FAO Sian Branson / Jon Candy

Good post

I'll be honest, you really are starting to get me down.

I don't understand your motivation. You are spending time and effort to try and undermine those who are standing up for our clubs identity.

It is unbelievable, totally unbelievable what Tan has done to us. Some good, some bad, but the rebrand is awful, absolutely awful.

Our bluebird relegated to an afterthought, the colours gone and disrespected..slowly being eradicated.

The owner laughs at us time and time again.

The march on sunday is not a Tan In/Out march. Stop making it into one..it's pathetic, it's slanderous, it's depressing.

Honestly, I'm getting close to giving up on this all. It's won't be Tan that kills it for me, it will be my fellow supporters.

Shameful.

If you aren't going on the march then that is up to you, I respect that, but the mudslinging, the slagging off of passionate fans is pathetic and depressing.

I thought we all had pride in our colours. The truth is far from it.

Sad occasion. Unfortunately, for me, it never got better than that bittersweet day at Wembley against Liverpool. A sad day, but we were united and proud.

Spot on.

I also find the continued denial about the significance of the club's traditional identity very sad.

Yes they are annoying. They claim they would prefer blue but do not contribute anything positive to blue cause. They are however very quick to slag off when some of their fellow fans are proavtive.

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

I'll be honest, you really are starting to get me down.

I don't understand your motivation. You are spending time and effort to try and undermine those who are standing up for our clubs identity.

It is unbelievable, totally unbelievable what Tan has done to us. Some good, some bad, but the rebrand is awful, absolutely awful.

Our bluebird relegated to an afterthought, the colours gone and disrespected..slowly being eradicated.

The owner laughs at us time and time again.

The march on sunday is not a Tan In/Out march. Stop making it into one..it's pathetic, it's slanderous, it's depressing.

Honestly, I'm getting close to giving up on this all. It's won't be Tan that kills it for me, it will be my fellow supporters.

Shameful.

If you aren't going on the march then that is up to you, I respect that, but the mudslinging, the slagging off of passionate fans is pathetic and depressing.

I thought we all had pride in our colours. The truth is far from it.

Sad occasion. Unfortunately, for me, it never got better than that bittersweet day at Wembley against Liverpool. A sad day, but we were united and proud.

Spot on.

I also find the continued denial about the significance of the club's traditional identity very sad.

Yes some like wez 1927 who with a name like that you would think he would cherish our history and traditons yet his posts indicate nothing of the sort.

Can you say as BU committee members If the BU are happy to have Tan own Cardiff City as long as he changes us back to Blue, or do the BU want him out of Cardiff City. There is so much being said at the moment I'm sure lots of fans would like to know what the BU stance is on this

Personally, I believe Tan has done many good things for the club, and certainly a few months ago I would have said a change back to blue and reinstating the badge would have gone a long way to winning me back over.

However as time as gone on the more stories that come out about interferring with the actual football side of things, such as the replacement of Moody with the 23 year old friend of the family, the suggestions of substitutions to Malky, going into the dressing room at half time etc, etc then the more I lean towards wanting Tan out. Also who knows what further stories haven't come out yet!

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this is a 'fluid' situation, we are still waiting for the debt to be converted to share equity as well, but certainly at this moment in time, I personally am leaning towards Tan out.

This really should not be about personal opinions as we would never all agree on absolutely everything, there will always be vary degrees of opinion across the group and all we can do is try and reflect the general concensus of those opinions.

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

Thats the trouble Dylan they just want to watch their club in premier heaven and dont give a toss about our name or heritage.

Well why are the BU supposed to be in charge of finding a buyer? First step is for Tan to put us on the market, then we will see potential buyers step forward. Until he does that we will never know. The BU will assist in anyway it can for the removal of Tan and his vile cronies.

In the real world if you are responsible for someone leaving you have a plan to replace that person you don't just sack them willy nilly

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

I do not speak for anyone but myself and it is obvious that if its the owner who is solely responsible for denying us the chance to go back to blue then there is little alternative but to demonstrate against him. Unfortunately the issue of back to blue and Tan out have to go hand in hand. There may be a way forward if he were to compromise but until he does then he will remain a despised character by a fair proportion of our fan base.

