Dear Jack bastards...

& you might end up back there too. I love how some of you lot seem to think you're immune to relegation.

don't think that at all, if you would have taken time to read the posts some of it was about the quality of the teams as it stands , i think we have the quality to stay up but as it stands you dont, i might be wrong who knows.

Obviously we would be one of the favourites to go down if we didnt strengthen.

Obviously we would be one of the favourites to go down if we didnt strengthen.

i asked the question do you think you have any quality players there already that will make the difference, you want to come on here as usual with your cocky arrogant comments carry on stupid

Obviously we would be one of the favourites to go down if we didnt strengthen.

i asked the question do you think you have any quality players there already that will make the difference, you want to come on here as usual with your cocky arrogant comments carry on stupid

Do I think the squad as it stands would stay up? No... But we haven't strengthened yet. how is that cocky?

My point was that many Jacks seem to think you are immune to relegation, when you simply aren't.

Obviously we would be one of the favourites to go down if we didnt strengthen.

i asked the question do you think you have any quality players there already that will make the difference, you want to come on here as usual with your cocky arrogant comments carry on stupid

Do I think the squad as it stands would stay up? No... But we haven't strengthened yet. how is that cocky?

My point was that many Jacks seem to think you are immune to relegation, when you simply aren't.

Considering you've been up for a few months now and malky must have identified since xmas potential targets for the pl are you getting a bit concerned that you haven't really strengthened yet. That back 4of yours looks way off pl standard.

Obviously we would be one of the favourites to go down if we didnt strengthen.

i asked the question do you think you have any quality players there already that will make the difference, you want to come on here as usual with your cocky arrogant comments carry on stupid

Do I think the squad as it stands would stay up? No... But we haven't strengthened yet. how is that cocky?

My point was that many Jacks seem to think you are immune to relegation, when you simply aren't.

Considering you've been up for a few months now and malky must have identified since xmas potential targets for the pl are you getting a bit concerned that you haven't really strengthened yet. That back 4of yours looks way off pl standard.

No. Plenty of time yet. Back four is weak at the moment. Centre half and 1/2 fullbacks will see to that.

He's right though.. Going by their own theories, Wigan are MUCH bigger than Swansea.

Northampton and Bradford are bigger than the jacks along with numerous other lower league clubs (Bristol City, Swindon, Charlton, Leeds, Brighton and Plymouth to name but a few)

Swindon, Charlton, Plymouth, Bristol City, Northampton? lay off the cider Wilts. Leeds are a bigger club than both of us, You'll see how 'big' you lot are next season when you visit Manchester and the London clubs. In fact it will hit home just how small you are.

We aren't big however we are bigger than Swansea.

Northampton took twice as many as you lot in 1997 play off final. Some of you lot on here post crap about how you are massive all over the world etc because there is an advert in a Korean shopping centre. Your normally a rational jack on here. Don let idiots like jackf and nj73 colour your judgement

who has said swansea are massive all over the world you made that up you fool, but swansea are more well known in europe than you lot are:thumbup:

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

where does he compare fulham to cardiff you fecking moron , i'm sure you're getting stupider every day smurph

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

The point still stands, how about hearts and hibs they play in a capital city are they bigger than rangers and celtic the list goes on in Germany, Italy. And the reason there is only one club in cardiff is because cardiff is not very big

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

The point still stands, how about hearts and hibs they play in a capital city are they bigger than rangers and celtic the list goes on in Germany, Italy.

Maybe if there was just one club in Edinburgh, they would be as big as celtic and rangers. Cardiff's a one club city, get that into your thick head.

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

The point still stands, how about hearts and hibs they play in a capital city are they bigger than rangers and celtic the list goes on in Germany, Italy. And the reason there is only one club in cardiff is because cardiff is not very big

Glasgow is a bigger City than Edinburgh and its two major clubs are bigger than Hearts and Hibs. Not every capital city is the biggest in its country. Brasilia being another example. Cardiff is a medium sized city in terms of the UK. Ignorance clearly is bliss.

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

The point still stands, how about hearts and hibs they play in a capital city are they bigger than rangers and celtic the list goes on in Germany, Italy.

