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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:39 pm

Magadan wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
nigvaughn wrote:Obsessed.


Its been that way since i first joined here a few years ago. People love to discuss roathie, all because i have a footballing opinion too. Flattering i suppose.



very rarely do you voice a footballing opinion


Very rarely, if ever, do i voice anything but.

That much is obvious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:44 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:It's known as Vb and i you went into any bar in australia, they would also known what you mean. the logo also backs this up ( Australia cricket team sponsor). I just don't believe a word that comes out of your mouth I'm afraid, I guess you know why that is. Regardless of his size, I feel he will flip this season I'm afraid. Whereas odenwingie with his knowledge of the pl and a new lease of life will I feel prove to be an astute signing


Victoria bitter from my experience is more prevalent in Victoria believe it or not. I dont turn into a cricket loving aussie just because ive lived here a year you know :lol: The main beer in Queensland is XXXX gold. VB (not vbs) was everywhere when i was in melbourne for the aussie open in jan. not that i drink that much anyway. I dont care what you believe or why you dont believe (and no i dont know by the way) i have posted many pictures of my surroundings here. In fact for a special treat i will go outside (even though its raining) and take a pic of my queensland licence plate with a dedicated message inclusing your username if you like? Up to you.

And as for odemwingie, im glad you are happy with the signing. Ive never asked you to be anything else.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:47 pm

SL69 wrote:4 mil in the papers tiger.
Evening post .
:thumbup:


Evening post :lol: their as bitter of Cardiff as you are :laughing6: as full of deluded shit too :laughing6:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:52 pm

Got my hair wet and everything you rogue doubting thomas :lol:
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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:52 pm

1/3 goals in the premiership for 2.25 million. Experienced too. You were critical of us signing a striker with no prem experience (even though you spent more on Bony, who has been poor in my eyes) and then when we buy a striker with 1/3 goals pers game ratio and prem experience, you're still critical.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:54 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:1/3 goals in the premiership for 2.25 million. Experienced too. You were critical of us signing a striker with no prem experience (even though you spent more on Bony, who has been poor in my eyes) and then when we buy a striker with 1/3 goals pers game ratio and prem experience, you're still critical.


Me?

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:58 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:It's known as Vb and i you went into any bar in australia, they would also known what you mean. the logo also backs this up ( Australia cricket team sponsor). I just don't believe a word that comes out of your mouth I'm afraid, I guess you know why that is. Regardless of his size, I feel he will flip this season I'm afraid. Whereas odenwingie with his knowledge of the pl and a new lease of life will I feel prove to be an astute signing


Victoria bitter from my experience is more prevalent in Victoria believe it or not. I dont turn into a cricket loving aussie just because ive lived here a year you know :lol: The main beer in Queensland is XXXX gold. VB (not vbs) was everywhere when i was in melbourne for the aussie open in jan. not that i drink that much anyway. I dont care what you believe or why you dont believe (and no i dont know by the way) i have posted many pictures of my surroundings here. In fact for a special treat i will go outside (even though its raining) and take a pic of my queensland licence plate with a dedicated message inclusing your username if you like? Up to you.

And as for odemwingie, im glad you are happy with the signing. Ive never asked you to be anything else.


Vbs yes, the plural of VB. no I don't believe you I'm afraid of anything that comes out of your mouth, the amount of user names, personas you have done on here, it's easy to see why you're ridiculed.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:04 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Vbs yes, the plural of VB. no I don't believe you I'm afraid of anything that comes out of your mouth, the amount of user names, personas you have done on here, it's easy to see why you're ridiculed.


The plural of bitter is bitters, it would still be VB and not vbs although i probably wouldnt have known what you were talking about if you had said either, i havent turned into a bitter drinking cricket loving aussie just as i wasnt a carling drinking fpdarts fan back in the UK :lol:

I have different usernames because i get banned for talking football, not to be decietful.

Ive just pisted a pic of my licence plate with your name on, if you dont believe me then you are one paranoid individual ideed :lol:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:09 pm

Magadan wrote:
AndoverBlue wrote:We pay 2.5 million upfront, then if he meets the criteria- presumably appearance based- we pay 4 million. So the deal is currently worth 2.5 million with the potential to be 4 million. Do you understand that you strange little jack?


Stop presuming would be my advice.

The deal is worth £4m, this is a fact. How much you will have to oay if that however is down to him and the team. In reality it will probably be based on appearances or staying up as they seem to be the main clauses when dealing with a newly promoted club. Appearances and survival in no way indicate the value of a player.

