" New chairman - latest update & Langston/Tan deal "

Tan has decided the amount and its him that has to pay the debt, not me or you but Tan. It is nothing anyone of us could have decided or paid so why worry about it?

We have a new chairman, hopefully he will be good for the club, so lets give the bloke a chance and see where his ideas take us.

Actually, isn't it the club that will pay this rather than Tan? I know I'm being picky but I think it's a fair point that the payments will come from the clubs accounts not Tan's personal accounts. There is a big difference, I think.

Here we go again

Sad hey.

Yes it is sad, we have 2 factions here don't we? Sam, Carl, you and chums on one hand Steve Davies, Borley and chums on the other and the constant bickering does this forum nor Cardiff City Football Club any good at all. We are in The Premier League now, why on earth can we not all enjoy the ride while it lasts rather than have this constant bickering and point scoring on all sides. All this nonsense with Carl giving news and updates and when he gets it right you saying yes you were right carl doesn't help either because then you have the other side waiting for his big mistake and revelling in making him look an idiot. If Carl or you or anyone else want to give good news or bad or even just rumours that's fine but please leave it at that. What's the point in gloating when you get it right if you cant take the stick when you get it wrong. Bit of advice just give the info and forget the gloating when Carl happens to get things right and likewise try not to rise to the wankers taking the piss when the info is wrong. Cardiff City are at the beginning of a wonderful journey just enjoy it everyone please.

It's not about factions at all. I don't come on here trying to update anybody or claim to be in the know. My last two involvements were the paul guy incident and just pointed out that the wanyama offer had never been accepted by Celtic. The night that deal was being touted on here and by Jamie on mikes board it clearly stated on celtics website that they had rejected any bid from Cardiff.
As I have said many times before this site is a good earner I would have thought for its owners and the updates and rumours are all part and parcel of keeping that income up.
Now SAMs back involved at the club I would expect the updates and accurate info to step up a gear over the coming season because SAMs past history over the Langston debt shows he is more than happy to share info with certain people

No your just borleys puppet and a red one at that, and because it omens from red bird Borley everyone believes you, even though he has made millions out of City

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Its ludicrous to suggest that Sam Hammam did not lie through his teeth when he was
here, we all know he did. So do the Brotherhood of Sam. But they will only ever say
he made Mistakes. So they are gullible. To me that leaves anything they say wide open to scepticism.
When it comes from Sam, the truth will be at best foggy. Borleys a different matter. He just spouts off when he's
pissed (and shouldnt) but nobody really doubts his word

Obviously, and he was so bad that VT decide to give hime all this money as a goodwill gesture from the bottom of his heart, especially after so many reckoned he wouldn't get a penny and the Forensic accountants would get to the bottom of it.

What loan notes three, obviously a figment of Sam's imagination, it's just that VT is feeling charitable.

As for the He Wont Get A Penny bollocks. show me who was saying that? We all knew hed get something
because there obviously was a loan. But we all knew that the High Court and 2016 was like kryptonite to
him. The High Court Judge was categorical when he said in a full hearing Hammam would likely be found
to be the principal mover and shaker at Langston. But what does he know eh? hes not a biker or a brickkie
Do you understand the implications of him getting exposed as 'Langstone' Did Sam tell you that? I think not.
As a Company Director or Chairman, Sam was legally obliged to act on behalf of that company at all times.
(the Company being Cardiff City) - So if he was langstone as a qualified, experienced JUDGE suggested, then
he was breaking the law charging Cardiff City interest on a loan. Thats why he would not wait til 2016 or can
you think of another reason why he (they) walked away with around half of what he says he was owed (sorry,
bad habit that, not HE, They, his employers )

1 question. A simple one....Did he or did he not say to supporters that he will
keep spending HIS money until he is fucked. But when he goes the debt goes with him. Did he say that?
Yes or No. (bearing in mind its on video )

Because i think we can safely say that the £32m was NOT his money, and we can safely say that the
debt did not leave with him. Am i right.?

