Its almost anti-football

I dont expect people to agree and havent asked you to. What is odd though is when you have an opinion then it is your right and when I have one then im looking for bites.

My opinion is the one held my the majority of cardiff fans so no idea why you are having a go at me for. Your own fans have been far more brutal than I was and id imagine 99.9% of people that watched the game would think the same.

I dont expect people to agree and havent asked you to. What is odd though is when you have an opinion then it is your right and when I have one then im looking for bites.

My opinion is the one held my the majority of cardiff fans so no idea why you are having a go at me for. Your own fans have been far more brutal than I was and id imagine 99.9% of people that watched the game would think the same.

Yes I'm the 0.1 percent who thought it was a good point and that Norwich didn't do enough to win the game. Call me an optimist.

I dont expect people to agree and havent asked you to. What is odd though is when you have an opinion then it is your right and when I have one then im looking for bites.

My opinion is the one held my the majority of cardiff fans so no idea why you are having a go at me for. Your own fans have been far more brutal than I was and id imagine 99.9% of people that watched the game would think the same.

Yes I'm the 0.1 percent who thought it was a good point and that Norwich didn't do enough to win the game. Call me an optimist.

Thats fine, but dont disregard my opinion because you dont agree. Considering you hold the extreme minority opinion surely its far more likely you are winding me up than the other way around?

Out of interest how did swansea do against Norwich last season?

I dont expect people to agree and havent asked you to. What is odd though is when you have an opinion then it is your right and when I have one then im looking for bites.

My opinion is the one held my the majority of cardiff fans so no idea why you are having a go at me for. Your own fans have been far more brutal than I was and id imagine 99.9% of people that watched the game would think the same.

Yes I'm the 0.1 percent who thought it was a good point and that Norwich didn't do enough to win the game. Call me an optimist.

Thats fine, but dont disregard my opinion because you dont agree. Considering you hold the extreme minority opinion surely its far more likely you are winding me up than the other way around?

No, Im just an optimist who doesn't look for negatives in things as if that was the case malky would have been sacked when we lost against Bristol city last year. Same goes for you, don't disregard an opinion because it differs from yours, I would disagree with your views about an extreme minority. This message board reflects a minority of the fan base, just because fans post opinions on here, it doesn't mean that they are fact. Alot of fans don't post on message boards, they like traditional methods such as talking about a game face to face.

Out of interest how did swansea do against Norwich last season?

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Draw then, same as us.

At home against them?

Draw then, same as us.

At home against them?

Nobody is disputing you drew. I think the manner of the draw is whats causing the debate.

The home game was one of the most unjust defeats ive witnessed. It was 4-3 to them.

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6 goals conceded against them. They're no mugs so happy with the point and we move on. We have to be better though no doubt.

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

Because we had no striker and had external factors affecting the mental side of our game. The fact we had achieved everything we realistically could with a third of the season remaining was bizarre. However our consistantly good performances through the first two thirds of our season allowed us this slightly worse spell.

Dont really need to understand poker. Play good and you have more chance of winning, play bad and you have less chance. So bad performances, especially consistantly bad ones are of concern.

Not for the first time in Malkys reign ive witnessed an absolute battering, yet the scoreboard shows parity. Very odd anomaly indeed and one I cant really work out. Is this to Malkys credit or discredit, i havent worked that out either.

Your midfield is bypassed very easily, but as soon as they are they rush to fill the box and join the defenders and the box resembles one of those under 9 games where everyone is within 20 yards of each other... Yet they are all Cardiff players. Teams just cant seem to stick it in the net.

I guess picking up points from games you deserve nothing from can be viewed as a good thing, however if I was a fan id be asking "why dont we deserve them in the first place?". Malky has had a massive budget to work with and the football on display is honestly the worst brand of football I have seen at this level. Stoke look like swarve spaniards in comparison.... But then you are seemingly hard to beat with your defending in numbers.

Im offering no solutions here, ive just realised your team confuses me. How can a team consistantly play so badly yet still not lose? It cant be luck as its happened consistantly since he took over. Rarely, im at a loss, i have no idea. Discuss.

