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Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:11 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:You must be on smack, Hull have scored 1 goal in 3 pre season games and palace lost 3-0 to crawley, ye their fukin goal machines haaaahaha fuk off u tramp u know fucall


Pre season results don't mean anything, by your logic I guess your impressed by us and a bit worried after conceding three goals to Forest Green and drawing 1-1 with Cheltenham?

Palace's team against Crawley contained a lot of youngsters and trialists, there was only two first team Palace players playing in the second half. I wouldn't take that result as all that important.

I haven't stated either team are goal machines.

Good to see you resorting to just giving out shit, incorrectly spelt insults, and no longer challenging the calibre of Palace's/Hull's signings or defending your own.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:12 pm

SCFC wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:And did you say kevin phillips and dobbie? Ahhhahahaaaaahahah


Kevin Phillips has almost 100 Premier League goals, he's an astute signing who will do a job and calling him a nobody is laughable.

Stephen Dobbie has excelled in the Championship, he's been a part of three promoted sides in the last four seasons and has done well at the same level that most of your players have done well at.

Sagbo offers a lot more than just goals and is a very good footballer, he's a cheap signing for Hull but an improvement on what they already have.

You scrutinize these signings, but how much did you pay for Cornelius again based on one season in the Danish league?

The same Kevin Phillips who told us we were feeling the pressure and then got promoted weeks later? :lol:

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:13 pm

the other Bob Wilson wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Kevin Phillips has almost 100 Premier League goals, he's an astute signing who will do a job and calling him a nobody is laughable.

Stephen Dobbie has excelled in the Championship, he's been a part of three promoted sides in the last four seasons and has done well at the same level that most of your players have done well at.

Sagbo offers a lot more than just goals and is a very good footballer, he's a cheap signing for Hull but an improvement on what they already have.

You scrutinize these signings, but how much did you pay for Cornelius again based on one season in the Danish league?


And of course, you'd be congratulating us on our shrewd signings if we'd signed the players that Palace or Hull have this summer :lol: .

Just face up to the truth - logic, even handedness and balance flies out the window with you when Cardiff City are involved don't they.


As I've said above - Brayford and Moore are good signings, Cornelius is a good player but you've paid too much for him, but I don't think you've done enough business and I don't think you'll get what you need when your transfer targets are seemingly out of your reach.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:14 pm

Cult of Personality wrote:
SCFC wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:And did you say kevin phillips and dobbie? Ahhhahahaaaaahahah


Kevin Phillips has almost 100 Premier League goals, he's an astute signing who will do a job and calling him a nobody is laughable.

Stephen Dobbie has excelled in the Championship, he's been a part of three promoted sides in the last four seasons and has done well at the same level that most of your players have done well at.

Sagbo offers a lot more than just goals and is a very good footballer, he's a cheap signing for Hull but an improvement on what they already have.

You scrutinize these signings, but how much did you pay for Cornelius again based on one season in the Danish league?

The same Kevin Phillips who told us we were feeling the pressure and then got promoted weeks later? :lol:


That's not really relevant though is it? What is relevant is that he scored the goal that put them in this division and has scored goals throughout his career in the top two divisions of English football.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:20 pm

Kevin phillips is 50 yrs old, Dobbie is shit, gayle for 6mil? What terrible business, he scored 13 in the championship ha Cornelius is a goal machine, you can see that scoring in his first city game, top scorer in the danish league and scores for his country, and at 20 years old! This guy is going to be a diamomd for cardiff, it is about securing a long term future for cardiff not signing oap's for 1 season.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:24 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:Kevin phillips is 50 yrs old, Dobbie is shit, gayle for 6mil? What terrible business, he scored 13 in the championship ha Cornelius is a goal machine, you can see that scoring in his first city game, top scorer in the danish league and scores for his country, and at 20 years old! This guy is going to be a diamomd for cardiff, it is about securing a long term future for cardiff not signing oap's for 1 season.


Kevin Phillips is 40 years old, Stephen Dobbie is excellent at Championship level, Dwight Gayle was £2.5 million up front.

Was his goal against Forest Green or Cheltenham? :laughing5: He's a good player, but he's played one season of professional football in a substandard league and your spending £8 million on him.

