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Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:41 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:


Smartarse response yet again.Can't deal with the point.

Anyway,
Did I say that?
Has VT said that?

We'll just have to wait and see what happens as as things develop but you can't honestly call the rebrand pointless if the man who counts seems to think it is.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:42 pm

VT implied it with his ridiculous rebrand, yes. :thumbup:

I can call the rebrand whatever I wish. :thumbup:

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:43 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:


It has never been suggested that Asians wont buy blue. However, it is a well known fact that Asians have a preference for the colour red for cultural reasons. It is therefore easier to sell them a product they have a cultural connection with. Surely it isnt that hard to understand. Queue a smart ass response.


Why don't we start with selling shirts in South Wales before targeting Malaysia FFS!


I cant comment on figures from this season as I have no idea. However, last season we sold more home shirts (red) than in any other previous season and at a faster rate. So it seems that South Wales Cardiff City fans are also buying the red shirts to me.


If I was a billionaire, I'd buy Tan out and ban anyone with the audacity to rock up to the CCS in that disgrace of a shirt and badge. How much is the jackpot for Euro Millions tonight?

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:44 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:Read my post, I simply ask, AT THE TIME WE WERE HOURS FROM ADMIN/LIQUIDATION, who else came in?? you are suggesting if we walks now? we are safe.

Yes we would be safe, but because of his plans and money that has saved this club. We are now Premier League, without his efforts both on and off the field, we wouldn't be. So again your answer is not right at all.

With the team, stadium, league position and the fact we will be debt free, yes we look appealing to his so called rich friends and any other investors, and when he is finished with us, who knows?? Europa league, Champions League?

You are a a work of art Chuckles.


OH MY GOD ARE YOU REALLY THAT THICK. :laughing5: :laughing5:

LEARN TO READ. SERIOUSLY, LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU JUMP ON OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS.

If you read my post, you'd have seen that I also gave you what I thought "would have happened" at the time of the rebrand announcement. I've backed up my opinions with quotes.

:thumbup:


But again you cannot answer... this is Tan era, for the 5th Time, I'm asking what other options did we have prior to Tans arrival.

Mother of god.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:44 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:VT implied it with his ridiculous rebrand, yes. :thumbup:

I can call the rebrand whatever I wish. :thumbup:


Show us a quote where VT implied that blue shirts dont sell in Asia and only red shirts do as you suggest he has implied?

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:44 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:

OI, You're not supposed to think for yourself, just follow the Dictators business plan like a good lickle taffy :thumbright:


He isnt a dictator. If this was a dictatorship blue would be banned from the stadium. Again, just throw words out there that suit the anti red agenda.


Again you are praising VT for not banning a colour from OUR stadium? Are you real? Under british law he could not ban UK nationals from wearing a colour. Yet you credit The Dictator for not doing it? Are you feeling OK? :lol:

Do ANY of you BILLIONAIRE sychophants think that CCFC would be here in Cardiff, If the Premier ?league allowed him to relocate to Kuala Lumpur?

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:45 pm

caerdydd_78 wrote:
But again you cannot answer... this is Tan era, for the 5th Time, I'm asking what other options did we have prior to Tans arrival.

Mother of god.


None. But nobody had a problem with his investment then, it was only when he rebranded that it became a problem.

Jesus Christ.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:46 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:


It has never been suggested that Asians wont buy blue. However, it is a well known fact that Asians have a preference for the colour red for cultural reasons. It is therefore easier to sell them a product they have a cultural connection with. Surely it isnt that hard to understand. Queue a smart ass response.

Asia is quite a big continent and you've just made some ignorant comments there, do you have any in depth knowledge on this subject at all? Were you even a regular at Ninian Park?

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:46 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:

OI, You're not supposed to think for yourself, just follow the Dictators business plan like a good lickle taffy :thumbright:


He isnt a dictator. If this was a dictatorship blue would be banned from the stadium. Again, just throw words out there that suit the anti red agenda.


Again you are praising VT for not banning a colour from OUR stadium? Are you real? Under british law he could not ban UK nationals from wearing a colour. Yet you credit The Dictator for not doing it? Are you feeling OK? :lol:

Do ANY of you BILLIONAIRE sychophants think that CCFC would be here in Cardiff, If the Premier ?league allowed him to relocate to Kuala Lumpur?


Im not suggesting he should. Your suggesting he is a dictator. Look up the word dictator. Tan is not a dictator. As I said IF he was then blue would be banned and its not. So stop throwing words out there to support your agenda that are completely untrue and have no basis.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:47 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:

OI, You're not supposed to think for yourself, just follow the Dictators business plan like a good lickle taffy :thumbright:


He isnt a dictator. If this was a dictatorship blue would be banned from the stadium. Again, just throw words out there that suit the anti red agenda.


Again you are praising VT for not banning a colour from OUR stadium? Are you real? Under british law he could not ban UK nationals from wearing a colour. Yet you credit The Dictator for not doing it? Are you feeling OK? :lol:

Do ANY of you BILLIONAIRE sychophants think that CCFC would be here in Cardiff, If the Premier ?league allowed him to relocate to Kuala Lumpur?


