UK and Syria

There are women and children being gassed to death and many of you prefer to turn a blind eye!!!

do you know who did it?
do you know more than America, Britain and the UN do?
if you want something to be done you have to target the right people because if it was the rebels and not the government and we attack the government we have helped the people who gassed women and children

so no Adam its not turning a blind eye its searching for the truth before we make wrong decisions

Do the rebels have any aircraft then Jonny to drop such bombs or are you thinking that they can go around spraying Nerv Gas and Naplam through a flower sprayer..?

You don't need an aircrafts to use chemical weapons, the rebels may have different delivery system (e.g. (land based missiles)

No just eye witness reports from parents who were picking up their kids from a school seen the aircraft strike the school!!!

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The US have been spraying their people for years, lets bomb them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ology.html

Great source mate. #seemslegit

Newspaper and news mate, same outlet that you are using to go to war. Works both ways

Yes they're all the same yet they all have different political tie ins and agendas.

Like when they said Saddam had WMD

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

The US have been spraying their people for years, lets bomb them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ology.html

Great source mate. #seemslegit

Newspaper and news mate, same outlet that you are using to go to war. Works both ways

Yes they're all the same yet they all have different political tie ins and agendas.

Like when they said Saddam had WMD

You're using the Daily Mail as a source. Its akin to using Goal.com as a source for transfer gossip. i.e. a load of rubbish.

If you want accurate information the search the worldnews information on Reddit. Some of it is disturbing but there you go you see the real stuff happening from the people there

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

There are women and children being gassed to death and many of you prefer to turn a blind eye!!!

There are people being killed in every country it's not our problem, lets sort our own problems out before others! I'm sure
If you asked the public to vote on entering Iraq, Afgan or Syria then majority vote with be not to go!

As Ive previously stated that is far more justification in my opinion to go into Syria than it ever was to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe many of you would have a different opinion if you've ever seen the effects of such agents with your own eyes

Adam you should know more than anyone that politics it's not about doing the right thing it's all about who can make the most money! Iraq and Afgan was simply motivated by drugs and oil, if for one second you don't believe the government don't bring drugs into the country then your nuts.

So the government bring drugs into the country then??????? what type, interested in this one, if you are indeed talking about Afgan!

Opium, cocaine, cannabis - of course all this is just my opinion, hell it was Britain who used opium to trade china for silk back in the day, I understand your x mitary you love your queen and serve your country but I'm a realist and do not believe for one second all the drugs on the streets are "smuggled" into Britain Bollux you do realise how big of a drug problem Britain has right?

There are women and children being gassed to death and many of you prefer to turn a blind eye!!!

do you know who did it?
do you know more than America, Britain and the UN do?
if you want something to be done you have to target the right people because if it was the rebels and not the government and we attack the government we have helped the people who gassed women and children

so no Adam its not turning a blind eye its searching for the truth before we make wrong decisions

Do the rebels have any aircraft then Jonny to drop such bombs or are you thinking that they can go around spraying Nerv Gas and Naplam through a flower sprayer..?

You don't need an aircrafts to use chemical weapons, the rebels may have different delivery system (e.g. (land based missiles)

No just eye witness reports from parents who were picking up their kids from a school seen the aircraft strike the school!!!

eye witnesses say a lot of things as a whole eye witness statements are very unreliable.

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

Still an Internal problem.

Why don't we send troops in to West Bank and stop the Israelis. What about Zimbabwe where the government have been killing white farmers and taking their lands.

Sadly they're not important enough, regardless if chemical weapons are used or not used, people are still getting killed by other means. Yet, we stand still and ignore them, because they do not have any oil or gas.

If that's the worlds community stance on every situation, what right do we have in attacking Syria.

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

no can you tell the difference between an aircraft and a missile flying at speed?

also you dont know who these people are welcome to warfare America came across this problem in Afghan when one soldier who went on a killing spree suddenly became 20 soldiers, tanks and armored vehicles.

There are women and children being gassed to death and many of you prefer to turn a blind eye!!!

There are people being killed in every country it's not our problem, lets sort our own problems out before others! I'm sure
If you asked the public to vote on entering Iraq, Afgan or Syria then majority vote with be not to go!

As Ive previously stated that is far more justification in my opinion to go into Syria than it ever was to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe many of you would have a different opinion if you've ever seen the effects of such agents with your own eyes

Adam you should know more than anyone that politics it's not about doing the right thing it's all about who can make the most money! Iraq and Afgan was simply motivated by drugs and oil, if for one second you don't believe the government don't bring drugs into the country then your nuts.

