Will Malkys Inexperience

c'mon roathie, at least do your homework first! d'uh

Yep should have checked, but my point isnt specifically to La Liga is it. Its foreigners adapting to the prem.

My point is that he has never played Prem football before and there is an endless list of continental south Americans who are great in the other european leagues and not in the prem. not saying he wont be, im just saying of the 4 signings made they are either kids or have prem inexperience.

Last edited by TheHungryJackapillar on Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I think his new name is quite inventive to be fair.

I just wanted to rebrand Roathie so I could try and understand the psychology of Tan. If I can understand Tan's mindset on rebrands and the powerful feeling rebranding gives you then I can work on his level and help him change us back to blue. Now you've gone and ruined my wonderful experiment. Time to get the crayons back out and draw up plan B.

c'mon roathie, at least do your homework first! d'uh

Yep should have checked, but my point isnt specifically to La Liga is it. Its foreigners adapting to the prem.

My point is that he has never played Prem football before and there is an endless list of continental south Americans who are great in the other european leagues and not in the prem. not saying he wont be, im just saying of the 4 signings made they are either kids or have prem inexperience.

There are also plenty of South Americans who have been huge hits in this country as far back as Ardiles and Villa so it works both ways.

I think his new name is quite inventive to be fair.

I just wanted to rebrand Roathie so I could try and understand the psychology of Tan. If I can understand Tan's mindset on rebrands and the powerful feeling rebranding gives you then I can work on his level and help him change us back to blue. Now you've gone and ruined my wonderful experiment. Time to get the crayons back out and draw up plan B.

I dont think rebranding Roathie would be much of an achievment hes been rebranded about 10,000 times

I think his new name is quite inventive to be fair.

I just wanted to rebrand Roathie so I could try and understand the psychology of Tan. If I can understand Tan's mindset on rebrands and the powerful feeling rebranding gives you then I can work on his level and help him change us back to blue. Now you've gone and ruined my wonderful experiment. Time to get the crayons back out and draw up plan B.

I dont think rebranding Roathie would be much of an achievment hes been rebranded about 10,000 times

and the rest!

I dont think rebranding Roathie would be much of an achievment hes been rebranded about 10,000 times

c'mon roathie, at least do your homework first! d'uh

Yep should have checked, but my point isnt specifically to La Liga is it. Its foreigners adapting to the prem.

My point is that he has never played Prem football before and there is an endless list of continental south Americans who are great in the other european leagues and not in the prem. not saying he wont be, im just saying of the 4 signings made they are either kids or have prem inexperience.

There are also plenty of South Americans who have been huge hits in this country as far back as Ardiles and Villa so it works both ways.

Entirely agree with you. My point isnt that hes going to be bad.

I was basically saying Malky has spent too much on too few, and even those he has spent on - are either kids or have no prem experience. Every time you bring in someone from a foreign league thats never played in England before its always a risk. I just think its mad that 100% of Malkys signings upon promotion to a league as good as this, have had no solid experience in the league. Caulker is probably the mosts experienced in the environment and hes 21 and played a season and a half of prem footy.

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Im very rarely rebranded. All my opinions are consistant, all my views are entirely my own.

Just have to be creative sometimes in order to deliver the opinion due to the forum SS.

c'mon roathie, at least do your homework first! d'uh

Yep should have checked, but my point isnt specifically to La Liga is it. Its foreigners adapting to the prem.

My point is that he has never played Prem football before and there is an endless list of continental south Americans who are great in the other european leagues and not in the prem. not saying he wont be, im just saying of the 4 signings made they are either kids or have prem inexperience.

There are also plenty of South Americans who have been huge hits in this country as far back as Ardiles and Villa so it works both ways.

Entirely agree with you. My point isnt thats hes going to be bad.

I was basically saying Malky has spent too much on too few, and even thise he has spent on are either kids or have no prem experience. Every time you bring in someone from a foreign league thats never played in England before its always a risk. I just think its mad that 100% of Malkys signings have had no solid experience in the league. Caulker is probably the mosts experienced in the environment and hes 21 and played a season and a half of prem footy.