So was he Lying? or mistaken

Here we go again

Sad hey.

Yes it is sad, we have 2 factions here don't we? Sam, Carl, you and chums on one hand Steve Davies, Borley and chums on the other and the constant bickering does this forum nor Cardiff City Football Club any good at all. We are in The Premier League now, why on earth can we not all enjoy the ride while it lasts rather than have this constant bickering and point scoring on all sides. All this nonsense with Carl giving news and updates and when he gets it right you saying yes you were right carl doesn't help either because then you have the other side waiting for his big mistake and revelling in making him look an idiot. If Carl or you or anyone else want to give good news or bad or even just rumours that's fine but please leave it at that. What's the point in gloating when you get it right if you cant take the stick when you get it wrong. Bit of advice just give the info and forget the gloating when Carl happens to get things right and likewise try not to rise to the wankers taking the piss when the info is wrong. Cardiff City are at the beginning of a wonderful journey just enjoy it everyone please.

It's not about factions at all. I don't come on here trying to update anybody or claim to be in the know. My last two involvements were the paul guy incident and just pointed out that the wanyama offer had never been accepted by Celtic. The night that deal was being touted on here and by Jamie on mikes board it clearly stated on celtics website that they had rejected any bid from Cardiff.
As I have said many times before this site is a good earner I would have thought for its owners and the updates and rumours are all part and parcel of keeping that income up.
Now SAMs back involved at the club I would expect the updates and accurate info to step up a gear over the coming season because SAMs past history over the Langston debt shows he is more than happy to share info with certain people

No your just borleys puppet and a red one at that, and because it omens from red bird Borley everyone believes you, even though he has made millions out of City

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Steve, I can assure you now, he has nothing to do with the moderators on here, yes I think he is Bluebirds unite, yes I want BLUE, but their actions are not mine.
Making another false accusation there Steve, shocked at you lately, it's either Carl your attacking and now the mods on here.
I try to give you full respect, so pleae give the mods and myself the same back

Its ludicrous to suggest that Sam Hammam did not lie through his teeth when he was
here, we all know he did. So do the Brotherhood of Sam. But they will only ever say
he made Mistakes. So they are gullible. To me that leaves anything they say wide open to scepticism.
When it comes from Sam, the truth will be at best foggy. Borleys a different matter. He just spouts off when he's
pissed (and shouldnt) but nobody really doubts his word

Obviously, and he was so bad that VT decide to give hime all this money as a goodwill gesture from the bottom of his heart, especially after so many reckoned he wouldn't get a penny and the Forensic accountants would get to the bottom of it.

What loan notes three, obviously a figment of Sam's imagination, it's just that VT is feeling charitable.

As for the He Wont Get A Penny bollocks. show me who was saying that? We all knew hed get something
because there obviously was a loan. But we all knew that the High Court and 2016 was like kryptonite to
him. The High Court Judge was categorical when he said in a full hearing Hammam would likely be found
to be the principal mover and shaker at Langston. But what does he know eh? hes not a biker or a brickkie
Do you understand the implications of him getting exposed as 'Langstone' Did Sam tell you that? I think not.
As a Company Director or Chairman, Sam was legally obliged to act on behalf of that company at all times.
(the Company being Cardiff City) - So if he was langstone as a qualified, experienced JUDGE suggested, then
he was breaking the law charging Cardiff City interest on a loan. Thats why he would not wait til 2016 or can
you think of another reason why he (they) walked away with around half of what he says he was owed (sorry,
bad habit that, not HE, They, his employers )

1 question. A simple one....Did he or did he not say to supporters that he will
keep spending HIS money until he is fucked. But when he goes the debt goes with him. Did he say that?
Yes or No. (bearing in mind its on video )

Because i think we can safely say that the £32m was NOT his money, and we can safely say that the
debt did not leave with him. Am i right.?

So was he Lying? or mistaken

So are you saying that VT has also broken the law, lending himself money and charging 7% interest, is there a difference?

