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Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:44 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.



Surely that is not true, the man has been good to his more and then some, delivering even more than he promised.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:51 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.



Surely that is not true, the man has been good to his more and then some, delivering even more than he promised.


At a very high cost indeed, for me. Watching the team is like watching something inbetween Cardiff City and Nottingham Forest. It's all just so muted.

And so totally unneccesary. That's why working with Tan, letting him know what our identity means to us is so important.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:02 am

CardiffKid wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Thats that sorted then :|

Come on, it's about showing pride in the city, and letting Tan know what it means to us. Not for everyone, but I'm really glad it's going ahead and proud of the City fans who've organised it.

BLUEBIRDS!


Hopefully it will be pissing down on the day of action

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:06 pm

CardiffAnt wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Thats that sorted then :|

Come on, it's about showing pride in the city, and letting Tan know what it means to us. Not for everyone, but I'm really glad it's going ahead and proud of the City fans who've organised it.

BLUEBIRDS!


Hopefully it will be pissing down on the day of action

dear god, it can snow for all I care - so anti- blue on here its shocking to many. CCFC :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:14 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.



Surely that is not true, the man has been good to his more and then some, delivering even more than he promised.


Bollocks. His mouthpiece promised us that the rebranding wouldn't be happening the next season, it then happened anyway. I consider that a lie which is why I don't trust him at all.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:23 pm

taffy123 wrote:
CardiffAnt wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Thats that sorted then :|

Come on, it's about showing pride in the city, and letting Tan know what it means to us. Not for everyone, but I'm really glad it's going ahead and proud of the City fans who've organised it.

BLUEBIRDS!


Hopefully it will be pissing down on the day of action

dear god, it can snow for all I care - so anti- blue on here its shocking to many. CCFC :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Anti-blue? For not agreeing with you?

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:00 pm

englishbluebird wrote:
taffy123 wrote:
CardiffAnt wrote:
Hopefully it will be pissing down on the day of action

dear god, it can snow for all I care - so anti- blue on here its shocking to many. CCFC :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Anti-blue? For not agreeing with you?


Anyone who wants it to piss down on the march is not only anti blue but a complete c**t :evil:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:06 pm

Whose voice is that? :banghead:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:10 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.



Surely that is not true, the man has been good to his more and then some, delivering even more than he promised.


Bollocks. His mouthpiece promised us that the rebranding wouldn't be happening the next season, it then happened anyway. I consider that a lie which is why I don't trust him at all.



Totally wrong, but why let the true story spoil your perception. :lol: :lol:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:19 pm

BigGwynram wrote:

Totally wrong, but why let the true story spoil your perception. :lol: :lol:


As smug an answer as I've come to expect from you :roll:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:56 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:

Totally wrong, but why let the true story spoil your perception. :lol: :lol:


As smug an answer as I've come to expect from you :roll:



Not smug, just true unlike your version. :old:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:28 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
CF14-SE14 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:

Totally wrong, but why let the true story spoil your perception. :lol: :lol:


As smug an answer as I've come to expect from you :roll:



Not smug, just true unlike your version. :old:


I'm happy to be proven wrong, but you just telling me I've got the wrong perception of what happened means f**k all.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:39 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
CF14-SE14 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.



Surely that is not true, the man has been good to his more and then some, delivering even more than he promised.


Bollocks. His mouthpiece promised us that the rebranding wouldn't be happening the next season, it then happened anyway. I consider that a lie which is why I don't trust him at all.



Totally wrong, but why let the true story spoil your perception. :lol: :lol:


Totally wrong? True story? A direct quote from Tan's mouthpiece at the time, TG in his initial statement:

"In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered as expressed directly to our local management and through various media and other outlets, we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge."

Gwyn, you're a decent poster when you avoid the rebrand topic, but when you decide to post about the rebrand and make statements like this, you half make yourself look an idiot.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:47 pm

What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:51 pm

ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.


Takes one to know one.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:44 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.


Takes one to know one.


Yes, what a silly c*** I am :roll:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:45 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.


Takes one to know one.


Yes, what a silly c*** I am :roll:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:06 pm

ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.



lmao is that all ? I have already heard that we are killing Cardiff city and we are fake fans so would u like to add any more to that ? otherwise enjoy the march :wave:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:28 pm

ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.


I wish my life was as perfect as your's that I could find fault in Cardiff City fans wearing blue shirts.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 pm

ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.


What a bizarre thing to say. :roll:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:12 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
ccfclover wrote:What a pile of human waste this BU thing is. I mean just what is the point, nothing will change. Seems like a group made up for people who are lonely and insecure.


What a bizarre thing to say. :roll:

And somewhat ironic. :laughing6:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:47 pm

Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.[/quote]


Surely that is not true, the man has been good to his more and then some, delivering even more than he promised.[/quote]

Bollocks. His mouthpiece promised us that the rebranding wouldn't be happening the next season, it then happened anyway. I consider that a lie which is why I don't trust him at all.[/quote]


Totally wrong, but why let the true story spoil your perception. :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Totally wrong? True story? A direct quote from Tan's mouthpiece at the time, TG in his initial statement:

"In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered as expressed directly to our local management and through various media and other outlets, we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge."