Well seeing as ive basically started this thread and said all of that you havent exactly told us anything i hadnt already stated myself.

Im very rarely rebranded. All my opinions are consistant, all my views are entirely my own.

Just have to be creative sometimes in order to deliver the opinion due to the forum SS.

In fairness you've been rebranded more times than Katie Price's face.

Im very rarely rebranded. All my opinions are consistant, all my views are entirely my own.

Just have to be creative sometimes in order to deliver the opinion due to the forum SS.

In fairness you've been rebranded more times than Katie Price's face.

Id go as far to see hes been rebranded more time than shes had spunk on her face

Im very rarely rebranded. All my opinions are consistant, all my views are entirely my own.

Just have to be creative sometimes in order to deliver the opinion due to the forum SS.

In fairness you've been rebranded more times than Katie Price's face.

Id go as far to see hes been rebranded more time than shes had spunk on her face

I was thinking more make up but if you want to go down that route then im not going to argue.

Well seeing as ive basically started this thread and said all of that you havent exactly told us anything i hadnt already stated myself.

I was shadowing your sentiments and added my thoughts on what your squad is now, where malky made the errors, an example and comparison on what less money can achieve with a similar club and approach while stating that none of malkys signings have vast prem experience. Except when i post it gets picked apart so it drags on a little more than most peoples posts.

c'mon roathie, at least do your homework first! d'uh

Yep should have checked, but my point isnt specifically to La Liga is it. Its foreigners adapting to the prem.

My point is that he has never played Prem football before and there is an endless list of continental south Americans who are great in the other european leagues and not in the prem. not saying he wont be, im just saying of the 4 signings made they are either kids or have prem inexperience.

There are also plenty of South Americans who have been huge hits in this country as far back as Ardiles and Villa so it works both ways.

Entirely agree with you. My point isnt that hes going to be bad.

I was basically saying Malky has spent too much on too few, and even those he has spent on - are either kids or have no prem experience. Every time you bring in someone from a foreign league thats never played in England before its always a risk. I just think its mad that 100% of Malkys signings upon promotion to a league as good as this, have had no solid experience in the league. Caulker is probably the mosts experienced in the environment and hes 21 and played a season and a half of prem footy.

swanseas first season in the prem and you signed Routledge from Newcastle, Caulker from Spurs & McEachran from Chelsea (the last 2 were loans).

All of the rest had no or very little prem experience.

Neil Taylor, Ben Davies and Joe Allen all kids who thrived in the PL.

The rest of the squad were championship players in a team that finished 3rd in the league.

You lost your first game 4-0 to Man City. Drew your first 2 home games 0-0 and lost your 4th game away to Arsenal 1-0 before your first win at the 5th attempt at home to WBA. Followed by 2 hidings either side of a home win against Stoke, away at Chelsea 4-1 and Norwich 3-1.

You hardly found the PL easy when you first came up but your players adapted after a while just like ours will too.

swanseas first season in the prem and you signed Routledge from Newcastle, Caulker from Spurs & McEachran from Chelsea (the last 2 were loans).

All of the rest had no or very little prem experience.

Neil Taylor, Ben Davies and Joe Allen all kids who thrived in the PL.

The rest of the squad were championship players in a team that finished 3rd in the league.

You lost your first game 4-0 to Man City. Drew your first 2 home games 0-0 and lost your 4th game away to Arsenal 1-0 before your first win at the 5th attempt at home to WBA. Followed by 2 hidings either side of a home win against Stoke, away at Chelsea 4-1 and Norwich 3-1.

You hardly found the PL easy when you first came up but your players adapted after a while just like ours will too.

It doesnt matter. We had a third of the budget you had, we were forced to take risks on kids and inexperience. We were never going to beat Arsenal away or Man City away in our first few games in the top flight. The other 3 winnable games we all took points from and thats the key.