Deary deary me the infighting here just gets worse he said this she said that -pathetic from all sides, Like I said earlier in the thread forget all the infighting and enjoy our season at the top table

The difference might and I stress might be that tans loans with interest may be from tan personally and not a company he is linked with
And maybe he will not walk away with us owing him anything or owing any of his companies anything

Deary deary me the infighting here just gets worse he said this she said that -pathetic from all sides, Like I said earlier in the thread forget all the infighting and enjoy our season at the top table

Indeed, I will try again to get it back on track

So what does everybody think of Mehmet Dalman being appointed chairman ?

And that Langston will receive a minimum of £22m from the deal settled by Vincent Tan ?

Its ludicrous to suggest that Sam Hammam did not lie through his teeth when he was
here, we all know he did. So do the Brotherhood of Sam. But they will only ever say
he made Mistakes. So they are gullible. To me that leaves anything they say wide open to scepticism.
When it comes from Sam, the truth will be at best foggy. Borleys a different matter. He just spouts off when he's
pissed (and shouldnt) but nobody really doubts his word

Obviously, and he was so bad that VT decide to give hime all this money as a goodwill gesture from the bottom of his heart, especially after so many reckoned he wouldn't get a penny and the Forensic accountants would get to the bottom of it.

What loan notes three, obviously a figment of Sam's imagination, it's just that VT is feeling charitable.

As for the He Wont Get A Penny bollocks. show me who was saying that? We all knew hed get something
because there obviously was a loan. But we all knew that the High Court and 2016 was like kryptonite to
him. The High Court Judge was categorical when he said in a full hearing Hammam would likely be found
to be the principal mover and shaker at Langston. But what does he know eh? hes not a biker or a brickkie
Do you understand the implications of him getting exposed as 'Langstone' Did Sam tell you that? I think not.
As a Company Director or Chairman, Sam was legally obliged to act on behalf of that company at all times.
(the Company being Cardiff City) - So if he was langstone as a qualified, experienced JUDGE suggested, then
he was breaking the law charging Cardiff City interest on a loan. Thats why he would not wait til 2016 or can
you think of another reason why he (they) walked away with around half of what he says he was owed (sorry,
bad habit that, not HE, They, his employers )

1 question. A simple one....Did he or did he not say to supporters that he will
keep spending HIS money until he is fucked. But when he goes the debt goes with him. Did he say that?
Yes or No. (bearing in mind its on video )

Because i think we can safely say that the £32m was NOT his money, and we can safely say that the
debt did not leave with him. Am i right.?

So was he Lying? or mistaken

So are you saying that VT has also broken the law, lending himself money and charging 7% interest, is there a difference?

I think you lack understanding of Company Law, which is understandable given that you are
trained by Sam. I do not. What Vincent Tan has done is totally above board, its in your face
no surprises, nothing hidden.

But lets not stray away from my question. Stop swerving. it was a simple
question

Was Hammam lying to us in those meetings when he said he was spending his own money
and he would never leave this Club in debt

Well now carl mate without the knowledge of him its a bit difficult to make any rash judgements
I know you had a pm from someone on here with some info on him
But that info has not found its way on here
Im sure the majority on here are like me a bit in the dark with info on our new chairman
Regarding the langstone settlement without proof of what it actually was again I will reserve my comments

Deary deary me the infighting here just gets worse he said this she said that -pathetic from all sides, Like I said earlier in the thread forget all the infighting and enjoy our season at the top table

Indeed, I will try again to get it back on track

So what does everybody think of Mehmet Dalman being appointed chairman ?

And that Langston will receive a minimum of £22m from the deal settled by Vincent Tan ?

My personal opinion - Tan surrounds himself with people of astute financial and business acumen, which makes Tan the successful man that he is and therefore that can only be good for Cardiff City Football Club that Dalman has been appointed as he has an impressive business and financial CV.

