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Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:14 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Cardiff kid against Man City I came out of central and saw the march start so I thought fook it and joined in. Yes people were clapping as we went along, and also wanted to slap that guy in Canton that was shouting we aint Cardiff City we are the Cardiff. But the more marches you have the amount attending will drop.
I must ask why wasnt Sian at the sit in ? instead sat in the pub !! I maybe wrong on that but im sure you will put me right if I am.

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She is not a ST and most likely could not get a ticket.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:14 pm

Time for City fans that genuinely want blue back to bury their differences.

As Chuckles wrote in his post, fans have got to stop looking for the "perfect protest," because, understandably, we all have different ideas of what "perfect" looks like. BU are the only show in town. If Bluebirds Unite are killed by a mix of apathy and internal backbiting then I think that will be the end of things as regards meaningful protest. I can't honestly see anyone else wanting to step into the breach and why would they? BU have encountered far too much shit and aggro - sadly, pretty much all of it from fellow Cardiff City supporters!

For what it's worth, i don't think that those running BU are in it for vanity purposes at all. Sian, quite rightly, in my opinion, is simply trying to maximise the exposure that the protest group receive. The fact that BU have a female leader who speaks from the heart is a real positive, as far as I am concerned. Understandably the media are going to be interested.

For those who wish to see BU fail...be very careful what you wish for :thumbup:

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:15 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are. :roll:


I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here..


Kid your wasting your time with Dando on this subject. If BU marched every game the response from him would be on the lines of supporters will only get bored of marches or these marchers are an inconvenience because I have to walk around them or the colour of their blue shirts hurts my eyes.

Mind you it not just Dando but a few others who come under that category.


I am being honest and genuine, I would have a lot more time for them and respect if they marched every game instead of waiting for the big games, shows how driven they are.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:18 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Cardiff kid against Man City I came out of central and saw the march start so I thought fook it and joined in. Yes people were clapping as we went along, and also wanted to slap that guy in Canton that was shouting we aint Cardiff City we are the Cardiff. But the more marches you have the amount attending will drop.
I must ask why wasnt Sian at the sit in ? instead sat in the pub !! I maybe wrong on that but im sure you will put me right if I am.

I


She's boycotting, which in my opinion is her business. Some boycott, some don't. It's a personal thing and I don't get involved or care what people choose to do. For me, Bluebirds Unite are doing a great job and plenty-the vast majority-go to games.

My advice..dont' focus on the individuals. Focus on their main goal, and work towards it.

As for the amount of marches, I think the Man City game, Man Utd game and perhaps one more later in the season and maybe a final one for the last game is the right ratio..

I agree, you can do too many, and you can do too few.

Dando, if you ever cease to be a keyboard warrier and fight for what you believe in from your feet instead of your bum, then you may have the pleasure of realising that these marches require road closures and police permission. It would have no affect to do them every week (which you may love perhaps?!) and also wouldn't be allowed.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:19 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are. :roll:


I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here..


Kid your wasting your time with Dando on this subject. If BU marched every game the response from him would be on the lines of supporters will only get bored of marches or these marchers are an inconvenience because I have to walk around them or the colour of their blue shirts hurts my eyes.

Mind you it not just Dando but a few others who come under that category.


I am being honest and genuine, I would have a lot more time for them and respect if they marched every game instead of waiting for the big games, shows how driven they are.


I would get bored of them.

When you oppose or demonstrate you have to vary your events. Doing the same thing only wears thin on people regardless how much they believe they are right.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:20 pm

Don't give Dando any attention, he just disagrees with people for bites. :roll: He's in the Hull City thread saying that they should be grateful as Hull Tigers is better than Hull City. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:21 pm

Egomaniacs, sadly more about becoming fan leaders and representatives than turning us back to blue.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:21 pm

I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:21 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are. :roll:


I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here..


Kid your wasting your time with Dando on this subject. If BU marched every game the response from him would be on the lines of supporters will only get bored of marches or these marchers are an inconvenience because I have to walk around them or the colour of their blue shirts hurts my eyes.

Mind you it not just Dando but a few others who come under that category.


I am being honest and genuine, I would have a lot more time for them and respect if they marched every game instead of waiting for the big games, shows how driven they are.


I would get bored of them.

When you oppose or demonstrate you have to vary your events. Doing the same thing only wears thin on people regardless how much they believe they are right.


No-one will really take interest in them if they do few marches and just think they are not passionate or driven enough in what they are against.

