Bluebirds Unite Official Statement

Well done,there won't be many fans who can argue with that statement but I am sure there are a few Tan apologists on here will try.

Gotta get a little dig in to cause an arguement.....well done

It's the idiots who made out they were BU followers who caused fans to be against them! But there's always someone who like to shiiite stir for no reason? Like 64!

Wrong Allan. I have never stated that I am a member of the BU. You dont always have to be a member of something to support what they do. As for stirring, my comments were not personal to any individual but it is interesting to note that most posters who did not reply would have nothing to fear by them.

At least I have come out in support of the statement from the BU and have stated that most fans will find little wrong with it. The Tan apologists can try and twist what I say all they want but as stated they can bog off and I will never stop from campaigning for a return to blue.

I'm now embarrassed for you, fella

You would be better off saving your embarrassment for someone like Tan who deserves it the most.

There are a good few Tan apologists on here mind.

Chuckles, what does it take to be a "Tan apologist" in your view??

Genuinely interested, as all I ever see is people who are simply divided between whether the blue issue is a single item to be dealt with or the all-encompassing issue that means nothing else that has been positively achieved over the last four years can count for anything

Exactly what it says on the tin; someone who constantly backs Tan, despite his many crazy decisions at the club.

Someone who won't come out and be critical for his bad decisions.

We've even had members on here suggest new names for The club to keep Tan interested for goodness sake.

I still don't see too many of those who won't come out and be critical of ANY of his decisions (blue in particular) but I whole-heartedly agree on the daftness of suggesting any "change of club name"

There are a good few Tan apologists on here mind.

Chuckles, what does it take to be a "Tan apologist" in your view??

Genuinely interested, as all I ever see is people who are simply divided between whether the blue issue is a single item to be dealt with or the all-encompassing issue that means nothing else that has been positively achieved over the last four years can count for anything

Exactly what it says on the tin; someone who constantly backs Tan, despite his many crazy decisions at the club.

Someone who won't come out and be critical for his bad decisions.

We've even had members on here suggest new names for The club to keep Tan interested for goodness sake.

I still don't see too many of those who won't come out and be critical of ANY of his decisions (blue in particular) but I whole-heartedly agree on the daftness of suggesting any "change of club name"

Be careful Sven that almost sounded like a critisism of Tan himself.

At least I have come out in support of the statement from the BU and have stated that most fans will find little wrong with it. The Tan apologists can try and twist what I say all they want but as stated they can bog off and I will never stop from campaigning for a return to blue.

I'm now embarrassed for you, fella

I can respect the fact that you are single-minded on the "blue' issue and also that it is your personal opinion that the only way forward is to see Vincent Tan leave; although it does shock me that someone who has supported this club for so long can be quite so blinkered given the state the club was in before he arrived

Your continued and unsubstantiated references to "Tan apologists" and how "They can bog off..." etc. not only belittle yourself, but also undo some of the relative 'good' that others (in today's case, BU) do when making clear their very positive positions with regard to their own aims and objectives

You feel compelled to make huge assumptions that there are people out there who do not want a return to blue, which in my experience is very wide of the true mark and I am interested to know when anyone has referred to you as an "anti-Christ"?

Hmmm, perhaps you DO need to 'explain' (assuming you want to give your statements any credibility)

Sven simply because you don't agree with him will mean your a Tan Apologist.
This guy is an assclown of the highest order.
He is unable to debate properly and when posed a genuine question he will say something like "I don't have to answer to you ".

Think everyone can agree that he and a few others are the key reasons why the BU has come under so much scrutiny of late.

Tony, sadly you are correct. Bluebird64 has a PERSONAL agenda that he is determined to push to the fore

No big issue with that; it is, after all, simply his opinion

However, the guy has also personally abused/attacked people on here without foundation and statements such as the ones he made above (and failed to justify when asked by others ) do as much harm to the group he admits he is not a member of and has no affiliation to

Not good for BU, disrespectful to those he "labels" and embarrassing for the man himself

Sven where have I ever said I am a member of the BU? exactly I have not so hang a label on me if it makes you feel better. If anyone has been abusive on this thread it has been shinobiponi yet you seem to totally ignore that fact. Anyway I will agree with you on one thing and that is I do have an agenda and that is wanting us to return to blue. It would also be nice for you to get back on thread rather than engauge in these petty critisisms.

