Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

I've read and re-read this post and I don't particularly want to fall out with the poster but this is a complete crock of shit.The only huge divide as you put it is on this forum which represents a storm in a teacup.

unf. not mate. I'd say over 70% of my Cardiff friends are completely against the rebrand. And that's realy life friends, not on here or on Facebook...

If you think my post my post in a crock of shit, fairplay its your opinion. You're entitled to have yours, just as I have mine.

I think its fair to say if it wasn't for Mr Borley we would be very probably would not be having this argument.

Your correct there, becaus eif the club had gone to the wall, those that brought it about would be in hiding from the shame of bringing and end to our famous well loved club, and all over a colour.

does that include your mate sam,he nearly destroyed are club but you still associate with him,strange

Stef, you need to chill out.

haha it is you...how are you, mate?

All good. Hope you're well.

And i repeat there as been a few of them, i got two different ones tattooed on myself where the bluebird is the main feature, must be before you cam aboard.I would suggest you look back on recent records.

all the previous ones, with the Bluebird as the main feature. I cant make it any clearer, no matter if it was the last one or Sam's St.David's or the circle...all fine as long as the Bluebird is the centre of it

"mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club? "

Those are the words you used,and you refer to changing the crest, so it's not change you mind, it's size then?
So you don't mind change. as long as it stays big.

I lost u there, don't get it

Trolls have won again but I will put the original thread else where

That's not clever Corky accusing the likes of Hofmestier being a troll. He has been consistent with his feelings over this.

Lets be honest now what did you expect from this thread, everyone to glorify Borley? Like it or not Steve has not done himself any favours over the rebrand with his comments decrementing the blue stand. If the article was on Bellamy then there would have not been such a divertion. Borley has put himself in the firing line so expect such a reaction.

Ian, a troll in my opinion is someone who changes the original thread or topic into something else...Steve has done huge work keeping this club alive and it would not have hurt to have a nice thread about that, even if you wan to drag his name through the mud in another thread because he does not support your opinion and he also knows how close this club was to folding.
Simply start your own threads if you want to attack Steve or talk about the re brand, that is all I am saying.

Paul, the mention of Borley or Tan is going to cause such a reaction.

There are lots of people who have done good but when they do something bad that annoys a lot of people that is what they are remembered for. Such is life.

Why does every f*cking thread get hijacked by rebrand posts?????

Can one of the mods, ideally Annis as he owns this board, but if not any mod, explain to me why there is not a separate section for rebrand talk on this board.

I looked at the title of the thread and thought that looks interesting so I'll have a read and within 2-3 posts it's back to the same old same old.

FFS, somebody please move rebrand talk into it's own asylum and let's get back to the football before this MB degenerates into a f*cking shambles!

Trolls have won again but I will put the original thread else where

That's not clever Corky accusing the likes of Hofmestier being a troll. He has been consistent with his feelings over this.

Lets be honest now what did you expect from this thread, everyone to glorify Borley? Like it or not Steve has not done himself any favours over the rebrand with his comments decrementing the blue stand. If the article was on Bellamy then there would have not been such a divertion. Borley has put himself in the firing line so expect such a reaction.

Ian, a troll in my opinion is someone who changes the original thread or topic into something else...Steve has done huge work keeping this club alive and it would not have hurt to have a nice thread about that, even if you wan to drag his name through the mud in another thread because he does not support your opinion and he also knows how close this club was to folding.
Simply start your own threads if you want to attack Steve or talk about the re brand, that is all I am saying.

Paul, the mention of Borley or Tan is going to cause such a reaction.

There are lots of people who have done good but when they do something bad that annoys a lot of people that is what they are remembered for. Such is life.

Bad, like saving the club and keeping us trading you mean.

Stef, you need to chill out.

haha it is you...how are you, mate?

All good. Hope you're well.

I am...just sent u a PM

Why does every f*cking thread get hijacked by rebrand posts?????

Can one of the mods, ideally Annis as he owns this board, but if not any mod, explain to me why there is not a separate section for rebrand talk on this board.