No. The deal is worth in the region of 2.5 million, potentially rising to 4 million. I agree with your point about survival and appearances not showing what he's worth but if he helps keep us up in those appearances then the extra 1.5 million is a drop in the ocean. Also Malky would most likely have the add-ons based partially on goals and assists, as well as appearances and survival

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:14 pm

AndoverBlue wrote:
Magadan wrote:
AndoverBlue wrote:We pay 2.5 million upfront, then if he meets the criteria- presumably appearance based- we pay 4 million. So the deal is currently worth 2.5 million with the potential to be 4 million. Do you understand that you strange little jack?


Stop presuming would be my advice.

The deal is worth £4m, this is a fact. How much you will have to oay if that however is down to him and the team. In reality it will probably be based on appearances or staying up as they seem to be the main clauses when dealing with a newly promoted club. Appearances and survival in no way indicate the value of a player.

No. The deal is worth in the region of 2.5 million, potentially rising to 4 million. I agree with your point about survival and appearances not showing what he's worth but if he helps keep us up in those appearances then the extra 1.5 million is a drop in the ocean. Also Malky would most likely have the add-ons based partially on goals and assists, as well as appearances and survival


Its not. The deal is worth £4m. Just as a player who signs on a 1 year contract, 10k a week (split 50:50 in terms if base salary and app fee) has signed a contract worth 520k. He may not earn all of that however but in terms of wage budgets etc the full sum will be the figure taken into consideration.

If he makes a major contribution to your survival then i agree he was a good buy. I just dont think he will be.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:17 pm

That's fair enough. I happen to disagree.

I feel that Bony will be a massive waste of money for you, certainly from what I've seen of him so far.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:18 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Vbs yes, the plural of VB. no I don't believe you I'm afraid of anything that comes out of your mouth, the amount of user names, personas you have done on here, it's easy to see why you're ridiculed.


The plural of bitter is bitters, it would still be VB and not vbs although i probably wouldnt have known what you were talking about if you had said either, i havent turned into a bitter drinking cricket loving aussie just as i wasnt a carling drinking fpdarts fan back in the UK :lol:

I have different usernames because i get banned for talking football, not to be decietful.

Ive just pisted a pic of my licence plate with your name on, if you dont believe me then you are one paranoid individual ideed :lol:



You lie all the time though. Even the other day on one of your user names you said you were going down to watch them against united even though you are in Australia? Why lie :?

I have nothing to be paranoid about, I just don't get the lies. Be truthful and speak without looking for bites then I'm sure you will be accepted, just like the jacks currently on here. Yes I am aware that the plural of bitter is bitters, I'm just using it in the context it was used when I have heard it said.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:22 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Vbs yes, the plural of VB. no I don't believe you I'm afraid of anything that comes out of your mouth, the amount of user names, personas you have done on here, it's easy to see why you're ridiculed.


The plural of bitter is bitters, it would still be VB and not vbs although i probably wouldnt have known what you were talking about if you had said either, i havent turned into a bitter drinking cricket loving aussie just as i wasnt a carling drinking fpdarts fan back in the UK :lol:

I have different usernames because i get banned for talking football, not to be decietful.

Ive just pisted a pic of my licence plate with your name on, if you dont believe me then you are one paranoid individual ideed :lol:



You lie all the time though. Even the other day on one of your user names you said you were going down to watch them against united even though you are in Australia? Why lie :?

thats not true in the slightest. Where did i say that? Your issue (and others presumably) is you think every new poster is me. Nothing i can do about that.

I have nothing to be paranoid about, I just don't get the lies. Be truthful and speak without looking for bites then I'm sure you will be accepted, just like the jacks currently on here. Yes I am aware that the plural of bitter is bitters, I'm just using it in the context it was used when I have heard it said.

i dont lie, as ive explained. The only times i have lied is when ive had to create a persona in order to avoid the roathie hunting which goes on a daily basis. But thats to maintain my freedom of speech not to decieve for malicious purposes.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:24 pm

Its a privately owned messageboard. Freedom of speech is at Annis' discretion.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:29 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:That's fair enough. I happen to disagree.

I feel that Bony will be a massive waste of money for you, certainly from what I've seen of him so far.



Thats ok. Its football, we are allowed to have differing opinions. However Bony is doing a good job in scoring goals. 2 in 3 in europe and 1 in less than a game and a half in the prem. far too early to judge but far more positives than negatives.
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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:30 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Its a privately owned messageboard. Freedom of speech is at Annis' discretion.


