other one. What watkins done deserves the harshest of sentences. Its only by shear luck that child isn't dead, so for me that puts him up there with the likes of april jones killer, and other such scum as him. Watkins should never be released from prison imo

If we start public executing people as some people are screaming for, or letting him get killed in prison, then we may aswell give up. We will lose any credibility we ever had.

If you're going to talk about capital punishment, then you be the one to do it. Rather than throw judgements around online about someones life then passing the guilt of killing someone onto some poor person that has to carry it out.

Last time I checked R Kelly got caught pissing on a underage girl. Yet you still listen to his music.

You make it out as if he'll be in the Play Boy mansion in prision.

Cmon and vilify me again Castro and Roathy, But I will proudly say I would be first in line to do it.

Sorry but the the main charge that has been in the public domain and news was he tried to rape a baby. I'm only going by what I've heard seen and read.

and that alone is worthy of life in prison in my book.

Yes I agree but let make the law compatible because murderers get life and get told to serve 8 years up. What is worse and what warrants different punishment?

Not all murders are the same. You cant put them all in the same category, different circumstances come with different murders, thats why you get different minimum term tariffs with the life sentence. i.e a murder of a child or a sexually motivated murder would come with a much stiffer tariff than say a murder which involved two blokes brawling with one pulling out a knife and stabbing the other to death.. People have been convicted of murder without actually being the person who committed the act. The cowbridge road jewellery shop murder that happened in cardiff is a good example. 2 of the people who were convicted of murder "charles frayne" "dallas lee" were getaway drivers, one of them parked up miles from where the actual murder took place, both of them didn't have a clue that what was only supposed to be a smash and grab would turn into a murder and attempted murder. Both of them convicted of murder along with the person who actually committed the act, but both had shorter tariffs put on their life sentence Than the other one. What watkins done deserves the harshest of sentences. Its only by shear luck that child isn't dead, so for me that puts him up there with the likes of april jones killer, and other such scum as him. Watkins should never be released from prison imo

I agree with what you're saying and when I said what I did yesterday it was because I've only read in the press etc on the crime that he was accused for but after reading that link then he truly is a vile man and deserves everything that he gets.

I wasn't trying to defend him in any way shape or form.

If we start public executing people as some people are screaming for, or letting him get killed in prison, then we may aswell give up. We will lose any credibility we ever had.

If you're going to talk about capital punishment, then you be the one to do it. Rather than throw judgements around online about someones life then passing the guilt of killing someone onto some poor person that has to carry it out.

Last time I checked R Kelly got caught pissing on a underage girl. Yet you still listen to his music.

You make it out as if he'll be in the Play Boy mansion in prision.

Cmon and vilify me again Castro and Roathy, But I will proudly say I would be first in line to do it.

What you going on about now then? The only thing you have contributed to this thread in terms of me so far is determining that "it" is now offensive when used to describe a baby.

Someone must tell hallmark cards as the billion pound empires most successfull product is that of cards labelling babies as "it"

Now i dont mind debate and discussion but you are being a knob on a very sensitive subject

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Be much more accurate if it said " He's a Boy" No child is an it.
Child, Baby, Kid, Tot. Theres a few suggestions for you.

Be much more accurate if it said " He's a Boy" No child is an it.
Child, Baby, Kid, Tot. Theres a few suggestions for you.

You call babies after goats then.