In small words you can understand: READ THE POST PROPERLY

I said (quote): " he admits he is not a member of and has no affiliation to..." so hardly "labelling" is it?

Once again you get it wrong, but try to deflect the facts without reasoned response

As for you comment (quote): "It would also be nice for you to get back on thread rather than engage in these petty criticisms" I think you need to take a look at how YOU were the one that "took away" from a very positive BU thread with your inane and unjustified attack on people you can neither name or quote

I would like nothing better than to concentrate on the 'thread' and (despite not being a member/supporter of BU) I am capable of being 'big' enough to say when I believe they have got something right, i.e. the opening post in this thread

You might be intransigent, fella, but it does you little credit; particularly when you come back with untruths

I still don't see too many of those who won't come out and be critical of ANY of his decisions (blue in particular) but I whole-heartedly agree on the daftness of suggesting any "change of club name"

Maybe you don't, but I do. There's quite a few on here that simply refuse to ever criticise Tan & try to justify every one of his daft ideas.

The strange thing Sven is that my original post supported the BU statement which positively contributed to the thread and my observation that it might not be supported by Tan apologists is a fair comment in my opinion.I did not seek to target any individual yet there started a raft of critisism which I am fine with by the way. I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story.

I still don't see too many of those who won't come out and be critical of ANY of his decisions (blue in particular) but I whole-heartedly agree on the daftness of suggesting any "change of club name"

Maybe you don't, but I do. There's quite a few on here that simply refuse to ever criticise Tan & try to justify every one of his daft ideas.

Still don't see too much of that; just people who think 'differently' to others but still support the club whilst wanting blue to return

All a matter of opinion and that is fine, so long as it is based on what is really happening and not what goes on in certain overactive minds

The strange thing Sven is that my original post supported the BU statement which positively contributed to the thread and my observation that it might not be supported by Tan apologists is a fair comment in my opinion.I did not seek to target any individual yet there started a raft of critisism which I am fine with by the way. I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story.

Not strange really

No one 'had a go' at you for anything other than your "Tan apologist" and "bog off" comments (which you have STILL yet to justify satisfactorily or apologise for) so yet another instance where you are truing to "worm out" of a response to the real issues raised, whilst having a detrimental affect on the VERY POSITIVE message BU sent luton this occasion

Your comment (quote) "I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story" beggars belief and if you genuinely believe that to be true, I am afraid you are more deluded and desperate for signs of support than I had originally thought

I'm not going to get into any more sets of "Ping Pong" with you today. I have made my position/thoughts on your exceptionally poor and detrimental comments clear and you have constantly FAILED to respond with any maturity and/or justification. I find that sad, as it means you can never be happy with what has/is being achieved at our great club (blue apart, of course)

Only my opinion, of course, but one I believe to be correct

The strange thing Sven is that my original post supported the BU statement which positively contributed to the thread and my observation that it might not be supported by Tan apologists is a fair comment in my opinion.I did not seek to target any individual yet there started a raft of critisism which I am fine with by the way. I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story.

Not strange really

No one 'had a go' at you for anything other than your "Tan apologist" and "bog off" comments (which you have STILL yet to justify satisfactorily or apologise for) so yet another instance where you are truing to "worm out" of a response to the real issues raised, whilst having a detrimental affect on the VERY POSITIVE message BU sent luton this occasion

Your comment (quote) "I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story" beggars belief and if you genuinely believe that to be true, I am afraid you are more deluded and desperate for signs of support than I had originally thought

I'm not going to get into any more sets of "Ping Pong" with you today. I have made my position/thoughts on your exceptionally poor and detrimental comments clear and you have constantly FAILED to respond with any maturity and/or justification. I find that sad, as it means you can never be happy with what has/is being achieved at our great club (blue apart, of course)

Only my opinion, of course, but one I believe to be correct

Its called opinion Sven and this is a messageboard, get over yourself

The strange thing Sven is that my original post supported the BU statement which positively contributed to the thread and my observation that it might not be supported by Tan apologists is a fair comment in my opinion.I did not seek to target any individual yet there started a raft of critisism which I am fine with by the way. I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story.