Annis has told me many times he doesnt mind me and in fact likes my posts however there are 3 mods that dislike me. I will continue to post.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:34 pm

See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:37 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.


I am on here most days. I rarely make a secret of it.

Genuinelly interested however, who are you assuming was me? I can categorically tell you i never said i was going to the game. Thats just nonsense im afraid. You have no evidence when pointing the accusations yet happy to assume you are correct anyway. Im afraid what you do is out of my control.

What i will say however is look at what this thread has turned into, and look at all ive been saying. The deal is worth £4m (whoch it obviously is) and you have then seen fot to personally abuse me and defame my character. Yet im the one who is apparently doing wrong..

Just dont get it im afriad. But definately quote who you think was me and what i said, i was good enough to take a pic to take away your reservations afterall.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:44 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.


I am on here most days. I rarely make a secret of it.

Genuinelly interested however, who are you assuming was me? I can categorically tell you i never said i was going to the game. Thats just nonsense im afraid. You have no evidence when pointing the accusations yet happy to assume you are correct anyway. Im afraid what you do is out of my control.

What i will say however is look at what this thread has turned into, and look at all ive been saying. The deal is worth £4m (whoch it obviously is) and you have then seen fot to personally abuse me and defame my character. Yet im the one who is apparently doing wrong..

Just dont get it im afriad. But definately quote who you think was me and what i said, i was good enough to take a pic to take away your reservations afterall.


I'm not denying you are where you are, I've just seen so many personas of you now i just don't believe a word you say. Simple as that really. I'm not going through posts because to be honest I can't be bothered searching for all your personas, yes there's that many. Just be yourself and stop giving people ammo to question you all the time because let's be honest, you have brought all this on yourself.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:45 pm

Magadan wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Its a privately owned messageboard. Freedom of speech is at Annis' discretion.


Annis has told me many times he doesnt mind me and in fact likes my posts however there are 3 mods that dislike me. I will continue to post.


Post away, makes no difference to me. Just pointing out that there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:49 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.


I am on here most days. I rarely make a secret of it.

Genuinelly interested however, who are you assuming was me? I can categorically tell you i never said i was going to the game. Thats just nonsense im afraid. You have no evidence when pointing the accusations yet happy to assume you are correct anyway. Im afraid what you do is out of my control.

What i will say however is look at what this thread has turned into, and look at all ive been saying. The deal is worth £4m (whoch it obviously is) and you have then seen fot to personally abuse me and defame my character. Yet im the one who is apparently doing wrong..

Just dont get it im afriad. But definately quote who you think was me and what i said, i was good enough to take a pic to take away your reservations afterall.


I'm not denying you are where you are, I've just seen so many personas of you now i just don't believe a word you say. Simple as that really. I'm not going through posts because to be honest I can't be bothered searching for all your personas, yes there's that many. Just be yourself and stop giving people ammo to question you all the time because let's be honest, you have brought all this on yourself.


I have loads of usernames, granted. But thats because i keep getting banned for nothing. If i be myself then i get banned as the mods dont like me. Its common sense that i must use a persona. However when i do i only ever have one and thats a cardiff fan but my opinions are always the same as if im posting as me or as a cardiff fan - it makes no difference. But you are categorically incorrect to say i said i was at the man utd match i have no reason to say otherwise.

The amount of posters ive seen accused of being me is staggering and the amount which have been banned im sure is equally as astounding.

I dont know how you think ive brought anything on myself. Im simply posting my opinions on a football message board very politely and nicely. If i get banned for it then i sign up again and continue, if i continue to get banned then i dont admit to being me. All common sense.

I requested my username and to post as myself, this was accepted for a few days and then i won a debate and got banned again. Im afriad that is not an option. My usernames these days are very much one day things unfortunately for the forum.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:54 pm

i can see them all getting worried. all they seem to be doing lately is talking about us. so many jacks coming on this forum, i see plants shit isn't good enough for them or the shitty side :lol:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:57 pm

Swansea was prepared to pay the same us and he chose us. Done.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:59 pm

Mogadon.
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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:00 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Swansea was prepared to pay the same us and he chose us. Done.


Thats just words though isnt it, it doesnt make it true.

There is no way we would agree to a deal worth £4m for odemwingie. The daily mail (which the fans leader city gent says has all the best contacts and are spot on regarding cardiff transfers) reported as much. Odemwingie wanted the move to Swansea, we wouldnt pay the fee WBA wanted and so he went to you.
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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:02 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.