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

it defo goes both ways the mud slinging ,fair enough protest cardiff kid and it s your right to do so but most so called pro bu fans are mocking people like me who have excepted the rebrand in return for financial security of our club

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

I don't get it, return to blue, now wanting tan out ? Think it needs to be organised properly, by people who just want the return to blue. I want to go back to blue but won't support anything connected with wanting Tan out, makes you wonder if there a few jacks getting amongst them as they would love Tan to leave us.

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

why would i support the cause ? i dont care about what colour we play in dont you get it ??? my idea of history and identity is different to yours but you still mock

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

why would i support the cause ? i dont care about what colour we play in dont you get it ??? my idea of history and identity is different to yours but you still mock

Time for you to remove the 1927 in shame then. Perhaps something more fitting like Wez likes modern football or perhaps inserting a date in your username to coincide with when Tan took over.

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

it defo goes both ways the mud slinging ,fair enough protest cardiff kid and it s your right to do so but most so called pro bu fans are mocking people like me who have excepted the rebrand in return for financial security of our club

No they mock you because the excuse of financial stability can no longer be used to justify keeping us a crappy red colour. So perhaps you will now indicate how you intend to support the blue cause.

Yeah John Candy approved it himself.

Seems like they're promoting the idea with heads in the sand.

Tan needs educated,not ousted.

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

why would i support the cause ? i dont care about what colour we play in dont you get it ??? my idea of history and identity is different to yours but you still mock

Time for you to remove the 1927 in shame then. Perhaps something more fitting like Wez likes modern football or perhaps inserting a date in your username to coincide with when Tan took over.

i was right your are a tosser see still mocking cause ive got a different view to you we had a dragon on our shirt in 1927 and have since on most different versions of our badge since ,if you really dont like modern football or cardiff city than simple f**k off btw been on this forum and cardiff city .com as wez1927 since they both born

Yeah John Candy approved it himself.

Seems like they're promoting the idea with heads in the sand.

Tan needs educated,not ousted.

Those running BU are fully entitled to hold their own views on Vincent Tan.

Ideally, yes "Tan needs to be educated" but unfortunately Tan is such an arrogant fool surrounded by sycophants who only ever tell him what he wants to hear, that "educating" him looks to be a forlorn hope.

A call for 'Tan Out,' as far as I'm concerned is a call for him to sell up.

A call for him to sell up a PL club with bags of potential and set in a huge catchment area.

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

why would i support the cause ? i dont care about what colour we play in dont you get it ??? my idea of history and identity is different to yours but you still mock

Time for you to remove the 1927 in shame then. Perhaps something more fitting like Wez likes modern football or perhaps inserting a date in your username to coincide with when Tan took over.

i was right your are a tosser see still mocking cause ive got a different view to you we had a dragon on our shirt in 1927 and have since on most different versions of our badge since ,if you really dont like modern football or cardiff city than simple f**k off btw been on this forum and cardiff city .com as wez1927 since they both born

Ha nice try wez. If you understood our history then you would realise that trying to justify us having a dragon now because we had one in 1927 is a rather foolish argument. The dragon on the 1927 badge has nothing to do with the welsh dragon or Tans dragon as our 1927 dragon upheld a standard upon which is emblazoned the bearing of three silver chevrons upon a red background they are attributed to Iestin ap Gwrgan, the last prince of Glamorgan, who lived in Cardiff Castle about 1030-1080.This badge was also the crest of the City therefore was seen apt for the Cardiff badge as having direct links to the City.Tans pathetic dragon has no such links to our 1927 badge, our heritage or the city.

Yeah John Candy approved it himself.

Seems like they're promoting the idea with heads in the sand.

Tan needs educated,not ousted.

Those running BU are fully entitled to hold their own views on Vincent Tan.