I looked at the title of the thread and thought that looks interesting so I'll have a read and within 2-3 posts it's back to the same old same old.

FFS, somebody please move rebrand talk into it's own asylum and let's get back to the football before this MB degenerates into a f*cking shambles!

Disagree, not all threads are hijacked.

Borley the red fan in it just for the money

What have you done for the club with any money you got Borley put his money where he said he was going to, into the club to keep it going. He didn't try to start up another club unlike some, whatever money Steve gets out of the club good on him. Steve Borley is what I would call a proper Cardiff City fan

Borley the red fan in it just for the money

What have you done for the club with any money you got Borley put his money where he said he was going to, into the club to keep it going. He didn't try to start up another club unlike some, whatever money Steve gets out of the club good on him. Steve Borley is what I would call a proper Cardiff City fan

The only money he has got is what his daddy gives him for pocket money.

Trolls have won again but I will put the original thread else where

That's not clever Corky accusing the likes of Hofmestier being a troll. He has been consistent with his feelings over this.

Lets be honest now what did you expect from this thread, everyone to glorify Borley? Like it or not Steve has not done himself any favours over the rebrand with his comments decrementing the blue stand. If the article was on Bellamy then there would have not been such a divertion. Borley has put himself in the firing line so expect such a reaction.

Ian, a troll in my opinion is someone who changes the original thread or topic into something else...Steve has done huge work keeping this club alive and it would not have hurt to have a nice thread about that, even if you wan to drag his name through the mud in another thread because he does not support your opinion and he also knows how close this club was to folding.
Simply start your own threads if you want to attack Steve or talk about the re brand, that is all I am saying.

Paul, the mention of Borley or Tan is going to cause such a reaction.

There are lots of people who have done good but when they do something bad that annoys a lot of people that is what they are remembered for. Such is life.

Bad, like saving the club and keeping us trading you mean.

I've been through this with you many times Gwyn. You have your opinion and I have mine. Yours is opposite to mine. You have your reasons and I have mine. Neither of us are going to change so we just have to beg to differ.

I hope Steve makes a fortune from CCFC. Not many of us used our kids future inheritance to pay bills to keep this club afloat when most of you ungrateful ***** werent about.

Steve is more CCFC than most of you put together.

The same people ruin another thread under the guise of freedom of speech.

I haven't always agreed with Steve Borley and some of the comments by other posters in this thread do have some substance, however, if you think back to the late Nineties when he was Chairman and was directing the profits made from CMB into CCFC to keep it afloat, then you have to tip the hat to the guy.

I hope Steve makes a fortune from CCFC. Not many of us used our kids future inheritance to pay bills to keep this club afloat when most of you ungrateful ***** werent about.

Steve is more CCFC than most of you put together.

The same people ruin another thread under the guise of freedom of speech.

I haven't always agreed with Steve Borley and some of the comments by other posters in this thread do have some substance, however, if you think back to the late Nineties when he was Chairman and was directing the profits made from CMB into CCFC to keep it afloat, then you have to tip the hat to the guy.

Spot on, just take a look at the CCS and how much work his company did there for cost price, as I sad before a proper City fan

Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

I've read and re-read this post and I don't particularly want to fall out with the poster but this is a complete crock of shit.The only huge divide as you put it is on this forum which represents a storm in a teacup.

unf. not mate. I'd say over 70% of my Cardiff friends are completely against the rebrand. And that's realy life friends, not on here or on Facebook...

If you think my post my post in a crock of shit, fairplay its your opinion. You're entitled to have yours, just as I have mine.

I think its fair to say if it wasn't for Mr Borley we would be very probably would not be having this argument.

Your correct there, becaus eif the club had gone to the wall, those that brought it about would be in hiding from the shame of bringing and end to our famous well loved club, and all over a colour.

does that include your mate sam,he nearly destroyed are club but you still associate with him,strange

How did he nearly destroy the club, who woke it up when we were bottom of the old fourth division with three thousand crowds, lots of people have played a part getting us where we are.

Another great subject ruined. Shame

A real journey for Steve that seen many bad times, I was down the stadium last week and he was there with the builders, sleeves rolled up, helping out with extra seating around the stadium.

How is it ruined? Are City fans still allowed an opinion on the club hierachy corky?

I will tell you why its ruined...it is because this topic was not about the rebrand.

Gavin, don't delete the opinion, simply move it to another thread that is about the re brand.

It's about Borley's reaction to the rebrand, leave the comments here. The day fans are censored from speaking truth to power is the day this board becomes a lesser place.

The rebrand gets brought up nearly every post so I can understand why most get fed up of hearing about it.

Trolls have won again but I will put the original thread else where

That's not clever Corky accusing the likes of Hofmestier being a troll. He has been consistent with his feelings over this.

Lets be honest now what did you expect from this thread, everyone to glorify Borley? Like it or not Steve has not done himself any favours over the rebrand with his comments decrementing the blue stand. If the article was on Bellamy then there would have not been such a divertion. Borley has put himself in the firing line so expect such a reaction.

Ian, a troll in my opinion is someone who changes the original thread or topic into something else...Steve has done huge work keeping this club alive and it would not have hurt to have a nice thread about that, even if you wan to drag his name through the mud in another thread because he does not support your opinion and he also knows how close this club was to folding.
Simply start your own threads if you want to attack Steve or talk about the re brand, that is all I am saying.

Paul, the mention of Borley or Tan is going to cause such a reaction.

There are lots of people who have done good but when they do something bad that annoys a lot of people that is what they are remembered for. Such is life.

Bad, like saving the club and keeping us trading you mean.

I've been through this with you many times Gwyn. You have your opinion and I have mine. Yours is opposite to mine. You have your reasons and I have mine. Neither of us are going to change so we just have to beg to differ.

No problem, most know my reasons are about what I seen was the best if not just the only option open to us to protect the well being of the club, I AM A GAMBLER, BUT NOT WHEN IT CONCERNS THE WELL BEING OF THE CLUB, FAR TO RISKY TO POSSIBLY LOSE THAT. SCUSE CAPITALS, JUST NOTICED CAN'T BE ARSED TO RE WRITE.

And i repeat there as been a few of them, i got two different ones tattooed on myself where the bluebird is the main feature, must be before you cam aboard.I would suggest you look back on recent records.

all the previous ones, with the Bluebird as the main feature. I cant make it any clearer, no matter if it was the last one or Sam's St.David's or the circle...all fine as long as the Bluebird is the centre of it

"mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club? "

Those are the words you used,and you refer to changing the crest, so it's not change you mind, it's size then?
So you don't mind change. as long as it stays big.

I lost u there, don't get it

Well one minute you claim you are being mocked for opposing change, then in the next breath you are saying changing the badge is Ok as long as the Bluebird is the main feature, so it's the size of the Bluebird that matters to you, not the colour or shape or design off the badge, which we all agree as changed many times.

I hope Steve makes a fortune from CCFC. Not many of us used our kids future inheritance to pay bills to keep this club afloat when most of you ungrateful ***** werent about.

Steve is more CCFC than most of you put together.

The same people ruin another thread under the guise of freedom of speech.

The rebrand wasn't necessary you say but how else did you expect us to get the money or commitment of a businessman to ensure our survival? The rebrand was part of the investment package offered and we needed the money so took the rebrand that came with it. You can try and sugarcoat it all you like but that is what happened.

Without the rebrand and the £100m that came with it on offer from Tan, we'd have gone through and that'd would have been much worse. Shocking that some would rather support a phoenix club than the actual club. Im God damn proud our club has never been into administration.

And i repeat there as been a few of them, i got two different ones tattooed on myself where the bluebird is the main feature, must be before you cam aboard.I would suggest you look back on recent records.

all the previous ones, with the Bluebird as the main feature. I cant make it any clearer, no matter if it was the last one or Sam's St.David's or the circle...all fine as long as the Bluebird is the centre of it

"mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club? "

Those are the words you used,and you refer to changing the crest, so it's not change you mind, it's size then?
So you don't mind change. as long as it stays big.

I lost u there, don't get it

Well one minute you claim you are being mocked for opposing change, then in the next breath you are saying changing the badge is Ok as long as the Bluebird is the main feature, so it's the size of the Bluebird that matters to you, not the colour or shape or design off the badge, which we all agree as changed many times.

I oppose the change, as the new crest has the Dragon as the main feature, not the Bluebird. I got no problems with the Dragon itself, but not as the CCFC crest dominant symbol. When Sam changed the badge to the St.David's, I wasnt in favour but it was acceptable to me as it still contained the Bluebird as our main symbol...

I could have lived with a badge like Karl designed. That was real compromise, but unheard as we all know. Also a compromise concerning the colours would have been possible.

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

More lies from a Bu supporter.
keep digging you'll end up wth no one on your march.

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

I think in Steve's position and knowing how close we came to getting wound up, whilst playing in blue would be his choice, keeping the club afloat and trading takes precedence over any personal choice to colour like the majority of real fans that put the club's needs first.

If there had been an alternative, and some mystery investors waiting in the wings to bail us out, then I'm sure Steve may have had a different outlook, but being in the position he is and knowing what he knows, I would put his view way ahead of others who simply had a feeling.

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

is there no end to your failing propaganda crap???

it really is wearing thin now FFS

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

He must have two accounts then because the one I follow is where he just answers back to the abuse he gets

I oppose the change, as the new crest has the Dragon as the main feature, not the Bluebird. I got no problems with the Dragon itself, but not as the CCFC crest dominant symbol. When Sam changed the badge to the St.David's, I wasnt in favour but it was acceptable to me as it still contained the Bluebird as our main symbol...

I could have lived with a badge like Karl designed. That was real compromise, but unheard as we all know. Also a compromise concerning the colours would have been possible.

Compromise is always possible and one was offered at the time of the rebrand. We could have stayed blue but we would have had very limited investment by VT whilst he looked for someone else to take on a football club who were at least £50m in debt at that time. In other words to get the £100m (which apparently is now £120m) we HAD TO COMPROMISE and give up the blue shirt in order to get ourselves out of the financial shit we had got in over the previous 10 years.

No-one likes being red, I certainly don't but I hate the thought of Cardiff City's crest being a High Court stamp with liquidated stamped all over it even less.

Contrary to your previous claim there was a very good reason for the rebrand. You might not see it but thousands of sensible supporters who have the clubs best interests at heart did. That is the brutal truth.

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

Well his stated position is to support the rebrand so it would be odd if he 'stuck up for blue' and congratulated a fans fundamentalists group whose stated aim is to oppose the change and hold a protest march.

Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most.

Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

I think in Steve's position and knowing how close we came to getting wound up, whilst playing in blue would be his choice, keeping the club afloat and trading takes precedence over any personal choice to colour like the majority of real fans that put the club's needs first.

If there had been an alternative, and some mystery investors waiting in the wings to bail us out, then I'm sure Steve may have had a different outlook, but being in the position he is and knowing what he knows, I would put his view way ahead of others who simply had a feeling.

Bang on the money Gwyn. The problem is some are putting a colour before the clubs survival which I find shocking. If we went into admin I wouldn't see us as the same club if we came back as a phoenix club. You can call it history all you want and anyone else can but that club is an establishment and when it goes through, to me in my eyes, it goes through.

The real Swansea fans would have been hurt by administration and would have loved to get where we are and where they are now without having to enter it but that was unfortunate for them and their creditors at the time. Shocking how some see it as some sort of escape route when in reality its worse than the rebrand, its throwing in the towel, admitting to losing everything and accepting you must start from scratch with a bit of help.

We had 2 options and im sure you know that and agree and you made your choice clear on here and the media.

1) Accept the rebrand and the money for survival
2) Don't accept the rebrand and the money for survival

Most wanted 1 because the fear of 2 was too much to take. A colour to me is just a colour, a club is much much much more than a colour.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I completely agree with this, Steve has been magnificent for Cardiff, regardless of what he has to say about the re brand.