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Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:44 am

wez1927 wrote:Chuckles your dodging the question is he a painter ? or a uni graduate ? are you lying and making him out to be a mug to suit your own agenda ? How do you know he hasn't got any football experience at all ? do you know him or are you just bullshiting and trolling around this forum ? ;) hmmmmmmmm


What a strange post. He's painted the stadium walls at CCS, so he could well be both. :lol:

It's well documented that he has no footballing experience whatsoever, can you prove that to be wrong? If so, what clubs has he worked at and in what roles? :lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:54 am

To be honest I wouldn’t say I like him but I don’t know him, certainly don’t like/hate a few things he has done to the club.

Overall i think he has been a good chairman especially if as promised he turns the debt to equity in the next couple of months. He has followed through and backed up the vast majority of his promises with the Langston issue and other debts, Stadium renovations and the proposed new training ground and I think the interest being wrote off was a good touch, I doubt the other directors have.

I do think the Moody situation was a PR disaster more than an actual crisis. Also a PR disaster that could have been easily avoided. If they wanted to get rid of Moody they should have just not replaced him and the “Crisis” would have remained in house.

I hate the idea of Tan interfering, he has employed Malky to do a job and should let him do it but then again something Sam said on BBC Sports made me think, if I owned the club and had ploughed in 100m+ would I be saying to Malky WTF those sub? why so late, why are we so defensive etc basically the questions we also ask on the forum but can’t ask. I really don’t like the idea of it being done during matches but I honestly don’t think Malky would stand for it and it seems Tans notes weren’t even reaching Malky anyway.

I don’t think my opinion of him has really changed since the Moody “crisis”. Ideally we would have a perfect chairman but I don’t think that will ever be the case. I think now it’s a case of it is what it is, the red won’t change under Tan no matter how many petitions I sign. I don’t like seeing the red but if I hated it that much I simply wouldn’t go, it’s just about bearable for now.

Where does he go from here, I would think he will carry on as normal now, media will die down on the moody situation. Our results will determin Malys future.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:59 am

2blue2handle wrote:To be honest I wouldn’t say I like him but I don’t know him, certainly don’t like/hate a few things he has done to the club.

Overall i think he has been a good chairman especially if as promised he turns the debt to equity in the next couple of months. He has followed through and backed up the vast majority of his promises with the Langston issue and other debts, Stadium renovations and the proposed new training ground and I think the interest being wrote off was a good touch, I doubt the other directors have.

I do think the Moody situation was a PR disaster more than an actual crisis. Also a PR disaster that could have been easily avoided. If they wanted to get rid of Moody they should have just not replaced him and the “Crisis” would have remained in house.

I hate the idea of Tan interfering, he has employed Malky to do a job and should let him do it but then again something Sam said on BBC Sports made me think, if I owned the club and had ploughed in 100m+ would I be saying to Malky WTF those sub? why so late, why are we so defensive etc basically the questions we also ask on the forum but can’t ask. I really don’t like the idea of it being done during matches but I honestly don’t think Malky would stand for it and it seems Tans notes weren’t even reaching Malky anyway.

I don’t think my opinion of him has really changed since the Moody “crisis”. Ideally we would have a perfect chairman but I don’t think that will ever be the case. I think now it’s a case of it is what it is, the red won’t change under Tan no matter how many petitions I sign. I don’t like seeing the red but if I hated it that much I simply wouldn’t go, it’s just about bearable for now.

Where does he go from here, I would think he will carry on as normal now, media will die down on the moody situation. Our results will determin Malys future.


I would say that mirrors my thoughts.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:01 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Chuckles your dodging the question is he a painter ? or a uni graduate ? are you lying and making him out to be a mug to suit your own agenda ? How do you know he hasn't got any football experience at all ? do you know him or are you just bullshiting and trolling around this forum ? ;) hmmmmmmmm


What a strange post. He's painted the stadium walls at CCS, so he could well be both. :lol:

It's well documented that he has no footballing experience whatsoever, can you prove that to be wrong? If so, what clubs has he worked at and in what roles? :lol:

no stranger than your posts :lol: i painted walls at my office ,home and business does that make me a painter or someone whos willing to muck in ????where is it documented on here ? ;)

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:08 pm

Still avoiding my questions then... :lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:14 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Still avoiding my questions then... :lol:

can you prove any of your allegations right ;) or you just making it up or going on news paper reports :roll:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:16 pm

wez1927 wrote:can you prove any of your allegations right ;) or you just making it up or going on news paper reports :roll:


Widely reported that he has no footballing experience, backed up by the "experiences" on his professional "linked-in" profile.