Ideally, yes "Tan needs to be educated" but unfortunately Tan is such an arrogant fool surrounded by sycophants who only ever tell him what he wants to hear, that "educating" him looks to be a forlorn hope.

A call for 'Tan Out,' as far as I'm concerned is a call for him to sell up.

A call for him to sell up a PL club with bags of potential and set in a huge catchment area.

So if/when he sells up, new owners still want red then what then? No a call for Tan out is total nonsense in my opinion, all fir the back to blue chants but won't get involved with Bu whilst some are calling for Tan out .I also don't/ won't ridicule anyone who has accepted the rebrand.

What about the abuse some of the non supporting BU/KCB or other protests have had?
If you don't support them, then you've sold your soul. You get called a redbird and are enemies to some of those who support BU. Do I need to remind you of the Blackburn "protest" last season?

I have no problems with these sort of groups because they did fight for the right reason (get blue back) now they want Tan out which I will not support.

The abuse goes back and forth between both non supporting BU etc and BU members so don't play the victim.

Didn't have a problem with BU but it is just how they are run.

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

it defo goes both ways the mud slinging ,fair enough protest cardiff kid and it s your right to do so but most so called pro bu fans are mocking people like me who have excepted the rebrand in return for financial security of our club

No they mock you because the excuse of financial stability can no longer be used to justify keeping us a crappy red colour. So perhaps you will now indicate how you intend to support the blue cause.

Your getting boring now ,I've answered you in other threads troll someone else tosser

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

it defo goes both ways the mud slinging ,fair enough protest cardiff kid and it s your right to do so but most so called pro bu fans are mocking people like me who have excepted the rebrand in return for financial security of our club

No they mock you because the excuse of financial stability can no longer be used to justify keeping us a crappy red colour. So perhaps you will now indicate how you intend to support the blue cause.

Your getting boring now ,I've answered you in other threads troll someone else tosser

Thats it Wez keep up the abuse, mind you its only on the keyboard so I wont take it to heart.

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

why would i support the cause ? i dont care about what colour we play in dont you get it ??? my idea of history and identity is different to yours but you still mock

Time for you to remove the 1927 in shame then. Perhaps something more fitting like Wez likes modern football or perhaps inserting a date in your username to coincide with when Tan took over.

i was right your are a tosser see still mocking cause ive got a different view to you we had a dragon on our shirt in 1927 and have since on most different versions of our badge since ,if you really dont like modern football or cardiff city than simple f**k off btw been on this forum and cardiff city .com as wez1927 since they both born

Ha nice try wez. If you understood our history then you would realise that trying to justify us having a dragon now because we had one in 1927 is a rather foolish argument. The dragon on the 1927 badge has nothing to do with the welsh dragon or Tans dragon as our 1927 dragon upheld a standard upon which is emblazoned the bearing of three silver chevrons upon a red background they are attributed to Iestin ap Gwrgan, the last prince of Glamorgan, who lived in Cardiff Castle about 1030-1080.This badge was also the crest of the City therefore was seen apt for the Cardiff badge as having direct links to the City.Tans pathetic dragon has no such links to our 1927 badge, our heritage or the city.

You copied that off Wikipedia lol

Yeah John Candy approved it himself.

Seems like they're promoting the idea with heads in the sand.

Tan needs educated,not ousted.

Those running BU are fully entitled to hold their own views on Vincent Tan.

Ideally, yes "Tan needs to be educated" but unfortunately Tan is such an arrogant fool surrounded by sycophants who only ever tell him what he wants to hear, that "educating" him looks to be a forlorn hope.

A call for 'Tan Out,' as far as I'm concerned is a call for him to sell up.

A call for him to sell up a PL club with bags of potential and set in a huge catchment area.

So if/when he sells up, new owners still want red then what then? No a call for Tan out is total nonsense in my opinion, all fir the back to blue chants but won't get involved with Bu whilst some are calling for Tan out .I also don't/ won't ridicule anyone who has accepted the rebrand.