I am on here most days. I rarely make a secret of it.

Genuinelly interested however, who are you assuming was me? I can categorically tell you i never said i was going to the game. Thats just nonsense im afraid. You have no evidence when pointing the accusations yet happy to assume you are correct anyway. Im afraid what you do is out of my control.

What i will say however is look at what this thread has turned into, and look at all ive been saying. The deal is worth £4m (whoch it obviously is) and you have then seen fot to personally abuse me and defame my character. Yet im the one who is apparently doing wrong..

Just dont get it im afriad. But definately quote who you think was me and what i said, i was good enough to take a pic to take away your reservations afterall.


I'm not denying you are where you are, I've just seen so many personas of you now i just don't believe a word you say. Simple as that really. I'm not going through posts because to be honest I can't be bothered searching for all your personas, yes there's that many. Just be yourself and stop giving people ammo to question you all the time because let's be honest, you have brought all this on yourself.


I have loads of usernames, granted. But thats because i keep getting banned for nothing. If i be myself then i get banned as the mods dont like me. Its common sense that i must use a persona. However when i do i only ever have one and thats a cardiff fan but my opinions are always the same as if im posting as me or as a cardiff fan - it makes no difference. But you are categorically incorrect to say i said i was at the man utd match i have no reason to say otherwise.

The amount of posters ive seen accused of being me is staggering and the amount whi have been banned im sure is equally as astounding.

I dont know how you think ive brought anything on myself. Im simply posting my opinions on a football message board very politely and nicely. If i get banned for it then i sign up again and continue, if i continue to get banned then i dont admit to being me. All common sense.

I requested my username and to post as myself, this was accepted for a few days and then i won a debate and got banned again. Im afriad that is not an option. My usernames these days are very much one day things unfortunately for the forum.


If that's what you want to think. I'm just saying what I can see from my point of view. From what I can see, you come on here looking for bites, I don't know why, maybe you get a kick I don't know. Then you bring another user name in acting relatively normal. I just don't get it. I know you'll pretend that it's not you, but you're just so easy to spot from my point of view. I admit some of your points are good and thought out, but if someone disagrees with you and prove you wrong which does happen. You get very selective with your arguments, hence why you irritate people. Maybe that's your personality, a stubborn individual. But even you can be wrong at times like anyone on here.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:06 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.


I am on here most days. I rarely make a secret of it.

Genuinelly interested however, who are you assuming was me? I can categorically tell you i never said i was going to the game. Thats just nonsense im afraid. You have no evidence when pointing the accusations yet happy to assume you are correct anyway. Im afraid what you do is out of my control.

What i will say however is look at what this thread has turned into, and look at all ive been saying. The deal is worth £4m (whoch it obviously is) and you have then seen fot to personally abuse me and defame my character. Yet im the one who is apparently doing wrong..

Just dont get it im afriad. But definately quote who you think was me and what i said, i was good enough to take a pic to take away your reservations afterall.


I'm not denying you are where you are, I've just seen so many personas of you now i just don't believe a word you say. Simple as that really. I'm not going through posts because to be honest I can't be bothered searching for all your personas, yes there's that many. Just be yourself and stop giving people ammo to question you all the time because let's be honest, you have brought all this on yourself.


I have loads of usernames, granted. But thats because i keep getting banned for nothing. If i be myself then i get banned as the mods dont like me. Its common sense that i must use a persona. However when i do i only ever have one and thats a cardiff fan but my opinions are always the same as if im posting as me or as a cardiff fan - it makes no difference. But you are categorically incorrect to say i said i was at the man utd match i have no reason to say otherwise.

The amount of posters ive seen accused of being me is staggering and the amount whi have been banned im sure is equally as astounding.

I dont know how you think ive brought anything on myself. Im simply posting my opinions on a football message board very politely and nicely. If i get banned for it then i sign up again and continue, if i continue to get banned then i dont admit to being me. All common sense.

I requested my username and to post as myself, this was accepted for a few days and then i won a debate and got banned again. Im afriad that is not an option. My usernames these days are very much one day things unfortunately for the forum.


If that's what you want to think. I'm just saying what I can see from my point of view. From what I can see, you come on here looking for bites, I don't know why, maybe you get a kick I don't know. Then you bring another user name in acting relatively normal. I just don't get it. I know you'll pretend that it's not you, but you're just so easy to spot from my point of view. I admit some of your points are good and thought out, but if someone disagrees with you and prove you wrong which does happen. You get very selective with your arguments, hence why you irritate people. Maybe that's your personality, a stubborn individual. But even you can be wrong at times like anyone on here.


