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Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:13 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:So we did then. yeah as I thought.


The circumstances couldn't be further apart and you know it, or could it be you're on a wind up? :laughing6:


The circumstances are, we could afford to pay the whole debt but paid £17 MILLION less to write off the debt (while making bids of tens of millions for players). They paid everything they could afford and paid 650k less to write off the debt (and hadn't paid a fee for a player for years).

I just think it's a bit stupid of our fans using this to tell the jacks how to pay debts when we have just squirmed out of debt on a scale 25 times greater on the very same deal. Just a bit unbelievable really, but as I've come to realise on this board over the last few days, there aren't many normal city fans on here. Everyone seems completely detached of reality. Fun to read though :lol:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:17 pm

"Detatched of reality" :laughing5:

How very apt from Lord Fiction :lol:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:21 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:"Detatched of reality" :laughing5:

How very apt from Lord Fiction :lol:


That's also a favourite reply when the content cannot be combatted, a runner up to a smiley or "IRONY" :lol:

Congratulations.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:44 pm

CCFCPAUL wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:So we did then. yeah as I thought.


The circumstances couldn't be further apart and you know it, or could it be you're on a wind up? :laughing6:


The circumstances are, we could afford to pay the whole debt but paid £17 MILLION less to write off the debt (while making bids of tens of millions for players). They paid everything they could afford and paid 650k less to write off the debt (and hadn't paid a fee for a player for years).

I just think it's a bit stupid of our fans using this to tell the jacks how to pay debts when we have just squirmed out of debt on a scale 25 times greater on the very same deal. Just a bit unbelievable really, but as I've come to realise on this board over the last few days, there aren't many normal city fans on here. Everyone seems completely detached of reality. Fun to read though :lol:


Sam owned the club and chose to spend lavishly. We all assumed it was his money. Then he walks and says "oh by the way you owe me all that money back".
I don't care what the club owed "legally", morally in my mind we owed him nothing so he's done ok out of it. Better than 5p in the pound too :thumbup:

In terms of the sideshow, lets not forget how much shit the jacks have been dishing out about our debt level. It's just banter though and nobody gets hurt. Chill out its not worth of getting all agitated about it :wave:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:52 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:So we did then. yeah as I thought.


The circumstances couldn't be further apart and you know it, or could it be you're on a wind up? :laughing6:


The circumstances are, we could afford to pay the whole debt but paid £17 MILLION less to write off the debt (while making bids of tens of millions for players). They paid everything they could afford and paid 650k less to write off the debt (and hadn't paid a fee for a player for years).

I just think it's a bit stupid of our fans using this to tell the jacks how to pay debts when we have just squirmed out of debt on a scale 25 times greater on the very same deal. Just a bit unbelievable really, but as I've come to realise on this board over the last few days, there aren't many normal city fans on here. Everyone seems completely detached of reality. Fun to read though :lol:


Sam owned the club and chose to spend lavishly. We all assumed it was his money. Then he walks and says "oh by the way you owe me all that money back".
I don't care what the club owed "legally", morally in my mind we owed him nothing so he's done ok out of it. Better than 5p in the pound too :thumbup:

In terms of the sideshow, lets not forget how much shit the jacks have been dishing out about our debt level. It's just banter though and nobody gets hurt. Chill out its not worth of getting all agitated about it :wave:


But our debt level IS horrific. We would do the same and rightly so, its disgusting how financially mismanaged we have been and the sole reason we now play in red with a fan base disjointed.

Yes I know Sam spent the money but it hardly makes a difference, he was the owner and spent poorly. Even if he came clean and said it was the clubs money there is nothing we could have done about it and people still would have loved it at the time and we all know that deep down. Swansea's owners spent poorly and lumbered the club in debt.

