Cardiff's drug problem

Look how paranoid the gypos are

Here's another link you might be interested in...
http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/2013/130314-gypsy-traveller-caravan-count-january-2013-en.pdf

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No. of Gypsy caravans in Swansea = 29.
No. of Gypsy caravans in Cardiff = 182.

Thats a ratio of more than 6 to 1.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

You can tell that it really gets to you

The gypos showing their jealousy for their great capital city, nothing new here

Fourth worst in the UK.Swansea didn't even make the list.Another myth blown out the water,just like the Gypo slur.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ntres.html

Perhaps we mistook your standard Swansea family man for a junkie. very sorry about that but we dress and conduct ourselves a bit differently down here.

what an odd statement, of course cardiff has more unemployed, its way bigger....
guess what bristol has more again, and manchester more again....

lots of wealth in the Capital, something you dont see elsewhere, you only have to see the centre of the city to realise this, st.davids 2 has increased everything about the centre including its size. Swansea centre reminds me of Roath, in fact, even Roath has fewer boarded up places....

you guys are seriously getting desperate, relax, enjoy it, its only football.

Cardiff is about a third bigger than swansea and if you take that into account it would take Swansea's unempolyment to about 6800 still a lot lower than what it is in cardiff

It don't work like that. Go to uni and study economics rather than coming out with misinformed predictions like that.

This is all because drugs policy is decided by sheltered politicians who know nothing about drugs or addiction. If they would listen to scientists and social workers the problems could be reduced massively.

perhaps if they wanted to get people off smack or booze they could point them in the way of fellowships that have decent rates of recovery.often the councillors that people are see are uni trained with no exp of drug addiction/alcoholism first hand.i can asure you when a person who wants to stop (this being the key)talks to a recovered/recovering person it is far easier for them to connect than with a person who has never suffered from the pain of addiction or whatever title it has these days.as for keeping people off drugs in the first place then that is down to the individual.if a person sees drugs/drink as a way out, a comfort blanket for a world they feel they dont fit in then there isn,t a lot anyone can do.proof of this?pop stars in penthouses with no money probs etc still feel lonely and isolated even though they have people galore around then.being lonely and being alone are different things.i detest what drugs and to a certain degree booze are doing to people in this country but i really fail to see what a bunch of mp,s,scientist and social workers are going to do to prevent this.even in the boom years of the 80,s and blairs good years we still had addiction and alcoholism.it doesnt stop because the social climate means we can earn a few quid or we have nicer houses to live in.also the heroin problem in my town (ex mining town)20 miles from brum is prob per head at least as big if not bigger than brum.heroin is i believe a drug used by white people in the main so white areas will have this problem.iv noticed the more liberal as a society we have become the more people are looking for things to fix them .i speak from exp regarding drink.there is a way out but the person needs to want to quit.strange as it may seem some of the sad souls we see huddled up in a doorway or begging in the centre of town still will have a way to go before they surrender to the fact that they need help to recover.

This is all because drugs policy is decided by sheltered politicians who know nothing about drugs or addiction. If they would listen to scientists and social workers the problems could be reduced massively.

Science and Politics don't mix. Science is based on logical findings derived from research. Politics is based on chatting as much shit as you can to make your argument stick and convince the weak and easily led within society that the rhetorical shit that comes from your mouth is factual information. There's a reason there are very few UK politicians with a scientific background.

Scientists value evidence-based policy; politicians want policy-based evidence.

Our cabinet should be made up of doctors, medicine experts who understand the pharmaceutical industry and health issues - physicists who know how to better our lives and implement socio/economic changes to get them to reality faster/biologists who can understand the human body and what is good and right for it as well as animal rights because they'd understand the intelligence level of an animal and whether it feels pain and so forth - chemistry experts who understand how to bring new compounds to the fore to better lives and provide alternative energy solutions - technological and computer scientists who can bring new technologies forward faster as they understand things better.

Politicians know bugger all to put it bluntly and yet all these top level skilled people have to work under these idiots who don't have the slightest clue about such information. If I go to work at a web design firm then the boss should know about web technologies so that if i'm wrong he can explain why and we can come to an amicable solution together and give the customer the best product. If he don't know and says im wrong on what basis does he prove that im wrong when he knows sod all about the trade at hand? Same for politicians, most of them don't understand biology, physics, maths to a sufficient level, computing, networking, business etc.

Most have this path.

Nursery ---> Primary School ---> Secondary School ---> High School ---> College/6th Form ---> BA degree or something. (not slating all BA's or the people who do them by the way - architecture and so forth are very skilled)

Its been proven time and time again scientists are the most intelligent yet they continue to put less intelligent people in power. Hilarious in one way, scandalous in another. Now i'm not claiming every scientist is going to be brilliant at running the country but at least give people a bloody change instead of presenting people with buffoons who just chat shit. The USA had George Bush who's IQ level was clearly around room temperature given some of the shite he came out with. Now they have Obama who has lied so many times its hilarious and yet continously people fall for it. The same happens here as well.

There are people on this forum who whether trained through university or on the job or through apprenticeships would be better placed to talk about policy implementation and so on. There are engineers on here who've fixed cars, installed Sky or VM or BT at peoples houses who think more logically than politicians do and would know more about such things than politicians. I'd rather listen to Owain talk about internet policy and for him to have the say having spoken to him and knowing he is knowledgeable in the area than a politician.

Therein lies the problem. Lions led by donkeys.

thats all well and good except for a few problems

1 we do have politicians who are experts in their respective fields doctors and scientists

2 if you want experts to be in government or to be your voice you have to vote for them or in turn persuade these experts to stand for election

3 statistics will read whatever you want them to read, crime has reduced in this area HAPPY DAYS or crime is still very prevalent in this area MUST DO SOMETHING.

4 Cost maybe the best policy isnt the most cost effective and that needs to be factored when writing policy.

5 MPs have a difficult job they have to speak for a whole area and shock horror not everybody in that area agrees with each other. Government speaks on behalf of a nation and the nation never agrees either.

The last thing id call any government minister or mp is a donkey

but to make a real point against your whole argument, what are the civil service doing because that is where the experts you want so badly are supposed to be advising government, why dont your lions roar from there?

what an odd statement, of course cardiff has more unemployed, its way bigger....
guess what bristol has more again, and manchester more again....

lots of wealth in the Capital, something you dont see elsewhere, you only have to see the centre of the city to realise this, st.davids 2 has increased everything about the centre including its size. Swansea centre reminds me of Roath, in fact, even Roath has fewer boarded up places....

you guys are seriously getting desperate, relax, enjoy it, its only football.

Cardiff is about a third bigger than swansea and if you take that into account it would take Swansea's unempolyment to about 6800 still a lot lower than what it is in cardiff

It don't work like that. Go to uni and study economics rather than coming out with misinformed predictions like that.

It was also reported in the wales on sunday news paper this year that 41000 people of working age in cardiff have never done a days paid work in their live, one of the highest of any city in the uk.

Look how paranoid the gypos are

Here's another link you might be interested in...
http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/2013/130314-gypsy-traveller-caravan-count-january-2013-en.pdf

Page 4..

No. of Gypsy caravans in Swansea = 29.
No. of Gypsy caravans in Cardiff = 182.

Thats a ratio of more than 6 to 1.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

You can tell that it really gets to you

The gypos showing their jealousy for their great capital city, nothing new here

Have you been down rover way

Whenever there's a story in the press about drug abuse in Swansea there's nothing but sneering and abuse, but it's funny how when the shoe is on the other foot and it's Cardiff under the spotlight you all become a bunch of limp wristed, lentil eating, goatee sporting, left wing sypathisers! I know we're rivals and all, but make your minds up FFS!

Whenever there's a story in the press about drug abuse in Swansea there's nothing but sneering and abuse, but it's funny how when the shoe is on the other foot and it's Cardiff under the spotlight you all become a bunch of limp wristed, lentil eating, goatee sporting, left wing sypathisers! I know we're rivals and all, but make your minds up FFS!

We sneer at it because swanseas a f*cking shithole that's why!

Because Cardiff is a big capital and a big city, there is no doubt we would be on the list ffs.

Whenever there's a story in the press about drug abuse in Swansea there's nothing but sneering and abuse, but it's funny how when the shoe is on the other foot and it's Cardiff under the spotlight you all become a bunch of limp wristed, lentil eating, goatee sporting, left wing sypathisers! I know we're rivals and all, but make your minds up FFS!

We sneer at it because swanseas a f*cking shithole that's why!

Fair enough Murph, but if you want to call Swansea a shit hole based on the number of pikeys/druggies/benefit scroungers that inhabit the city then you must tar Cardiff with the same brush. Not forgetting Tonyrefail of course.

Because Cardiff is a big capital and a big city, there is no doubt we would be on the list ffs.

Relatively speaking Cardiff is neither a big capital, or a big city.
Just saying.

Because Cardiff is a big capital and a big city, there is no doubt we would be on the list ffs.

Relatively speaking Cardiff is neither a big capital, or a big city.
Just saying.

We are.

Because Cardiff is a big capital and a big city, there is no doubt we would be on the list ffs.

Relatively speaking Cardiff is neither a big capital, or a big city.
Just saying.

We are.

You certainly are not.

These are big capital cities....

1 China Beijing 20,693,000
2 Japan Tokyo 13,189,000
3 Russia Moscow 11,541,000
4 South Korea Seoul 10,528,774
5 Indonesia Jakarta 10,187,595
6 Iran Tehran 9,110,347
7 Mexico Mexico City 8,851,080
8 Peru Lima 8,481,415
9 Thailand Bangkok 8,249,117
10 United Kingdom London 8,174,100
11 Colombia Bogotá 7,613,303
12 Egypt Cairo 7,438,376
13 Iraq Baghdad 7,216,040
14 Hong Kong (China) Hong Kong 7,136,300
15 Bangladesh Dhaka 6,080,671
16 Singapore Singapore 5,312,000
17 Chile Santiago 5,084,038
18 Turkey Ankara 4,890,893
19 Saudi Arabia Riyadh 4,878,723
20 Democratic Republic of the Congo Kinshasa 4,385,264

etc, etc, etc.

Cardiff has a paltry 346,100 and therefore cannot possibly be classed as a "big" capital city.

Just counting the British Capital cities, Cardiff comes 3rd out of 3!

Swansea is smack head central

It don't work like that. Go to uni and study economics rather than coming out with misinformed predictions like that.

It was also reported in the wales on sunday news paper this year that 41000 people of working age in cardiff have never done a days paid work in their live, one of the highest of any city in the uk.

That doesn't surprise me. There are plenty of dole lovers in Cardiff and it will always be the case until someone gets strict with them and says enough is enough. Same with any City in the UK. It still doesn't take away from the fact what you said was misinformed.

Plenty of travellers (politically correct ) in Cardiff and Swansea as well as people on benefits abusing the system and drug users. Thats Britain of today for you.