In what way am i looking for bites? All my posts are pretty fair and always backed up with thought and often facts. Some people dont like what im saying so call me a troll etc thats their issue not mine. Ill always admit im wrong when i am, however im not going to say im wrong when i dont think i am.

You say you know posters are me but you clearly dont, you have already accused me of being a poster that im not and have already touched upin the ridiculous amounts of roathie accusations i have seen on here. I was on a thread a few weeks back completely open that i was who i am and yet about 4 posters on the same thread got the "roathie accusation". Any new poster gets labelled as me and thus anything they say is taken as me saying it. Again, i cant help that im afriad.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:16 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:See what I mean. Deny at all costs, every man and his dog know when you're on here. You're not difficult to spot at all.


I am on here most days. I rarely make a secret of it.

Genuinelly interested however, who are you assuming was me? I can categorically tell you i never said i was going to the game. Thats just nonsense im afraid. You have no evidence when pointing the accusations yet happy to assume you are correct anyway. Im afraid what you do is out of my control.

What i will say however is look at what this thread has turned into, and look at all ive been saying. The deal is worth £4m (whoch it obviously is) and you have then seen fot to personally abuse me and defame my character. Yet im the one who is apparently doing wrong..

Just dont get it im afriad. But definately quote who you think was me and what i said, i was good enough to take a pic to take away your reservations afterall.


I'm not denying you are where you are, I've just seen so many personas of you now i just don't believe a word you say. Simple as that really. I'm not going through posts because to be honest I can't be bothered searching for all your personas, yes there's that many. Just be yourself and stop giving people ammo to question you all the time because let's be honest, you have brought all this on yourself.


I have loads of usernames, granted. But thats because i keep getting banned for nothing. If i be myself then i get banned as the mods dont like me. Its common sense that i must use a persona. However when i do i only ever have one and thats a cardiff fan but my opinions are always the same as if im posting as me or as a cardiff fan - it makes no difference. But you are categorically incorrect to say i said i was at the man utd match i have no reason to say otherwise.

The amount of posters ive seen accused of being me is staggering and the amount whi have been banned im sure is equally as astounding.

I dont know how you think ive brought anything on myself. Im simply posting my opinions on a football message board very politely and nicely. If i get banned for it then i sign up again and continue, if i continue to get banned then i dont admit to being me. All common sense.

I requested my username and to post as myself, this was accepted for a few days and then i won a debate and got banned again. Im afriad that is not an option. My usernames these days are very much one day things unfortunately for the forum.


If that's what you want to think. I'm just saying what I can see from my point of view. From what I can see, you come on here looking for bites, I don't know why, maybe you get a kick I don't know. Then you bring another user name in acting relatively normal. I just don't get it. I know you'll pretend that it's not you, but you're just so easy to spot from my point of view. I admit some of your points are good and thought out, but if someone disagrees with you and prove you wrong which does happen. You get very selective with your arguments, hence why you irritate people. Maybe that's your personality, a stubborn individual. But even you can be wrong at times like anyone on here.


In what way am i looking for bites? All my posts are pretty fair and always backed up with thought and often facts. Some people dont like what im saying so call me a troll etc thats their issue not mine. Ill always admit im wrong when i am, however im not going to say im wrong when i dont think i am.

You say you know posters are me but you clearly dont, you have already accused me of being a poster that im not and have already touched upin the ridiculous amounts of roathie accusations i have seen on here. I was on a thread a few weeks back completely open that i was who i am and yet about 4 posters on the same thread got the "roathie accusation". Any new poster gets labelled as me and thus anything they say is taken as me saying it. Again, i cant help that im afriad.


Ok what fact have you used to show that we have paid 4 million for Peter odenwingie?

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:18 pm

The £4m was based on an interview with his agent that the damned yank posted on another thread. £2.25m with add ons making it up to £4m. There is no reason his agent would lie.

This was after The daily mail whom city gent describes as "spot on with cardiff transfers" claimed we pulled out of the deal because WBA wanted £4m

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:21 pm

Magadan wrote:The £4m was based on an interview with his agent that the damned yank posted on another thread. £2.25m with add ons making it up to £4m. There is no reason his agent would lie.

This was after The daily mail whom city gent describes as "spot on with cardiff transfers" claimed we pulled out of the deal because WBA wanted £4m


Okay, okay, we all agree with you FFS! :laughing6: :thumbup: :laughing6: