Players started arriving once Sam cam back

ok you are right and everyone else is wrong.hows that and everyone of your 11000 plus posts have been very positive to this forum,i bow to your superior knowledge,

ok you are right and everyone else is wrong.hows that and everyone of your 11000 plus posts have been very positive to this forum,i bow to your superior knowledge,

Thanks for the bow but theres no need honestly just a simple read of the thread would have helped as your 1st post made no sence at all to anything related to this topic

ok you said no but did you puppet and master,just like this topic wheres the truth in it its just you rambling on without any solid evidence

all rather pathetic really

Its not. i loves it.

The crux of the matter is that an unbiased High Court Judge who understands
loans/law/business/fraud better than any of us (its his job) says Sam was in it up to his
eyebrows. This after examining thousands of documents. loan notes, invoices, memos
bank statements faxes.

But the inner circle sit around the campfire, sing cwm by yah my lord, drink a few beers
then totally melt when Sam used the immortal words Id Never Lie To You You Are My Family.

group hug.

how could we ever doubt you Papa

ok you said no but did you puppet and master,just like this topic wheres the truth in it its just you rambling on without any solid evidence

evidence of what, if you believe something diffrent please enliten us all to what you think his role is and what did he get out of wiping all the debt??? maybe you can be the 1st to answer me wioth some serious answers its take three pages so far not one person replyed just mocked

Are you pissed? this is the stupidest thing i have EVER read.


Yeah, Sam who ruined Wimbledon and did f**k all for us is the reason we are signing class players

all rather pathetic really

Its not. i loves it.

The crux of the matter is that an unbiased High Court Judge who understands
loans/law/business/fraud better than any of us (its his job) says Sam was in it up to his
eyebrows. This after examining thousands of documents. loan notes, invoices, memos
bank statements faxes.

But the inner circle sit around the campfire, sing cwm by yah my lord, drink a few beers
then totally melt when Sam used the immortal words Id Never Lie To You You Are My Family.

group hug.

how could we ever doubt you Papa

Im not his family if i was i would be on a yacht somewhere hot and not on here, so this high court judge said its him and he had no real documents to get a penny back yet here we are now in todays world and hes back.. maybe Vt gave him a role for just the crack how nice of him.

so if sam hadn't come back we wouldn't have signed any players.now that we have signed players its all down to sam you must be right.lucky sam is back then.

ok you said no but did you puppet and master,just like this topic wheres the truth in it its just you rambling on without any solid evidence

evidence of what, if you believe something diffrent please enliten us all to what you think his role is and what did he get out of wiping all the debt??? maybe you can be the 1st to answer me wioth some serious answers its take three pages so far not one person replyed just mocked

Do you know Sam Hammam?

If Not.

Who would you believe, an unbiased high court judge who said sam WAS langstone

or a very biased Sam Hammam?

Fair question?

Cos if the High Court Judge wasnt lying then Sam has lied to all his minions for years. Correct?

Are you pissed? this is the stupidest thing i have EVER read.


Yeah, Sam who ruined Wimbledon and did f**k all for us is the reason we are signing class players

Stop being bitter oh fearless one answer the two questions ive put in here TWENTY TIMES ( to jinks and anyone else who can answer)

Yes they did give him a role at the club, life some thing or other, but you say all the new signings are down to him, so that is Ballocks imo. Now i'm bored playing your silly game [/quote]
So he got a something role but its all bollocks oh well cheers for the answers on what sam wipped the debt off for, atleast you answered me look past the trees comes to mind if thats your answers to both questions [/quote]

READ what I said,I didn't say the role he was given was Bollocks, What is Bollocks was you saying that the new signings were down to sam and that is imo, I have looked past the trees and you are still talking Bollocks, as I said you are playing silly games so on that note on this thread

Are you pissed? this is the stupidest thing i have EVER read.


Yeah, Sam who ruined Wimbledon and did f**k all for us is the reason we are signing class players

Stop being bitter oh fearless one answer the two questions ive put in here TWENTY TIMES ( to jinks and anyone else who can answer)

I aint read past the first idiotic post, was hard enough work after bally laughing for half hour at the thread title

ok you said no but did you puppet and master,just like this topic wheres the truth in it its just you rambling on without any solid evidence

evidence of what, if you believe something diffrent please enliten us all to what you think his role is and what did he get out of wiping all the debt??? maybe you can be the 1st to answer me wioth some serious answers its take three pages so far not one person replyed just mocked

Do you know Sam Hammam?