As for the alleged £22 million settlement brokered by Sam for Langstone, I couldn't possibly comment as I have no knowledge if this figure is correct and I don't think none of us will until the clubs accounts are produced. Meanwhile I'm just going to enjoy the football that Tan's finances and Malkys managerial skills have helped provide

The difference might and I stress might be that tans loans with interest may be from tan personally and not a company he is linked with
And maybe he will not walk away with us owing him anything or owing any of his companies anything

From his local building society is it.

Its ludicrous to suggest that Sam Hammam did not lie through his teeth when he was
here, we all know he did. So do the Brotherhood of Sam. But they will only ever say
he made Mistakes. So they are gullible. To me that leaves anything they say wide open to scepticism.
When it comes from Sam, the truth will be at best foggy. Borleys a different matter. He just spouts off when he's
pissed (and shouldnt) but nobody really doubts his word

Obviously, and he was so bad that VT decide to give hime all this money as a goodwill gesture from the bottom of his heart, especially after so many reckoned he wouldn't get a penny and the Forensic accountants would get to the bottom of it.

What loan notes three, obviously a figment of Sam's imagination, it's just that VT is feeling charitable.

As for the He Wont Get A Penny bollocks. show me who was saying that? We all knew hed get something
because there obviously was a loan. But we all knew that the High Court and 2016 was like kryptonite to
him. The High Court Judge was categorical when he said in a full hearing Hammam would likely be found
to be the principal mover and shaker at Langston. But what does he know eh? hes not a biker or a brickkie
Do you understand the implications of him getting exposed as 'Langstone' Did Sam tell you that? I think not.
As a Company Director or Chairman, Sam was legally obliged to act on behalf of that company at all times.
(the Company being Cardiff City) - So if he was langstone as a qualified, experienced JUDGE suggested, then
he was breaking the law charging Cardiff City interest on a loan. Thats why he would not wait til 2016 or can
you think of another reason why he (they) walked away with around half of what he says he was owed (sorry,
bad habit that, not HE, They, his employers )

1 question. A simple one....Did he or did he not say to supporters that he will
keep spending HIS money until he is fucked. But when he goes the debt goes with him. Did he say that?
Yes or No. (bearing in mind its on video )

Because i think we can safely say that the £32m was NOT his money, and we can safely say that the
debt did not leave with him. Am i right.?

So was he Lying? or mistaken

So are you saying that VT has also broken the law, lending himself money and charging 7% interest, is there a difference?

I think you lack understanding of Company Law, which is understandable given that you are
trained by Sam. I do not. What Vincent Tan has done is totally above board, its in your face
no surprises, nothing hidden.

But lets not stray away from my question. Stop swerving. it was a simple
question

Was Hammam lying to us in those meetings when he said he was spending his own money
and he would never leave this Club in debt

I wasn't at that meeting obviously, but if you were pm me with your number and I'll ask him to ring or meet you to answer it directly, no prob.

Its ludicrous to suggest that Sam Hammam did not lie through his teeth when he was
here, we all know he did. So do the Brotherhood of Sam. But they will only ever say
he made Mistakes. So they are gullible. To me that leaves anything they say wide open to scepticism.
When it comes from Sam, the truth will be at best foggy. Borleys a different matter. He just spouts off when he's
pissed (and shouldnt) but nobody really doubts his word

Obviously, and he was so bad that VT decide to give hime all this money as a goodwill gesture from the bottom of his heart, especially after so many reckoned he wouldn't get a penny and the Forensic accountants would get to the bottom of it.

What loan notes three, obviously a figment of Sam's imagination, it's just that VT is feeling charitable.

