" VINCENT TAN REFUSES TO RULE OUT NAME CHANGE "

Why dont he stay out of the f*cking limelight.

Shouldnt be putting himself in the spotlight this week opening himself up to the questions.

Kicking off the season in 2 days time ffs should be about Malky and the lads not him.

Like an Asian Ian Holloway.

Put a f*cking sock in it.

Again, journalists who don't want to see football as Wales' number one sport so will put a negative twist on every positive story there is. He has not said he will change it, he hasn't said I WILL change it, maybe he will sell the club and a NEW owner will change it. He speaks in future tense when he refers to it. Fed up of a negative twist being put on EVERYTHING us/Tan does.

Agree with your sentiments.

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

American sports team have a nickname that represent the area the come from. Dallas is renown for the Cowboy and Pittsburgh Steelers goes without saying. Going on that logic Cardiff Bluebirds would be acceptable to most. However and lets be honest here Tan is pushing for Cradiff Dragons. Why because it represents Wales/Malaysia/China. Thats what the Cardiff City fans needs to be aware of.

Edited your post for you!

Had to look a few times before seeing it.

This is where Tan has made a mistake in understanding us. The Dragon is for the national level not club tier. The Bluebird symbol gives us our uniqueness NOT the dragon. Tan is trying to bring in the oriental in disguise of our nationality. Not good at all that.

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

American sports team have a nickname that represent the area the come from. Dallas is renown for the Cowboy and Pittsburgh Steelers goes without saying. Going on that logic Cardiff Bluebirds would be acceptable to most. However and lets be honest here Tan is pushing for Cradiff Dragons. Why because it represents Wales/Malaysia/China. Thats what the Cardiff City fans needs to be aware of.

Edited your post for you!

Had to look a few times before seeing it.

This is where Tan has made a mistake in understanding us. The Dragon is for the national level not club tier. The Bluebird symbol gives us our uniqueness NOT the dragon. Tan is trying to bring in the oriental in disguise of our nationality. Not good at all that.

I suspect that you will only be able to judge whether he's gauged things right, by the success of the club on the field!

If the team become successful at Premier League level, then the fan base prepared to accept his changes will rise even further and I can't see any protesting fan groups making a difference to him if that happens!

As long as the name has Cardiff in it I am not bothered.

I would not mind just Cardiff FC though like Arsenal FC or Liverpool FC although I suspect we'll be Cardiff Dragons FC.

f**k that!! He wouldnt just drop city would he, we'd be cardiff dragons or some other wank rugby league american sounding cock sucking name!!

Why dont he stay out of the f*cking limelight.

Shouldnt be putting himself in the spotlight this week opening himself up to the questions.

Kicking off the season in 2 days time ffs should be about Malky and the lads not him.
Like an Asian Ian Holloway.

Put a f*cking sock in it.

Nearly pissed myself there Polo!
Like an Asian Ian Holloway... Classic

"Cardiff Valleys F.C."would get no argument from me as that would reflect our fan base and regional identity.

I will just say this, Tan has stripped us of our colour BLUE,stripped us of our Badge,the seats 100% will be Red and I honestly believe Tan will change our name.

Now you will all say but he has done this done that, well for me personally I would rather our True Identity that I have only known for 41 years and that to me is everything, that other fans should Respect. And yes I would go to every game home and away no matter what division we were in and I have done it all before, 9 years in the 4th Divsion, never missed a game home or away game.
Other fans who have accepted the red,endorsed it and some even like it, should Resect the opinion of us fans who still want our identity back.

Now some will say we would of had no club, I have been there on 6 different occasions in 41 years and been there when we were 2hrs away from folding etc etc etc I also do nt believe we would never off had a club and the truth s, Tan never said we would not.

I will say it again wear your BLUE at every City game

Bang on the money

when the re-brand first broke vinny came out and said he would not proceed with it.then he sat back and watched the fans almost crap themselves because he said he would be looking for new people to invest in the club.that was taken as im leaving.vincent tan never said he would leave.when he saw the split in the fanbase he went full pelt and redded you up.is it just me but does anyone else think these media bursts are meant to drip into the fans that it may happen and also to gauge opinion?when he see,s fans saying i,ll accept this or i,ll accept that he will think this is easy.im going to do it sooner rather than later.make no mistake.it will not be cardiff city bluebirds.vinny didnt give you the beer mat with a dragon on it to call you bluebirds.if vincent tan had said before he brought in to cardiff city that he would re-brand you and let s/t holders vote on whether to go with it then fair enough but he didn,t and has been very shady about it.for anyone to think he doesnt want to do the name change is just laughable.in vincent tans world when he says not now he means not now this second.tomorrow isn,t now.by next season,the one after the latest he will imo try to push through the name change.