If Not.

Who would you believe, an unbiased high court judge who said sam WAS langstone

or a very biased Sam Hammam?

Fair question?

Cos if the High Court Judge wasnt lying then Sam has lied to all his minions for years. Correct?

Met him twice, whats a judge got to do with him being back at the club now weather he was langston or not the way i see it hes being payed off a certain amount of money and got a role at the club so whats a judge got to do with what went on if we went off the case you speak of HE WOULDNT GET f**k ALL yet hes here at the club so your post makes no sence mate

bluebird 1977 if you are working on track tonight I would give it a miss just in case you get d and a

bluebird 1977 if you are working on track tonight I would give it a miss just in case you get d and a

Ive had three randoms in the last five months funny enough, all past to

Are you pissed? this is the stupidest thing i have EVER read.


Yeah, Sam who ruined Wimbledon and did f**k all for us is the reason we are signing class players

Stop being bitter oh fearless one answer the two questions ive put in here TWENTY TIMES ( to jinks and anyone else who can answer)

I aint read past the first idiotic post, was hard enough work after bally laughing for half hour at the thread title

That sums up what your going to bring to this fine thread then, cool

all rather pathetic really

Its not. i loves it.

The crux of the matter is that an unbiased High Court Judge who understands
loans/law/business/fraud better than any of us (its his job) says Sam was in it up to his
eyebrows. This after examining thousands of documents. loan notes, invoices, memos
bank statements faxes.

But the inner circle sit around the campfire, sing cwm by yah my lord, drink a few beers
then totally melt when Sam used the immortal words Id Never Lie To You You Are My Family.

group hug.

how could we ever doubt you Papa

Im not his family if i was i would be on a yacht somewhere hot and not on here, so this high court judge said its him and he had no real documents to get a penny back yet here we are now in todays world and hes back.. maybe Vt gave him a role for just the crack how nice of him.

Dont ignore the bit above. Langston were owed money, thats not under dispute. The dispute
is, Sam says he WAS NOT Langston. If it had been proved he was he'd have likely done bird
But Tan didnt want to wait til 2016. Why? well because Langstone would STILL have been
owed money. He wanted it settled, Sam wanted it settled for different reasons
So he's Honorary President? Hes not even on the board lad. Hes not allowed in the Boardroom.
He's not allowed down the Vale without clearing it with Malky. It is a meaningless title meant
to save face. Thats it. Or do you have some tales of stuff hes done since he got the title. apart
from him sucking the dick of Tan in his interview (as per orders ) Sam will
do anything to get the money. He is being made to look stupid. Sadly, by default, so are the
people who believed in him. and i dont like that cos they are fellow City fanx

:lol:

In exter yesterday a near miss two LKT between the guys on a kango, the lookouts were about 250 meters apart but these clowns had no site warden , lookouts blowing like f**k while waving there flags like there in a concert with a robbie williams flag yet nobody was moving as all heads was down working on kango's, train gets 50 meters before them toots like f**k they all jump out as there all dragging them who didnt see it out, madness MOMS turn up and D & A the coss for no site warden . nuts it was

all rather pathetic really

Its not. i loves it.

The crux of the matter is that an unbiased High Court Judge who understands
loans/law/business/fraud better than any of us (its his job) says Sam was in it up to his
eyebrows. This after examining thousands of documents. loan notes, invoices, memos
bank statements faxes.

But the inner circle sit around the campfire, sing cwm by yah my lord, drink a few beers
then totally melt when Sam used the immortal words Id Never Lie To You You Are My Family.

group hug.

how could we ever doubt you Papa

Im not his family if i was i would be on a yacht somewhere hot and not on here, so this high court judge said its him and he had no real documents to get a penny back yet here we are now in todays world and hes back.. maybe Vt gave him a role for just the crack how nice of him.