As for the He Wont Get A Penny bollocks. show me who was saying that? We all knew hed get something
because there obviously was a loan. But we all knew that the High Court and 2016 was like kryptonite to
him. The High Court Judge was categorical when he said in a full hearing Hammam would likely be found
to be the principal mover and shaker at Langston. But what does he know eh? hes not a biker or a brickkie
Do you understand the implications of him getting exposed as 'Langstone' Did Sam tell you that? I think not.
As a Company Director or Chairman, Sam was legally obliged to act on behalf of that company at all times.
(the Company being Cardiff City) - So if he was langstone as a qualified, experienced JUDGE suggested, then
he was breaking the law charging Cardiff City interest on a loan. Thats why he would not wait til 2016 or can
you think of another reason why he (they) walked away with around half of what he says he was owed (sorry,
bad habit that, not HE, They, his employers )

1 question. A simple one....Did he or did he not say to supporters that he will
keep spending HIS money until he is fucked. But when he goes the debt goes with him. Did he say that?
Yes or No. (bearing in mind its on video )

Because i think we can safely say that the £32m was NOT his money, and we can safely say that the
debt did not leave with him. Am i right.?

So was he Lying? or mistaken

So are you saying that VT has also broken the law, lending himself money and charging 7% interest, is there a difference?

I think you lack understanding of Company Law, which is understandable given that you are
trained by Sam. I do not. What Vincent Tan has done is totally above board, its in your face
no surprises, nothing hidden.

But lets not stray away from my question. Stop swerving. it was a simple
question

Was Hammam lying to us in those meetings when he said he was spending his own money
and he would never leave this Club in debt

I wasn't at that meeting obviously, but if you were pm me with your number and I'll ask him to ring or meet you to answer it directly, no prob.

Ffs this as got hallmarks of RM written all over it!

I wonder where Terry Phillips got his details of the Langston settlement from?

Yes I wonder Stavross, you've now said the same sentence on both Forums, not shit stirring are you?

The fact is this is our New Chairman and that's what we should be commenting on, the snipers mb is for you

U seem to Hate to see Carl right Hmm

Annis to be fair the article discussed was Terry Phillips article in the western mail which included the naming rights figure. Surely we can discuss what we like in any thread, free speech remember ? And now all of a sudden Mikes board is a snipers board? Aren't you snipping with that statement?

Is it just the "snipers board" because posts which are critical of certain individuals are deleted on here and, most of the time, left on Mikes board?

Its ludicrous to suggest that Sam Hammam did not lie through his teeth when he was
here, we all know he did. So do the Brotherhood of Sam. But they will only ever say
he made Mistakes. So they are gullible. To me that leaves anything they say wide open to scepticism.
When it comes from Sam, the truth will be at best foggy. Borleys a different matter. He just spouts off when he's
pissed (and shouldnt) but nobody really doubts his word

Obviously, and he was so bad that VT decide to give hime all this money as a goodwill gesture from the bottom of his heart, especially after so many reckoned he wouldn't get a penny and the Forensic accountants would get to the bottom of it.

What loan notes three, obviously a figment of Sam's imagination, it's just that VT is feeling charitable.

As for the He Wont Get A Penny bollocks. show me who was saying that? We all knew hed get something
because there obviously was a loan. But we all knew that the High Court and 2016 was like kryptonite to
him. The High Court Judge was categorical when he said in a full hearing Hammam would likely be found
to be the principal mover and shaker at Langston. But what does he know eh? hes not a biker or a brickkie
Do you understand the implications of him getting exposed as 'Langstone' Did Sam tell you that? I think not.
As a Company Director or Chairman, Sam was legally obliged to act on behalf of that company at all times.
(the Company being Cardiff City) - So if he was langstone as a qualified, experienced JUDGE suggested, then
he was breaking the law charging Cardiff City interest on a loan. Thats why he would not wait til 2016 or can
you think of another reason why he (they) walked away with around half of what he says he was owed (sorry,
bad habit that, not HE, They, his employers )

1 question. A simple one....Did he or did he not say to supporters that he will
keep spending HIS money until he is fucked. But when he goes the debt goes with him. Did he say that?
Yes or No. (bearing in mind its on video )

Because i think we can safely say that the £32m was NOT his money, and we can safely say that the
debt did not leave with him. Am i right.?

So was he Lying? or mistaken

So are you saying that VT has also broken the law, lending himself money and charging 7% interest, is there a difference?

I think you lack understanding of Company Law, which is understandable given that you are
trained by Sam. I do not. What Vincent Tan has done is totally above board, its in your face
no surprises, nothing hidden.