The 5p in the pound makes no difference to me. They couldn't afford to pay it back, it was either that or the club cease to exist. In our case we paid £17m less after recieving £90 million for getting to the Prem. it's just a bit of a ridiculous thing to bring up when trying to take the high ground regarding debt, especially when firer still we have about £83 million of unpaid loan notes hanging over our heads on a promise of one man.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:01 pm

CCFCPAUL wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:So we did then. yeah as I thought.


The circumstances couldn't be further apart and you know it, or could it be you're on a wind up? :laughing6:


The circumstances are, we could afford to pay the whole debt but paid £17 MILLION less to write off the debt (while making bids of tens of millions for players). They paid everything they could afford and paid 650k less to write off the debt (and hadn't paid a fee for a player for years).

I just think it's a bit stupid of our fans using this to tell the jacks how to pay debts when we have just squirmed out of debt on a scale 25 times greater on the very same deal. Just a bit unbelievable really, but as I've come to realise on this board over the last few days, there aren't many normal city fans on here. Everyone seems completely detached of reality. Fun to read though :lol:


Sam owned the club and chose to spend lavishly. We all assumed it was his money. Then he walks and says "oh by the way you owe me all that money back".
I don't care what the club owed "legally", morally in my mind we owed him nothing so he's done ok out of it. Better than 5p in the pound too :thumbup:

In terms of the sideshow, lets not forget how much shit the jacks have been dishing out about our debt level. It's just banter though and nobody gets hurt. Chill out its not worth of getting all agitated about it :wave:


But our debt level IS horrific. We would do the same and rightly so, its disgusting how financially mismanaged we have been and the sole reason we now play in red with a fan base disjointed.

Yes I know Sam spent the money but it hardly makes a difference, he was the owner and spent poorly. Even if he came clean and said it was the clubs money there is nothing we could have done about it and people still would have loved it at the time and we all know that deep down. Swansea's owners spent poorly and lumbered the club in debt.

The 5p in the pound makes no difference to me. They couldn't afford to pay it back, it was either that or the club cease to exist. In our case we paid £17m less after recieving £90 million for getting to the Prem. it's just a bit of a ridiculous thing to bring up when trying to take the high ground regarding debt, especially when firer still we have about £83 million of unpaid loan notes hanging over our heads on a promise of one man.


Not for me, Sam took a lot of money out of the club then left us with the bills. Deserves nothing.

This is only the first part of the financial restructuring. Relax, even if the worst happens we could always do a Swansea :thumbup:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:22 pm

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what he's owed and he's owed every penny but settled for a lot less just like Swansea did. However the difference being they didnt have the money to pay what they owed, we did and then some.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:41 am

CCFCPAUL wrote:It's not about what he deserves, it's about what he's owed and he's owed every penny but settled for a lot less just like Swansea did. However the difference being they didnt have the money to pay what they owed, we did and then some.


No we didn't. You've already stated we are still 83m in debt so how can you say we have the money? Make your mind up.
The banter surrounds the jacks bleating on about what a well run club they are which many see as hypocritical bearing in mind they history. It doesn't matter of course, in business you do what you have to do to survive as long as you don't break any laws. Getting on moralistic is a little naive.

Sam is obviously happy with the deal, why are you so concerned for him?

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:03 am

Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:It's not about what he deserves, it's about what he's owed and he's owed every penny but settled for a lot less just like Swansea did. However the difference being they didnt have the money to pay what they owed, we did and then some.


No we didn't. You've already stated we are still 83m in debt so how can you say we have the money? Make your mind up.
The banter surrounds the jacks bleating on about what a well run club they are which many see as hypocritical bearing in mind they history. It doesn't matter of course, in business you do what you have to do to survive as long as you don't break any laws. Getting on moralistic is a little naive.

Sam is obviously happy with the deal, why are you so concerned for him?


Eh?

We owed Sam £32m and paid him £15m leaving him £17m short. On top of that we have a player budget of £25m. You do the math,

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:44 am

CCFCPAUL wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
CCFCPAUL wrote:It's not about what he deserves, it's about what he's owed and he's owed every penny but settled for a lot less just like Swansea did. However the difference being they didnt have the money to pay what they owed, we did and then some.


