The rebrand. An alternative viewpoint.

It's very bizarre James.. I have no problem with people who are quite happy with the rebrand.. Whilst I can't fathom it myself, everyone is entitled to a view..

But Barnett's opinion changes weekly... On everything! It's obviously deliberate, which is a shame as when he posts properly, he can actually rather an interesting poster.

Absolutely, he's on about going back to support BU if they revert to a more elitism form of protest now

I just stayed out of this one, fed up of arguing the same point like a broken record

I just stayed out of this one, fed up of arguing the same point like a broken record

If Chuckles thought in this manner then people like myself wouldn't insist on winding him up back. He ruins good threads, this one being a perfect example, and then cries when you go out of your own way to annoy the shit out of him.

Success on my part. Already he's crying in this thread now because of my posts.

I know you're probably on a wind up and think you're well funny, but most of us think you're just a bellend

Im only winding up Chuckles who derailed a good thread. He hates it when its done to him and he's ruined a quality thread from Polo here. If he's going to insist on being an arse hole then its only fair that people treat him in the same manner.

Where have I derailed the thread? I just gave my opinion on it. Jinks was the one who started derailing it with insults.

Oh god lets not start this again on what had to be one of the best threads in ages!!

Where have I derailed the thread? I just gave my opinion on it. Jinks was the one who started derailing it with insults.

Always the victim. Its never your fault.

Same old Barry Chuckles.

I know you're probably on a wind up and think you're well funny, but most of us think you're just a bellend

Im only winding up Chuckles who derailed a good thread. He hates it when its done to him and he's ruined a quality thread from Polo here. If he's going to insist on being an arse hole then its only fair that people treat him in the same manner.

Fair enough, as much as I agree with a lot of what he says about Blue etc, I don't even read his posts no more, he's worse than any woman I've ever met when it comes to winning an argument, and that's saying something

Where have I derailed the thread? I just gave my opinion on it. Jinks was the one who started derailing it with insults.

Always the victim. Its never your fault.

Same old Barry Chuckles.

Please stop derailing the thread with your trolling.

Fair enough, as much as I agree with a lot of what he says about Blue etc, I don't even read his posts no more, he's worse than any woman I've ever met when it comes to winning an argument, and that's saying something

Mate, we all want blue back, except for the very young ones who know no better, but we all also know there's no point in continuing to harp on about it because Tan owns the club and is doing what he wants. Chuckles continues to harp on about it without giving up and derails quality threads then makes out others like Jinks or troobloo are doing exactly that and not him.

We know his frigging opinion and don't need to read it every third post of every thread on every day.

Until he gives in I will continue to do my utmost to annoy the crap out of him as he does to me and other posters on this messageboard.

I for one, have not come across any person who would prefer red, and I know loads of City fans, but most of them don't continue beating on the drum all day long because they have a life outside of Cardiff City to be getting on with.

Please stop derailing the thread with your trolling.

You already derailed it hence me logging back in to annoy you and that's how it will stay until you stop derailing threads whether its on this account or another, I will continue to twist things until you stop spouting your annoying rhetoric and ruining perfectly good threads like this one.

Polo made an extremely valid point yet you went on your usual tirade of crap which made the thread again, as usual, terrible to read in the latter pages. You would make an excellent politician because you have a true skill of twisting things and you are boring as anyone I have ever come across.

Again Chuckles, you are of course the victim who does no wrong. We get it.

No I haven't, I just posted my opinion on the topic - many others agreed with me.. Yet I don't see you moaning about them?

Well, if people will be abusive because of a differing opinion, that's what I would call trolling.

I guess that means that you're back again then? After your dramatic goodbye the other day.

No I haven't, I just posted my opinion on the topic - many others agreed with me.. Yet I don't see you moaning about them?

Well, if people will be abusive because of a differing opinion, that's what I would call trolling.

I guess that means that you're back again then? After your dramatic goodbye the other day.

Link???

No I haven't, I just posted my opinion on the topic - many others agreed with me.. Yet I don't see you moaning about them?

Well, if people will be abusive because of a differing opinion, that's what I would call trolling.

