Ashley Williams...

Good thread this and some good points being made by both sides.Apart from Phil Davies who continues to be AAMB's galoot of the year.

I must admit, I laughed when he suggested Collins as better than Williams.

Lets face it, all you lot think he's The best in the world & we will disagree. We think Hudson is tidy & you lot will disagree...

All in the good nature of football rivalry.

I here Hudson is decent and i'll reserve judgement on him until he's played 20 games in the league.As for Collins,well.......

Hes rarely made any errors.

he's known for it.

by you maybe, not by anyone else. hes a rock and rarely makes a misplaced pass let alone a goal conceding error. I can probably think of 3 or 4 in his career with us. that's amazing.

HE had highest pass completion stats for a center back in the league and had most blocks and most interceptions, closely followed by Kompany.

I've heard some pointless stats in my time and the game is full of them, but pass completion for a centre back is right up there! . Williams to Chico, Williams to rat boy, can't really fail can he

As for most blocks an interceptions, I would have thought he had a lot more opportunity than kompany and many other top players in his position.

Lies, damn lies and football stats

So did Giggs.

We're discussing Williams here though. Keep on topic.

I know and ive given you an example of another world class player who didn't have amazing appearances for his country but excelled for club.

I know and ive given you an example of another world class player who didn't have amazing appearances for his country but excelled for club.

Ashley Williams & world class do not belong in the same sentence together.

I've heard some pointless stats in my time and the game is full of them, but pass completion for a centre back is right up there! . Williams to Chico, Williams to rat boy, can't really fail can he

As for most blocks an interceptions, I would have thought he had a lot more opportunity than kompany and many other top players in his position.

Lies, damn lies and football stats

Exactly. He's world class though, just ask Roathie.

So did Giggs.

We're discussing Williams here though. Keep on topic.

I know and ive given you an example of another world class player who didn't have amazing appearances for his country but excelled for club.

Any credibility left rapidly disappeared at this point.
World class ffs

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Absolutely is. He is one of the best defenders in the one of the best leagues in the world.

Champions league clubs are trying to sign him for a fee they rarely pay out for defenders. world class and a major reason we have gone from League 1 to European football in a very short space of time.

and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Definitely for the best i think,Phil.

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

I think it's for the best fella because you're making a right tit of yourself at the moment

Absolutely is. He is one of the best defenders in the one of the best leagues in the world.

Champions league clubs are trying to sign him for a fee they rarely pay out for defenders. world class and a major reason we have gone from League 1 to European football in a very short space of time.

What's bids have you had from CL clubs then?

It's taken them a while considering he's 28

Keep them coming RM, you're on top form today

Absolutely is. He is one of the best defenders in the one of the best leagues in the world.

Champions league clubs are trying to sign him for a fee they rarely pay out for defenders. world class and a major reason we have gone from League 1 to European football in a very short space of time.

What's bids have you had from CL clubs then?

It's taken them a while considering he's 28

Keep them coming RM, you're on top form today

Arsenal bid £8.3 million.

Champions League "clubs" - so who else?

Surely if he's world class, he'd be worth a bid more than 8 mil.

Champions League "clubs" - so who else?

Surely if he's world class, he'd be worth a bid more than 8 mil.

He is that's why we said no.

Napoli also bid £8 million.

Evidence on Napoli bid? first I've heard that.

If he was worth it, Arsenal would have bid more...

Very good player and one of the top 5 CB's in the division.Whether he's Welsh English or Israeli,I don't care.He's captain of Swansea and our leader.

Top 5.. Okay.

The issue I brought up was that he shouldn't be captain of WALES, not Swansea.

Name me 5 better centre halves then.

Michael Dawson
Jan Vertonghen
Nemanja Vidic
Vincent Kompany
John Terry

Well there's five ...

Johnny Evans
Gary Cahill
Phil Jagielka
Matija Nastasić
Fabricio Coloccini

There's another five ...

Evidence on Napoli bid? first I've heard that.

If he was worth it, Arsenal would have bid more...

Arsenal don't spend big money, especially not on center backs at 28 years of age.

Napoli bid was reported on planetswans by an insider. The links of them chasing him are a quick google search away though and are reported to come back with an improved offer along with Everton and Arsenal. We wont accept less than £10 million.

Champions League "clubs" - so who else?

Surely if he's world class, he'd be worth a bid more than 8 mil.

He is that's why we said no.

Napoli also bid £8 million.

Proof?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

Napoli bid was reported on planetswans by an insider. The links of them chasing him are a quick google search away though and are reported to come back with an improved offer along with Everton and Arsenal. We wont accept less than £10 million.

you can't back it up with evidence then.