Dont ignore the bit above. Langston were owed money, thats not under dispute. The dispute
is, Sam says he WAS NOT Langston. If it had been proved he was he'd have likely done bird
But Tan didnt want to wait til 2016. Why? well because Langstone would STILL have been
owed money. He wanted it settled, Sam wanted it settled for different reasons
So he's Honorary President? Hes not even on the board lad. Hes not allowed in the Boardroom.
He's not allowed down the Vale without clearing it with Malky. It is a meaningless title meant
to save face. Thats it. Or do you have some tales of stuff hes done since he got the title. apart
from him sucking the dick of Tan in his interview (as per orders ) Sam will
do anything to get the money. He is being made to look stupid. Sadly, by default, so are the
people who believed in him. and i dont like that cos they are fellow City fanx

Who even mentioned langstone or sam being it or not so i dont understand what or how this is a dispute, the thread title is about now at the club sams here today yet he has somebody in the boardroom so your wrong 100%, you also say hes not doing anything or can not say anything without permission and been made to look silly thats your opinion. I have no idea what your post has to do with this thread topic or why i would have to save face as you call it as its you who has changed the subject to another for some bizzare reason as SAMS deal is done now its gone and dusted, we harped on about langston for years thats gone pal

ok you said no but did you puppet and master,just like this topic wheres the truth in it its just you rambling on without any solid evidence

evidence of what, if you believe something diffrent please enliten us all to what you think his role is and what did he get out of wiping all the debt??? maybe you can be the 1st to answer me wioth some serious answers its take three pages so far not one person replyed just mocked

Do you know Sam Hammam?

If Not.

Who would you believe, an unbiased high court judge who said sam WAS langstone

or a very biased Sam Hammam?

Fair question?

Cos if the High Court Judge wasnt lying then Sam has lied to all his minions for years. Correct?

Met him twice, whats a judge got to do with him being back at the club now weather he was langston or not the way i see it hes being payed off a certain amount of money and got a role at the club so whats a judge got to do with what went on if we went off the case you speak of HE WOULDNT GET f**k ALL yet hes here at the club so your post makes no sence mate

This boils down to one thing.
Sam Hammam said he wasnt Langston.
A High Court Judge no less says he was.
You believe Sam Hammam. The man who nearly took Cardiff City to the wall.
Crack on. Your seat on the coach is safe

ok you said no but did you puppet and master,just like this topic wheres the truth in it its just you rambling on without any solid evidence

evidence of what, if you believe something diffrent please enliten us all to what you think his role is and what did he get out of wiping all the debt??? maybe you can be the 1st to answer me wioth some serious answers its take three pages so far not one person replyed just mocked

Do you know Sam Hammam?

If Not.

Who would you believe, an unbiased high court judge who said sam WAS langstone

or a very biased Sam Hammam?

Fair question?

Cos if the High Court Judge wasnt lying then Sam has lied to all his minions for years. Correct?

Met him twice, whats a judge got to do with him being back at the club now weather he was langston or not the way i see it hes being payed off a certain amount of money and got a role at the club so whats a judge got to do with what went on if we went off the case you speak of HE WOULDNT GET f**k ALL yet hes here at the club so your post makes no sence mate

This boils down to one thing.
Sam Hammam said he wasnt Langston.
A High Court Judge no less says he was.
You believe Sam Hammam. The man who nearly took Cardiff City to the wall.
Crack on. Your seat on the coach is safe

I dont care who langstone is or isnt you brought it up for some bizzare reason, this thread is about his role at the club and what did he get for the debt being wiped out, langston is in the past now tans sorted a deal incase you forgot, we played the langston violin for years on here so no idea what a judge has to do with this thread headline

all rather pathetic really

Its not. i loves it.

The crux of the matter is that an unbiased High Court Judge who understands
loans/law/business/fraud better than any of us (its his job) says Sam was in it up to his
eyebrows. This after examining thousands of documents. loan notes, invoices, memos
bank statements faxes.

But the inner circle sit around the campfire, sing cwm by yah my lord, drink a few beers
then totally melt when Sam used the immortal words Id Never Lie To You You Are My Family.

group hug.

how could we ever doubt you Papa

Im not his family if i was i would be on a yacht somewhere hot and not on here, so this high court judge said its him and he had no real documents to get a penny back yet here we are now in todays world and hes back.. maybe Vt gave him a role for just the crack how nice of him.