So the government bring drugs into the country then??????? what type, interested in this one, if you are indeed talking about Afgan!

Opium, cocaine, cannabis - of course all this is just my opinion, hell it was Britain who used opium to trade china for silk back in the day, I understand your x mitary you love your queen and serve your country but I'm a realist and do not believe for one second all the drugs on the streets are "smuggled" into Britain Bollux you do realise how big of a drug problem Britain has right?

Yes I do realise what a problem it is, and I can assure you that as far as my role was concerned, we did all we could to prevent the transfer of drugs (opium) from the middle east to our country enough details I hope fella

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

no can you tell the difference between an aircraft and a missile flying at speed?

also you dont know who these people are welcome to warfare America came across this problem in Afghan when one soldier who went on a killing spree suddenly became 20 soldiers, tanks and armored vehicles.

That is absolute rubbish!!!

The bottom line is that you won't believe any evidence because that is your libarial agenda.

Postby CjBluebird17 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:02 pm

As has been said we dont know who is actually using the chemicals, its already been shown the rebels have done some nasty stuff during this conflict. As much as I want the UK to go in and help the civilian untill we know who are actually the bad guys its best not to intervene

Agreed, its essentially a sectarian / religious conflict between the Suni and Shia muslims. Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? They have been at it for years only the regime of Assad has been too dominant but a few years ago when all this kicked off in Syria big time, it was just after the "Arab spring" uprising in other Arab countries (A sort of, if they can overthrow their government, so can we, effect).

I am not a bleeding heart liberal kind of fella at all, but on this occasion, although atrocities and lives are being lost on a massive scale, I do think we should leave well alone or get the other Arab countries to intervene as mediators.

We could very well end up with more militant Muslims in charge of Syria.

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

no can you tell the difference between an aircraft and a missile flying at speed?

also you dont know who these people are welcome to warfare America came across this problem in Afghan when one soldier who went on a killing spree suddenly became 20 soldiers, tanks and armored vehicles.

That is absolute rubbish!!!

The bottom line is that you won't believe any evidence because that is your libarial agenda.

I beg to differ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre

There are people being killed in every country it's not our problem, lets sort our own problems out before others! I'm sure
If you asked the public to vote on entering Iraq, Afgan or Syria then majority vote with be not to go![/quote]

As Ive previously stated that is far more justification in my opinion to go into Syria than it ever was to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe many of you would have a different opinion if you've ever seen the effects of such agents with your own eyes[/quote]
Adam you should know more than anyone that politics it's not about doing the right thing it's all about who can make the most money! Iraq and Afgan was simply motivated by drugs and oil, if for one second you don't believe the government don't bring drugs into the country then your nuts.[/quote]

So the government bring drugs into the country then??????? what type, interested in this one, if you are indeed talking about Afgan![/quote]
Opium, cocaine, cannabis - of course all this is just my opinion, hell it was Britain who used opium to trade china for silk back in the day, I understand your x mitary you love your queen and serve your country but I'm a realist and do not believe for one second all the drugs on the streets are "smuggled" into Britain Bollux you do realise how big of a drug problem Britain has right?[/quote]

Yes I do realise what a problem it is, and I can assure you that as far as my role was concerned, we did all we could to prevent the transfer of drugs (opium) from the middle east to our country enough details I hope fella[/quote]
And I don't doubt that for one minute, but what I do doubt is that the goverment has no involvement on importation of drugs into the UK, wherever money is involved you can be sure somewhere along the line someone in the goverment is profiting from it whether that money involved is illegal or legal.

Can you explain why out soilders were guarding opium fields? (It's quite well documented) surely it would not be easier just to destroy them?

You're using the Daily Mail as a source. Its akin to using Goal.com as a source for transfer gossip. i.e. a load of rubbish.

If you want accurate information the search the worldnews information on Reddit. Some of it is disturbing but there you go you see the real stuff happening from the people there

I just used the daily mail as it was one of the first to come up. Lots of other evidence to say the US have sprayed their own people.

Ok then, so what if the UN find evidence then would any of your opinions change..?

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

no can you tell the difference between an aircraft and a missile flying at speed?

also you dont know who these people are welcome to warfare America came across this problem in Afghan when one soldier who went on a killing spree suddenly became 20 soldiers, tanks and armored vehicles.

That is absolute rubbish!!!

The bottom line is that you won't believe any evidence because that is your libarial agenda.

I beg to differ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre

I'm not onabout the massacre I am onabout the comment I highlighted!!