Not strange really

No one 'had a go' at you for anything other than your "Tan apologist" and "bog off" comments (which you have STILL yet to justify satisfactorily or apologise for) so yet another instance where you are truing to "worm out" of a response to the real issues raised, whilst having a detrimental affect on the VERY POSITIVE message BU sent luton this occasion

Your comment (quote) "I can only say that those not threatened by my comments would not have replied so that tells its own story" beggars belief and if you genuinely believe that to be true, I am afraid you are more deluded and desperate for signs of support than I had originally thought

I'm not going to get into any more sets of "Ping Pong" with you today. I have made my position/thoughts on your exceptionally poor and detrimental comments clear and you have constantly FAILED to respond with any maturity and/or justification. I find that sad, as it means you can never be happy with what has/is being achieved at our great club (blue apart, of course)

Only my opinion, of course, but one I believe to be correct

Its called opinion Sven and this is a messageboard, get over yourself

OK, I relent straight away...

Get over myself?? You absolute beauty!!

It is indeed a message board, but it still doesn't give you the right to tell lies and then twist peoples words to your own end when they catch you out, does it?

For someone approaching 50 years of age, you have a very narrow view of the world

Still don't see too much of that; just people who think 'differently' to others but still support the club whilst wanting blue to return

All a matter of opinion and that is fine, so long as it is based on what is really happening and not what goes on in certain overactive minds

As I said, there's plenty of it that goes on - many who refuse to ever criticise tan and even try to justify some of the lunatics decisions.

That's what a Tan apologist is.

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

All I will say on this, as I have always stated.
Wearing BLUE in our Stadium and singing the songs in our stadium, in my opinion is the best protest of all. Tan can see it and the world can see it

Turn up watch the match,Support our team, cheer them on, they need us as the 12th man and wear your BLUE

Annis, we should be supporting the team during the game not making points to TAN!

Nat,
Thousands and thousands sang the Malky song today and our Blue song Nat and our team love it,Malky loves and we love it

Hope so!

Nat honestly I speak to a few of the players, they love it that we still love our identity and sing about it, they actually respect us more.
There are fans out there on FB moaning about our identity, yet all they do is sit in the pubs drinking and moaning about it. They should get down the City if they care that much, wear their BLUE and sing their hearts out.

Fair enough. The stuff on the BU website shop is still shocking though. Was it removed after my complaint the other day?

Natman, I am nothing to do with the BU organisation. I post on there now and again and thats it, I just wish we were all as one wanting our Identity back

Someone had posted pictures from their shop on here and I felt they cruised the line so reported them. Slogans such as "my uzi waitsfor tan"

Ahhh So was it you who reported me? Why so? I only posted the image/t-shirt of what THEY are selling in their shops! I also find that particular tshirt is revolting but just trying to state that's not on!

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


I particularly love it when they say "but we are a Premier league side and much more attractive to buyers"
Just like Leeds and Portsmouth were

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

The Walker estate thought they were leaving Blackburn in good hands with the Venky's.

Liverpool (cant remember family name) thought they were leaving them in good hands with Hicks and Gillett.

They turned out well. You never know the intentions of a new owner until its too late. Sometimes, with all we are getting at present (new training ground, stadium expansion) its better the devil you know.

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

So you believe Tan when it suits

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

So you believe Tan when it suits

You don't believe Tan on this one then?

Personally, I don't trust Tan - but it's funny watching Tan apologists his every word... Except that one.

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

So you believe Tan when it suits

Check mate, fella!

as you said, rather selective with his Tan views

Bluebird64 also quoted "Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem"

Jeez Same world, different planet, I'm afraid

What's all this check mate bollocks Sven I didn't realise this was a game to score points. Anyway my point is that Tan originally gave the commitment that he would have left us in good shape yet it would appear that none of the pro Tan fans chose to take him at his word why?

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

So you believe Tan when it suits

You don't believe Tan on this one then?

Personally, I don't trust Tan - but it's funny watching Tan apologists his every word... Except that one.

I do not trust him either but he went on record stating he would have left us in good shape if we rejected the rebrand and I thought it would have been a risk worth taking. For some reason some fans managed to turn this around into meaning administration. If Tan was to be believed then at least we could have got shot of him with a safety blanket of a promise which is more than the Hull fans have at present.