Maybe if there was just one club in Edinburgh, they would be as big as celtic and rangers. Cardiff's a one club city, get that into your thick head.

if you put hearts and hibs together they still wouldn't be anywhere near the size of rangers and celtic, cardiff is a small capital city that why you only have one club

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

The point still stands, how about hearts and hibs they play in a capital city are they bigger than rangers and celtic the list goes on in Germany, Italy. And the reason there is only one club in cardiff is because cardiff is not very big

Glasgow is a bigger City than Edinburgh and its two major clubs are bigger than Hearts and Hibs. Not every capital city is the biggest in its country. Brasilia being another example. Cardiff is a medium sized city in terms of the UK. Ignorance clearly is bliss.

Dont tell me tell that idiot who thinks that being a capital city is one reason that makes cardiff a bigger club than swansea

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Hmmm..

Bigger ground? Newcastle against Liverpool is hardly a fair comparison seeing as Liverpool are the second biggest Club
in Britain behind Man Utd, with huge support all over the World.

Bigger City? again, try harder, the population of Cardiff as a unitary authority is bigger than that of Bradford, though
Bradford is part of a larger urban area which they share with.... Leeds. Cardiff to all intents and purposes ''shares''
South Wales with Swansea and i think we've already ascertained that Cardiff pull large numbers of supporters from
right on Swansea's doorstep.

Cardiff City are THE club in the Capital City of Wales. Fulham are one of a dozen. If you asked the majority of people
in Europe where Fulham actually was, theyd probably be clueless.

Done nowt for 86 years? Your right. But add up all the above criteria, and just do a one on one - Cardiff
versus Swansea.... we beat you hands down dont we

lj clearly missed my post.

2012-2013 Avg. Attendence; Cardiff = 22,998, Swansea = 20,370
2010-2011 Avg. Attendance (last time at same level) Cardiff = 22,091, Swansea 15,507
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 9th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 7 of 9.

Current number 1 club in Wales? No.
Wales' all-time most successful club? Yes.
Biggest club in Wales (past and present)? Yes.

He's right though.. Going by their own theories, Wigan are MUCH bigger than Swansea.

Northampton and Bradford are bigger than the jacks along with numerous other lower league clubs (Bristol City, Swindon, Charlton, Leeds, Brighton and Plymouth to name but a few)

Swindon, Charlton, Plymouth, Bristol City, Northampton? lay off the cider Wilts. Leeds are a bigger club than both of us, You'll see how 'big' you lot are next season when you visit Manchester and the London clubs. In fact it will hit home just how small you are.

We aren't big however we are bigger than Swansea.

Northampton took twice as many as you lot in 1997 play off final. Some of you lot on here post crap about how you are massive all over the world etc because there is an advert in a Korean shopping centre. Your normally a rational jack on here. Don let idiots like jackf and nj73 colour your judgement

Took 44k to playoff final the other year and the full 30 odd thousand we were given for the cup final - how many did Northampton take to the play off final this year? f**k me Swansea and Cardiff are totally different from what they were in 1997 -Northampton have hardly changed!

Globally due to the exposure we get from TV coverage and the players from various countries, Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Hmmm..

Bigger ground? Newcastle against Liverpool is hardly a fair comparison seeing as Liverpool are the second biggest Club
in Britain behind Man Utd, with huge support all over the World.

Bigger City? again, try harder, the population of Cardiff as a unitary authority is bigger than that of Bradford, though
Bradford is part of a larger urban area which they share with.... Leeds. Cardiff to all intents and purposes ''shares''
South Wales with Swansea and i think we've already ascertained that Cardiff pull large numbers of supporters from
right on Swansea's doorstep.

Cardiff City are THE club in the Capital City of Wales. Fulham are one of a dozen. If you asked the majority of people
in Europe where Fulham actually was, theyd probably be clueless.