when the re-brand first broke vinny came out and said he would not proceed with it.then he sat back and watched the fans almost crap themselves because he said he would be looking for new people to invest in the club.that was taken as im leaving.vincent tan never said he would leave.when he saw the split in the fanbase he went full pelt and redded you up.is it just me but does anyone else think these media bursts are meant to drip into the fans that it may happen and also to gauge opinion?when he see,s fans saying i,ll accept this or i,ll accept that he will think this is easy.im going to do it sooner rather than later.make no mistake.it will not be cardiff city bluebirds.vinny didnt give you the beer mat with a dragon on it to call you bluebirds.if vincent tan had said before he brought in to cardiff city that he would re-brand you and let s/t holders vote on whether to go with it then fair enough but he didn,t and has been very shady about it.for anyone to think he doesnt want to do the name change is just laughable.in vincent tans world when he says not now he means not now this second.tomorrow isn,t now.by next season,the one after the latest he will imo try to push through the name change.

well said, some of our fans are fuckin pathetic

Cardiff & The Valleys FC.

Our logo should be the sheep. No one expects the sheep to be dangerous which is actually why its so dangerous. The sheep just stands there in a field, chilling like a boss and then when it wants to makes it move. If you've seen the film Black Sheep you will know fully well what I mean. Sheep are lethal animals and would definitely slay the dragon. I think someone should tell Tan.

when the re-brand first broke vinny came out and said he would not proceed with it.then he sat back and watched the fans almost crap themselves because he said he would be looking for new people to invest in the club.that was taken as im leaving.vincent tan never said he would leave.when he saw the split in the fanbase he went full pelt and redded you up.is it just me but does anyone else think these media bursts are meant to drip into the fans that it may happen and also to gauge opinion?when he see,s fans saying i,ll accept this or i,ll accept that he will think this is easy.im going to do it sooner rather than later.make no mistake.it will not be cardiff city bluebirds.vinny didnt give you the beer mat with a dragon on it to call you bluebirds.if vincent tan had said before he brought in to cardiff city that he would re-brand you and let s/t holders vote on whether to go with it then fair enough but he didn,t and has been very shady about it.for anyone to think he doesnt want to do the name change is just laughable.in vincent tans world when he says not now he means not now this second.tomorrow isn,t now.by next season,the one after the latest he will imo try to push through the name change.

well said, some of our fans are fuckin pathetic

Don't be so hard on yourself!

Jules the headline is from Media Wales, I copied and pasted two news stories and put them on here with the headlines used on their site.

Not Media Wales !!!, those egg chasing sycophants who like nothing more than pulling football down?

Jules the headline is from Media Wales, I copied and pasted two news stories and put them on here with the headlines used on their site.

Not Media Wales !!!, those egg chasing sycophants who like nothing more than pulling football down?

Let's be honest here, Media Wales knew what they were doing when they chose their headline(s) and Carl knew exactly what he was doing, when he posted this thread, when the contents of this post was already posted in his other thread:-

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=120503

He really has no idea about the title. People have great pride in being a city....its an honour....something to brag about. Swansea changed from town to city and newport spent decades trying to get city status.
To everyone bar Tan the Hull City owner comes across as an ignorant buffoon. The title of city should be cherished not insulted.

He really has no idea about the title. People have great pride in being a city....its an honour....something to brag about. Swansea changed from town to city and newport spent decades trying to get city status.
To everyone bar Tan the Hull City owner comes across as an ignorant buffoon. The title of city should be cherished not insulted.

Sadly Tan is failing to understand another culture here, our culture.

He really has no idea about the title. People have great pride in being a city....its an honour....something to brag about. Swansea changed from town to city and newport spent decades trying to get city status.
To everyone bar Tan the Hull City owner comes across as an ignorant buffoon. The title of city should be cherished not insulted.

Sadly Tan is failing to understand another culture here, our culture.

A full stadium with thousands of red shirts says he understands our culture very well.

I think that anybody who thinks our name won't change eventually under Tan is burying their head in the sand & it won't be Cardiff Bluebirds while EVERYTHING else has been changed to red.

I agree. Anyone who believes Tan won’t change the name is only kidding themselves. We all know deep down that dark day will come. He’s changed the kit colour and he’s given us that pathetic badge. The new seats will be red and it’s only a matter of time before the rest of the seats are changed along with the lego panels on the outside of the stadium. Then he’ll drop the Bluebird from that hideous badge and finally change the name to Cardiff Dragons which will probably be within the next 2 to 3 years. And he’ll do this because he can and unfortunately have very little resistance from us fans. This is why the BU march on 25th August is more important than ever for us ALL to unite as one for the sake of Cardiff City.
Players come and go, managers come and go and owners come and go, but us fans are here for the long term and we need to stick together not argue and snipe at each other over what we all know is going to happen unless we stand together to show the football world that we do care about our club.

Our identity is far more important than premier league football.

I agree. Anyone who believes Tan won’t change the name is only kidding themselves. We all know deep down that dark day will come. He’s changed the kit colour and he’s given us that pathetic badge. The new seats will be red and it’s only a matter of time before the rest of the seats are changed along with the lego panels on the outside of the stadium. Then he’ll drop the Bluebird from that hideous badge and finally change the name to Cardiff Dragons which will probably be within the next 2 to 3 years. And he’ll do this because he can and unfortunately have very little resistance from us fans. This is why the BU march on 25th August is more important than ever for us ALL to unite as one for the sake of Cardiff City.
Players come and go, managers come and go and owners come and go, but us fans are here for the long term and we need to stick together not argue and snipe at each other over what we all know is going to happen unless we stand together to show the football world that we do care about our club.

Our identity is far more important than premier league football.

name change doesnt bother me as much really. Especially if it was to "Cardiff City Bluebirds" but we all know it wont be lol.

At least keep this board ticking over with discussion for the next yesr 2 yrs 3 yrs or however long it will take or wont take to happen! Why do people get into a lather over things that haven't happened or may not happen? Must be more important things in life to worry abouy surely? I know I have!

He really has no idea about the title. People have great pride in being a city....its an honour....something to brag about. Swansea changed from town to city and newport spent decades trying to get city status.
To everyone bar Tan the Hull City owner comes across as an ignorant buffoon. The title of city should be cherished not insulted.

Sadly Tan is failing to understand another culture here, our culture.

A full stadium with thousands of red shirts says he understands our culture very well.

... Fans excuses my blue shirts in the washing machine ahaha

"Cardiff Valleys F.C."would get no argument from me as that would reflect our fan base and regional identity.

I agree. Anyone who believes Tan won’t change the name is only kidding themselves. We all know deep down that dark day will come. He’s changed the kit colour and he’s given us that pathetic badge. The new seats will be red and it’s only a matter of time before the rest of the seats are changed along with the lego panels on the outside of the stadium. Then he’ll drop the Bluebird from that hideous badge and finally change the name to Cardiff Dragons which will probably be within the next 2 to 3 years. And he’ll do this because he can and unfortunately have very little resistance from us fans. This is why the BU march on 25th August is more important than ever for us ALL to unite as one for the sake of Cardiff City.
Players come and go, managers come and go and owners come and go, but us fans are here for the long term and we need to stick together not argue and snipe at each other over what we all know is going to happen unless we stand together to show the football world that we do care about our club.

Our identity is far more important than premier league football.

This

I tried to tell you all but you wouldn't listen. This is bigger than you want to realise, if we don't demonstrate what the heritage of this club means then we will not only lose our humility but in the long term we'll lose our club. In 10 years time, do not rule out some home games in Kuala Lumpur, Is a season in the prem worth that?

At least keep this board ticking over with discussion for the next yesr 2 yrs 3 yrs or however long it will take or wont take to happen! Why do people get into a lather over things that haven't happened or may not happen? Must be more important things in life to worry abouy surely? I know I have!

yes but what if and what if and if this happens and if he does this blah blah blah.

FFS here we go again cue the moaning & twisting of his words.

Yes indeed. Never mind comments like “But definitely we are not changing anything now.” because it won't suit the negative agendas of those who simply cannot see the wood for the trees

A bit like voting for a particular political party "because my father did" or "I always have done"

Doesn't make it right; particularly if the other party (in this case Tan) have the better overall manifesto, does it?

The devil is in the detail sven, The word 'Now' is is a clue. For instance 'now' will soon be the past and there will be a new 'now'. 'Now' does not encompass the future. He exlicitly ruled out the future because a name change is on the cards. Not now but in the future I'm suprised you can't see it.

:wave:

I tried to tell you all but you wouldn't listen. This is bigger than you want to realise, if we don't demonstrate what the heritage of this club means then we will not only lose our humility but in the long term we'll lose our club. In 10 years time, do not rule out some home games in Kuala Lumpur, Is a season in the prem worth that?

Well do something about it then.

Tan says he admires Hull's owners for what they've done. Yeah that's great of them Tan. Upset the die hard fans by making them sound like an ice hockey team!

A lot of fans haven't been happy but have gone along with the rebrand so far like myself. I have even avoided the Bluebirds unite march etc. If the name change goes ahead then I think that a massive percentage of fans like myself who have just sat on the fence at the moment will cause many problems for the club if the name gets changed. I think it will add thousands to regular marches and protests. That's just my opinion but think it could be the last straw for many. Tan will severely divide our clubs supporters big style

Will it bollocks we will have the same apologists making excuses for him.

"oh as long as its got Cardiff in the name"

I have just gone along with it at the moment and have accepted it although not happy same as thousands of Cardiff fans. I think a lot more will make their voices heard if he changes the name - Fact