Im not suggesting he should. Your suggesting he is a dictator. Look up the word dictator. Tan is not a dictator. As I said IF he was then blue would be banned and its not. So stop throwing words out there to support your agenda that are completely untrue and have no basis.

HE CANT BAN UK NATIONALS FROM WEARING A COLOUR UNDER BRITISH LAW YOU GOON, SO WHY ARE YOU GIVING HIM CREDIT? :lol:

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:48 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:

OI, You're not supposed to think for yourself, just follow the Dictators business plan like a good lickle taffy :thumbright:


He isnt a dictator. If this was a dictatorship blue would be banned from the stadium. Again, just throw words out there that suit the anti red agenda.


Again you are praising VT for not banning a colour from OUR stadium? Are you real? Under british law he could not ban UK nationals from wearing a colour. Yet you credit The Dictator for not doing it? Are you feeling OK? :lol:

Do ANY of you BILLIONAIRE sychophants think that CCFC would be here in Cardiff, If the Premier ?league allowed him to relocate to Kuala Lumpur?


Im not suggesting he should. Your suggesting he is a dictator. Look up the word dictator. Tan is not a dictator. As I said IF he was then blue would be banned and its not. So stop throwing words out there to support your agenda that are completely untrue and have no basis.


What a pathetic argument to make.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:48 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:


It has never been suggested that Asians wont buy blue. However, it is a well known fact that Asians have a preference for the colour red for cultural reasons. It is therefore easier to sell them a product they have a cultural connection with. Surely it isnt that hard to understand. Queue a smart ass response.

Asia is quite a big continent and you've just made some ignorant comments there, do you have any in depth knowledge on this subject at all? Were you even a regular at Ninian Park?


Yes Ive been a regular at Cardiff since the season we got relegated from Division 2 to Division 3 against Bristol Rovers at home. I was about 10 at the time and here I still am. My statement isnt ignorant it was generalising and in the majority of Asian cultures red is the dominant and preferred color.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:50 pm

Blue_Always wrote:HE CANT BAN UK NATIONALS FROM WEARING A COLOUR UNDER BRITISH LAW YOU GOON, SO WHY ARE YOU GIVING HIM CREDIT? :lol:


So explain to me HOW Tan is a dictator? Ill tell you now that you wont be able too because he isnt a dictator. Your just using derogatory words to suit your agenda. Furthermore if he was a dictator we would have no blue kit at all and the blue kit would be abandoned all together. Which it isnt.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:51 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:


It has never been suggested that Asians wont buy blue. However, it is a well known fact that Asians have a preference for the colour red for cultural reasons. It is therefore easier to sell them a product they have a cultural connection with. Surely it isnt that hard to understand. Queue a smart ass response.

Asia is quite a big continent and you've just made some ignorant comments there, do you have any in depth knowledge on this subject at all? Were you even a regular at Ninian Park?


Yes Ive been a regular at Cardiff since the season we got relegated from Division 2 to Division 3 against Bristol Rovers at home. I was about 10 at the time and here I still am. My statement isnt ignorant it was generalising and in the majority of Asian cultures red is the dominant and preferred color.


Yet have the username bluedragons? Idiot may as well call yourself vinnysbumboy

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:51 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:What a pathetic argument to make.


Not pathetic. Just proving that the OP is wrong and Tan isnt a dictator.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:52 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:VT implied it with his ridiculous rebrand, yes. :thumbup:

I can call the rebrand whatever I wish. :thumbup:


1. No obvious implication at all.It's only how you read it.
2. Fine and no doubt you will,but get your facts right. If you base most of your posts and general stance on having a go at Tan because of a 'pointless' rebrand' just don't forget it isn't pointless (other than in your mind) and you are therefore working on a false premis.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:52 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The sort of smartarse response which becomes you.

If it's Mr Tan's business plan and he doesn't think it's a pointless exercise that's what counts and I suggest he may have a better handle on things than you.


Okay, you believe that people in Asia only support Red teams. :laughing5:


It has never been suggested that Asians wont buy blue. However, it is a well known fact that Asians have a preference for the colour red for cultural reasons. It is therefore easier to sell them a product they have a cultural connection with. Surely it isnt that hard to understand. Queue a smart ass response.

Asia is quite a big continent and you've just made some ignorant comments there, do you have any in depth knowledge on this subject at all? Were you even a regular at Ninian Park?


Yes Ive been a regular at Cardiff since the season we got relegated from Division 2 to Division 3 against Bristol Rovers at home. I was about 10 at the time and here I still am. My statement isnt ignorant it was generalising and in the majority of Asian cultures red is the dominant and preferred color.


Yet have the username bluedragons? Idiot may as well call yourself vinnysbumboy


So because I dont agree with your opinion I'm an 'idiot' ?

Unlike you, I look at two sides of the story and although I would love us to be playing in blue the truth is we have no other option and as a result of the rebrand we are in a far better situation. I also realise the positive things Vincent Tan has done for this club.

I like you if I had the choice would choose to play in blue.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:53 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
But again you cannot answer... this is Tan era, for the 5th Time, I'm asking what other options did we have prior to Tans arrival.

Mother of god.


None. But nobody had a problem with his investment then, it was only when he rebranded that it became a problem.

Jesus Christ.


So you want what Ive listed in several messages before for free?? genius.

I bet all the clubs straggling inc Coventry FC today, would have simply asked a billionaire in a Oliver style... and begged?

His investment came with a plan, it came with an idea. It came to help change the negative opinion and change the way in which people view our club and gain investment.

From a business perspective, its easy... His view worked, we gained promotion within 12 months of the re-brand and this club is in a wonderful position.

Again I thank him and everyone at the club.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:53 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:HE CANT BAN UK NATIONALS FROM WEARING A COLOUR UNDER BRITISH LAW YOU GOON, SO WHY ARE YOU GIVING HIM CREDIT? :lol:


So explain to me HOW Tan is a dictator? Ill tell you now that you wont be able too because he isnt a dictator. Your just using derogatory words to suit your agenda. Furthermore if he was a dictator we would have no blue kit at all and the blue kit would be abandoned all together. Which it isnt.


Why are you giving VT credit for something that is against british and european law to do? :lol: Are you completely insane?

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:55 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:HE CANT BAN UK NATIONALS FROM WEARING A COLOUR UNDER BRITISH LAW YOU GOON, SO WHY ARE YOU GIVING HIM CREDIT? :lol:


So explain to me HOW Tan is a dictator? Ill tell you now that you wont be able too because he isnt a dictator. Your just using derogatory words to suit your agenda. Furthermore if he was a dictator we would have no blue kit at all and the blue kit would be abandoned all together. Which it isnt.


Why are you giving VT credit for something that is against british and european law to do? :lol: Are you completely insane?


When have I given him credit? I said that if he was to ban the colour blue/blue cardiff city shirts then those would be the actions of a dictator.

You fail to answer the question as to how he is a dictator but try to twist my words to make my opinion looks less valid. Truth is you have no answer and your just throwing words out there that are completely untrue.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:57 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:HE CANT BAN UK NATIONALS FROM WEARING A COLOUR UNDER BRITISH LAW YOU GOON, SO WHY ARE YOU GIVING HIM CREDIT? :lol:


So explain to me HOW Tan is a dictator? Ill tell you now that you wont be able too because he isnt a dictator. Your just using derogatory words to suit your agenda. Furthermore if he was a dictator we would have no blue kit at all and the blue kit would be abandoned all together. Which it isnt.


Why are you giving VT credit for something that is against british and european law to do? :lol: Are you completely insane?


When have I given him credit? I said that if he was to ban the colour blue/blue cardiff city shirts then those would be the actions of a dictator.

You fail to answer the question as to how he is a dictator but try to twist my words to make my opinion looks less valid. Truth is you have no answer and your just throwing words out there that are completely untrue.

HE CAN NOT BAN THE COLOUR BLUE YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER LUNATIC. :lol:

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:59 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:HE CANT BAN UK NATIONALS FROM WEARING A COLOUR UNDER BRITISH LAW YOU GOON, SO WHY ARE YOU GIVING HIM CREDIT? :lol:


So explain to me HOW Tan is a dictator? Ill tell you now that you wont be able too because he isnt a dictator. Your just using derogatory words to suit your agenda. Furthermore if he was a dictator we would have no blue kit at all and the blue kit would be abandoned all together. Which it isnt.


Why are you giving VT credit for something that is against british and european law to do? :lol: Are you completely insane?


When have I given him credit? I said that if he was to ban the colour blue/blue cardiff city shirts then those would be the actions of a dictator.

You fail to answer the question as to how he is a dictator but try to twist my words to make my opinion looks less valid. Truth is you have no answer and your just throwing words out there that are completely untrue.

HE CAN NOT BAN THE COLOUR BLUE YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER LUNATIC. :lol:


Yes we have distinguished this point. I was speaking hypothetically showing you an example of the actions of a dictator but again, you avoided to answer my question on how he is a dictator?

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:02 pm

You would choose to play in blue yet have dragon in a username chosen in 2013. think I'm perfectly in my right to call you an idiot.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:02 pm

Are you on a wind-up? :lol:

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:05 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:You would choose to play in blue yet have dragon in a username chosen in 2013. think I'm perfectly in my right to call you an idiot.


Its called Irony. Im not a traditionalist like some fans, which is the bracket you seem to fall under (not having a go everybody is different).

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:05 pm

Blue_Always wrote:Are you on a wind-up? :lol:


No, your just incapable of holding a discussion as you are unable to answer a question put to you.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:54 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:Are you on a wind-up? :lol:


No, your just incapable of holding a discussion as you are unable to answer a question put to you.

The question is based on a false premiss, E.g. Tan hasn't banned blue, ergo he's not a dictator. :mrgreen:

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:55 pm

He has basically banned blue.

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:57 pm

Monsieur Mê wrote:He has basically banned blue.

:o That's bluedragons one and only criteria for being dictatorial. :lol:

Re: Vincent Tan

Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:09 pm

Monsieur Mê wrote:He has basically banned blue.


Yes of course he has, which is why we have a brand spanking new blue alternative kit !