And as much as it pains me to say this the way the Jacks play then the players who stepped up from the championship were comfortable on the ball and played a style of play that suited the new level.

Weve got to change our philosophy and tactics if we are to stay up, they didnt have to change theirs. Winning ugly, playing the percentages, which is what we done a lot of the time last year, isnt going to be a succesful tactic in the quality of this league. Well not enough to keep us up IMO anyway.

swanseas first season in the prem and you signed Routledge from Newcastle, Caulker from Spurs & McEachran from Chelsea (the last 2 were loans).

All of the rest had no or very little prem experience.

Neil Taylor, Ben Davies and Joe Allen all kids who thrived in the PL.

The rest of the squad were championship players in a team that finished 3rd in the league.

You lost your first game 4-0 to Man City. Drew your first 2 home games 0-0 and lost your 4th game away to Arsenal 1-0 before your first win at the 5th attempt at home to WBA. Followed by 2 hidings either side of a home win against Stoke, away at Chelsea 4-1 and Norwich 3-1.

You hardly found the PL easy when you first came up but your players adapted after a while just like ours will too.

It doesnt matter. We had a third of the budget you had, we were forced to take risks on kids and inexperience. We were never going to beat Arsenal away or Man City away in our first few games in the top flight. The other 3 winnable games we all took points from and thats the key.

It does matter. Everything you have said is not based on a knowledge of the game, its just trolling. swansea didnt win their first away game until the 2nd of jan but because we didnt win our very first away game we are doomed. Shows how little you know. Its just fcuk up after fcuk up with you. You know fcuk all about football.

And as much as it pains me to say this the way the Jacks play then the players who stepped up from the championship were comfortable on the ball and played a style of play that suited the new level.

Weve got to change our philosophy and tactics if we are to stay up, they didnt have to change theirs. Winning ugly, playing the percentages, which is what we done a lot of the time last year, isnt going to be a succesful tactic in the quality of this league. Well not enough to keep us up IMO anyway.

I couldnt agree more with that, my concerns from the beginning were Malkys tactical nous but youve got to give him a chance to get it right and not just get on his back on the back of one game our first at this level in donkeys.

And as much as it pains me to say this the way the Jacks play then the players who stepped up from the championship were comfortable on the ball and played a style of play that suited the new level.

Weve got to change our philosophy and tactics if we are to stay up, they didnt have to change theirs. Winning ugly, playing the percentages, which is what we done a lot of the time last year, isnt going to be a succesful tactic in the quality of this league. Well not enough to keep us up IMO anyway.

I couldnt agree more with that, my concerns from the beginning were Malkys tactical nous but youve got to give him a chance to get it right and not just get on his back on the back of one game our first at this level in donkeys.

yes itsgoing to be a learning curve and of course he deserves the chance hes a top quality fella and he got us promoted.

However, I do feel he has to adapt and he needs to show that quickly.

Nothing wrong with discussing our concerns its what the forum is for.

"Where Malky made the errors" we've lost ONE game FFS.

Swansea lost at West Ham last season too, he forgets that.

What a fool.

swanseas first season in the prem and you signed Routledge from Newcastle, Caulker from Spurs & McEachran from Chelsea (the last 2 were loans).

All of the rest had no or very little prem experience.

Neil Taylor, Ben Davies and Joe Allen all kids who thrived in the PL.

The rest of the squad were championship players in a team that finished 3rd in the league.

You lost your first game 4-0 to Man City. Drew your first 2 home games 0-0 and lost your 4th game away to Arsenal 1-0 before your first win at the 5th attempt at home to WBA. Followed by 2 hidings either side of a home win against Stoke, away at Chelsea 4-1 and Norwich 3-1.

You hardly found the PL easy when you first came up but your players adapted after a while just like ours will too.

It doesnt matter. We had a third of the budget you had, we were forced to take risks on kids and inexperience. We were never going to beat Arsenal away or Man City away in our first few games in the top flight. The other 3 winnable games we all took points from and thats the key.