No we didn't. You've already stated we are still 83m in debt so how can you say we have the money? Make your mind up.
The banter surrounds the jacks bleating on about what a well run club they are which many see as hypocritical bearing in mind they history. It doesn't matter of course, in business you do what you have to do to survive as long as you don't break any laws. Getting on moralistic is a little naive.

Sam is obviously happy with the deal, why are you so concerned for him?


Eh?

We owed Sam £32m and paid him £15m leaving him £17m short. On top of that we have a player budget of £25m. You do the math,


As I said, Sam is happy so why should you be so concerned? You reckon we could have afforded to pay in full and more yet earlier stated how bad our financial position is. So which is it?

Besides, we don't know the full details of the settlement and I'm sure Sam will make up his shortfall with future gains, perhaps even equity. We don't know the details, sam is happy so quit flapping.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:08 pm

Just a little something on whats been payed!! If I Owed the water company £3200 and managed to strike a deal with them to pay them £1500 many people would say i was a shrewd negotiator and ask me for advice!! #Vincent tan.why is everyone obsessed with the walking eyebrow??He aint bitching about being robbed or anything!! What is for sure is it was described as a deal struck so all parties were happy!! Onwards n upwards!!!!!

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:23 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Just a little something on whats been payed!! If I Owed the water company £3200 and managed to strike a deal with them to pay them £1500 many people would say i was a shrewd negotiator and ask me for advice!! #Vincent tan.why is everyone obsessed with the walking eyebrow??He aint bitching about being robbed or anything!! What is for sure is it was described as a deal struck so all parties were happy!! Onwards n upwards!!!!!

so you're saying it's alright to pay less than you owe if you can , it shows you're a "shrewd negotiator" so by your reasoning swansea paying less than they owed was a shrewd bit of business so why are you starting topics slating swansea's agreement with it's creditors ???? i think you're just getting confused aren't you ;)

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:23 pm

He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:26 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

bet you've been close a few times though haven't you ;)

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:46 pm

Waddle?we paid what was AGREED!! Did you lot?because your creditors didnt have a f'in say!!!Eyebrows could have said no but AGREED to take the offer on the table? Totally different to what happened to your creditors!shrewdness is not robbery!chalk n cheese mate chalk n cheese!!

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:49 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Waddle?we paid what was AGREED!! Did you lot?because your creditors didnt have a f'in say!!!Eyebrows could have said no but AGREED to take the offer on the table? Totally different to what happened to your creditors!shrewdness is not robbery!chalk n cheese mate chalk n cheese!!

of course they had a say you idiot :lol:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:55 pm

waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

bet you've been close a few times though haven't you ;)

Which house? I own 4 :thumbup:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:32 pm

Yeah! Take 5p in the £ or f**k all! Some choice! As for the idiot comment,shows that you are indeed a dopey little man as i thought!eyebrows debt didnt need to be paid til 2016.so if he wanted he could have held out for more and earned interest but maybe he was HAPPY with what he was offered.were your creditors happy?? Analogy:I have £100 in an account however bank says they will only give me £5 back cos they screwed up am i happy? f**k am i what can i do? Nothing.so i accept it as its better than nothing!your board screwed your creditors.eyebrows lied and screwed us and has realised he is now dealing with a bigger and better man.and has decided rather than drag it out any more to settle.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:36 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Yeah! Take 5p in the £ or f**k all! Some choice! As for the idiot comment,shows that you are indeed a dopey little man as i thought!eyebrows debt didnt need to be paid til 2016.so if he wanted he could have held out for more and earned interest but maybe he was HAPPY with what he was offered.were your creditors happy?? Analogy:I have £100 in an account however bank says they will only give me £5 back cos they screwed up am i happy? f**k am i what can i do? Nothing.so i accept it as its better than nothing!your board screwed your creditors.eyebrows lied and screwed us and has realised he is now dealing with a bigger and better man.and has decided rather than drag it out any more to settle.

so much bollocks in one statement i'm not even going to bother :?