You need to stay up first, and Cornelius is certainly a gamble.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:27 pm

Same as Bony scoring 30 odd goals in a very weak Dutch league then, he must be shit Ha and have you seen Bony's goal record at Cornelius age? Haaaa exactly jog on smackrat

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:32 pm

SCFC wrote:
Cult of Personality wrote:
SCFC wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:And did you say kevin phillips and dobbie? Ahhhahahaaaaahahah


Kevin Phillips has almost 100 Premier League goals, he's an astute signing who will do a job and calling him a nobody is laughable.

Stephen Dobbie has excelled in the Championship, he's been a part of three promoted sides in the last four seasons and has done well at the same level that most of your players have done well at.

Sagbo offers a lot more than just goals and is a very good footballer, he's a cheap signing for Hull but an improvement on what they already have.

You scrutinize these signings, but how much did you pay for Cornelius again based on one season in the Danish league?

The same Kevin Phillips who told us we were feeling the pressure and then got promoted weeks later? :lol:


That's not really relevant though is it? What is relevant is that he scored the goal that put them in this division and has scored goals throughout his career in the top two divisions of English football.

He's a has been, I'm sorry but he's not a Premier League striker no more

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:33 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:Same as Bony scoring 30 odd goals in a very weak Dutch league then, he must be shit Ha and have you seen Bony's goal record at Cornelius age? Haaaa exactly jog on smackrat


I didn't say Cornelius was shit, you seem to be misreading my messages, I said you paid too much about him.

Bony's proven himself at a much higher level, the Eredivisie is a much stronger level than the Danish Superliga. He's also proven himself in the Czech league and in Europe.

Bony has gone for less money than Strootman (£15 million), despite being the Eredivisie player of the year and strikers generally costing more so I'd say he is good value for money considering the value of modern day strikers.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:50 pm

You remember alfonso alves? Had a much better goal record than Bony and he was shit in the prem, shows how weak the dutch league is. I honestly think Bony will struggle in the prem, someone like Lakuku is a much better player than Bony

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:00 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:You remember alfonso alves? Had a much better goal record than Bony and he was shit in the prem, shows how weak the dutch league is. I honestly think Bony will struggle in the prem, someone like Lakuku is a much better player than Bony


He didn't have a much better record than Bony, he was going in to a poor Boro team and did get 13 goals in 18 months which isn't as big of a disaster as you're making out.

Do you remember Luis Suarez, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Dudek, Kuyt, Park, Vertonghen, Romario, Huntelaar and Robben? The Dutch League isn't weak.

Seeing as we weren't able to sign Lukaku, it's irrelevent.

Can you elaborate on this statement - "I honestly think Bony will struggle in the prem" why do you think he will struggle, yet think Cornelius will be a goal machine?

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:12 pm

cityone wrote:
SCFC wrote:
cityone wrote:You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

It amazes me after two seasons in the premier league that the jacks are now experts on how things are run there, on what grounds do you come up with the above comment??? because i can only go on previous championship teams getting promoted and in the last three to four years they have done ok, as for yourselves you went up through the lottery of the play offs, spent very little money and stayed up without much problem, we on the other hand won the championship, after going top in november and staying there, have brought in two quality out field players so far with matbe four or five more to come, we'll be fine this coming season, of that i am certain.


On the grounds that you are clearly are yet to compete at this level, and just haven't shown that you are able to compete with Premier League teams yet. I don't think your current squad is good enough, and do you really think you will be good enough if you don't sign any more players? Your pretty naive if that's the case.

Reading and QPR also won the Championship, it's not how you get in to the division it's how you adapt to it and Palace and Hull as it stands have done a lot more business in the transfer market. It's the fact that you seem to be fine which is worrying for you, when the Premier League season starts and you see the quality of the opposition then you'll have hoped to have done a lot more than what you've done so far in the transfer market.



I've already stated above that maybe four or five more players will come in, which they will, as for the business that palace and hull have done already, have you seen the players they have brought in??? i wouldn't be happy with any of them for my club, again going back to when you started life in the premiership, monk and tate were part of your defence for most of the season, that in itself tells me we'll be ok.