Dont ignore the bit above. Langston were owed money, thats not under dispute. The dispute
is, Sam says he WAS NOT Langston. If it had been proved he was he'd have likely done bird
But Tan didnt want to wait til 2016. Why? well because Langstone would STILL have been
owed money. He wanted it settled, Sam wanted it settled for different reasons
So he's Honorary President? Hes not even on the board lad. Hes not allowed in the Boardroom.
He's not allowed down the Vale without clearing it with Malky. It is a meaningless title meant
to save face. Thats it. Or do you have some tales of stuff hes done since he got the title. apart
from him sucking the dick of Tan in his interview (as per orders ) Sam will
do anything to get the money. He is being made to look stupid. Sadly, by default, so are the
people who believed in him. and i dont like that cos they are fellow City fanx

Who even mentioned langstone or sam being it or not so i dont understand what or how this is a dispute, the thread title is about now at the club sams here today yet he has somebody in the boardroom so your wrong 100%, you also say hes not doing anything or can not say anything without permission and been made to look silly thats your opinion. I have no idea what your post has to do with this thread topic or why i would have to save face as you call it as its you who has changed the subject to another for some bizzare reason as SAMS deal is done now its gone and dusted, we harped on about langston for years thats gone pal

Your trying to rub peoples noses in it that hes somehow back on board. Under orders are you?
The fact is, its an Honorary title, a face saver. He had the same title off Ridsdale. He is
nothing. His token feller on the board will be gone in a few months. If I'm wrong i will
personally meet you and give you £100. The whole charade is so Hammam doesnt look like
hes skulking off into the night. But he is. He's been seen off for half Langstons money.
Again, how the flying f**k can he explain that to his Bosses at Langston. Who on earth can
afford to walk away from £17m? If you used logic you'd see it. Have a mind of your own.

Tan respects Sam's views on football and I hope Tan uses Sam in the right way and that is to try and repair the split in the fan base come match days. Bluebirds Unite can do their thing, they have their beliefs and their right to stand up for them. Those who don't want Bluebirds Unite doing their thing or those happy to just get on with things have equal right to do what they want to do but I would like it if on match day Sam takes his role up in the fullest and gets the crowd going absolutely mental like he did at the Leeds United game. If only for 90 minutes of play he gets the fans united as one and turns the CCS into a fortress as many pundits predict it will be then it will be something.

Some wont ever forgive Sam and thats their decision and theirs only. Some will see that the future of Cardiff City is what it is and we either try and unite and become a force together for the greater good of everyone or we continue on our fractured paths trying to score petty points.

Theres no doubting Tan has the business acumen but his knowledge on football is somewhat embarrassing and I do believe he sanctioned the move for Velikonja, not Malky, hence Malky's unwillingness to play him often. The media and so on will put it down to a failing by Malky but I honestly believe he weren't Malky's signing. How can a manager who has a desire to sign players of a certain mould sign such a lethargic Berbatov-esque player who floats around and is more of a poacher than a workaholic? It doesn't fit the MO at all.

Sam got the business side wrong at times, we all make mistakes, his was a big one and some will never forget that but some of us appreciated his football knowledge at times and his passion. He was passionate. A bloke doesn't walk around the pitch and get involved with the fans if they're not passionate, they stay back, stay strict and play their cards without giving a shit if thats the way they are just as Hicks and Gillett did at Liverpool.

If Sam was truly intent on ripping us off and leaving us in the shitter then why did he integrate with the fans so soon and get involved? Seems a very silly move to me leaving yourself open and known. Sam ain't stupid. He got involved, got deeper than he thought it would go and made a mistake and couldn't dig his way out of it.

The fact is, Sam is more a football man and one of us than he is a business man and one of Tan's brigade. Hes now in the perfect role to assist but not have the final say on signing things off. We as fans get things wrong and Sam is the same, only human and thats why he made a mistake, like we all do.

Sam says so and so looks good, I got contacts here and can get this sorted. Tan says how much and then gets Malky involved and asks if Malky likes the look of this player and if he will benefit the team. Malky says either yes or no. If yes then Sam goes ahead and makes the call and starts pulling some strings on the deal and Tan gets the final say on the transfer amount thats fine by me as Sam is only there making suggestions as me, Annis, Chuckles or Carl could. Suggestions or recommendations never hurt anybody.

I think what we have now is the ideal situation and some will still disagree.

Tan - business man who knows very little about football culture on these shores - sorts the money out - has the final say and gets the deals done.