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:37 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

bet you've been close a few times though haven't you ;)

Which house? I own 4 :thumbup:

doghouse , shithouse , outhouse , wendyhouse

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:45 pm

waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

bet you've been close a few times though haven't you ;)

Which house? I own 4 :thumbup:

doghouse , shithouse , outhouse , wendyhouse


Ffs twaddle leave them alone! Told you other day about it! :lol: anyway don't give fck as enjoying cold beer in rhodes on beach! :happy1:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:47 pm

Never mind twaddle i'm off out now in my shiny new car(nissan 370z)earned with my" idiots" salary.thanks for the banter tho broke up my day nicely.this banking shit is so easy!four days a week.mortgage free and time on my hands to wind a few jacks up!heaven it is HEAVEN.now where shall i eat!

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:09 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Never mind twaddle i'm off out now in my shiny new car(nissan 370z)earned with my" idiots" salary.thanks for the banter tho broke up my day nicely.this banking shit is so easy!four days a week.mortgage free and time on my hands to wind a few jacks up!heaven it is HEAVEN.now where shall i eat!

nissan 370z and no mortgage, well done fella i didn't realise working in a sperm bank payed so well , i hope you just work in reception :lol:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:53 pm

No i actually donate sperm tho! Doesnt pay as much as my banking analyst salary but hey the demand from swansea is so big cos all the men are impotent!anything to help but thats me! now Excuse me my starter has just arrived.

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:37 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

bet you've been close a few times though haven't you ;)

Which house? I own 4 :thumbup:

doghouse , shithouse , outhouse , wendyhouse


Ffs twaddle leave them alone! Told you other day about it! :lol: anyway don't give fck as enjoying cold beer in rhodes on beach! :happy1:

Kludos Allan :malky:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:57 pm

bluesince62 wrote:No i actually donate sperm tho! Doesnt pay as much as my banking analyst salary but hey the demand from swansea is so big cos all the men are impotent!anything to help but thats me! now Excuse me my starter has just arrived.

I could tell you had an important job in banking by your in depth analysis of our clubs financial situations :thumbright:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:58 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He should be grateful hes getting anything at all.

If I borrowed money against my house, then blew it, took it in negative equity and couldnt afford the repayments it would get repossesed.

bet you've been close a few times though haven't you ;)

Which house? I own 4 :thumbup:

doghouse , shithouse , outhouse , wendyhouse


Ffs twaddle leave them alone! Told you other day about it! :lol: anyway don't give fck as enjoying cold beer in rhodes on beach! :happy1:

polo's only marginally sharper than a spoon so it isn't very hard mate , have a good one and keep off the ouzo :thumbright:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:12 pm

Only do in depth for pay mate.send me £500 and i will spend a day on it.thats£100 off for you!! You can get new decking for your caravan then!!but a quick glance at your club in any form makes me nauseous! Now get to bed its late for you!

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:16 pm

bluesince62 wrote:No i actually donate sperm tho! Doesnt pay as much as my banking analyst salary but hey the demand from swansea is so big cos all the men are impotent!anything to help but thats me! now Excuse me my starter has just arrived.

I just read the end of your post properly , brilliant !!!! you'd better get back to the lingerie model your wining and dining before taking her back to your penthouse flat where you will make love on a bed of £50 notes for the next 3 days :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: FAO.all jack trolls!

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:21 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Only do in depth for pay mate.send me £500 and i will spend a day on it.thats£100 off for you!! You can get new decking for your caravan then!!but a quick glance at your club in any form makes me nauseous! Now get to bed its late for you!

my accountant deals with all my financial matters , I can't be jetting all over the world and doing my own books now can i :roll: