VINCENT TAN LIES TO US, VINCENT OUT

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

Your back on the gear surely, didn't think you could possibly make yourself look more foolish than you have previously, but fair play, you proved me wrong there, are you saying now when the press reported that man u had signed Rooney for twenty million pounds, it was all lies?

Considering you make out that you are a business man, it doesn't look like you understand the finances and way that things work in real world.

Sorry has Tan paid for these transfers then or has the club borrowed from Tan..?
Has the 100%of the reported fees been paid up front..?

Two simple questions which you know the answers would make your statements completely incorrect. FACT However you continue to with your abusive threads because that may make you feel better

When Cardiff City agree a fee this is what they have budgeted for and will have to pay whether now or in the future.Cardiff City have now committed themselves to pay between £25-£30million for players.Which ever way you look at it it's an enormous sum which will get bigger.Well done vt for providing malky with the money to compete in the transfer market.

Does it really matter whether he has paid in full for them yet, the accounts for the year will state X number of pounds spent on transfers, and will show the amount outstanding if any.

However way you look at it, he has purchased players to the value of £17m at present with a reported £9m awaiting on the medical of another player, and thankfully still not finished yet. So yes if it all comes off, he is either lying or had underestimated the value of the players needed when he made his £25m statement. Well done Mr Tan

The OP stated that Tan paid the money so whos accounts are you thinking off the clubs or Tans..? and I would have thought that the amount spent on transfer during a financial year would be the instalement total throughout the year rather than agreed sums which percentages haven't been paid yet. I could be wrong mind

It is the clubs debt at present, but as we owe Tan more than we actually own, it would be Tan who will more than likely be paying the debt. and if he turns his current debt to equity, then as the owner of the club it becomes his debt.

Assets and liabilities are shown in the balance sheet

Does it really matter whether he has paid in full for them yet, the accounts for the year will state X number of pounds spent on transfers, and will show the amount outstanding if any.

However way you look at it, he has purchased players to the value of £17m at present with a reported £9m awaiting on the medical of another player, and thankfully still not finished yet. So yes if it all comes off, he is either lying or had underestimated the value of the players needed when he made his £25m statement. Well done Mr Tan

The OP stated that Tan paid the money so whos accounts are you thinking off the clubs or Tans..? and I would have thought that the amount spent on transfer during a financial year would be the instalement total throughout the year rather than agreed sums which percentages haven't been paid yet. I could be wrong mind

It is the clubs debt at present, but as we owe Tan more than we actually own, it would be Tan who will more than likely be paying the debt. and if he turns his current debt to equity, then as the owner of the club it becomes his debt.

Assets and liabilities are shown in the balance sheet

All 'ifs' and 'buts'at the moment. As you say 'AT PRESENT' its the clubs debt

Are people really saying he's signed because of a Wikipedia edit?

Paul Ince's wiki page was also updated to "plays for Cardiff City FC" before he decided against moving to us.

ANYONE can edit a Wikipedia page... Quick, edit Messi's and get him to play for us.

Barry, surely you meant TOM Ince??

Are people really saying he's signed because of a Wikipedia edit?

Paul Ince's wiki page was also updated to "plays for Cardiff City FC" before he decided against moving to us.

ANYONE can edit a Wikipedia page... Quick, edit Messi's and get him to play for us.

Barry, surely you meant TOM Ince??

Where Paul goes Tom soon trots along.

How much was Medel???

13m Euros has been quoted in various media.

Big money, he's backing us to the hilt, he won't see going down as an option

Where/when did tan say I will personally spend 25 milloin pounds of my own money
Think he said we have abudget of 25 milloin to spend
What ever the terms of any deals the actual cost is the total
Lots of people have called tan a liar for various reason like the white shorts/black shorts that have been unfounded
Dont see many of them on here shouting about his lie regarding our spending on players
Glyn your post was spot on even if very tongue in cheek obviously the usual suspects will have a go and not see through it
Best to just ignore the fu..ing idiots
And im so glad we didnt get paul ince (but who needs to be factually right when you can type faster than others and for longer than others)

Chuckles had a mare here.

So keen to take the moral high ground he named the wring Ince:laughing5:

He told us we had a budget of twenty five million pounds for new players and he's already spend more than that, with even more to come, can we ever trust this man.

Gwyn.....you are awful, but I like you.

Hey polo you just as bad wring dont you mean wrong

Hey polo you just as bad wring dont you mean wrong

It's exactly because of these small errors that this board has gone downhill.

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In fairness we ALL assume things from postings of others. If the assumption is wrong then all the original posters has to do is give an explanation to what he/she REALLY meant.