Sunday's march is to protest against the rebrand and a call for more consultation (to date, Tan has refused to meet even the democratically elected CCST board) on major changes that affect the football club. It has never been officially billed by BU as a 'Tan Out' march. I'm not doubting that there will be fans present on the march who will call for Tan to leave and sell up. It's a free country and as long as none of the chants break the law by being offensive, then there is not an awful lot that the organisers can do. The same applies to 'Tan Out' chants in bars around Cardiff and in CCS itself.

So what is plan B when Tan goes I'm assuming that BU has someone lined up to take over

You will not get an answer from some on here as they havnt got a business brain cell between then

Instead of sniping and mocking another group of Cardiff fans how about you do something about the rebrand and get involved?

because i dont agree with you simple really cardiff in the premier league has been a dream of mine for 30 years tan has delivered on that and has done may great things for our club ,paying off bills,getting rid of pmg and other hangers on ,starting stadium expansion ,new training ground and giving malky the cash to get top class players can you see those things or are you to blinded by the colour change ??????

Wez but what have you actively done to help us get back to blue and support the cause.

why would i support the cause ? i dont care about what colour we play in dont you get it ??? my idea of history and identity is different to yours but you still mock

Time for you to remove the 1927 in shame then. Perhaps something more fitting like Wez likes modern football or perhaps inserting a date in your username to coincide with when Tan took over.

i was right your are a tosser see still mocking cause ive got a different view to you we had a dragon on our shirt in 1927 and have since on most different versions of our badge since ,if you really dont like modern football or cardiff city than simple f**k off btw been on this forum and cardiff city .com as wez1927 since they both born

Ha nice try wez. If you understood our history then you would realise that trying to justify us having a dragon now because we had one in 1927 is a rather foolish argument. The dragon on the 1927 badge has nothing to do with the welsh dragon or Tans dragon as our 1927 dragon upheld a standard upon which is emblazoned the bearing of three silver chevrons upon a red background they are attributed to Iestin ap Gwrgan, the last prince of Glamorgan, who lived in Cardiff Castle about 1030-1080.This badge was also the crest of the City therefore was seen apt for the Cardiff badge as having direct links to the City.Tans pathetic dragon has no such links to our 1927 badge, our heritage or the city.

You copied that off Wikipedia lol

Wrong again wez. But it shows that your argument about trying to justify Tans dragon was stupid.

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

it defo goes both ways the mud slinging ,fair enough protest cardiff kid and it s your right to do so but most so called pro bu fans are mocking people like me who have excepted the rebrand in return for financial security of our club

No they mock you because the excuse of financial stability can no longer be used to justify keeping us a crappy red colour. So perhaps you will now indicate how you intend to support the blue cause.

Your getting boring now ,I've answered you in other threads troll someone else tosser

Thats it Wez keep up the abuse, mind you its only on the keyboard so I wont take it to heart.

Boring ,keyboard warrior

Can't you see that this mud slagging as you call it works both ways and that certain things said about the fans who just want to watch their club play have got their backs up. How do you expect these fans to support BU after this all it's done is turn them against BU

It probably does go both ways, but on here, in recent weeks those slagging off the pro-blues have been far more vocal, and honest to god, it does depress me. I don't understand them.

I won't name names. I respect their opinion to embrace the rebrand, but the lies and mudslinging about those who are defending our colours is outrageous in my opinion.

it defo goes both ways the mud slinging ,fair enough protest cardiff kid and it s your right to do so but most so called pro bu fans are mocking people like me who have excepted the rebrand in return for financial security of our club

No they mock you because the excuse of financial stability can no longer be used to justify keeping us a crappy red colour. So perhaps you will now indicate how you intend to support the blue cause.

Your getting boring now ,I've answered you in other threads troll someone else tosser

Thats it Wez keep up the abuse, mind you its only on the keyboard so I wont take it to heart.

Boring ,keyboard warrior

Yes thats what I said of you wasn't it but in a more polite way may I add.

Think BU should distance themselves from the Tan out