Give some credit to VT

Bluebirds Unite page on Facebook is awash tonight with vitriol and threats of violence against Tan. The battle is lost before its started

What battle

Bluebirds Unite page on Facebook is awash tonight with vitriol and threats of violence against Tan. The battle is lost before its started

Proof? I don't see any.

Bluebirds Unite page on Facebook is awash tonight with vitriol and threats of violence against Tan. The battle is lost before its started

Proof? I don't see any.

He does not need any just say there is thats good enough i suppose

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

Post of the year!! As Craig Bellamy said "We are lucky to have him."

Proof? Go on there and check how many people want to"knock Tan out"or punch him in the face.

Proof? Go on there and check how many people want to"knock Tan out"or punch him in the face.

Yes proof. Proof of any threats to Tan. Seeing as you're quite happy to claim this, please provide the facts to back up your story.

All I see it criticism, which is allowed...

As someone I know recently said "it doesn't matter what we might win under Tan because feeling you belong to your club is worth more than any trophy"!

Not quite how I remember it on that historic night against Charlton Or may the thousands on the pitch really didn't belong to this club.

Oops, Love - 30 to Tony Blue Williams

Not really... It's just that someone has a different opinion to Tony "Blue" Williams. Just because you agree with him, doesn't mean he's right.

Some do feel that it isn't the same & I am one of them. doesn't mean I'm right/wrong, just means that this is how I feel.

you are so right 100 percent what he has done for this club is great look at where we are now

As someone I know recently said "it doesn't matter what we might win under Tan because feeling you belong to your club is worth more than any trophy"!

Not quite how I remember it on that historic night against Charlton Or may the thousands on the pitch really didn't belong to this club.

I was on the pitch after the Charlton game and I enjoyed it, but did I feel the same elation as I did when we beat QPR in the playoffs? Nowhere near I'm afraid! The fact the loudest chant after the Charlton game was "We're Cardiff City, we'll always be blue" ahead of any promotion/Premiership song spoke volumes imo.

The BU still have a few idiots in their group, really need to address their behavior on social sites.

The BU still have a few idiots in their group, really need to address their behavior on social sites.

Just like the "pro reds" who do similar?

Just because they belong to a group, doesn't mean that it is the views of the group.

Eg. I'm an CCFC ST holder, that doesn't mean my views are the ones of CCFC.

The BU still have a few idiots in their group, really need to address their behavior on social sites.

Just like the "pro reds" who do similar?

Just because they belong to a group, doesn't mean that it is the views of the group.

Eg. I'm an CCFC ST holder, that doesn't mean my views are the ones of CCFC.

Exactly, the pro reds are all angels aren't they!

The BU still have a few idiots in their group, really need to address their behavior on social sites.

Just like the "pro reds" who do similar?

Just because they belong to a group, doesn't mean that it is the views of the group.

Eg. I'm an CCFC ST holder, that doesn't mean my views are the ones of CCFC.

I doubt there are any actual Pro reds.

I think we all agree that Tan came i when we needed someone to help us, as the club was so deep in the shit thanks to various chairmen b4... and yes he's saved us.

BUT, to me that means nothing as he's taken our identity away from us. And for what reason? For his own selfish preference of red and his superstition of Dragons being powerful etc

All this Tan stuff with fans is starting to do my head in, We all rather be Blue but we not, so lets just get behind the man who is willing to pump money into the club, We all know that when there is a new owner at the club to make him a hero all he has to do is turn us Blue, i for one think we all should get of our high horse and enjoy PREMIER LEAGUE FOOTBALL in stead of arguing over it. I honestly don't care if your red or blue, long as your Cardiff city then i'm happy

All this Tan stuff with fans is starting to do my head in, We all rather be Blue but we not, so lets just get behind the man who is willing to pump money into the club, We all know that when there is a new owner at the club to make him a hero all he has to do is turn us Blue, i for one think we all should get of our high horse and enjoy PREMIER LEAGUE FOOTBALL in stead of arguing over it. I honestly don't care if your red or blue, long as your Cardiff city then i'm happy

No. people are actually allowed to have a differing opinion to you.