It does matter. Everything you have said is not based on a knowledge of the game, its just trolling. swansea didnt win their first away game until the 2nd of jan but because we didnt win our very first away game we are doomed. Shows how little you know. Its just fcuk up after fcuk up with you. You know fcuk all about football.

Here we go, the two main counters to someone who cant counter something "you know nothing" and "troll" seriously when will this forum learn?

But anyway, ill amswer what cntent isnt designed to be obtuse. Where have i said because you didnt win you are doomed? In my opinion you dont have a very good team, this couoked with HOW you lost to west ham leads me to think you will struggle. Home or away, it doesnt matter where you pick up the points, as long as you do.

We play an excellent brand of football and have a superbly talented team. When we first arrived in the prem the notion was posession, posession, posession - the reason being of course, if your opponent doesnt have the ball - they cant hurt you. This comfort on the ball led to some excellent results, meaning any result that didnt go our way which was winnable (norwich, stoke) could often be made uo against the bug guns who are shocked by such an approach (man city, liverpool, arsenal)

Now then, on to you. I genuinelly feel your squad, coupled with style of play can regularly, if at all, trouble the big guns. We took a quarter of our points off the top 6 which was vital in us staying up. I dont think you can do that. Maning losing any games in matches winnable or drawable causes more problems than it would have done for us.

If you think that opinion is "fucked up" and "knowing f**k all" or "trolling" then all power to you, but its the truth.

Is not the truth, it's an opinion FFS.

"Where Malky made the errors" we've lost ONE game FFS.

Swansea lost at West Ham last season too, he forgets that.

What a fool.

You are kidding yourself if you think our current style of play with the players we have will keep us up.

"Where Malky made the errors" we've lost ONE game FFS.

Swansea lost at West Ham last season too, he forgets that.

What a fool.

Name calling again bazza?

Yes malky has made bad errors this ore season, yes its one game so far out of one game, or 100% of games, depends how you want to look at it, time will tell who is correct. But with man city then everton approaching i dont fancy your chances much.

And as explained several times barry, the fact we lost to west ham is irrelevant. The match was close, we had many shots on target, coukd have won it even and had the ability to make those points lost against the kesser teams uo against the better sides. I just dont hink you have that ability.

"Where Malky made the errors" we've lost ONE game FFS.

Swansea lost at West Ham last season too, he forgets that.

What a fool.

You are kidding yourself if you think our current style of play with the players we have will keep us up.

He will say anything for attention. Hes gone from a very good poster to someone who just repeats sentences with emotion masking smileys.

Is not the truth, it's an opinion FFS.

Nope its the truth. laughing smiley laughing smiley

Thread over thanks to Chuckles.

In Roathies defence, like it or not, he has spoken some sense on this thread and the trolling has not come from him.

"Where Malky made the errors" we've lost ONE game FFS.

Swansea lost at West Ham last season too, he forgets that.

What a fool.

You are kidding yourself if you think our current style of play with the players we have will keep us up.

Where have I said that? west Ham was poor & we were well beaten, but the transfer window hasn't shut yet & I'd rather have some faith in Malky than have a fit like some on here.

Thread over thanks to Chuckles.

In Roathies defence, like it or not, he has spoken some sense on this thread and the trolling has not come from him.

think you'll find the thread was already derailed going on about Katie Price etc.

Malky made some mistakes. I expect him to rectify them & see a changed team on Sunday. After a prolonged period, if things haven't Improved, then I'd worry.

Thread over thanks to Chuckles.

In Roathies defence, like it or not, he has spoken some sense on this thread and the trolling has not come from him.

Hes getting worse, he just follows me around now.

Wouldnt mind if he gave reaosned debate but its usually a nonsense sentence followed by

Maybe hes still bitter about roathie finding his entry on the singles dating agency and posting it here. Im sure he still has a screen shot before he hastily deleted it. Just wish hed move on tbh, its boring.