Just ti point out monk and tate werent our defence for most of the season. Tate was out for most of the season and monk only played when caulker was injured.
Rangel williams caulker Taylor is a quality back four for a newly promoted side.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:13 pm

I just think he is another Mateja Kezman and alfonso alves, they scored goals in the prem but hardly prolific. Bony will of course score but mot many after watching him play he lacks thats bit of class of players such of RVN amd suarez, well a say he lacks abit i mean alot compared to them.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:22 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:I just think he is another Mateja Kezman and alfonso alves, they scored goals in the prem but hardly prolific. Bony will of course score but mot many after watching him play he lacks thats bit of class of players such of RVN amd suarez, well a say he lacks abit i mean alot compared to them.


How do players have faired in the Premier League doesn't represent the whole division, some players have poor seasons but the majority of top players that have left the Eredivisie have been successful.

The justification in that he hasn't got a class, a subjective opinion that I disagree with, you haven't stated why you think Cornelius will be a hit and Bony will be a miss. Cornelius certainly hasn't got the class of Bony, who has plenty of technical ability and is capable of playing in attacking midfield.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:28 pm

It does not matter whether he is better than Bony or not, all that matters that Cornelius, maynard, campbell and bellamy help cardiff to finish above 3 other teams which will surely happen even witj the squad we have, and once the new additions arrive we could finish even higher. There are more goals in them 4 than most of the bottom of the table teams, at the end of the day cardiff need to finish 1 place above relegation and that would be a great season for Cardiff!

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:35 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:It does not matter whether he is better than Bony or not, all that matters that Cornelius, maynard, campbell and bellamy help cardiff to finish above 3 other teams which will surely happen even witj the squad we have, and once the new additions arrive we could finish even higher. There are more goals in them 4 than most of the bottom of the table teams, at the end of the day cardiff need to finish 1 place above relegation and that would be a great season for Cardiff!


Well you've stated that Cornelius will be a goal machine and that Bony won't be prolific, or are those two statements just bias.

Bellamy's not going to make the impact he once did, Maynard wasn't seen good enough for this level by West Ham and Fraizer Campbell's record at this level is horrific.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:36 pm

SCFC wrote:
Bony's proven himself at a much higher level, the Eredivisie is a much stronger level than the Danish Superliga. He's also proven himself in the Czech league and in Europe.


Cornelius is proven in Europe as well. Denmark is in Europe mate. :laughing5:

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:44 pm

Stringer Bell wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Bony's proven himself at a much higher level, the Eredivisie is a much stronger level than the Danish Superliga. He's also proven himself in the Czech league and in Europe.


Cornelius is proven in Europe as well. Denmark is in Europe mate. :laughing5:


Wow, really?

By in Europe, I mean in the Europa League.

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:58 pm

SCFC wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Bony's proven himself at a much higher level, the Eredivisie is a much stronger level than the Danish Superliga. He's also proven himself in the Czech league and in Europe.


Cornelius is proven in Europe as well. Denmark is in Europe mate. :laughing5:


Wow, really?

By in Europe, I mean in the Europa League.


Yes he has scored in the Europa League lol #WHOPPER #MARE

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:10 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Bony's proven himself at a much higher level, the Eredivisie is a much stronger level than the Danish Superliga. He's also proven himself in the Czech league and in Europe.


Cornelius is proven in Europe as well. Denmark is in Europe mate. :laughing5:


Wow, really?

By in Europe, I mean in the Europa League.


Yes he has scored in the Europa League lol #WHOPPER #MARE


:thumbup:

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:11 pm

Its all gone quiet from the resident WHOPPER

Re: Steven Caulker

Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:15 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:
SCFC wrote:
Bony's proven himself at a much higher level, the Eredivisie is a much stronger level than the Danish Superliga. He's also proven himself in the Czech league and in Europe.


Cornelius is proven in Europe as well. Denmark is in Europe mate. :laughing5:


Wow, really?

By in Europe, I mean in the Europa League.


Yes he has scored in the Europa League lol #WHOPPER #MARE


How many of your players have scored 8 European goals? Cornelius has the one in ten games, clearly a higher standard for him than the Danish Superliga.