I look forward to it

Good Call

Hey polo you just as bad wring dont you mean wrong

12 pints of scrumpy

Does it really matter whether he has paid in full for them yet, the accounts for the year will state X number of pounds spent on transfers, and will show the amount outstanding if any.

However way you look at it, he has purchased players to the value of £17m at present with a reported £9m awaiting on the medical of another player, and thankfully still not finished yet. So yes if it all comes off, he is either lying or had underestimated the value of the players needed when he made his £25m statement. Well done Mr Tan

The OP stated that Tan paid the money so whos accounts are you thinking off the clubs or Tans..? and I would have thought that the amount spent on transfer during a financial year would be the instalement total throughout the year rather than agreed sums which percentages haven't been paid yet. I could be wrong mind

It is the clubs debt at present, but as we owe Tan more than we actually own, it would be Tan who will more than likely be paying the debt. and if he turns his current debt to equity, then as the owner of the club it becomes his debt.

Assets and liabilities are shown in the balance sheet

Turning debt into equity means you receive shares instead of cash. He may become the single biggest shareholder but to become the absolute owner he would have to buy out the other shareholders like Borley etc.

Wucky cnut

Southern comfort and coke

He told us we had a budget of twenty five million pounds for new players and he's already spend more than that, with even more to come, can we ever trust this man.

Gwyn.....you are awful, but I like you.

Yes, admittedly VT said that he was giving us £25m, however I always doubted that, since what he also said when he bought the club was "I have no knowledge of football", or something along those lines, so we're dealing with someone who has lots of money who knows nothing about what he's doing, so surely if he quotes something, it's unreasonable to believe him?

He told us we had a budget of twenty five million pounds for new players and he's already spend more than that, with even more to come, can we ever trust this man.

Gwyn.....you are awful, but I like you.

Yes, admittedly VT said that he was giving us £25m, however I always doubted that, since what he also said when he bought the club was "I have no knowledge of football", or something along those lines, so we're dealing with someone who has lots of money who knows nothing about what he's doing, so surely if he quotes something, it's unreasonable to believe him?

My impression is that he knows exactly what he's doing and what he wants.

VINCENT TAN LIES TO US, VINCENT OUT
Here here gywn here f*cking here

He told us we had a budget of twenty five million pounds for new players and he's already spend more than that, with even more to come, can we ever trust this man.

I'm not going to criticise him, but for all your brown-nosing, you do realise we receive £60m from sky and prize money etc, right?

He told us we had a budget of twenty five million pounds for new players and he's already spend more than that, with even more to come, can we ever trust this man.

I'm not going to criticise him, but for all your brown-nosing, you do realise we receive £60m from sky and prize money etc, right?

Serious

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

I've just been told that liverpool have paid off the final instalment of the toshack transfer!!!!

He told us we had a budget of twenty five million pounds for new players and he's already spend more than that, with even more to come, can we ever trust this man.

I'm not going to criticise him, but for all your brown-nosing, you do realise we receive £60m from sky and prize money etc, right?

School holidays will soon be over, then you can get back to doing your three times table.

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

I've just been told that liverpool have paid off the final instalment of the toshack transfer!!!!

Mock all you like facts are facts

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

I've just been told that liverpool have paid off the final instalment of the toshack transfer!!!!

Mock all you like facts are facts

Your right Adam Facts Are Facts which made your assertion that Assem Allam had re-branded Hull City to attract potential investors in his "Native" Asia complete bollocks. Painted strips on a Sphinx yet to back up your FACT based assertion.

Other FACTS you have been spouting for years is that VT was going to cut and run but he is still here, settling Langston, developing a new training ground, extending the stadium, getting us promoted to the Premier League, preparing the club to be listed on the Stock Markets, investing in the playing squad which is pretty much keeping every promise he made at the time of confirming the rebrand.

Another FACT for you is that ALL payments made in transfers are not paid directly by club to club or club to agents etc. All payments are made via the FA who ensure that ALL contractual obligations under the contracts are met in full. If the club signs a player for £10m it doesn't matter one dot if the money is paid upfront as the moment the deal is completed any monies outstanding are "Football Debts" and if a club defaults on a payment the monies will be taken from TV revenues by the FA to complete payments. Cardiff City FC and VT have spent in excess of £25m this summer and that is a FACT.

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

I've just been told that liverpool have paid off the final instalment of the toshack transfer!!!!

Mock all you like facts are facts

Your right Adam Facts Are Facts which made your assertion that Assem Allam had re-branded Hull City to attract potential investors in his "Native" Asia complete bollocks. Painted strips on a Sphinx yet to back up your FACT based assertion.