But lets not stray away from my question. Stop swerving. it was a simple
question

Was Hammam lying to us in those meetings when he said he was spending his own money
and he would never leave this Club in debt

I wasn't at that meeting obviously, but if you were pm me with your number and I'll ask him to ring or meet you to answer it directly, no prob.

You cant say it can you. The man lied through his f*cking teeth - to all of us, every single one of us.
Including you. The B B f*cking C have him on a video lying to us. But you crack on lad. The £32m
debt was a mistake, he didnt really say it was his own money, the Beeeb dubbed over his words

Love is blind!

Tan has decided the amount and its him that has to pay the debt, not me or you but Tan. It is nothing anyone of us could have decided or paid so why worry about it?

We have a new chairman, hopefully he will be good for the club, so lets give the bloke a chance and see where his ideas take us.

Spot On

Correct Corky, Tan and Sam done the deal, Tan accepted it and was happy, so no matter how much some disagree it's a done deal.

Deary deary me the infighting here just gets worse he said this she said that -pathetic from all sides, Like I said earlier in the thread forget all the infighting and enjoy our season at the top table

Indeed, I will try again to get it back on track

So what does everybody think of Mehmet Dalman being appointed chairman ?

And that Langston will receive a minimum of £22m from the deal settled by Vincent Tan ?

Think it's one of the only positive changes Tan has made in the boardroom so far.

However, I think having Peter Andre has chairman would be an improvement on Simon Lim

No need to be sarcastic glyn
I was answering your question ffs
Let the future prove if im right
If tan does the debt to equity then hes not the same as sam is he as we wont owe any fuc..r will we

No need to be sarcastic glyn
I was answering your question ffs
Let the future prove if im right
If tan does the debt to equity then hes not the same as sam is he as we wont owe any fuc..r will we

Hate to throw another question in to this mix but this debt free thing can only be true if the clubs incomings are more that it's outgoings. Surely? Otherwise the old debt might be cleared but new ones would soon build up.

I know going to the PL will give bigger incomes but with all the contracts with every man and his dog kicking in "you get a bag of money if we go to the Prem.." I'd be surprised if even the postman didn't get a promotion bonus. That bigger income will be quickly met by bigger outgoings so it will be interesting, and crucial, to see how the books will balance on a month by month basis. Once that is answered then the longer term questions regarding debt will be answered.

No need to be sarcastic glyn
I was answering your question ffs
Let the future prove if im right
If tan does the debt to equity then hes not the same as sam is he as we wont owe any fuc..r will we

Hate to throw another question in to this mix but this debt free thing can only be true if the clubs incomings are more that it's outgoings. Surely? Otherwise the old debt might be cleared but new ones would soon build up.

I know going to the PL will give bigger incomes but with all the contracts with every man and his dog kicking in "you get a bag of money if we go to the Prem.." I'd be surprised if even the postman didn't get a promotion bonus. That bigger income will be quickly met by bigger outgoings so it will be interesting, and crucial, to see how the books will balance on a month by month basis. Once that is answered then the longer term questions regarding debt will be answered.

Not sure if you are aware of the changes at the Stadium but there are many, all of which are directed at income streams. Installation ready for sky to connect into will save sky hours of work using the outside broadcast system. Sky will pay City to use it. Digital advertising boards have been fitted around the stadium on all sides not only at ground level but also 3rd tier level. The extra level of advertising is tens of thousand per game. The work on the two screens is due to start and will be up an running before the Season start. Corporate streams have been increased ten fold, It really is an eye opener on what has been done in a short time and setting T/O at 85.000.000 is achievable. depending on results this could well increase considerably. League position, Cups etc. We truly have a Stadium (ours) to be proud of and should we manage to stay up Mr Tan will be well happy have changed debt to Equity. Profits will be the least of his worries. He will after all have an independent Company ready to expand should the needs arise.