Sam - more of a football man with a background in business and knows football culture in this country with no problem at all and religious in fact to the degree he wanted to turn us into a Celtic type team who were feared - gives suggestions using his football knowledge and contacts - doesn't have the final say.

Malky - manager who knows what he wants and a team he knows he can build given the right resources - he now has the right recruitment staff, Sam as a point of contact for suggestions and someone who opens up new avenues in the football world for dealings and Tan pulling the strings financially.

As long as that's the way it stays then the club is in the ideal position and that's fine and will be the best all around. Put it this way, I'd rather have Sam giving suggestions to Malky than Tan telling Malky who to buy. All 3 have strengths, all 3 have weaknesses and as long as they realise what they are and stick to using their strengths for the clubs greater good then we're on to a winner.

f**k me barnett thats the best post ever from you, people just can not see two sides of the fence which is not hard to see really with an open mind the troubl is you mention tan people say your anti tan and if you mention sam people say your up his arse yet THESE PEOPLE are within the club why can we not speak of such things

Life president is just an honorary title like VT getting an honorary diploma means piss all, Sam has nothing whatsoever to do with signings, you must be really slow if you think he has, the sooner you stop stirring the better, Sams sycophant

I do find it strange having Sam back. I've had the impression there was no love lost between the Malaysians and him.

I don't think Tan would have had Sam back unless he could get some use out of him. I can see Sam being used as some sort of consultant here. In fact Sams experience fits in nicely here. He took a team smaller than Swansea to the top and kept them there for quite a while. Perhaps its not so strange having Sam back then.

Tan respects Sam's views on football and I hope Tan uses Sam in the right way and that is to try and repair the split in the fan base come match days. Bluebirds Unite can do their thing, they have their beliefs and their right to stand up for them. Those who don't want Bluebirds Unite doing their thing or those happy to just get on with things have equal right to do what they want to do but I would like it if on match day Sam takes his role up in the fullest and gets the crowd going absolutely mental like he did at the Leeds United game. If only for 90 minutes of play he gets the fans united as one and turns the CCS into a fortress as many pundits predict it will be then it will be something.

Some wont ever forgive Sam and thats their decision and theirs only. Some will see that the future of Cardiff City is what it is and we either try and unite and become a force together for the greater good of everyone or we continue on our fractured paths trying to score petty points.

Theres no doubting Tan has the business acumen but his knowledge on football is somewhat embarrassing and I do believe he sanctioned the move for Velikonja, not Malky, hence Malky's unwillingness to play him often. The media and so on will put it down to a failing by Malky but I honestly believe he weren't Malky's signing. How can a manager who has a desire to sign players of a certain mould sign such a lethargic Berbatov-esque player who floats around and is more of a poacher than a workaholic? It doesn't fit the MO at all.

Sam got the business side wrong at times, we all make mistakes, his was a big one and some will never forget that but some of us appreciated his football knowledge at times and his passion. He was passionate. A bloke doesn't walk around the pitch and get involved with the fans if they're not passionate, they stay back, stay strict and play their cards without giving a shit if thats the way they are just as Hicks and Gillett did at Liverpool.

If Sam was truly intent on ripping us off and leaving us in the shitter then why did he integrate with the fans so soon and get involved? Seems a very silly move to me leaving yourself open and known. Sam ain't stupid. He got involved, got deeper than he thought it would go and made a mistake and couldn't dig his way out of it.

The fact is, Sam is more a football man and one of us than he is a business man and one of Tan's brigade. Hes now in the perfect role to assist but not have the final say on signing things off. We as fans get things wrong and Sam is the same, only human and thats why he made a mistake, like we all do.

Sam says so and so looks good, I got contacts here and can get this sorted. Tan says how much and then gets Malky involved and asks if Malky likes the look of this player and if he will benefit the team. Malky says either yes or no. If yes then Sam goes ahead and makes the call and starts pulling some strings on the deal and Tan gets the final say on the transfer amount thats fine by me as Sam is only there making suggestions as me, Annis, Chuckles or Carl could. Suggestions or recommendations never hurt anybody.

I think what we have now is the ideal situation and some will still disagree.

Tan - business man who knows very little about football culture on these shores - sorts the money out - has the final say and gets the deals done.