Tonteg, we still have our identity.

That's your opinion, but for me the colour and badge of every football club defines their identity. I will always be blue and I will always be a Bluebird. That's how I feel and nothing will ever change that.

Well said !

All this Tan stuff with fans is starting to do my head in, We all rather be Blue but we not, so lets just get behind the man who is willing to pump money into the club, We all know that when there is a new owner at the club to make him a hero all he has to do is turn us Blue, i for one think we all should get of our high horse and enjoy PREMIER LEAGUE FOOTBALL in stead of arguing over it. I honestly don't care if your red or blue, long as your Cardiff city then i'm happy

No. people are actually allowed to have a differing opinion to you.

i'm not knocking any one for their opinion, but that's how i feel

Thank you Mr Tan for making the club Debt Free

Not really... It's just that someone has a different opinion to Tony "Blue" Williams. Just because you agree with him, doesn't mean he's right.

Some do feel that it isn't the same & I am one of them. doesn't mean I'm right/wrong, just means that this is how I feel.

Fair enough I can actually believe you on that as you quite clearly have some kind of manic depression.

However, I think it is quite nonsensical to claim the vast majority of fans are so disaffected by the rebrand that they are no longer feel part of the club. If it was that bad then there wouldn't have been firstly such a clamour for tickets for the Charlton game (plus season tickets for this year) and secondly such celebrations on the pitch afterwards.

Fair enough I can actually believe you on that as you quite clearly have some kind of manic depression.

However, I think it is quite nonsensical to claim the vast majority of fans are so disaffected by the rebrand that they are no longer feel part of the club. If it was that bad then there wouldn't have been firstly such a clamour for tickets for the Charlton game (plus season tickets for this year) and secondly such celebrations on the pitch afterwards.

More wild and incorrect assumptions from "Blue".

Quite simply a case of "Support the team, not the regime."

No. people are actually allowed to have a differing opinion to you.

Yes we know that There is no need to keep reminding us as freedom of speech has be around along time now going back as far as 1215 and the Magna Carta. So lets get on with the football debate?

Yes we know that

Maybe you should go and preach to the others then, because there are many on here that don't think opinions are allowed.

Fair enough I can actually believe you on that as you quite clearly have some kind of manic depression.

However, I think it is quite nonsensical to claim the vast majority of fans are so disaffected by the rebrand that they are no longer feel part of the club. If it was that bad then there wouldn't have been firstly such a clamour for tickets for the Charlton game (plus season tickets for this year) and secondly such celebrations on the pitch afterwards.

More wild and incorrect assumptions from "Blue".

Quite simply a case of "Support the team, not the regime."

Your replies are getting desperate now. OK I have 'assumed' the thousands of fans on the pitch that night were very happy and felt part of the club. Mind you with the above reply from you I'm pretty certain I'm not far off with my "Manic Depression" supposition.

Oh dear, wrong again "Blue" - you made wild assumptions about me & yet again were totally wrong.

You're going on ignore now, because your brown nosing nonsense bores me. You claim to be against the rebrand, yet at any time, become an apologist for Tan and his ghastly rebrand.

All this Tan stuff with fans is starting to do my head in, We all rather be Blue but we not, so lets just get behind the man who is willing to pump money into the club, We all know that when there is a new owner at the club to make him a hero all he has to do is turn us Blue, i for one think we all should get of our high horse and enjoy PREMIER LEAGUE FOOTBALL in stead of arguing over it. I honestly don't care if your red or blue, long as your Cardiff city then i'm happy

Well Ozzy this is what worries me.

If we do as you say by basically not making a stand for the blue then how is a new owner going to see us wanting a return to our identity. In life if you don't make a stand no one will know.

Oh dear, wrong again "Blue" - you made wild assumptions about me & yet again were totally wrong.