The Premier League is anti-football, haven't you noticed?

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

Because we had no striker and had external factors affecting the mental side of our game. The fact we had achieved everything we realistically could with a third of the season remaining was bizarre. However our consistantly good performances through the first two thirds of our season allowed us this slightly worse spell.

Dont really need to understand poker. Play good and you have more chance of winning, play bad and you have less chance. So bad performances, especially consistantly bad ones are of concern.

So based on that analogy we can only get better as we are playing poor anti-football. I knew you had a positive post in you.

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

Because we had no striker and had external factors affecting the mental side of our game. The fact we had achieved everything we realistically could with a third of the season remaining was bizarre. However our consistantly good performances through the first two thirds of our season allowed us this slightly worse spell.

Dont really need to understand poker. Play good and you have more chance of winning, play bad and you have less chance. So bad performances, especially consistantly bad ones are of concern.

So based on that analogy we can only get better as we are playing poor anti-football. I knew you had a positive post in you.

Not sure how you deduced that from my post tbh.

Performances can dip when nothing left to play for. You have lots to play for so cant see them improving due to STILL having something to play for otherwise it would be improved now.

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

Because we had no striker and had external factors affecting the mental side of our game. The fact we had achieved everything we realistically could with a third of the season remaining was bizarre. However our consistantly good performances through the first two thirds of our season allowed us this slightly worse spell.

Dont really need to understand poker. Play good and you have more chance of winning, play bad and you have less chance. So bad performances, especially consistantly bad ones are of concern.

So based on that analogy we can only get better as we are playing poor anti-football. I knew you had a positive post in you.

Not sure how you deduced that from my post tbh.

Performances can dip when nothing left to play for. You have lots to play for so cant see them improving due to STILL having something to play for otherwise it would be improved now.

I like how you wormed your way out of that one. So lets get this straight.. Swansea can play poorly and improve, yet we can't as we have more to play for and would have played well by now otherwise. We are still learning at this level and can only improve as we get to grips with the pace, tactics etc. I think Swansea's performances last season were good until they won the cup. I think to say they had nothing to play for is abit of old tosh though, a higher place finish is motivation to any team in the premier league.

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

Because we had no striker and had external factors affecting the mental side of our game. The fact we had achieved everything we realistically could with a third of the season remaining was bizarre. However our consistantly good performances through the first two thirds of our season allowed us this slightly worse spell.

Dont really need to understand poker. Play good and you have more chance of winning, play bad and you have less chance. So bad performances, especially consistantly bad ones are of concern.

So based on that analogy we can only get better as we are playing poor anti-football. I knew you had a positive post in you.

Not sure how you deduced that from my post tbh.

Performances can dip when nothing left to play for. You have lots to play for so cant see them improving due to STILL having something to play for otherwise it would be improved now.

I like how you wormed your way out of that one. So lets get this straight.. Swansea can play poorly and improve, yet we can't as we have more to play for and would have played well by now otherwise.

no, you have twisted what I said. I said Swansea played well through out most of the season, falling away when there was nothing to play for. Im not sure how this relates to Cardiff.

We are still learning at this level and can only improve as we get to grips with the pace, tactics etc.

well that doesnt seem to be the case does it, you seem to be getting worse. This was your worst performance of the season. Yes you may improve but we have seen no evidence of that yet, not in the performance stakes anyway.

I think Swansea's performances last season were good until they won the cup. I think to say they had nothing to play for is abit of old tosh though, a higher place finish is motivation to any team in the premier league.

correct observation. Finishing higher would have little to no real impact on us at all. We had already qualified for Europe and our highest realistic possible finish was 7th if memory serves, its not a great deal of difference..

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

23 points from the last 23 games is more than a spell and kicks in before the latter stages of the cup.

Millions of pounds worth of differnce

You know I love an analogy. Excuse me if I use another.

Performance in relation to points is like poker.

If you go all in with a 7 and 2 off suit. You may get the odd result, however you will lose in the longrun as its an awful play. Play well and go all in with AA or KK and you may lose some unjustly but you will get a result an awful lot more often than not.