If you think that is wrong, please feel free list his football experiences and which which clubs they were...

Ps - painting the CCS in the summer doesn't count. :thumbup:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:19 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:can you prove any of your allegations right ;) or you just making it up or going on news paper reports :roll:


Widely reported that he has no footballing experience, backed up by the "experiences" on his professional "linked-in" profile.

If you think that is wrong, please feel free list his football experiences and which which clubs they were...

Ps - painting the CCS in the summer doesn't count. :thumbup:

so he hasn't shadowed moody for weeks ;)

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:20 pm

wez1927 wrote:so he hasn't shadowed moody for weeks ;)


So you have failed to come up with any relevant football experience which would be necessary for such a role with one of the top 20 clubs in the country? :lol:

Okay. :thumbup:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:25 pm

BigGwynram wrote:What he needs to do, is get a good CEO into the club, someone who knows football, knows the culture and can deal with the press, and can stand up to him and tell it as it is to VT.

agree ..........trouble is, when he arrived,the club was full of people, who know football and the culture......he always thinks he knows better though...............its a shame it wouldnt have taken a lot for him to have been seen as a god here.......its so frustrating...........you really want to like the guy..........he keeps doing things that offend you grrrrr

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:27 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:so he hasn't shadowed moody for weeks ;)


So you have failed to come up with any relevant football experience which would be necessary for such a role with one of the top 20 clubs in the country? :lol:

Okay. :thumbup:

he had 3 moths experience shadowing moody ,so yes he has experience but your question is changing then now ? so did moody before this season have top 20 experience ? ;)

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm

wez1927 wrote:he had 3 moths experience shadowing moody ,so yes he has experience but your question is changing then now ? so did moody before this season have top 20 experience ? ;)


Why are you believing news stories about the shadowing & not about other things? Don't they suit your agenda?! :lol:

Moody had worked alongside Malky at Watford & was trusted by Malky & selected by Malky. :thumbup:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:44 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:he had 3 moths experience shadowing moody ,so yes he has experience but your question is changing then now ? so did moody before this season have top 20 experience ? ;)


Why are you believing news stories about the shadowing & not about other things? Don't they suit your agenda?! :lol:

Moody had worked alongside Malky at Watford & was trusted by Malky & selected by Malky. :thumbup:

what watford are a top 20 club ? ;)

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:45 pm

wez1927 wrote:what watford are a top 20 club ? ;)


No, but I asked what experiences in football did Alistair have to warrant a position in a top 20 football club, not what top 20 experiences he had...

:roll:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:51 pm

:roll: and another one gone, and another one gone,
Another one bites the dust,hey!!!

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:55 pm

Shinobipony wrote::roll: and another one gone, and another one gone,
Another one bites the dust,hey!!!


If anyone is spoiling this thread, it's you with your karaoke singing... :lol:

Wes and I are debating about one of Vincent Tan's decisions, totally relevant and on point until you came in to derail it. :lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:00 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Shinobipony wrote::roll: and another one gone, and another one gone,
Another one bites the dust,hey!!!


If anyone is spoiling this thread, it's you with your karaoke singing... :lol:

Wes and I are debating about one of Vincent Tan's decisions, totally relevant and on point until you came in to derail it. :lol:

Think you killed this thread just like the other good threads.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:00 pm

I have come to the conclusion that not all but nearly all people who post on this board are shit stirring, none of us know the ins and outs and probably never will, why some people hang on to every thing they hear or read astonishes me.

If next summer we are still in the Premiership, yes pherhaps still playing in red but extended the ground, built a new training ground, signed more world class players and more importantly turned all debt into equity will people still shit stir, still find something else to moan about.

I don't think some people will ever be happy and always find something to shit stir or moan about.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:09 pm

To me ever since Tan came in, I have had the feeling it is the start of something bigger? Like what happened at Man City, they had a wealthy benefactor who got them up the league, invested etc...

