£900 per week on benefits!!!!

So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??

Like I said previously, the can sell them,while. Iran Duncan smith gives
His cronies 44 million bonus,

Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.

No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician

Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!

IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked

Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering!

Yeah Wales would never survive alone because it would never be able to cover the benefit costs!!! FACT.

Ummm? What the hell are you on about? Is this what this is all about? Wales standing alone? Are you one of those Plaid Cymru lot then? I do agree that the Welsh Assembly should be very careful what they wish for, but this has nothing to do with your personal manifesto that children should starve! It's not their fault they were brought into this world you silly man!

Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!

£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!

wow what a link

sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf

Do you want PC lessons? I won't charge much and you can off set the cost against expenses!

Not really just proving the Fact rather than untruths coming from yourself.

I'm sorry, I don't understand your reply. It's not me trying to post a link, badly.

Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.

No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician

Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!

IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked

Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering!

Yeah Wales would never survive alone because it would never be able to cover the benefit costs!!! FACT.

Ummm? What the hell are you on about? Is this what this is all about? Wales standing alone? Are you one of those Plaid Cymru lot then? I do agree that the Welsh Assembly should be very careful what they wish for, but this has nothing to do with your personal manifesto that children should starve! It's not their fault they were brought into this world you silly man!

I tellyou why Wales couldn't stand alone yet you call me Plaid Cymru..? FFS!!!

Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!

£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!

wow what a link

sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf

Do you want PC lessons? I won't charge much and you can off set the cost against expenses!

Not really just proving the Fact rather than untruths coming from yourself.

I'm sorry, I don't understand your reply. It's not me trying to post a link, badly.

No you are just making figures up in your head!!!

Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!

£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!

wow what a link

sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf

So you want to hit people who may have been previously hard working people contributing to the economy who is your leader Farage / Cameron or griffin

Do you want PC lessons? I won't charge much and you can off set the cost against expenses!

Not really just proving the Fact rather than untruths coming from yourself.

I'm sorry, I don't understand your reply. It's not me trying to post a link, badly.

No you are just making figures up in your head!!!

Yes I agree. Plaid is left wing. Adam Brown is more right wing than Hitler. Not even the Nazi's wanted to starve excess children.

:lol: Yes I agree. Plaid is left wing. Adam Brown is more right wing than Hitler. Not even the Nazi's wanted to starve excess children.

Personal responsibility

So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??

Theres a limit to how many you can claim for. Is that so hard for you to understand..?

so go on the Adam say you have 4 kids, you have a successful business you earn a lot of money, you can afford to feed and look after 4 kids. Youve paid your taxes and are fully aware of the entitements you can get for being a tax payer.

Now something goes wrong

your business goes bust, you are now unemployed you have no money, you cant feed your kids

you look to the government for help, after all youve paid all this tax in the past and the government says pick 2 kids, they wont receive anything, which ones would you pick, oldest, youngest, boys, girls, disabled, in poor health, kids with learning difficulties


also the big ? in the room you keep forgetting is its not the parents money its the kids money

So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??

Theres a limit to how many you can claim for. Is that so hard for you to understand..?

so go on the Adam say you have 4 kids, you have a successful business you earn a lot of money, you can afford to feed and look after 4 kids. Youve paid your taxes and are fully aware of the entitements you can get for being a tax payer.

Now something goes wrong

your business goes bust, you are now unemployed you have no money, you cant feed your kids

you look to the government for help, after all youve paid all this tax in the past and the government says pick 2 kids, they wont receive anything, which ones would you pick, oldest, youngest, boys, girls, disabled, in poor health, kids with learning difficulties


also the big ? in the room you keep forgetting is its not the parents money its the kids money

Johnny I would understand that its personal responsiblity and as their father my job to provide for the family. As Ive done previously when inthe shit the first thing I would do is work myself outof the financial situation I would find myself in. Its called Personal responsibility

So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??

Theres a limit to how many you can claim for. Is that so hard for you to understand..?

so go on the Adam say you have 4 kids, you have a successful business you earn a lot of money, you can afford to feed and look after 4 kids. Youve paid your taxes and are fully aware of the entitements you can get for being a tax payer.

Now something goes wrong

your business goes bust, you are now unemployed you have no money, you cant feed your kids

you look to the government for help, after all youve paid all this tax in the past and the government says pick 2 kids, they wont receive anything, which ones would you pick, oldest, youngest, boys, girls, disabled, in poor health, kids with learning difficulties


also the big ? in the room you keep forgetting is its not the parents money its the kids money

Johnny I would understand that its personal responsiblity and as their father my job to provide for the family. As Ive done previously when inthe shit the first thing I would do is work myself outof the financial situation I would find myself in. Its called Personal responsibility

great admire your work ethic still not answering my question though

which 2 of your 4 kids go without until you find a new job, what happens if your new job cant support a family with 4 kids which ones go without

you cant keep arguing your point until you answer these questions

which of your kids do you put up for starvation and extreme poverty?

Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.

No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician

Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!

IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked

Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering!

Yeah Wales would never survive alone because it would never be able to cover the benefit costs!!! FACT.

Ummm? What the hell are you on about? Is this what this is all about? Wales standing alone? Are you one of those Plaid Cymru lot then? I do agree that the Welsh Assembly should be very careful what they wish for, but this has nothing to do with your personal manifesto that children should starve! It's not their fault they were brought into this world you silly man!

I tellyou why Wales couldn't stand alone yet you call me Plaid Cymru..? FFS!!!

If you read my response to your statement then it would be clear for you to understand, however I'll spell it out for you in laymans terms. I was asking if you were plaid cymru in response to you saying Wales could never survive alone under the 'english' benefit system! I don't see how that is hard for you to understand. If your not plaid cymru why bring the 'Wales standing alone' into the debate, as it's not solely a Welsh issue is it! I see you didn't comment on kids starving?

"No I agree 11 kids is a bit mad cant say I would consider having that many myself but that point is now irrelevant, these children now exist, they are British citizens and by that right should be protected by the state and child benefit is always given to the mother.

So my question which of these 11 kids or the ones under working age should go without to alleviate the outrage of £900 a week benefits, or which ones or how many would you let starve?"

JONNY012697


900 quid a week! I could feed several families with that amount of cash, probably a small town but then I was brought up not to scrounge. I suggest that whilst you may well be a CCMB lefty sent in on some homework or other; I apologies if I'm wrong, but I'd estimate your age at 13, 14?

I note that you mention British Citizens; I can't access the programme where I am so haven't seen it, a hint of PC shite perhaps?

There is no exstream property inthis country FFS!!! Stop reading the Guardian FFS we live in the UK not Ethiopa FFS!!!

:lol: Yes I agree. Plaid is left wing. Adam Brown is more right wing than Hitler. Not even the Nazi's wanted to starve excess children.

Personal responsibility

I totally agree with you. For instance Merthyr was the working capital of the world. Everyone had a job and people came from all over the world to work there. That was until the people who run our country fucked it all up. Where's their personal responsibility? When I f**k things up I take responsibility for it, what I don't do is turn my back, walk away and blame the people I screwed over.

Here's an idea. Why not block the fat cat bonuses for just one year. Then use that money to create some jobs in Merthyr. It's no good sticking people on the dole and then whinging about benefits. Return the jobs to Merthyr and I'll be the first to cut their money. Fact is Adam you are a typical British politician. Very good at pointing fingers and blaming others for the mess politicians create. But not very good at doing anything positive.

"No I agree 11 kids is a bit mad cant say I would consider having that many myself but that point is now irrelevant, these children now exist, they are British citizens and by that right should be protected by the state and child benefit is always given to the mother.

So my question which of these 11 kids or the ones under working age should go without to alleviate the outrage of £900 a week benefits, or which ones or how many would you let starve?"

JONNY012697


900 quid a week! I could feed several families with that amount of cash, probably a small town but then I was brought up not to scrounge. I suggest that whilst you may well be a CCMB lefty sent in on some homework or other; I apologies if I'm wrong, but I'd estimate your age at 13, 14?

I note that you mention British Citizens; I can't access the programme where I am so haven't seen it, a hint of PC shite perhaps?

so you dont agree with what I say fine

why are you calling me a CCMB lefty?

why do you think im 13, 14?

whats wrong with the term British Citizen?

go away

:lol: Yes I agree. Plaid is left wing. Adam Brown is more right wing than Hitler. Not even the Nazi's wanted to starve excess children.

Personal responsibility

I totally agree with you. For instance Merthyr was the working capital of the world. Everyone had a job and people came from all over the world to work there. That was until the people who run our country fucked it all up. Where's their personal responsibility? When I f**k things up I take responsibility for it, what I don't do is turn my back, walk away and blame the people I screwed over.

Here's an idea. Why not block the fat cat bonuses for just one year. Then use that money to create some jobs in Merthyr. It's no good sticking people on the dole and then whinging about benefits. Return the jobs to Merthyr and I'll be the first to cut their money. Fact is Adam you are a typical British politician. Very good at pointing fingers and blaming others for the mess politicians create. But not very good at doing anything positive.

Great post!

There is no exstream property inthis country FFS!!! Stop reading the Guardian FFS we live in the UK not Ethiopa FFS!!!

no there isnt extreme poverty in this country

because we have a benefits system which caters for a regardless of who you are or what situation you are in the very system you want to get rid of

:lol: Yes I agree. Plaid is left wing. Adam Brown is more right wing than Hitler. Not even the Nazi's wanted to starve excess children.

Personal responsibility

I totally agree with you. For instance Merthyr was the working capital of the world. Everyone had a job and people came from all over the world to work there. That was until the people who run our country fucked it all up. Where's their personal responsibility? When I f**k things up I take responsibility for it, what I don't do is turn my back, walk away and blame the people I screwed over.

Here's an idea. Why not block the fat cat bonuses for just one year. Then use that money to create some jobs in Merthyr. It's no good sticking people on the dole and then whinging about benefits. Return the jobs to Merthyr and I'll be the first to cut their money. Fact is Adam you are a typical British politician. Very good at pointing fingers and blaming others for the mess politicians create. But not very good at doing anything positive.

You haven't really got aclue have you. The vast majority of my pay went to sponsor many sporting clubs within the borough of Merthyr!!! You will notice on the list that I was the lowest paid and that was because I refused to accept any pay raise during my term and was the only one who paid for my own attendance at functions.

Work out the wage you would get compared to the hours you would put in and its not even minimum wage FFS!!!

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Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

:lol: Yes I agree. Plaid is left wing. Adam Brown is more right wing than Hitler. Not even the Nazi's wanted to starve excess children.

Personal responsibility

I totally agree with you. For instance Merthyr was the working capital of the world. Everyone had a job and people came from all over the world to work there. That was until the people who run our country fucked it all up. Where's their personal responsibility? When I f**k things up I take responsibility for it, what I don't do is turn my back, walk away and blame the people I screwed over.

Here's an idea. Why not block the fat cat bonuses for just one year. Then use that money to create some jobs in Merthyr. It's no good sticking people on the dole and then whinging about benefits. Return the jobs to Merthyr and I'll be the first to cut their money. Fact is Adam you are a typical British politician. Very good at pointing fingers and blaming others for the mess politicians create. But not very good at doing anything positive.

He quoted Iran Duncan smith but never had a reply about the same man cutting disablelty,other benefits
But gave his cronies in Whitehall bonuses totalling 44 million,like you said typical politian

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Nothing wrong with work

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Nothing wrong with work

So you had four full time jobs on the go

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Nothing wrong with work

So you had four full time jobs on the go

no 3

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Nothing wrong with work

So you had four full time jobs on the go

no 3

Three full time jobs,8 hours per day = 24 hours over 7 days = 168. f**k me Adam your superman. I was wrong you would make a good politician,don't live in the real world

Fair play to Adam mind, he did have four full time jobs at the same time once, mind you some people would say that kept three others out of work and sponging benefits.

Oh yes Gwyn, I forgot about the four full time jobs he had which meant he only had time for 8 hours sleep per week (that is of course if he never eat, washed or shit during that week). Perhaps that's why he's so angry, hungry, smelly and full of shit.

Nothing wrong with work

So you had four full time jobs on the go

no 3

Three full time jobs,8 hours per day = 24 hours over 7 days = 168. f**k me Adam your superman. I was wrong you would make a good politician,don't live in the real world

two of them were flexible hours and one was 4 nights per week and a 4 on 4 off basis. One of the flexible was a taxi driver which I could work around anything and the other was a Councillor.

I've now gotone job but its not uncommon for me to do 18-20 hours per day and thats 7 days per week.

Work pays and offers yourself and your family a better life. Is that so hard for many on here to understand..?

"No I agree 11 kids is a bit mad cant say I would consider having that many myself but that point is now irrelevant, these children now exist, they are British citizens and by that right should be protected by the state and child benefit is always given to the mother.

So my question which of these 11 kids or the ones under working age should go without to alleviate the outrage of £900 a week benefits, or which ones or how many would you let starve?"

JONNY012697


900 quid a week! I could feed several families with that amount of cash, probably a small town but then I was brought up not to scrounge. I suggest that whilst you may well be a CCMB lefty sent in on some homework or other; I apologies if I'm wrong, but I'd estimate your age at 13, 14?

I note that you mention British Citizens; I can't access the programme where I am so haven't seen it, a hint of PC shite perhaps?

so you dont agree with what I say fine

why are you calling me a CCMB lefty?

why do you think im 13, 14?

whats wrong with the term British Citizen?

go away

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind.

"No I agree 11 kids is a bit mad cant say I would consider having that many myself but that point is now irrelevant, these children now exist, they are British citizens and by that right should be protected by the state and child benefit is always given to the mother.

So my question which of these 11 kids or the ones under working age should go without to alleviate the outrage of £900 a week benefits, or which ones or how many would you let starve?"

JONNY012697


900 quid a week! I could feed several families with that amount of cash, probably a small town but then I was brought up not to scrounge. I suggest that whilst you may well be a CCMB lefty sent in on some homework or other; I apologies if I'm wrong, but I'd estimate your age at 13, 14?

I note that you mention British Citizens; I can't access the programme where I am so haven't seen it, a hint of PC shite perhaps?

so you dont agree with what I say fine

why are you calling me a CCMB lefty?

why do you think im 13, 14?

whats wrong with the term British Citizen?

go away

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind.

simple fact you cant answer my question or are not brave enough to answer it, instead you attack me in a pathetic attempt to change the subject and you have the gall to call me child

PATHETIC