Your performance against Norwich was the preverbal 7 and 2 off suit that managed to get a split pot against a far superior hand.

The concerning thing is the performance not the result as law of averages say that the worse you play the bigger the chance of losing. Thats why we played better than Norwich both times and didnt get 3 points yet we finished 9th because that level of performance was maintained and we got a result more often than not.

Yet you averaged 23 points from the last 23 games.
We do need to improve though but we are 9 games into a season and a division that many of our players haven't experienced before. If we can squeeze out results now then hopefully we will grow as the season unfolds and players continue to adapt.
I know nothing about poker.

Because we had no striker and had external factors affecting the mental side of our game. The fact we had achieved everything we realistically could with a third of the season remaining was bizarre. However our consistantly good performances through the first two thirds of our season allowed us this slightly worse spell.

Dont really need to understand poker. Play good and you have more chance of winning, play bad and you have less chance. So bad performances, especially consistantly bad ones are of concern.

So based on that analogy we can only get better as we are playing poor anti-football. I knew you had a positive post in you.

Not sure how you deduced that from my post tbh.

Performances can dip when nothing left to play for. You have lots to play for so cant see them improving due to STILL having something to play for otherwise it would be improved now.

I like how you wormed your way out of that one. So lets get this straight.. Swansea can play poorly and improve, yet we can't as we have more to play for and would have played well by now otherwise.

no, you have twisted what I said. I said Swansea played well through out most of the season, falling away when there was nothing to play for. Im not sure how this relates to Cardiff.

We are still learning at this level and can only improve as we get to grips with the pace, tactics etc.

well that doesnt seem to be the case does it, you seem to be getting worse. This was your worst performance of the season. Yes you may improve but we have seen no evidence of that yet, not in the performance stakes anyway.

I think Swansea's performances last season were good until they won the cup. I think to say they had nothing to play for is abit of old tosh though, a higher place finish is motivation to any team in the premier league.

correct observation. Finishing higher would have little to no real impact on us at all. We had already qualified for Europe and our highest realistic possible finish was 7th if memory serves, its not a great deal of difference..

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

It hardly makes a difference. I think its 700k a place, so basically they were playing for £1.4m for the club. Its peanuts.

Im not being biased, im talking sense. The two scenarios are not similar.

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

What would you say was our worst? I thought we were appalling in the first half against Newcastle, far worse than yesterday.
We did pick up in the 2nd though but the damage was done

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

Ive watched most of them, we play most of our matches on a Sunday.

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

Ive watched most of them, we play most of our matches on a Sunday.

Not all of them then.

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

What would you say was our worst? I thought we were appalling in the first half against Newcastle, far worse than yesterday.
We did pick up in the 2nd though but the damage was done

Unless you agree with roathy, you are wrong. I agree with you though, poor against Newcastle, far worse than Norwich.

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

What would you say was our worst? I thought we were appalling in the first half against Newcastle, far worse than yesterday.
We did pick up in the 2nd though but the damage was done

You havent been ripped apart like that while offering nothing in reply surely?

I didnt see the Newcastle game or the Chelsea one however.

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

What would you say was our worst? I thought we were appalling in the first half against Newcastle, far worse than yesterday.
We did pick up in the 2nd though but the damage was done

Unless you agree with roathy, you are wrong. I agree with you though, poor against Newcastle, far worse than Norwich.

Why do you keep saying this? You are allowed to disagree with me but I cant disagree with you is that it?

What would you say was our worst? I thought we were appalling in the first half against Newcastle, far worse than yesterday.
We did pick up in the 2nd though but the damage was done

Newcastle in the first half was probably the worst performance I've seen under MM.

West Ham was pretty poor too. Whilst the team performed quite poorly yesterday, they still had chances to win it.

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

It hardly makes a difference. I think its 700k a place, so basically they were playing for £1.4m for the club. Its peanuts.

Im not being biased, im talking sense. The two scenarios are not similar.

1.4 million makes a difference when it could be the difference between keeping a player or not, that money could be spent improving a players wage. I know you won't admit to bias, but I've never seen you compliment cardiff in any shape or form, so lets just take see your comments as that.