Then one day he was up on trial for fraud and the club had been sold to some seriously rich dudes.

If we end up being owned by a multi millionaire oil tycoon great, on the flip side, Portsmouth.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:09 pm

Llantwit Blue wrote:I have come to the conclusion that not all but nearly all people who post on this board are shit stirring, none of us know the ins and outs and probably never will, why some people hang on to every thing they hear or read astonishes me.

If next summer we are still in the Premiership, yes pherhaps still playing in red but extended the ground, built a new training ground, signed more world class players and more importantly turned all debt into equity will people still shit stir, still find something else to moan about.

I don't think some people will ever be happy and always find something to shit stir or moan about.

We wouldn't be Cardiff city fans unless there was something to moan about

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:13 pm

2blue2handle wrote:To be honest I wouldn’t say I like him but I don’t know him, certainly don’t like/hate a few things he has done to the club.

Overall i think he has been a good chairman especially if as promised he turns the debt to equity in the next couple of months. He has followed through and backed up the vast majority of his promises with the Langston issue and other debts, Stadium renovations and the proposed new training ground and I think the interest being wrote off was a good touch, I doubt the other directors have.

I do think the Moody situation was a PR disaster more than an actual crisis. Also a PR disaster that could have been easily avoided. If they wanted to get rid of Moody they should have just not replaced him and the “Crisis” would have remained in house.

I hate the idea of Tan interfering, he has employed Malky to do a job and should let him do it but then again something Sam said on BBC Sports made me think, if I owned the club and had ploughed in 100m+ would I be saying to Malky WTF those sub? why so late, why are we so defensive etc basically the questions we also ask on the forum but can’t ask. I really don’t like the idea of it being done during matches but I honestly don’t think Malky would stand for it and it seems Tans notes weren’t even reaching Malky anyway.

I don’t think my opinion of him has really changed since the Moody “crisis”. Ideally we would have a perfect chairman but I don’t think that will ever be the case. I think now it’s a case of it is what it is, the red won’t change under Tan no matter how many petitions I sign. I don’t like seeing the red but if I hated it that much I simply wouldn’t go, it’s just about bearable for now.

Where does he go from here, I would think he will carry on as normal now, media will die down on the moody situation. Our results will determin Malys future.


I totally agree with this. Tan is WRONG to change our identity, the red is a JOKE!

I hope he will carry on and hopefully tan will turn the debt to equity. But if it's true about him influencing the tactis...then nono, he should leave it to the manager and let him do what he's good at!

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:09 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
np20 wrote:Nobody knows what this kazak does. Let's forget him. The guy got a title, he doesn't do the job I'd bet. And malky has the last say so what does it matter. We have a team of scouts, its not like we lost them all,


No, let's not just "forget" him.

Tan undermined MM by ditching his right hand man & replaced with "this Kazakh". I can't believe that some fans are still willing to ignore Tan's actions because he lent some money to the club.


why did Tan sack him?

when you can answer that then you can say Tan 100% undermined Malky



Obviously there isn't an official statement because as you quite clearly know.

Tan or Lim will not make statements and Malky wouldn't dare to. The truth is out there somewhere but clearly as Moody was paid up until the end of his contract, it suggests that his contract was just terminated to allow someone else in.

If Moody did something wrong, surely he would of been sacked without pay...

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:39 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Chuckles your dodging the question is he a painter ? or a uni graduate ? are you lying and making him out to be a mug to suit your own agenda ? How do you know he hasn't got any football experience at all ? do you know him or are you just bullshiting and trolling around this forum ? ;) hmmmmmmmm


What a strange post. He's painted the stadium walls at CCS, so he could well be both. :lol:

It's well documented that he has no footballing experience whatsoever, can you prove that to be wrong? If so, what clubs has he worked at and in what roles? :lol:


But doing odd job painting walls does not make him a painter its that simple why can't you understand that?
you are saying because he was called acting recruitment boss, nows he is the recruitment boss! very talented man don't you agree?

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:53 pm

Well done Chuckles, you have done it again.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:01 pm

Home!

StT.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:17 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:Home!

StT.


:iroc: TAXI FOR TAN!


Sorry it's a blue one though Volatile Vincent, you can rebrand them when you are back in Malaysia...