I guess that means that you're back again then? After your dramatic goodbye the other day.

Link???

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It's about his 10th dramatic "I'm leaving" post.

What a solider.

I guess that means that you're back again then? After your dramatic goodbye the other day.

You derail threads with your opinion. We know your opinion Barry. Why do you post it in almost every single thread on the forum? Why are you trying to brainwash people into believing what you believe by posting it all the time? Its pathetic.

I was only going to read the forum but you made that a chore because of your derailing threads so every time you derail a thread now I will come back and post on that particular thread.

If a thread stays clear of your shit, it stays clear of my posts as well. Quite simple. You have the power to either ruin the forum with your shit followed up by my equally annoying shit or have the power to spare people your repeated opinion and my posts that follow.

Call it trolling. I call it getting the forum train you keep derailing back on track.

As you were.

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It's about his 10th dramatic "I'm leaving" post.

What a solider.

When people sign out they can't put people like yourself on ignore. You make the forum almost impossible to read. Even Roathie posts in a lot of threads but at least his posts are articulately put across and make sense. You ruin every thread posting the same boring shit. Its boring because we already know your opinion.

Your posts are 'BUT TAN MADE US RED, HE IS THE REASON FOR THE FAN BASE SPLIT WAH WAH WAH POOR ME, HE TOOK OUR IDENTITY AND MY LIFE AWAY, I CANT SLEEP OH DEAR TAN CHANGE US BACK TO BLUE OUR RIGHTFUL COLOUR. IF YOU DONT FOLLOW BLUEBIRDS UNITE GROUP OF ANGELS WHO DO NO WRONG YOU ARE WRONG'.

No one cares Chuckles. We've heard it like 9.4 million times.

I guess that means that you're back again then? After your dramatic goodbye the other day.

You derail threads with your opinion. We know your opinion Barry. Why do you post it in almost every single thread on the forum? Why are you trying to brainwash people into believing what you believe by posting it all the time? Its pathetic.

I was only going to read the forum but you made that a chore because of your derailing threads so every time you derail a thread now I will come back and post on that particular thread.

If a thread stays clear of your shit, it stays clear of my posts as well. Quite simple. You have the power to either ruin the forum with your shit followed up by my equally annoying shit or have the power to spare people your repeated opinion and my posts that follow.

Call it trolling. I call it getting the forum train you keep derailing back on track.
sorry i cant see where barry as derailed this thread,the post is about rebrand an barry is against it
everyone is entitled to opinion
As you were.

sorry i cant see where barry as derailed this thread,the post is about rebrand an barry is against it
everyone is entitled to opinion

Every day Barry has been on the forum since the rebrand he has posted his opinion at least once. Why does he post it repeatedly every single day? Barry Chuckles timeline on the forum

Day 1: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 2: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 3: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 4: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 5: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 6: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 7: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 8: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 9: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 10: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 11: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 12: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 13: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 14: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 15: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue

and so on.......

We get his opinion so why does he repeat it all the time?

sorry i cant see where barry as derailed this thread,the post is about rebrand an barry is against it
everyone is entitled to opinion

Every day Barry has been on the forum since the rebrand he has posted his opinion at least once. Why does he post it repeatedly every single day? Barry Chuckles timeline on the forum

Day 1: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 2: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 3: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 4: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 5: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 6: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 7: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 8: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 9: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 10: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 11: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 12: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 13: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 14: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue
Day 15: Tan took our identity and history and we should be playing in blue

and so on.......

We get his opinion so why does he repeat it all the time?

because other people put up threads about the rebrand,he is entitled to respond
just like you are entitled to change your mind constantly about the rebrand.
what i think derails threads is you two acting childish and goading each other.
you both got differrent opinions live with it

Another quality thread destroyed by pointless bickering

Well done

As much as red is alien to me and i dont think I will ever be able to embrace it because in my 22 years following City, 21 of them have been in blue, I got talking to a new fan last night, a husband of one of my wifes mates, and it helped me see things from a different perspective. The next generations perspective.

