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Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:01 pm

Damned Yank wrote:Roath has really gone downhill lately. Sad to see.


:lol: you keep telling yourself this, ill keep talking sense.

Touched a nerve with you these past few days. :laughing6:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:05 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:What a legend. He said he would wipe out the £100m + debt.... So he takes away £5m which was just interest anyway and hes a hero :lol:


He said he would and still may do so. He said he will expand the stadium and may still well do so.

He has wiped off the 7% interest you have been laughing at for months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He said you would be blue too :lol:

He said your name wont change and then recently said "im thinking about it". :lol:

The fact you describe the debt to equity as it MAY happen says all you need to know. Hes got you by the balls and you have no say or no idea on what hes doing to you.

He took £5m away, congrats. :laughing6:



oh come on Roathie, you're a grownup, why the attempt to take focus off the 7% ?
The OP was funny if nothing else


My post was entirely about the 7%.

The 7% was a non existent sum, made up. You never spent this 7%. He never loaned you this 7%. Hes wiped off £5m that he never gave you and you never spent or ever even had.

The fact that he said he would add 7% to the loans and then "take it away" gets you all onside again. It was his get out of jail free card when in trouble with the fans, and its worked :laughing6:

Hes taken your debt level from £120m to £115m when he promised it would be zero as soon as Langston was settled. Awesome thanks Tan :thumbup:


It was existent. It was the interest Tan was charging for the considerable loan he has continued to make to CCFC. You have reminded us of it for quite some time...and now it's gone. pfffft
But to deviate from the topic, i.e. the stuffing of the 7% in the Jacks, you're right about the debt to equity I think we're all concerned about that. And you should be too, without a thriving club and forum over here what would you do with your time?

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:05 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Roath has really gone downhill lately. Sad to see.


:lol: you keep telling yourself this, ill keep talking sense.

Touched a nerve with you these past few days. :laughing6:


I think the opposite is probably true, judging by your inability to ignore innocent commentary like that.

It really is sad. Are you getting enough sleep lately? Coming down with something, perhaps? Honestly, the quality has become somewhat disappointing.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:06 pm

Damned Yank wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Roath has really gone downhill lately. Sad to see.


:lol: you keep telling yourself this, ill keep talking sense.

Touched a nerve with you these past few days. :laughing6:


I think the opposite is probably true, judging by your inability to ignore innocent commentary like that.

It really is sad. Are you getting enough sleep lately? Coming down with something, perhaps? Honestly, the quality has become somewhat disappointing.


Poor yank, poor :lol:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:09 pm

alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:What a legend. He said he would wipe out the £100m + debt.... So he takes away £5m which was just interest anyway and hes a hero :lol:


He said he would and still may do so. He said he will expand the stadium and may still well do so.

He has wiped off the 7% interest you have been laughing at for months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He said you would be blue too :lol:

He said your name wont change and then recently said "im thinking about it". :lol:

The fact you describe the debt to equity as it MAY happen says all you need to know. Hes got you by the balls and you have no say or no idea on what hes doing to you.

He took £5m away, congrats. :laughing6:



oh come on Roathie, you're a grownup, why the attempt to take focus off the 7% ?
The OP was funny if nothing else


My post was entirely about the 7%.

The 7% was a non existent sum, made up. You never spent this 7%. He never loaned you this 7%. Hes wiped off £5m that he never gave you and you never spent or ever even had.

The fact that he said he would add 7% to the loans and then "take it away" gets you all onside again. It was his get out of jail free card when in trouble with the fans, and its worked :laughing6:

Hes taken your debt level from £120m to £115m when he promised it would be zero as soon as Langston was settled. Awesome thanks Tan :thumbup:


It was existent. It was the interest Tan was charging for the considerable loan he has continued to make to CCFC. You have reminded us of it for quite some time...and now it's gone. pfffft
But to deviate from the topic, i.e. the stuffing of the 7% in the Jacks, you're right about the debt to equity I think we're all concerned about that. And you should be too, without a thriving club and forum over here what would you do with your time?


It wasnt existent. It was a figure to use for future leverage, which it has. It may well have been 107%. He never gave this to you, this money never changed hands and the club is in so much debt how the hell is it going to make £5m over the £120m it currently owes to have ever paid it back?

Hence It is a worthless loan note which has been taken away to get you onside.... And judging from this thread, Tan knows you guys down to a tee :lol:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:11 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:What a legend. He said he would wipe out the £100m + debt.... So he takes away £5m which was just interest anyway and hes a hero :lol:


He said he would and still may do so. He said he will expand the stadium and may still well do so.

He has wiped off the 7% interest you have been laughing at for months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He said you would be blue too :lol:

He said your name wont change and then recently said "im thinking about it". :lol:

The fact you describe the debt to equity as it MAY happen says all you need to know. Hes got you by the balls and you have no say or no idea on what hes doing to you.

He took £5m away, congrats. :laughing6:



oh come on Roathie, you're a grownup, why the attempt to take focus off the 7% ?
The OP was funny if nothing else


My post was entirely about the 7%.