Michael Dawson - NOPE
Jan Vertonghen - MAYBE
Nemanja Vidic - YES
Vincent Kompany - YES
John Terry - CERTAINLY NOT

Well there's five ...

Johnny Evans - NOPE
Gary Cahill - NOPE
Phil Jagielka - errrr NOPE
Matija Nastasić - MAYBE
Fabricio Coloccini - NOPE

There's another five ...

Champions League "clubs" - so who else?

Surely if he's world class, he'd be worth a bid more than 8 mil.

He is that's why we said no.

Napoli also bid £8 million.

Proof?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

NO BIDS ACCORDING TO JENKINS

so either Roathie is lying or honest show is...

Michael Dawson - NOPE
Jan Vertonghen - MAYBE
Nemanja Vidic - YES
Vincent Kompany - YES
John Terry - CERTAINLY NOT

Well there's five ...

Johnny Evans - NOPE
Gary Cahill - NOPE
Phil Jagielka - errrr NOPE
Matija Nastasić - MAYBE
Fabricio Coloccini - NOPE

There's another five ...

Michael Dawson - NOPE
Jan Vertonghen - MAYBE
Nemanja Vidic - YES
Vincent Kompany - YES
John Terry - CERTAINLY NOT

Well there's five ...

Johnny Evans - NOPE
Gary Cahill - NOPE
Phil Jagielka - errrr NOPE
Matija Nastasić - MAYBE
Fabricio Coloccini - NOPE

There's another five ...

What a convincing argument.
What a mare you're having

Napoli bid was reported on planetswans by an insider. The links of them chasing him are a quick google search away though and are reported to come back with an improved offer along with Everton and Arsenal. We wont accept less than £10 million.

you can't back it up with evidence then.

Evidence? Its not a court of law. Im telling you that Arsenal (Champions League club) had a £8.3m bid rejected which is documented. I believe the guy on planetswans that Napoli did too, you don't, that's fine. However their intent to sign him has been documented for a while, google it.

Evidence? Its not a court of law. Im telling you that Arsenal (Champions League club) had a £8.3m bid rejected which is documented. I believe the guy on planetswans that Napoli did too, you don't, that's fine. However their intent to sign him has been documented for a while, google it.

Well, you could make up all sorts of nonsense that someone has bid on someone, without having any evidence on it makes it rather weak.

Barcalona have been tracking Gestede by the way, they've put a bid in.

You're telling me that? Funny that.. Huw is quoted as telling everyone different... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

I notice you avoided that link earlier in the thread though.

Searching google? No thanks.. Not everyone is obsessed with their rivals as you are.

Michael Dawson - NOPE
Jan Vertonghen - MAYBE
Nemanja Vidic - YES
Vincent Kompany - YES
John Terry - CERTAINLY NOT

Well there's five ...

Johnny Evans - NOPE
Gary Cahill - NOPE
Phil Jagielka - errrr NOPE
Matija Nastasić - MAYBE
Fabricio Coloccini - NOPE

There's another five ...

What a convincing argument.
What a mare you're having

My opinion of whether they are better or not is just as valid as the original post stating who he thought WAS better.

your baiting skills leave a lot to be desired.

Champions League "clubs" - so who else?

Surely if he's world class, he'd be worth a bid more than 8 mil.

He is that's why we said no.

Napoli also bid £8 million.

Proof?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

NO BIDS ACCORDING TO JENKINS

so either Roathie is lying or honest show is...

He's struggling on this one chuckles. Apparently arsenal don't spend big, especially on 28 yo centre halves, which may well be true. But then surely that means they won't be expecting world class for their money? More like back up to vermaelen who isn't even first choice for arsenal.

Evidence? Its not a court of law. Im telling you that Arsenal (Champions League club) had a £8.3m bid rejected which is documented. I believe the guy on planetswans that Napoli did too, you don't, that's fine. However their intent to sign him has been documented for a while, google it.

Well, you could make up all sorts of nonsense that someone has bid on someone, without having any evidence on it makes it rather weak.

Barcalona have been tracking Gestede by the way, they've put a bid in.

You're telling me that? Funny that.. Huw is quoted as telling everyone different... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

I notice you avoided that link earlier in the thread though.

Searching google? No thanks.. Not everyone is obsessed with their rivals as you are.

yet you post on nearly every Swans related thread?

Arsenal bid £9m in January too

He's struggling on this one chuckles. Apparently arsenal don't spend big, especially on 28 yo centre halves, which may well be true. But then surely that means they won't be expecting world class for their money? More like back up to vermaelen who isn't even first choice for arsenal.

My word

I think hes a good example of how players can step up from the Championship and perform, hopefully a few of our lads can do the same