Up until recently this guy never realy followed anyone in particular but hes got plenty of money so used to hire a corporate day a few times a season to watch Man u aty Old Trafford. His son, now 11, wanted to start watching football a few years ago so he started bringing him down the City.

His son got the bug, and they have been season ticket holders for the last 3 years. They went to their first away game Saturday, at Fulham, and his son is buzzing and the guy couldnt believe what an experience it was.

Now I remember this experience, it is what I had when i was 15 and went to my first City game, which happened to be an away game, and Im sure everyone has their own story, and own point when they got that buzz for their football team.

To this guy, and especially his son, the colour blue doesnt mean an awful lot, and why should it? Everyone has got to start somewhere, and whilst some may call this guy and his son a plastic I would say they, well his son certainly, are the next generation.

10 years ago I have no doubt this kid would have been a Liverpool or Man supporter so do we look upon this 11 year old kid, in his red Cardiff top as a sell out, plastic, whatever you want to call anyone who doesnt want the fight for blue or do we look on it as Cardiff evolving and weve gained new fans, and more importantly the next generation of fans?

Don't disagree with any of that , doesn't make the rebrand right though . Cardiff city play in blue and are called the bluebirds .

No wonder this forum has gone extremely quiet recently.

Blame Roathie all you want mods but the real reason people aren't posting anymore lies a lot closer to home. Like the two moronic children arguing in this thread.

As much as red is alien to me and i dont think I will ever be able to embrace it because in my 22 years following City, 21 of them have been in blue, I got talking to a new fan last night, a husband of one of my wifes mates, and it helped me see things from a different perspective. The next generations perspective.

Up until recently this guy never realy followed anyone in particular but hes got plenty of money so used to hire a corporate day a few times a season to watch Man u aty Old Trafford. His son, now 11, wanted to start watching football a few years ago so he started bringing him down the City.

His son got the bug, and they have been season ticket holders for the last 3 years. They went to their first away game Saturday, at Fulham, and his son is buzzing and the guy couldnt believe what an experience it was.

Now I remember this experience, it is what I had when i was 15 and went to my first City game, which happened to be an away game, and Im sure everyone has their own story, and own point when they got that buzz for their football team.

To this guy, and especially his son, the colour blue doesnt mean an awful lot, and why should it? Everyone has got to start somewhere, and whilst some may call this guy and his son a plastic I would say they, well his son certainly, are the next generation.

10 years ago I have no doubt this kid would have been a Liverpool or Man supporter so do we look upon this 11 year old kid, in his red Cardiff top as a sell out, plastic, whatever you want to call anyone who doesnt want the fight for blue or do we look on it as Cardiff evolving and weve gained new fans, and more importantly the next generation of fans?

Are they new supporters or perhaps customers who've decided the current product is to their liking?

I wonder if they'll be as enthusiastic if CCFC tumble down instead of rising up? This area is renown for the fickleness of its sporting fans and their ability to show up to watch a successful team. Also for buggering off when they're shit.

As much as red is alien to me and i dont think I will ever be able to embrace it because in my 22 years following City, 21 of them have been in blue, I got talking to a new fan last night, a husband of one of my wifes mates, and it helped me see things from a different perspective. The next generations perspective.

Up until recently this guy never realy followed anyone in particular but hes got plenty of money so used to hire a corporate day a few times a season to watch Man u aty Old Trafford. His son, now 11, wanted to start watching football a few years ago so he started bringing him down the City.

His son got the bug, and they have been season ticket holders for the last 3 years. They went to their first away game Saturday, at Fulham, and his son is buzzing and the guy couldnt believe what an experience it was.

Now I remember this experience, it is what I had when i was 15 and went to my first City game, which happened to be an away game, and Im sure everyone has their own story, and own point when they got that buzz for their football team.

To this guy, and especially his son, the colour blue doesnt mean an awful lot, and why should it? Everyone has got to start somewhere, and whilst some may call this guy and his son a plastic I would say they, well his son certainly, are the next generation.

10 years ago I have no doubt this kid would have been a Liverpool or Man supporter so do we look upon this 11 year old kid, in his red Cardiff top as a sell out, plastic, whatever you want to call anyone who doesnt want the fight for blue or do we look on it as Cardiff evolving and weve gained new fans, and more importantly the next generation of fans?

Are they new supporters or perhaps customers who've decided the current product is to their liking?

I wonder if they'll be as enthusiastic if CCFC tumble down instead of rising up? This area is renown for the fickleness of its sporting fans and their ability to show up to watch a successful team. Also for buggering off when they're shit.

He states his son wanted to start watcing football so his dad took him down his local club? Sounds like a proper fan to me, he has a bit of money so he could afford to take him to OT if he wished. Maybe his dad isn't all that keen on football. I know a dad of two boys who are under 10, he f*cking hates football always has done but his kids love it. He can't wait until his kids are old enough to go themselves so he can spend his weekends gardening.

If he I had enough cash behind me id go coperate at old Trafford if the City weren't playing. No different to going to the Nou camp or Bernabeu. Perfect way to woo some clients.

As much as red is alien to me and i dont think I will ever be able to embrace it because in my 22 years following City, 21 of them have been in blue, I got talking to a new fan last night, a husband of one of my wifes mates, and it helped me see things from a different perspective. The next generations perspective.

Up until recently this guy never realy followed anyone in particular but hes got plenty of money so used to hire a corporate day a few times a season to watch Man u aty Old Trafford. His son, now 11, wanted to start watching football a few years ago so he started bringing him down the City.

His son got the bug, and they have been season ticket holders for the last 3 years. They went to their first away game Saturday, at Fulham, and his son is buzzing and the guy couldnt believe what an experience it was.

Now I remember this experience, it is what I had when i was 15 and went to my first City game, which happened to be an away game, and Im sure everyone has their own story, and own point when they got that buzz for their football team.

To this guy, and especially his son, the colour blue doesnt mean an awful lot, and why should it? Everyone has got to start somewhere, and whilst some may call this guy and his son a plastic I would say they, well his son certainly, are the next generation.

10 years ago I have no doubt this kid would have been a Liverpool or Man supporter so do we look upon this 11 year old kid, in his red Cardiff top as a sell out, plastic, whatever you want to call anyone who doesnt want the fight for blue or do we look on it as Cardiff evolving and weve gained new fans, and more importantly the next generation of fans?

Are they new supporters or perhaps customers who've decided the current product is to their liking?

I wonder if they'll be as enthusiastic if CCFC tumble down instead of rising up? This area is renown for the fickleness of its sporting fans and their ability to show up to watch a successful team. Also for buggering off when they're shit.

like it or not we're all customers,success always brings more fans through the turnstile that's the way it is.
Its not just Cardiff that has fickle fans,its the same everywhere.a poor team brings poor crowds we're no different to anyone else.

The oldman is slowly being brain washed to becomming a red after all these years of being one of the last standing oldguard, many would be spinning in there graves over such posts

As much as red is alien to me and i dont think I will ever be able to embrace it because in my 22 years following City, 21 of them have been in blue, I got talking to a new fan last night, a husband of one of my wifes mates, and it helped me see things from a different perspective. The next generations perspective.

Up until recently this guy never realy followed anyone in particular but hes got plenty of money so used to hire a corporate day a few times a season to watch Man u aty Old Trafford. His son, now 11, wanted to start watching football a few years ago so he started bringing him down the City.

His son got the bug, and they have been season ticket holders for the last 3 years. They went to their first away game Saturday, at Fulham, and his son is buzzing and the guy couldnt believe what an experience it was.

Now I remember this experience, it is what I had when i was 15 and went to my first City game, which happened to be an away game, and Im sure everyone has their own story, and own point when they got that buzz for their football team.

To this guy, and especially his son, the colour blue doesnt mean an awful lot, and why should it? Everyone has got to start somewhere, and whilst some may call this guy and his son a plastic I would say they, well his son certainly, are the next generation.

10 years ago I have no doubt this kid would have been a Liverpool or Man supporter so do we look upon this 11 year old kid, in his red Cardiff top as a sell out, plastic, whatever you want to call anyone who doesnt want the fight for blue or do we look on it as Cardiff evolving and weve gained new fans, and more importantly the next generation of fans?

Are they new supporters or perhaps customers who've decided the current product is to their liking?

I wonder if they'll be as enthusiastic if CCFC tumble down instead of rising up? This area is renown for the fickleness of its sporting fans and their ability to show up to watch a successful team. Also for buggering off when they're shit.

He states his son wanted to start watcing football so his dad took him down his local club? Sounds like a proper fan to me, he has a bit of money so he could afford to take him to OT if he wished. Maybe his dad isn't all that keen on football. I know a dad of two boys who are under 10, he f*cking hates football always has done but his kids love it. He can't wait until his kids are old enough to go themselves so he can spend his weekends gardening.

If he I had enough cash behind me id go coperate at old Trafford if the City weren't playing. No different to going to the Nou camp or Bernabeu. Perfect way to woo some clients.

I'm not judging them, just asking the question. The clubs an attractive product with a raised profile. Continued paying customers means the product needs to maintain its current demand value or enhance the product. I'm wondering if CCFC will be just as in demand if the unthinkable happened?

As a Bluebird since 48, you'd have witnessed the fickleness of the clubs support or do you think that if CCFC go down a few divisions 27000+ will still turn up at the match?

Well how far down the leagues do you have to go before you are considered a supporter rather than a customer?

Thank you Vincent Tan.

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Talk about changing your mind!

JB really needs to decide what he wants and stick to it.
What is happening with this "Ninian Stand" of yours then Barnett?
Is it still going strong?

I have only heard of your amazing group this once whilst Bluebirds Unite are heard of all day... Quite a hard job to work your arse off all week whilst trying to juggle something as big as this ey?

As much as red is alien to me and i dont think I will ever be able to embrace it because in my 22 years following City, 21 of them have been in blue, I got talking to a new fan last night, a husband of one of my wifes mates, and it helped me see things from a different perspective. The next generations perspective.

Up until recently this guy never realy followed anyone in particular but hes got plenty of money so used to hire a corporate day a few times a season to watch Man u aty Old Trafford. His son, now 11, wanted to start watching football a few years ago so he started bringing him down the City.

His son got the bug, and they have been season ticket holders for the last 3 years. They went to their first away game Saturday, at Fulham, and his son is buzzing and the guy couldnt believe what an experience it was.

Now I remember this experience, it is what I had when i was 15 and went to my first City game, which happened to be an away game, and Im sure everyone has their own story, and own point when they got that buzz for their football team.

To this guy, and especially his son, the colour blue doesnt mean an awful lot, and why should it? Everyone has got to start somewhere, and whilst some may call this guy and his son a plastic I would say they, well his son certainly, are the next generation.

10 years ago I have no doubt this kid would have been a Liverpool or Man supporter so do we look upon this 11 year old kid, in his red Cardiff top as a sell out, plastic, whatever you want to call anyone who doesnt want the fight for blue or do we look on it as Cardiff evolving and weve gained new fans, and more importantly the next generation of fans?

Are they new supporters or perhaps customers who've decided the current product is to their liking?

I wonder if they'll be as enthusiastic if CCFC tumble down instead of rising up? This area is renown for the fickleness of its sporting fans and their ability to show up to watch a successful team. Also for buggering off when they're shit.

Good point. I was working in Swansea the year they went up, and all I kept hearing was the "real fans" slating the new plastics because they were now a PL club.
But then they want to brag about attendance records and away support. Without these new fans the stadiums wouldn't sell out every week, and nobody could boast about having 25,26 or 27k home support.

Swings and roundabouts

Well how far down the leagues do you have to go before you are considered a supporter rather than a customer?

I'll emphasise that I'm not judging anyone, but pointing out that some of the new supporters/customers may feel there's a better place to be if City returned to the dark days.

Simply City are attractive to the paying public at this moment due to being successful. The rebrand is not really a factor. If City start going down they'd bugger off immaterial if they're red or blue.

That's the way football is.

Excellent post Polo.
I'm in the same bracket..3rd year full season ticket holder and get to see 5-6 aways each year. I love it! Didn't take long to get the bug and consider myself as much of a supporter as the next person to me.