The 7% was a non existent sum, made up. You never spent this 7%. He never loaned you this 7%. Hes wiped off £5m that he never gave you and you never spent or ever even had.

The fact that he said he would add 7% to the loans and then "take it away" gets you all onside again. It was his get out of jail free card when in trouble with the fans, and its worked :laughing6:

Hes taken your debt level from £120m to £115m when he promised it would be zero as soon as Langston was settled. Awesome thanks Tan :thumbup:


Take this point, for example. You are displaying a basic lack of understanding about how modern businesses are financed.

Tan has basically cancelled the interest terms of any money he has lent to the club. As owner, he is in effect lending the money to himself, while using the club as collateral for the funding.

Does that sound familiar? It should. It's how the Glazers bought Utd, one of the most financially successful clubs in the world.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:13 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Roath has really gone downhill lately. Sad to see.


:lol: you keep telling yourself this, ill keep talking sense.

Touched a nerve with you these past few days. :laughing6:


I think the opposite is probably true, judging by your inability to ignore innocent commentary like that.

It really is sad. Are you getting enough sleep lately? Coming down with something, perhaps? Honestly, the quality has become somewhat disappointing.


Poor yank, poor :lol:


Yet you keep proving it to be quite correct. You literally can't help yourself.

The worst part is it's becoming so predictable. You used to be much more diverse and, dare I say it, fun.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:15 pm

alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:What a legend. He said he would wipe out the £100m + debt.... So he takes away £5m which was just interest anyway and hes a hero :lol:


He said he would and still may do so. He said he will expand the stadium and may still well do so.

He has wiped off the 7% interest you have been laughing at for months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He said you would be blue too :lol:

He said your name wont change and then recently said "im thinking about it". :lol:

The fact you describe the debt to equity as it MAY happen says all you need to know. Hes got you by the balls and you have no say or no idea on what hes doing to you.

He took £5m away, congrats. :laughing6:



oh come on Roathie, you're a grownup, why the attempt to take focus off the 7% ?
The OP was funny if nothing else


My post was entirely about the 7%.

The 7% was a non existent sum, made up. You never spent this 7%. He never loaned you this 7%. Hes wiped off £5m that he never gave you and you never spent or ever even had.

The fact that he said he would add 7% to the loans and then "take it away" gets you all onside again. It was his get out of jail free card when in trouble with the fans, and its worked :laughing6:

Hes taken your debt level from £120m to £115m when he promised it would be zero as soon as Langston was settled. Awesome thanks Tan :thumbup:


It was existent. It was the interest Tan was charging for the considerable loan he has continued to make to CCFC. You have reminded us of it for quite some time...and now it's gone. pfffft
But to deviate from the topic, i.e. the stuffing of the 7% in the Jacks, you're right about the debt to equity I think we're all concerned about that. And you should be too, without a thriving club and forum over here what would you do with your time?


Hopefully go to a baking forum or maybe 4chan to practice the interwebz for a while? :lol:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:16 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:What a legend. He said he would wipe out the £100m + debt.... So he takes away £5m which was just interest anyway and hes a hero :lol:


He said he would and still may do so. He said he will expand the stadium and may still well do so.

He has wiped off the 7% interest you have been laughing at for months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He said you would be blue too :lol:

He said your name wont change and then recently said "im thinking about it". :lol:

The fact you describe the debt to equity as it MAY happen says all you need to know. Hes got you by the balls and you have no say or no idea on what hes doing to you.

He took £5m away, congrats. :laughing6:



oh come on Roathie, you're a grownup, why the attempt to take focus off the 7% ?
The OP was funny if nothing else


My post was entirely about the 7%.

The 7% was a non existent sum, made up. You never spent this 7%. He never loaned you this 7%. Hes wiped off £5m that he never gave you and you never spent or ever even had.

The fact that he said he would add 7% to the loans and then "take it away" gets you all onside again. It was his get out of jail free card when in trouble with the fans, and its worked :laughing6:

Hes taken your debt level from £120m to £115m when he promised it would be zero as soon as Langston was settled. Awesome thanks Tan :thumbup:


It was existent. It was the interest Tan was charging for the considerable loan he has continued to make to CCFC. You have reminded us of it for quite some time...and now it's gone. pfffft
But to deviate from the topic, i.e. the stuffing of the 7% in the Jacks, you're right about the debt to equity I think we're all concerned about that. And you should be too, without a thriving club and forum over here what would you do with your time?


It wasnt existent. It was a figure to use for future leverage, which it has. It may well have been 107%. He never gave this to you, this money never changed hands and the club is in so much debt how the hell is it going to make £5m over the £120m it currently owes to have ever paid it back?

Hence It is a worthless loan note which has been taken away to get you onside.... And judging from this thread, Tan knows you guys down to a tee :lol:


Yea my mortgage company just called and said they don't need the interest either, it was just so they could take it away and make me happy :lol:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:21 pm

Damned Yank wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Roath has really gone downhill lately. Sad to see.


:lol: you keep telling yourself this, ill keep talking sense.