There are people being killed in every country it's not our problem, lets sort our own problems out before others! I'm sure
If you asked the public to vote on entering Iraq, Afgan or Syria then majority vote with be not to go!

As Ive previously stated that is far more justification in my opinion to go into Syria than it ever was to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe many of you would have a different opinion if you've ever seen the effects of such agents with your own eyes[/quote]
Adam you should know more than anyone that politics it's not about doing the right thing it's all about who can make the most money! Iraq and Afgan was simply motivated by drugs and oil, if for one second you don't believe the government don't bring drugs into the country then your nuts.[/quote]

So the government bring drugs into the country then??????? what type, interested in this one, if you are indeed talking about Afgan![/quote]
Opium, cocaine, cannabis - of course all this is just my opinion, hell it was Britain who used opium to trade china for silk back in the day, I understand your x mitary you love your queen and serve your country but I'm a realist and do not believe for one second all the drugs on the streets are "smuggled" into Britain Bollux you do realise how big of a drug problem Britain has right?[/quote]

Yes I do realise what a problem it is, and I can assure you that as far as my role was concerned, we did all we could to prevent the transfer of drugs (opium) from the middle east to our country enough details I hope fella[/quote]
And I don't doubt that for one minute, but what I do doubt is that the goverment has no involvement on importation of drugs into the UK, wherever money is involved you can be sure somewhere along the line someone in the goverment is profiting from it whether that money involved is illegal or legal.

Can you explain why out soilders were guarding opium fields? (It's quite well documented) surely it would not be easier just to destroy them?[/quote]

Don't believe all you read fella Off to bed now rest assured, not guarding them them to import to the UK

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

no can you tell the difference between an aircraft and a missile flying at speed?

also you dont know who these people are welcome to warfare America came across this problem in Afghan when one soldier who went on a killing spree suddenly became 20 soldiers, tanks and armored vehicles.

That is absolute rubbish!!!

The bottom line is that you won't believe any evidence because that is your libarial agenda.

I beg to differ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre

I'm not onabout the massacre I am onabout the comment I highlighted!!

oh right so you can tell the difference between 1 dot in the sky and another can you?

where did you learn this skill the military would love to know what skills you use

hard enough in normal circumstances let alone when theres smoke, loud noises, explosions oh and lets not forget the actual chemical reactions on human skin.

Mps vote no. Finally some sense. We should follow the UN's instruction.

So many sheltered people in this thread.

Of course drugs get in via official transit lines. Silk Road is a known thing but it still happens because money talks. They can close that off if they wanted but instead its easier to control the flow, know what is about and use the knowledge to your gain.

Money corrupts people, families and governments are no different. The US is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world and a lot of people don't realise that. Why? Money. it doesn't matter if they are purchased by rebels in the middle east because the profit is all that matters and the continuous trade is still there.

Another reason is opium and hemp has loads of other uses that are profitable to those that can afford it. With America's private healthcare industry this just drives up the interest whereby a multi trillion dollar pharma industry can keep in flow. Why cure something and stop your profit streams when you can manage it and keep revenue coming in?

Car manufacturers can make cars that can last 10-20 years if they wanted but whats the sense in that when they can make you a car that needs regular servicing, parts replacement and sell on for an upgraded model every few years and keep money streams up?

So many believe the government on everything and think they're working in the best interests of the people. Some like Brownie do well for their constituency, they get cut from the line though. The selfish and ruthless are the ones who get to the top of the ladder and they only care about one thing, money.

They don't care about me, you or your next door neighbour but profit, getting votes to keep their arse in parliament so they can keep milking it for another few years. Its time people stopped pretending they cared because the government don't.

Some people are deluded. If there is profit to be made from it then they will do it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

Anybody seen this yet? Horrific.

Shame on all those MPs who voted against taking any action.

What is it with the right demanding the government stays out of its own people's lives but can't wait for it to go mess up people in other country's lives?

There are people being killed in every country it's not our problem, lets sort our own problems out before others! I'm sure
If you asked the public to vote on entering Iraq, Afgan or Syria then majority vote with be not to go!