I think the BU are great group but if the only going to do few marches they might as well as scrap the group.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:24 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are. :roll:



Their first march was against City which was our first home game in the top division for 50 years. The eye was on Cardiff so they did the march because of the exposure they would get.

Now, they are doing it against United which whenever United play the eye is on them. Thus meaning that the march would yet again get good exposure.

Marching every other week would get tedious and they wouldn't get the same expsoure against marching before Newcastle etc. I am not a support of BU but get some perspective.
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Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:24 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Cardiff Kid Bluebirds Unite is an excellent idea and started of so well. But I feel now its more about individuals and not about the cause.
Also its about Cardiff City, its about getting our blue back. Its about our badge our nickname. Its about our whole history which feels like it is being erased. Not to antagonise it was started as a celebration of our history and im gonna sound hypocritical here as I started calling fans sell outs and sold our souls and in many ways us as fans have for the price of success.But the t shirts with sould your souls has turned fans away. And the against modern football which confuses the fook out of me.
My belief has always been to persude the fans to ditch the red and wear blue at games as this is the visual effect that will remind everyone that Cardiff City are blue.


Nuclear Blue, it is absolutely NOT about personalities. I think that is a really unkind thing to say. Of course, Sian Branson is now better known, but thats because Bluebirds Unite are in the media. Do you want Bluebirds Unite to get media attention, but the group founder to turn up in a balaclava called Mrs X? It is NOT about personalities, I really don't think you can say that.

Against Modern Football, Sold your soul, Tan Out..these aren't on Official B.U press releases, it's stuff that other pro-blues choose to wear. Bluebirds Unite has getting on for 4,000 members on Facebook alone. That's 4,000 different opinions on things. They are no more responsible for someone shouting 'Tan Out' than Annis is responsible for someone doing the same on here.

I agree with you..we need to convince fans to ditch the red and wear blue, but the marches, the sit ins, the media interviews, the billboards, the songs, the individuals wearing blue with or without bluebirds unites influence is doing that.

As said, Bluebirds Unite will never be all things to all men. That is a total impossibility, but I ask you, as a pro-blue, why spend your energy slagging them off and undermining them? I'd urge you to overlook any differences (as I do) and focus on the overwhelming positive, which is to fight for a return to blue.

Let's stay United in Blue, not divided in Red. As city fans we WILL win this, and Bluebirds Unite are helping big time and I am so thankful that they are here.

Bu have had t shirts printed with don't have to sell my soul on and are selling them,and Sian Branson was pictured in oner signs with a soul seller banner that they make for Bu.So kid don't make out it's nothing to do with them.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:26 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are. :roll:



Their first march was against City which was our first home game in the top division for 50 years. The eye was on Cardiff so they did the march because of the exposure they would get.

Now, they are doing it against United which whenever United play the eye is on them. Thus meaning that the march would yet again get good exposure.

Marching every other week would get tedious and they wouldn't get the same expsoure against marching before Newcastle etc. I am not a support of BU but get some perspective.


I know why they are picking them matches to do the marches but if they were really serious they would attempt to do it every home game.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:26 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Egomaniacs, sadly more about becoming fan leaders and representatives than turning us back to blue.


Total lie. To say such a dramatic and sensational thing shows you to be something of an egomaniac witha 'look at me' post.

To be fair, I haven't read a single pro blue comment from you in many months, so it's clearly something you want to moan about while doing nothing rather than talk sensibly about it.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:27 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Egomaniacs, sadly more about becoming fan leaders and representatives than turning us back to blue.


Total lie. To say such a dramatic and sensational thing shows you to be something of an egomaniac witha 'look at me' post.

To be fair, I haven't read a single pro blue comment from you in many months, so it's clearly something you want to moan about while doing nothing rather than talk sensibly about it.


In a way I can see where he is coming from, the way some of them come across you can't blame him for having that opinion.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:28 pm

Road Runner BeepBeep wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Cardiff Kid Bluebirds Unite is an excellent idea and started of so well. But I feel now its more about individuals and not about the cause.
Also its about Cardiff City, its about getting our blue back. Its about our badge our nickname. Its about our whole history which feels like it is being erased. Not to antagonise it was started as a celebration of our history and im gonna sound hypocritical here as I started calling fans sell outs and sold our souls and in many ways us as fans have for the price of success.But the t shirts with sould your souls has turned fans away. And the against modern football which confuses the fook out of me.
My belief has always been to persude the fans to ditch the red and wear blue at games as this is the visual effect that will remind everyone that Cardiff City are blue.


Nuclear Blue, it is absolutely NOT about personalities. I think that is a really unkind thing to say. Of course, Sian Branson is now better known, but thats because Bluebirds Unite are in the media. Do you want Bluebirds Unite to get media attention, but the group founder to turn up in a balaclava called Mrs X? It is NOT about personalities, I really don't think you can say that.

Against Modern Football, Sold your soul, Tan Out..these aren't on Official B.U press releases, it's stuff that other pro-blues choose to wear. Bluebirds Unite has getting on for 4,000 members on Facebook alone. That's 4,000 different opinions on things. They are no more responsible for someone shouting 'Tan Out' than Annis is responsible for someone doing the same on here.

I agree with you..we need to convince fans to ditch the red and wear blue, but the marches, the sit ins, the media interviews, the billboards, the songs, the individuals wearing blue with or without bluebirds unites influence is doing that.

As said, Bluebirds Unite will never be all things to all men. That is a total impossibility, but I ask you, as a pro-blue, why spend your energy slagging them off and undermining them? I'd urge you to overlook any differences (as I do) and focus on the overwhelming positive, which is to fight for a return to blue.

Let's stay United in Blue, not divided in Red. As city fans we WILL win this, and Bluebirds Unite are helping big time and I am so thankful that they are here.

Bu have had t shirts printed with don't have to sell my soul on and are selling them,and Sian Branson was pictured in oner signs with a soul seller banner that they make for Bu.So kid don't make out it's nothing to do with them.


Mate, I don't care if it is to do with them. The point is, it's never a part of their press releases or interviews or aims.

If you want to pick holes in everything then go ahead, but don't cry when the club stays in red.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:29 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are. :roll:



Their first march was against City which was our first home game in the top division for 50 years. The eye was on Cardiff so they did the march because of the exposure they would get.

Now, they are doing it against United which whenever United play the eye is on them. Thus meaning that the march would yet again get good exposure.

Marching every other week would get tedious and they wouldn't get the same expsoure against marching before Newcastle etc. I am not a support of BU but get some perspective.


I know why they are picking them matches to do the marches but if they were really serious they would attempt to do it every home game.



Why? It wouldn't get widespread attention that they want. The more that march the more attention that they get. As I said, people would get bored marching every other week so the numbers would drop and people wouldn't take it as serious.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:29 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.


I agree with you on this mate, but they'll never raise the cash for it, while people are making threads on messageboards slagging them off.

No group is perfect, but we all have a responsibility to see the bigger picture in my opinion. Same in religion or politics or relationships.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:33 pm

Calling people soul sellers its out of order,they lost a lot of support for that.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:41 pm

Road Runner BeepBeep wrote:Calling people soul sellers its out of order,they lost a lot of support for that.


Can you find a link where they said it?

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:41 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.


I agree with you on this mate, but they'll never raise the cash for it, while people are making threads on messageboards slagging them off.

No group is perfect, but we all have a responsibility to see the bigger picture in my opinion. Same in religion or politics or relationships.

It should be much bigger than message boards.But to be honest whatever you do its now to late. And its sad to say you aint even an annoyance to Tan. The only thing that can piss him off just slightly is that the stadium is fiiled with fans wearing blue. And thats the truth. Marches he could not give a shit about. If the numbers were big enough for a sit in it would get media attention but in truth Tan could not give a fook. Sad but true. :cry:

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:47 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Road Runner BeepBeep wrote:Calling people soul sellers its out of order,they lost a lot of support for that.


Can you find a link where they said it?

are you blind and in denial or have you been in a coma,it's on THEIR t shirts and THEIR banners that THEY'VE had printed.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:56 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.


I agree with you on this mate, but they'll never raise the cash for it, while people are making threads on messageboards slagging them off.

No group is perfect, but we all have a responsibility to see the bigger picture in my opinion. Same in religion or politics or relationships.

It should be much bigger than message boards.But to be honest whatever you do its now to late. And its sad to say you aint even an annoyance to Tan. The only thing that can piss him off just slightly is that the stadium is fiiled with fans wearing blue. And thats the truth. Marches he could not give a shit about. If the numbers were big enough for a sit in it would get media attention but in truth Tan could not give a fook. Sad but true. :cry:


As I said earlier, you really don't know this. You don't know it's too late, or what Tan's thoughts are or what his thought process is.

He is getting a lot of international criticism for his running of the club. It will be kept up as long as he keeps the red shirts, so lets keep the pressure on until he reverses it.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:03 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.


I agree with you on this mate, but they'll never raise the cash for it, while people are making threads on messageboards slagging them off.

No group is perfect, but we all have a responsibility to see the bigger picture in my opinion. Same in religion or politics or relationships.

It should be much bigger than message boards.But to be honest whatever you do its now to late. And its sad to say you aint even an annoyance to Tan. The only thing that can piss him off just slightly is that the stadium is fiiled with fans wearing blue. And thats the truth. Marches he could not give a shit about. If the numbers were big enough for a sit in it would get media attention but in truth Tan could not give a fook. Sad but true. :cry:


As I said earlier, you really don't know this. You don't know it's too late, or what Tan's thoughts are or what his thought process is.

He is getting a lot of international criticism for his running of the club. It will be kept up as long as he keeps the red shirts, so lets keep the pressure on until he reverses it.

He wont mate its been the plan all along. Tan dont believe in lucky red as well as us mate. The new guy investing wants the red or he wont come on board.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:15 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:However much people belittle BU one thing no one can deny and that is they are the only group that has made a serious stand for the blue.

thats the problem,it isnt taken seriously anymore. At some point it moved away from our colour and Cardiff City,which are the things that do actually UNITE most of us.i for one wish they would think much harder about what actually does UNITE us and focus on that,instead of finding new ways to alienate them selves . what do you think Tans thoughts were of the protest at the Swansea game?
i dont think he would have been at all happy with the amount of blue on show...........then that..did it add or detract from the thousands that protested simply by wearing the blue. i believe it detracted.
i am convinced,had they just stuck to the one issue there would be no knockers,and many more in the protests

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:16 pm

So that kills the 'we dont need to do anything because a new owner will return us to blue argument' then?

None of us know the future, but all I know is that I'll 100% support anyone who is trying to restore us to blue, whether thats Bluebirds Unite, the trust, messageboard owners or individual fans.

Those trying to divide, those who wear red..no time for them personally.

:malky:

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:36 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
jtc wrote:i agree that ccfc should be on the clobber.100pc with that unless it,s a copyright issue.i take my hat of to bu.the only ones with a pair big enough to have a go.don,t forget kcb didn,t get out the traps due to (alleged :laughing6: )harrasment.whatever bu achieve thay have stopped the fear factor concerning protesting.whilst i like the tee shirts with i didnt have to sell my soul -i can understand some fans who are very reluctant reds not liking it.one more thought,very soon it wouldnt surprise me if vinny t goes the whole hog and changes the name of the club to dragons or something equally daft.who will be around to galvanise support if bu fold?bu will be needed by the vast majority of fans very soon imo.the more extrme tans behavior the more people will see that bu represent the only organised opposition to the mad emperor


Jeff, The name CARDIFF CITY can be on anything u want, no copyright on it, there is on Cardiff City FC.
Turning up at games wearing BLUE is in my opinion like Nukes says and Ive always believed the best and biggest protest of all and its increasing match by match :thumbup: :ayatollah:


Then what is their reason for not putting Cardiff city?

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:36 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Egomaniacs, sadly more about becoming fan leaders and representatives than turning us back to blue.


Total lie. To say such a dramatic and sensational thing shows you to be something of an egomaniac witha 'look at me' post.

To be fair, I haven't read a single pro blue comment from you in many months, so it's clearly something you want to moan about while doing nothing rather than talk sensibly about it.


Stop talking so wet soppy bollocks. My opinion is that and it always has been that. I am pro blue but unlike you I don't see every topic through seething teeth about the rebrand.

Talk sensibly? Since day one all you have posted about is Tan and the rebrand.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:44 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Egomaniacs, sadly more about becoming fan leaders and representatives than turning us back to blue.


Total lie. To say such a dramatic and sensational thing shows you to be something of an egomaniac witha 'look at me' post.

To be fair, I haven't read a single pro blue comment from you in many months, so it's clearly something you want to moan about while doing nothing rather than talk sensibly about it.


Stop talking so wet soppy bollocks. My opinion is that and it always has been that. I am pro blue but unlike you I don't see every topic through seething teeth about the rebrand.

Talk sensibly? Since day one all you have posted about is Tan and the rebrand.


Well this is a specific topic about the rebrand, and you decide to post something totally unsubstantiated.

Jeez, for someone who is supposedly pro-blue you don't half create a lot of chaff for the wheat you produce.

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:52 pm

Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?

Re: Bluebirds Unite

Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:00 am

Legs 11 wrote:Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?


Because he's too busy telling others what to do to do anything himself.