You're going on ignore now, because your brown nosing nonsense bores me. You claim to be against the rebrand, yet at any time, become an apologist for Tan and his ghastly rebrand.

Here is another assumption putting someone on ignore because they have out debated you is a sign of a loser

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23362625

An excellent post Gavin but sadly although most everything you say is correct when you read through the replies on this thread any reasonable person would, in my opinion, understand why VT says " I'm disappointed that after 51 years of not being in the top flight that there are still fans who think we haven't done a good job"

From the moment VT & TG invested in the club we have started on a path of professional management with one aim and that is to put the club on a solid financial footing for the longterm. As VT says in that interview he has ploughed an absolute fortune into the club, probably more than any other previous owner in the 48 years I have been watching the City.

But with VT it goes beyond just ploughing money in because I believe from day 1 he has had a vision for the club and one by one the promises he made are being delivered. Again something no other owner in my experience has done.

At the outset of the rebrand he said that he was looking for "New Investors" and that he felt that the search would have to be "International" as there were no obvious candidates locally. In the BBC interview he again mentions "New" Malaysian investors, maybe not just now but he believes when the time is right it is possible.

Having kept the club afloat, funded last season promotion campaign, having plans approved from the new training ground, plans to provide an additional 5,000 seats for season 2014/15, providing MM with a realtisic transfer budget this summer, on the verge of settling the Langstone Issue and of course his promise to convert his loans to equity in the club.

What more must this man do to get some recognition for his achievements change the home colours back to blue.

In my opinion that's classic parochialism in that the world withing the Cardiff City parish will only be OK if the team play in blue. The problem with that outlook is that we are now playing in a league which is a worldwide brand and we need to have a broader outlook than narrow parochial views of the blue Cardiff City.

There is a big wide world out there gentleman and we are lucky enough to have a massively successful businessman in charge at Cardiff City Football Club. Although I identify our club with the name Cardiff City Football Club, the nicknames Bluebirds and the city and of course the colour blue I can look beyond the one aspect which has been changed because of the massive steps forward that have been achieved by having VT involved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23362625

An excellent post Gavin but sadly although most everything you say is correct when you read through the replies on this thread any reasonable person would, in my opinion, understand why VT says " I'm disappointed that after 51 years of not being in the top flight that there are still fans who think we haven't done a good job"

From the moment VT & TG invested in the club we have started on a path of professional management with one aim and that is to put the club on a solid financial footing for the longterm. As VT says in that interview he has ploughed an absolute fortune into the club, probably more than any other previous owner in the 48 years I have been watching the City.

But with VT it goes beyond just ploughing money in because I believe from day 1 he has had a vision for the club and one by one the promises he made are being delivered. Again something no other owner in my experience has done.

At the outset of the rebrand he said that he was looking for "New Investors" and that he felt that the search would have to be "International" as there were no obvious candidates locally. In the BBC interview he again mentions "New" Malaysian investors, maybe not just now but he believes when the time is right it is possible.

Having kept the club afloat, funded last season promotion campaign, having plans approved from the new training ground, plans to provide an additional 5,000 seats for season 2014/15, providing MM with a realtisic transfer budget this summer, on the verge of settling the Langstone Issue and of course his promise to convert his loans to equity in the club.

What more must this man do to get some recognition for his achievements change the home colours back to blue.

In my opinion that's classic parochialism in that the world withing the Cardiff City parish will only be OK if the team play in blue. The problem with that outlook is that we are now playing in a league which is a worldwide brand and we need to have a broader outlook than narrow parochial views of the blue Cardiff City.

There is a big wide world out there gentleman and we are lucky enough to have a massively successful businessman in charge at Cardiff City Football Club. Although I identify our club with the name Cardiff City Football Club, the nicknames Bluebirds and the city and of course the colour blue I can look beyond the one aspect which has been changed because of the massive steps forward that have been achieved by having VT involved.

A phenomenal reply from the best poster on this message board