As Ive previously stated that is far more justification in my opinion to go into Syria than it ever was to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe many of you would have a different opinion if you've ever seen the effects of such agents with your own eyes

Adam you should know more than anyone that politics it's not about doing the right thing it's all about who can make the most money! Iraq and Afgan was simply motivated by drugs and oil, if for one second you don't believe the government don't bring drugs into the country then your nuts.[/quote]

So the government bring drugs into the country then??????? what type, interested in this one, if you are indeed talking about Afgan![/quote]
Opium, cocaine, cannabis - of course all this is just my opinion, hell it was Britain who used opium to trade china for silk back in the day, I understand your x mitary you love your queen and serve your country but I'm a realist and do not believe for one second all the drugs on the streets are "smuggled" into Britain Bollux you do realise how big of a drug problem Britain has right?[/quote]

Yes I do realise what a problem it is, and I can assure you that as far as my role was concerned, we did all we could to prevent the transfer of drugs (opium) from the middle east to our country enough details I hope fella[/quote]
And I don't doubt that for one minute, but what I do doubt is that the goverment has no involvement on importation of drugs into the UK, wherever money is involved you can be sure somewhere along the line someone in the goverment is profiting from it whether that money involved is illegal or legal.

Can you explain why out soilders were guarding opium fields? (It's quite well documented) surely it would not be easier just to destroy them?[/quote]

Don't believe all you read fella Off to bed now rest assured, not guarding them them to import to the UK [/quote]
I won't but as I said just my opinion, UK's drugs needs could not be sustained by smugglers alone, some bent official is making a lot of money.

Mps vote no. Finally some sense. We should follow the UN's instruction.

They've voted no to partaking in military intervention, that doesn't mean we won't support it.

yes if either side have used chemical weapons we as a nation have to condemn that whether we do it through military means or on the political stage

though if we do go to war id like to know 100% that we back the right people however if it turns out to be the rebels I think America will ignore it and condemn Russia for any actions it takes

So eyewitness reports isn't good enough for you then Jonny is it..?

no can you tell the difference between an aircraft and a missile flying at speed?

also you dont know who these people are welcome to warfare America came across this problem in Afghan when one soldier who went on a killing spree suddenly became 20 soldiers, tanks and armored vehicles.

That is absolute rubbish!!!

The bottom line is that you won't believe any evidence because that is your libarial agenda.

I beg to differ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre

I'm not onabout the massacre I am onabout the comment I highlighted!![/quote]

oh right so you can tell the difference between 1 dot in the sky and another can you?

where did you learn this skill the military would love to know what skills you use

hard enough in normal circumstances let alone when theres smoke, loud noises, explosions oh and lets not forget the actual chemical reactions on human skin.[/quote]

With St.Athan and Brecon Brecons so close to many of us I think we all have seen with the RAF training in the area a rough idea of how far away an aircraft would be from the ground and you know as well as me that it would be far bigger than a dot!!!

So many sheltered people in this thread.

Of course drugs get in via official transit lines. Silk Road is a known thing but it still happens because money talks. They can close that off if they wanted but instead its easier to control the flow, know what is about and use the knowledge to your gain.

Money corrupts people, families and governments are no different. The US is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world and a lot of people don't realise that. Why? Money. it doesn't matter if they are purchased by rebels in the middle east because the profit is all that matters and the continuous trade is still there.

Another reason is opium and hemp has loads of other uses that are profitable to those that can afford it. With America's private healthcare industry this just drives up the interest whereby a multi trillion dollar pharma industry can keep in flow. Why cure something and stop your profit streams when you can manage it and keep revenue coming in?

Car manufacturers can make cars that can last 10-20 years if they wanted but whats the sense in that when they can make you a car that needs regular servicing, parts replacement and sell on for an upgraded model every few years and keep money streams up?

So many believe the government on everything and think they're working in the best interests of the people. Some like Brownie do well for their constituency, they get cut from the line though. The selfish and ruthless are the ones who get to the top of the ladder and they only care about one thing, money.

They don't care about me, you or your next door neighbour but profit, getting votes to keep their arse in parliament so they can keep milking it for another few years. Its time people stopped pretending they cared because the government don't.

Some people are deluded. If there is profit to be made from it then they will do it.

Someone with some sense!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

Anybody seen this yet? Horrific.

Shame on all those MPs who voted against taking any action.

military action will just make things worse. 90,000 killed by conventional weapons so far, we didn't do anything to save them poor fckers. Very sceptical of what the media makes us see and hear

Mps vote no. Finally some sense. We should follow the UN's instruction.

They've voted no to partaking in military intervention, that doesn't mean we won't support it.

thanks dad

Mps vote no. Finally some sense. We should follow the UN's instruction.

They've voted no to partaking in military intervention, that doesn't mean we won't support it.

thanks dad

No problem son.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

Anybody seen this yet? Horrific.

Shame on all those MPs who voted against taking any action.

I wonder how many of them weapons being used were sold to Syria by UN countries.