Sam - more of a football man with a background in business and knows football culture in this country with no problem at all and religious in fact to the degree he wanted to turn us into a Celtic type team who were feared - gives suggestions using his football knowledge and contacts - doesn't have the final say.

Malky - manager who knows what he wants and a team he knows he can build given the right resources - he now has the right recruitment staff, Sam as a point of contact for suggestions and someone who opens up new avenues in the football world for dealings and Tan pulling the strings financially.

As long as that's the way it stays then the club is in the ideal position and that's fine and will be the best all around. Put it this way, I'd rather have Sam giving suggestions to Malky than Tan telling Malky who to buy. All 3 have strengths, all 3 have weaknesses and as long as they realise what they are and stick to using their strengths for the clubs greater good then we're on to a winner.

Fab. Who told you Vincent Tan respects Sam Hammams views on football?
Any evidence to suggest he's asked Sam ONE football question? No? Thought not

Life president is just an honorary title like VT getting an honorary diploma means piss all, Sam has nothing whatsoever to do with signings, you must be really slow if you think he has, the sooner you stop stirring the better, Sams sycophant

Ok so your saying in a nutshell he got piss all then basically for wiping off all the debt yet its deemed stirring, i wish you was my bank manager i would get money for free as you would want nothing back in return of course

Same old jinks avoiding answering. You can not say 100percent he DID NOT have anything to do with signings so again ......what's his role???? What did get get for wiping out all the debt? ?


Lots of mocking going on yet NOT ONE answer just joke replys that he got nothing or side tracking to avoid what I've asked. Take the blindfolds off people or better still go stick money in something and get nothing back seems your such good people.

Can you say 100% Sam was behind the signings?
Are you saying that these signings would not have been made if Sam wasn't here?

Annis posted that your thread was deleted because of daya and if you wanted you could post it again and you did

Ok I'm asnwering you once more but please reply to what I'm asking YOU.
Can you say that your 100 percent sure he had nothing to do with helping MM get players in, I mean the last two signings was much better than a league of wales striker and a brentford GK was they not much better name players jinks. I didn't see players like this in the bigger name que before sam come.

On your second part of your post annis did say in another thread that daya had ruined the thread and I should post it again yet I replyed with a NO. So you will have to ask annis why he put a quote up and started this thread.


Again jinks.

What is sams role at the club?
What did he get in return for wiping out all the debt? other than this supposed (life president role) nobody knows what that is mind.

I won't ask again as its taken five replys now yet answering all you have asked me but you can not reply in the same manner to questions only avoid them

You have avoided my questions..

Can you say 100% Sam was the reason we made these signings? YES OR NO?

Are you saying that these signings would not have been made if Sam wasn't here? YES OR NO?

The truth will always be hidden once its seen, no idea if daya ruined the thread late last night as I went to bed not long after he turned up on his happy days name, sams pulling some strings let's face it

You have been on this site for years and as far I am aware have always talked sense where is all this nonsense coming from all of a sudden ?

Exactly. Its embarrassing and a shame

My first post on this board and sadly it might upset the OP.

That Sam Hammam has come back and 'rescued' this clubs transfer market dealings with his 'knowledge of the game' has to be the silliest, seriously my friend, the silliest thing i have ever read.

When he was at Wimbledon, Hammam was not dealing at the higher levels in the transfer market. He was dealing with a close-knit club that were NOT famous for spending big or attracting big players ever.

When he was here, the same was the case, and we were not attracting big name playeerrs - in fact we were continually 'used' by agents and players to get interest from other clubs. We could not attract big name players, certainly not big-name players that had anything left in the tank.

That Sam Hammam has lent his 'expertise' in the signing of Cornelius or Medel (its unlikely either will even have heard of him) is daft. Caulker didnt come here because Sam was 'in the background making the right noises' and neither did Brayford.

Sam nearly took this club to the wall - in fact he tried to ruin us- so its difficult to see that his 'expertise in the game' made this club attractive to anyone.

His record is Wimbledon - enough said, and Cardiff City - lucky escape from the wall.

Sam Hammam has no influence whatsoever at the club, none at all. If you think a billionaire from Malaysia who got this club promoted, got us a great manager and a great promotion winning squad, is suddenly going to turn to Sam for advice, youre deluded.

Sam Hammam is yesterdays news, for gods sake look to the future man.

Unless you ARE Sam.

Sorry, crap first post but it had to be said!