Gwyn, you're a decent poster when you avoid the rebrand topic, but when you decide to post about the rebrand and make statements like this, you half make yourself look an idiot.[/quote]


Very selective, missed out the piece apologizing and saying it was never their intention to cause any insult etc and that
they would willingly withdraw their offer to bring about the rebrand and also with draw from the planned investment that was to gop with it.
It was public opinion and the vast majority of supporters realising what was at stake that helped change their minds and convince them to proceed with their proposal.

So hardly a lie just a re- evaluation of proposals after seeing the true picture.

Most real fans were prepared to make the sacrifice because the future and long term existence of the club we loved was at serious risk, so putting out personal preferences as to colour over club was a no brainer to the majority of true fans. :old:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:49 pm

That was then Gwyn, this is now.

What about respectfully and proudly pushing for a return to blue?

Nothing stays the same.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:53 pm

CardiffKid wrote:That was then Gwyn, this is now.

What about respectfully and proudly pushing for a return to blue?

Nothing stays the same.

Excuse me Mr tan you've solved Langstons debt invested in players,got us to the premier league but we've changed our minds can you do a u turn on the rebranding.You accepted my investment,i saved your club and gave you your dream of premier league football you bunch of ungrateful c*nts,no i can't now f*ck off.
That's your meeting with tan over,where red get used to it.
:ayatollah:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:58 pm

redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:That was then Gwyn, this is now.

What about respectfully and proudly pushing for a return to blue?

Nothing stays the same.

Excuse me Mr tan you've solved Langstons debt invested in players,got us to the premier league but we've changed our minds can you do a u turn on the rebranding.You accepted my investment,i saved your club and gave you your dream of premier league football you bunch of ungrateful c*nts,no i can't now f*ck off.
That's your meeting with tan over,where red get used to it.
:ayatollah:


Mate, we are customers, he admitted it himself.

I'd say 95% of his customers would rather us be in blue. I think the club would be in better shape if Tan realised what it meant to many of us (evidently not you, but many of us) and we'd be in better shape going into the premier league.

There is a myth about some sort of contract the fans signed. It never happened. What we want is to liaise and engage with the owner of the club. That isn't much to ask, unless you a total sap that is. Not saying you are, but there is no problem with engagement, consultation and discussion.

To be honest, it's bad business by Tan not to be doing that.

And before you say it's just Tan bankrolling us, that's not true. Us as fans have been paying money into the club for decades, and we deserve some respect.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:15 pm

VT has bankrolled Cardiff City that's a fact.

Cardiff City were losing a million pound a month before vt stepped in.

Without vt its quite probable City would have gone bust.

bu need to give it a rest their getting on peoples nerves.

As for their protest,well I'm appalled,they should hang their heads in shame while marching.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:56 pm

CardiffKid wrote:That was then Gwyn, this is now.

What about respectfully and proudly pushing for a return to blue?

Nothing stays the same.



Nothing stays the same, so why such a fuss?

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:07 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:That was then Gwyn, this is now.

What about respectfully and proudly pushing for a return to blue?

Nothing stays the same.



Nothing stays the same, so why such a fuss?


Because the rebrand is feckin shite :lol:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:08 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:That was then Gwyn, this is now.

What about respectfully and proudly pushing for a return to blue?

Nothing stays the same.



Nothing stays the same, so why such a fuss?


Spot on.
I like the blue, but we are no longer blue.
Adapt or move over.
The club has never been in better hands. ;)

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:09 pm

Mate are customers, he admitted it himself.

Of course we are, what do you consider yourself as then? and as customers if you don't like the product, you are free to take your custom elsewhere, but as soon as you do, there will be a rush of other customers waiting to replace you.


I'd say 95% of his customers would rather us be in blue. I think the club would be in better shape if Tan realised what it meant to many of us (evidently not you, but many of us) and we'd be in better shape going into the premier league.

Better shape? we 'd be lucky to still be trading and in business without his investment, we are in the best shape ever in our history.


There is a myth about some sort of contract the fans signed. It never happened. What we want is to liaise and engage with the owner of the club. That isn't much to ask, unless you a total sap that is. Not saying you are, but there is no problem with engagement, consultation and discussion.

No what you want is for him to change his mind, you can engage all you want, but he owns the club, he calls the shots, if enough people feel strong enough about it and walk away, he'll be forced to change his mind, but it was never going to happen, and never will unless he wants it to, pressure will not help to make him change his mind.


To be honest, it's bad business by Tan not to be doing that.

Bad business,and your advising a successful billionaire how to run his business, if your that good, why din't you buy the club.


And before you say it's just Tan bankrolling us, that's not true. Us as fans have been paying money into the club for decades, and we deserve some respect.[/quote]

Respect, he just saved our club from bankruptcy, if enough of us had felt that strongly and supported the club in enough numbers when it was needed, we would never have needed bailing out, we have reaped what we sowed.