Other FACTS you have been spouting for years is that VT was going to cut and run but he is still here, settling Langston, developing a new training ground, extending the stadium, getting us promoted to the Premier League, preparing the club to be listed on the Stock Markets, investing in the playing squad which is pretty much keeping every promise he made at the time of confirming the rebrand.

Another FACT for you is that ALL payments made in transfers are not paid directly by club to club or club to agents etc. All payments are made via the FA who ensure that ALL contractual obligations under the contracts are met in full. If the club signs a player for £10m it doesn't matter one dot if the money is paid upfront as the moment the deal is completed any monies outstanding are "Football Debts" and if a club defaults on a payment the monies will be taken from TV revenues by the FA to complete payments. Cardiff City FC and VT have spent in excess of £25m this summer and that is a FACT.

I apologised for my mistake in stating the native country when I meant native continent. However those other facts are complete bollocks.

Brownie you said the Hull owners were from Bangladesh and only when it was pointed out they were from Egyot you tried to worm out this continent bollocks

Wave the white flag SAddam youre out of your depth against Castleblue hes probably the most respected poster on the forum because of his football knowledge.

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

I've just been told that liverpool have paid off the final instalment of the toshack transfer!!!!

Mock all you like facts are facts

Your right Adam Facts Are Facts which made your assertion that Assem Allam had re-branded Hull City to attract potential investors in his "Native" Asia complete bollocks. Painted strips on a Sphinx yet to back up your FACT based assertion.

Other FACTS you have been spouting for years is that VT was going to cut and run but he is still here, settling Langston, developing a new training ground, extending the stadium, getting us promoted to the Premier League, preparing the club to be listed on the Stock Markets, investing in the playing squad which is pretty much keeping every promise he made at the time of confirming the rebrand.

Another FACT for you is that ALL payments made in transfers are not paid directly by club to club or club to agents etc. All payments are made via the FA who ensure that ALL contractual obligations under the contracts are met in full. If the club signs a player for £10m it doesn't matter one dot if the money is paid upfront as the moment the deal is completed any monies outstanding are "Football Debts" and if a club defaults on a payment the monies will be taken from TV revenues by the FA to complete payments. Cardiff City FC and VT have spent in excess of £25m this summer and that is a FACT.

I apologised for my mistake in stating the native country when I meant native continent. However those other facts are complete bollocks.

Specifically what FACTS are wrong.

Does this mean when someone tells you they have bought their house for two hundred thousand pounds, what they should say is I bought it for twenty thousand and I will confirm with you the amount it finally cost me plus the interest rate that as been acrued over the period,

Sounds quite straight forward and I can see this catching on.

How much was that brand new car mate, nothing, I had it for nothing, don't make my first payment for three months so it's a free car. Can't see this confusing anyone.

Man Utd stillowe Everton alarge percentage of the fee agreed for Wayne Rooney so does that mean that Man Utd have already paid them because a fee has been agreed..? NO!!!

Stop trying to twist things Gwyn you were factually incorrect so admit it FFS!!!

I've just been told that liverpool have paid off the final instalment of the toshack transfer!!!!

Mock all you like facts are facts[/quote]


Your right Adam Facts Are Facts which made your assertion that Assem Allam had re-branded Hull City to attract potential investors in his "Native" Asia complete bollocks. Painted strips on a Sphinx yet to back up your FACT based assertion.

Other FACTS you have been spouting for years is that VT was going to cut and run but he is still here, settling Langston, developing a new training ground, extending the stadium, getting us promoted to the Premier League, preparing the club to be listed on the Stock Markets, investing in the playing squad which is pretty much keeping every promise he made at the time of confirming the rebrand.

Another FACT for you is that ALL payments made in transfers are not paid directly by club to club or club to agents etc. All payments are made via the FA who ensure that ALL contractual obligations under the contracts are met in full. If the club signs a player for £10m it doesn't matter one dot if the money is paid upfront as the moment the deal is completed any monies outstanding are "Football Debts" and if a club defaults on a payment the monies will be taken from TV revenues by the FA to complete payments. Cardiff City FC and VT have spent in excess of £25m this summer and that is a FACT.

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I apologised for my mistake in stating the native country when I meant native continent. However those other facts are complete bollocks.[/quote]

Specifically what FACTS are wrong.


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Like many other chairman they will want to leave with a profit so why is VT so different..? Does the term 'cut and run' actually have some time period in your mind then..?

Now now Adam let's stick to the question I asked.


Specifically what FACTS that I mentioned in my reply are as you say COMPLETE BOLLOCKS.