Touched a nerve with you these past few days. :laughing6:


I think the opposite is probably true, judging by your inability to ignore innocent commentary like that.

It really is sad. Are you getting enough sleep lately? Coming down with something, perhaps? Honestly, the quality has become somewhat disappointing.


Poor yank, poor :lol:


Yet you keep proving it to be quite correct. You literally can't help yourself.

The worst part is it's becoming so predictable. You used to be much more diverse and, dare I say it, fun.


I will always reply yank. Im not ignorant. If you want to put forward a decent debate instead of your current filing efforts it may be a more interesting read :laughing6:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:25 pm

alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
alexc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:What a legend. He said he would wipe out the £100m + debt.... So he takes away £5m which was just interest anyway and hes a hero :lol:


He said he would and still may do so. He said he will expand the stadium and may still well do so.

He has wiped off the 7% interest you have been laughing at for months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He said you would be blue too :lol:

He said your name wont change and then recently said "im thinking about it". :lol:

The fact you describe the debt to equity as it MAY happen says all you need to know. Hes got you by the balls and you have no say or no idea on what hes doing to you.

He took £5m away, congrats. :laughing6:



oh come on Roathie, you're a grownup, why the attempt to take focus off the 7% ?
The OP was funny if nothing else


My post was entirely about the 7%.

The 7% was a non existent sum, made up. You never spent this 7%. He never loaned you this 7%. Hes wiped off £5m that he never gave you and you never spent or ever even had.

The fact that he said he would add 7% to the loans and then "take it away" gets you all onside again. It was his get out of jail free card when in trouble with the fans, and its worked :laughing6:

Hes taken your debt level from £120m to £115m when he promised it would be zero as soon as Langston was settled. Awesome thanks Tan :thumbup:


It was existent. It was the interest Tan was charging for the considerable loan he has continued to make to CCFC. You have reminded us of it for quite some time...and now it's gone. pfffft
But to deviate from the topic, i.e. the stuffing of the 7% in the Jacks, you're right about the debt to equity I think we're all concerned about that. And you should be too, without a thriving club and forum over here what would you do with your time?


It wasnt existent. It was a figure to use for future leverage, which it has. It may well have been 107%. He never gave this to you, this money never changed hands and the club is in so much debt how the hell is it going to make £5m over the £120m it currently owes to have ever paid it back?

Hence It is a worthless loan note which has been taken away to get you onside.... And judging from this thread, Tan knows you guys down to a tee :lol:


Yea my mortgage company just called and said they don't need the interest either, it was just so they could take it away and make me happy :lol:


What has that got to do with the price of fish?

You dont seem to understand what is being said here. He said debt to equity will take place correct? If this is the case then what does it matter what the % interest was? It may well have been 100000007%. It is a worthless loan note that you cant afford to pay back anyway.

Im not aware of a bank yet who claim they will write off all you owe on houses. Pm me, id love to know. If they do then it doesnt matter what they charge as an interest rate... Correct?

You have been tucked up yet again but have no idea :lol:

Hes taken away something which clearly never existed and hes a hero :lol:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:37 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Roath has really gone downhill lately. Sad to see.


:lol: you keep telling yourself this, ill keep talking sense.

Touched a nerve with you these past few days. :laughing6:


I think the opposite is probably true, judging by your inability to ignore innocent commentary like that.

It really is sad. Are you getting enough sleep lately? Coming down with something, perhaps? Honestly, the quality has become somewhat disappointing.


Poor yank, poor :lol:


Yet you keep proving it to be quite correct. You literally can't help yourself.

The worst part is it's becoming so predictable. You used to be much more diverse and, dare I say it, fun.


I will always reply yank. Im not ignorant. If you want to put forward a decent debate instead of your current filing efforts it may be a more interesting read :laughing6:


Ha ha fair enough Roath.

I will assist where possible.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Thats what i like to hear :thumbright:

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:39 am

No mater what Tan does he will be still be the man who took our identity away

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:12 am

I maybe wrong but isnt the 7% still on all existing loans? tan has just stated any future loans will not have the 7% interest on them and thats anything up to 50mill? Thats the way i read the statement I could be wrong

And for city fans to get all excited over 5mill and 7% interest not being charged on loans is laughable. We still play in red with a shit badge. We still owe 140mill out. We still do not know why moody was dismissed. And in my opinion I think malky will be gone by xmas

If some city fans still want to continue in burying their heads in the sandthen carry on.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:39 am

What else can you do?

You either get on with supporting the club or you don't.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:18 pm

GENERAL CHAT wrote:What else can you do?

You either get on with supporting the club or you don't.

You criticise me and call me a non-fan for saying i'm fed up with club. Very ironic when you look at your signature.

Re: FAO ALL JACKS

Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:31 pm

Nobby does have a point, so much was made about that 7% thread after thread it was brought up but the fact he has written it off has gone mostly untalked about.

I've said all along that Tan would have been stupid to not ask for 7% while Langstone were getting 7%.
Langston paid - Tans 7% written off.