Done nowt for 86 years? Your right. But add up all the above criteria, and just do a one on one - Cardiff
versus Swansea.... we beat you hands down dont we

the population of cardiff is about 326000, you cardiff fans keep going on about south wales ffs over 800 dutch travelled over for our playoff final in 2011 and that 800 were the lucky ones who could get tickets how many dutch came over to support cardiff and wembley and there are plenty of swans fans right across south wales only a complete fool would say otherwise.

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

f**k me. I almost split me sides then.

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

f**k me. I almost split me sides then.

I see spanish, dutch, germans all the time at the liberty, and that is a FACT

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

f**k me. I almost split me sides then.

I see spanish, dutch, germans all the time at the liberty, and that is a FACT

We have always had the odd Dutch/German/Irish/Scottish supporters down the City. So what?
Its fair to say we have Scottish fans who spend more time in Cardiff than a lot of us do

But were not about to claim ''world fame''

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

f**k me. I almost split me sides then.

I see spanish, dutch, germans all the time at the liberty, and that is a FACT

We have always had the odd Dutch/German/Irish/Scottish supporters down the City. So what?
Its fair to say we have Scottish fans who spend more time in Cardiff than a lot of us do

But were not about to claim ''world fame''

You admit you have the odd dutch german etc Well there are loads at most Swans games

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

Laugh all you want pal. The TV figures, fans visiting and watching us, buying shirt etc is astonishing. Like I said, If you do well you'll get the same.

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

Laugh all you want pal. The TV figures, fans visiting and watching us, buying shirt etc is astonishing. Like I said, If you do well you'll get the same.

I'l be astonished if you show me some evidence of this. Because all the concrete evidence points to the fact that
Jenkins thinks a 30,000 seater is a waste of time. Unless of course your running charter flights from Bavaria

Swansea are a known football brand now. Cardiff will get the same if they do well in this league. Spain, Korea, Holland, Denmark and Germany are big markets for Swansea.

Laugh all you want pal. The TV figures, fans visiting and watching us, buying shirt etc is astonishing. Like I said, If you do well you'll get the same.

I'l be astonished if you show me some evidence of this. Because all the concrete evidence points to the fact that
Jenkins thinks a 30,000 seater is a waste of time. Unless of course your running charter flights from Bavaria

You will be staggered to see the exposure worldwide this league gets, it helps Swansea a lot more as our squad comes from all over europe and now Korea and Africa so naturally people from those countries will take great interest in Swansea because we have players from those countries. We are swamped by Koreans visiting every home game, I've met yanks, swedes, danes, germans - the list goes on.

As for 30k seater - it will happen eventually, but we are in no rush as we build slowly and organically without gambling our future away. End of next season should see phase 1/2 starting of the expansion. This season the amount of competitions we are in will see the squad stretched so I guess HJ sees squad building more important than stadium building. In the meantime the ST waiting list grows and grows.

Some facts for you -read the full article, especially the bit about tv audiences.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-20895147

Despite attendances, how are we bigger than the jerks?

Bigger attendances. Bigger ground. Bigger catchment area. Won bigger trophies. Been in Three FA Cup Finals.
Been in European Semi-finals. Played in Europe a lot more. Once only lost the Football League on goal average.
Bigger City. Capital City. Historically have a large fan base right in the heart of Swanseas catchment area. The
point being, the jacks try to say "oh we been in the Premiership two years longer" as their reason for
being bigger than Cardiff. But there's not ONE Jack fan would admit to Wigan being a bigger Club than them.

Bigger ground does that make newcastle bigger than liverpool then , bigger city does then mean bradford is a bigger club than cardiff because bradford is a bigger city is fulham a bigger club than man utd because fulham play in a capital city and man u do not Swansea is without doubt the biggest club in wales, you aint done nowt for 86yrs you haven't played in the top div for 50yrs

Well you can't really compare fulham to cardiff as there is just one pro team in cardiff, and a load in london.

where does he compare fulham to cardiff you fecking moron , i'm sure you're getting stupider every day smurph

Well he mentioned Fulham as a London club you f*cking spastic. Don't abuse me when I'm not talking to you. Go and die you c**t!

1985 jack. Size is not the reason Cardiff only has one club. Nottingham is smaller then Cardiff, yet has 2 clubs!