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:51 pm

The rebrand aside, you cant fault the bloke for the money he's shelled out (as no-one else would), yet I feel he's shot himself in the foot so many times its getting ridiculous.
Our support is famous for giving someone 100% backing if they try, and try he has......but each time he's tried something he does something else to turn the fans against him.
He took us over and 'rescued' us......then changed the badge and shirt colour.
He gave us the best manager I've ever seen down there......then tried to push him out.
He sacked Malky's mate for bringing us some of the best players I've seen in a City shirt.
He promised a blue away shirt and 5 months down the line has only just started to sell them.
He brings embarrassment on the club with his comedy dress sense at every opportunity.
And last but not least, he very rarely explains himself for his actions, when fans really do need to know whats going on. Its the mystery of it all thats doing the damage......all we ever wonder is whats coming next.
He must be as thick as shit because with a little guidance from someone within the club with ANY sense of pride in our traditions, Tan could be the best owner we have ever had.
Its all so simple, but at the moment Tan looks like a fool.......and he doesnt seem to be bothered by it. Very Worrying.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:56 pm

I have been reported by the big girls blouse poster because i said a naughty word and called him names on this thread :roll: ..

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:01 pm

Bluemellons wrote:The rebrand aside, you cant fault the bloke for the money he's shelled out (as no-one else would), yet I feel he's shot himself in the foot so many times its getting ridiculous.
Our support is famous for giving someone 100% backing if they try, and try he has......but each time he's tried something he does something else to turn the fans against him.
100% backing thats historical is it?
He took us over and 'rescued' us......then changed the badge and shirt colour.
no he did rescue us no need for inverted commas
He gave us the best manager I've ever seen down there......then tried to push him out.
conjecture no proof, even Malky has said he wasnt asked to resign
He sacked Malky's mate for bringing us some of the best players I've seen in a City shirt.
did he sack him for bringing in players? thought it was a mystery
He promised a blue away shirt and 5 months down the line has only just started to sell them.
weve had a blue away shirt for 2 seasons now ad we have had historical problems with kits
He brings embarrassment on the club with his comedy dress sense at every opportunity.
not sure how his dress sense has any bearing on his business skills
And last but not least, he very rarely explains himself for his actions, when fans really do need to know whats going on. Its the mystery of it all thats doing the damage......all we ever wonder is whats coming next.
does he have to explain himself its his money, his business why does he have to explain things, other businesses dont explain their business decisions
He must be as thick as shit because with a little guidance from someone within the club with ANY sense of pride in our traditions, Tan could be the best owner we have ever had.
Its all so simple, but at the moment Tan looks like a fool.......and he doesnt seem to be bothered by it. Very Worrying.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:08 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Bluemellons wrote:The rebrand aside, you cant fault the bloke for the money he's shelled out (as no-one else would), yet I feel he's shot himself in the foot so many times its getting ridiculous.
Our support is famous for giving someone 100% backing if they try, and try he has......but each time he's tried something he does something else to turn the fans against him.
100% backing thats historical is it?
He took us over and 'rescued' us......then changed the badge and shirt colour.
no he did rescue us no need for inverted commas
He gave us the best manager I've ever seen down there......then tried to push him out.
conjecture no proof, even Malky has said he wasnt asked to resign
He sacked Malky's mate for bringing us some of the best players I've seen in a City shirt.
did he sack him for bringing in players? thought it was a mystery
He promised a blue away shirt and 5 months down the line has only just started to sell them.
weve had a blue away shirt for 2 seasons now ad we have had historical problems with kits
He brings embarrassment on the club with his comedy dress sense at every opportunity.
not sure how his dress sense has any bearing on his business skills
And last but not least, he very rarely explains himself for his actions, when fans really do need to know whats going on. Its the mystery of it all thats doing the damage......all we ever wonder is whats coming next.
does he have to explain himself its his money, his business why does he have to explain things, other businesses dont explain their business decisions
He must be as thick as shit because with a little guidance from someone within the club with ANY sense of pride in our traditions, Tan could be the best owner we have ever had.
Its all so simple, but at the moment Tan looks like a fool.......and he doesnt seem to be bothered by it. Very Worrying.



SO YOU AREN'T WORRIED AT ALL ABOUT OUR CLUB'S FUTURE UNDER VT ?? :?