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

So you believe Tan when it suits

You don't believe Tan on this one then?

Personally, I don't trust Tan - but it's funny watching Tan apologists his every word... Except that one.

I do not trust him either but he went on record stating he would have left us in good shape if we rejected the rebrand and I thought it would have been a risk worth taking. For some reason some fans managed to turn this around into meaning administration. If Tan was to be believed then at least we could have got shot of him with a safety blanket of a promise which is more than the Hull fans have at present.

So as he said that and you believed him, do you believe when he says he will convert our debt into equity?

Any fan who wants a return to blue should cut bluebirds unite a bit of slack.

Not much red visible today and a rendition of always be blue......... That's the way to do it

Coats on that's why. I hate the red and was disgusted to see the amount of red there start of the season.

Let's not kid ourselves, it's about 60-40 in favour of blue.

You're arguing about something he's probably moved on from along time ago.

Since Barry and 64 are quite happy to brand and label fans as "Tan Apologists" can either of them provide one post or bit of documentation where a poster on this forum or Cardiff City fan in general has apologised for Vincent Tans actions?

Since Barry and 64 are quite happy to brand and label fans as "Tan Apologists" can either of them provide one post or bit of documentation where a poster on this forum or Cardiff City fan in general has apologised for Vincent Tans actions?

There are plenty of a Tan apologists here, it's a saying - don't take it so literally. They defend the indefensible. I gave an example earlier of a member suggesting new names for the club to keep Tan sweet... That's a tan apologist.

So much for being on ignore.

Since Barry and 64 are quite happy to brand and label fans as "Tan Apologists" can either of them provide one post or bit of documentation where a poster on this forum or Cardiff City fan in general has apologised for Vincent Tans actions?

Can you provide 1 post where I have called you a Tan apologist?

It is better to have even a narrow view of the world compared to having one's head in the sand and having no view at all.

Yet Wanting Tan out, with the hope that someone else comes along isn't having your head in the sand at all is it?


Don't need to worry about someone else coming in as this was never a problem. Tan has already assured us that he would bring in new investors and would leave us in a good position or have you conveniently forgot that he made that promise.I hope you are not suggesting that Tans promises cannot be trusted

So you believe Tan when it suits

You don't believe Tan on this one then?

Personally, I don't trust Tan - but it's funny watching Tan apologists his every word... Except that one.

I do not trust him either but he went on record stating he would have left us in good shape if we rejected the rebrand and I thought it would have been a risk worth taking. For some reason some fans managed to turn this around into meaning administration. If Tan was to be believed then at least we could have got shot of him with a safety blanket of a promise which is more than the Hull fans have at present.

So as he said that and you believed him, do you believe when he says he will convert our debt into equity?

I never said that I believed him but it was worth the risk in rejecting the rebrand on the promise that he would have left us in a good state.

All I will say on this, as I have always stated.
Wearing BLUE in our Stadium and singing the songs in our stadium, in my opinion is the best protest of all. Tan can see it and the world can see it

Turn up watch the match,Support our team, cheer them on, they need us as the 12th man and wear your BLUE

Annis, we should be supporting the team during the game not making points to TAN!

Nat,
Thousands and thousands sang the Malky song today and our Blue song Nat and our team love it,Malky loves and we love it

Hope so!

Nat honestly I speak to a few of the players, they love it that we still love our identity and sing about it, they actually respect us more.
There are fans out there on FB moaning about our identity, yet all they do is sit in the pubs drinking and moaning about it. They should get down the City if they care that much, wear their BLUE and sing their hearts out.

Fair enough. The stuff on the BU website shop is still shocking though. Was it removed after my complaint the other day?

Natman, I am nothing to do with the BU organisation. I post on there now and again and thats it, I just wish we were all as one wanting our Identity back

Someone had posted pictures from their shop on here and I felt they cruised the line so reported them. Slogans such as "my uzi waitsfor tan"

Ahhh So was it you who reported me? Why so? I only posted the image/t-shirt of what THEY are selling in their shops! I also find that particular tshirt is revolting but just trying to state that's not on!

It was me. Sorry I found your post a bit confusing, lots going on so it could just the way I read it. Like you I find it revolting so just asked for it to be removed anyway to be on the safe side. Apologies for the misunderstanding, glad we're on the same page!