It would be nice to finally see the club turn a profit or simply wipe it's own face. Only time will tell though if this will be the case. As much as there is always a team of people fighting money in to a clubs pot, there is equally another team who constantly spend every available penny and more. Such is football.

It would be nice to finally see the club turn a profit or simply wipe it's own face. Only time will tell though if this will be the case. As much as there is always a team of people fighting money in to a clubs pot, there is equally another team who constantly spend every available penny and more. Such is football.

I agree re football and money don't bond well. However I was truly amazed to see what's been going on and why.
Nothing cosmetic about this its pure income streams well thought out. This Mr. Tans a different animal believe me.
He's there for a reason.

Well now carl mate without the knowledge of him its a bit difficult to make any rash judgements
I know you had a pm from someone on here with some info on him
But that info has not found its way on here
Im sure the majority on here are like me a bit in the dark with info on our new chairman
Regarding the langstone settlement without proof of what it actually was again I will reserve my comments

Yes Carl had a PM off me yesterday and as I have already stated on the other thread that you was fishing for info off Carl from it was nothing to do with CCFC so why don't you stop asking Carl the contents of a private conversation.

One thing for certain. Irrespective of Sam Hammam, Ridsdale, Paul Guy, whichever camp anyone
wishes to sit in. Cardiff City under Vincent Tan have gone from the brink of going bust to the
Premiership and it seems likely that in the next few months or whenever the time is right. Cardiff
City will be a debt free Club. But unlike Swansea City we will be debt free because we paid our
creditors. We did not swerve them

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-2 ... vival.html?

Wtf you on about jules
Carl asked for our thoughts on our new chairman
You clearly stated on here you had info on him and sent carl a message
I clearly stated I could not give an oppinion as I had no knowledge of him
I stated that I believed carl had recieved some info that had not been put out on here that may have been usefull to us to answer his question
Do you expect people on here to believe info given in private does not end up on here
Where do you think the update info comes from
By the way I was not fishing for info just wondering why it was so secret that it had to be kept between you and carl , especially as carl was asking for our oppinions
Carl and myself have a very good relationship speak regulary and travel to away games together im sure if he felt I was out of order he would have said something to me , and he dont need you to bring it up

Wtf you on about jules
Carl asked for our thoughts on our new chairman
You clearly stated on here you had info on him and sent carl a message
I clearly stated I could not give an oppinion as I had no knowledge of him
I stated that I believed carl had recieved some info that had not been put out on here that may have been usefull to us to answer his question
Do you expect people on here to believe info given in private does not end up on here
Where do you think the update info comes from
By the way I was not fishing for info just wondering why it was so secret that it had to be kept between you and carl , especially as carl was asking for our oppinions
Carl and myself have a very good relationship speak regulary and travel to away games together im sure if he felt I was out of order he would have said something to me , and he dont need you to bring it up

WTF??? I'll tell you WTF, you have asked the same type of question on two separate threads regarding a PM I sent to Carl which has or never will have anything to do with the business of his running of the club.
From looking at your message above, you clearly like to state things.
So let me state a few things.
I was told by someone I trust explicability that he helped fix a deal that was going wrong. No other info needed by you.
If you have no knowledge and therefore cannot form an opinion. Wait, like the rest of us.
I sent Carl the PM as he was taking a lot of flack about the new chairman. And asked he doesn't post it here as it of absolutely no use to ANYONE on here,
Same question again really!! Not all info given in faith is spewed on here and if you believe it is you are very naïve.
Updates come from 1 of 3 things. 1, inside info. 2. rumours. 3. ( and my favourite) People just making up shite to fill their boring lives.
If you were just wondering why ask the question on two separate threads , ie. Fishing.
Carl asking for an opinion on a man who hadn't even done his first shift in new job? Well who could form an opinion.
If you really need to know and you have such a good relationship with carl ask him!! I go away too ( don't see what that got to do with anything mind?)
No one has said you're out of order but as already stated quite clearly, it was a personal matter of trying to assist Carl so don't worry yourself over the details
Enjoy the season mate and let the ringmasters run the show