I think the away kit

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Question for you LutonBluebird, do you want Cardiff to return to blue?

Any news on the release date yet?

I wont spend a thing in that shop till we return to blue with our proper badge.

Im buying the yellow one cant wait.

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Question for you LutonBluebird, do you want Cardiff to return to blue?

Yes, very much so.

Will never wear a Red HOME shirt, I hope we will return to playing in our rightful colours,

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Question for you LutonBluebird, do you want Cardiff to return to blue?

Yes, very much so.

Will never wear a Red HOME shirt, I hope we will return to playing in our rightful colours,

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Question for you LutonBluebird, do you want Cardiff to return to blue?

Yes, very much so.

Will never wear a Red HOME shirt, I hope we will return to playing in our rightful colours,

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

Its quite simple really.

If you are against the rebrand (which is shirt colour and BADGE) and purchase anything with the new badge on it you are a hypocrite.

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Question for you LutonBluebird, do you want Cardiff to return to blue?

Yes, very much so.

Will never wear a Red HOME shirt, I hope we will return to playing in our rightful colours,

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

Its quite simple really.

If you are against the rebrand (which is shirt colour and BADGE) and purchase anything with the new badge on it you are a hypocrite.

Whether you want to return to blue is irrelevant.

Like I've said before, although the badge was included in the rebrand (and I don't like it at all), badge changes don't bother me as they change at all clubs from time to time. The only "rebrand" in my eyes is the change of colour, which has never changed in the history of Cardiff City FC until last summer, if you disagree with that then you must think that this club has rebranded quite a lot through badge changes. Can you atleast show SOME understanding in my logic?

Even tho the badge is shit ill buy the blue top, premier badges n all.



If Annis says its decent then that's good news

Question for you LutonBluebird, do you want Cardiff to return to blue?

Yes, very much so.

Will never wear a Red HOME shirt, I hope we will return to playing in our rightful colours,

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

Its quite simple really.

If you are against the rebrand (which is shirt colour and BADGE) and purchase anything with the new badge on it you are a hypocrite.

Whether you want to return to blue is irrelevant.

Like I've said before, although the badge was included in the rebrand (and I don't like it at all), badge changes don't bother me as they change at all clubs from time to time. The only "rebrand" in my eyes is the change of colour, which has never changed in the history of Cardiff City FC until last summer, if you disagree with that then you must think that this club has rebranded quite a lot through badge changes. Can you atleast show SOME understanding in my logic?

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

But I don't consider the badge to be "rebranded", I just consider it to be changed, like it has many times before. The reason I consider only the shirt colour to be rebranded is because we had over 100 years of history in blue and it was suddenly changed to red. If the badge is considered to be "rebranded", then that MUST mean we've rebranded many times before. I know you can say that the badge is part of the rebrand though, because it is, but it can also be said that Tan's investment is part of the rebrand therefore every single person who pays money to watch Cardiff City matches are hypocrites, but of course I don't share that view.

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

The difference is you try and belittle those who buy the red and make their choice when you are as bad as them for buying rebrand merchandise, Jules doesn't. He just buys the blue, gets on with things, each to their own. I know from Twitter he has a very easy going attitude. Massive difference in your opinions as far as im concerned.

You're a hypocrite and an idiot because you wont accept facts because your opinion is worth more to you than facts. An opinion doesn't make you right even if you believe it does. Its no different to a religious nut who cant accept scientific evidence, its bewildering to say the least.

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

But I don't consider the badge to be "rebranded", I just consider it to be changed, like it has many times before. The reason I consider only the shirt colour to be rebranded is because we had over 100 years of history in blue and it was suddenly changed to red. If the badge is considered to be "rebranded", then that MUST mean we've rebranded many times before. I know you can say that the badge is part of the rebrand though, because it is, but it can also be said that Tan's investment is part of the rebrand therefore every single person who pays money to watch Cardiff City matches are hypocrites, but of course I don't share that view.

Straight up, no one gives a shit what you consider because the truth is there for everyone to see. The badge is rebranded and not only just changed. Ask anyone if the badge is part of the rebrand, it is. The dragon, our focal emblem, no longer the bluebird. It was announced as part of the rebrand. Again, as stated above, believe what you want but your opinion however strong it may be does not change facts based on the evidence in front of us.

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

But I don't consider the badge to be "rebranded", I just consider it to be changed, like it has many times before. The reason I consider only the shirt colour to be rebranded is because we had over 100 years of history in blue and it was suddenly changed to red. If the badge is considered to be "rebranded", then that MUST mean we've rebranded many times before. I know you can say that the badge is part of the rebrand though, because it is, but it can also be said that Tan's investment is part of the rebrand therefore every single person who pays money to watch Cardiff City matches are hypocrites, but of course I don't share that view.

Those who refuse to accept the rebrand but attend are hypocrites in my opinion as I believe by paying to go you are accepting it (reluctantly, but accepting)

The rebrand was a whole package. The switch in shirt colour and new badge for £100m investment. We had a choice, say NO and refuse to go. Say YES and it goes ahead. Only a few people said no and no longer attend. The rest of us reluctantly (some more than others) accepted. We cant pick and choose what parts of the rebrand we accept as it is a package.

The rebrand was a whole package. The switch in shirt colour and new badge for £100m investment. We had a choice, say NO and refuse to go. Say YES and it goes ahead. Only a few people said no and no longer attend. The rest of us reluctantly (some more than others) accepted. We cant pick and choose what parts of the rebrand we accept as it is a package.

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

The difference is you try and belittle those who buy the red and make their choice when you are as bad as them for buying rebrand merchandise, Jules doesn't. He just buys the blue, gets on with things, each to their own. I know from Twitter he has a very easy going attitude. Massive difference in your opinions as far as im concerned.

You're a hypocrite and an idiot because you wont accept facts because your opinion is worth more to you than facts. An opinion doesn't make you right even if you believe it does. Its no different to a religious nut who cant accept scientific evidence, its bewildering to say the least.

I only belittle those who claim that they want blue back when they actively support the rebrand by wearing red. If they just wear red and just get on with it then fair enough, I wouldn't belittle them.

It makes no difference at all, if you think I'm a hypocrite for wanting us to change back to blue but also buying the blue away shirt, then you think LutonBluebird is a hypocrite as well (and many others). Stop jumping around it.

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

But I don't consider the badge to be "rebranded", I just consider it to be changed, like it has many times before. The reason I consider only the shirt colour to be rebranded is because we had over 100 years of history in blue and it was suddenly changed to red. If the badge is considered to be "rebranded", then that MUST mean we've rebranded many times before. I know you can say that the badge is part of the rebrand though, because it is, but it can also be said that Tan's investment is part of the rebrand therefore every single person who pays money to watch Cardiff City matches are hypocrites, but of course I don't share that view.

Straight up, no one gives a shit what you consider because the truth is there for everyone to see. The badge is rebranded and not only just changed. Ask anyone if the badge is part of the rebrand, it is. The dragon, our focal emblem, no longer the bluebird. It was announced as part of the rebrand. Again, as stated above, believe what you want but your opinion however strong it may be does not change facts based on the evidence in front of us.

If you don't give a shit then you wouldn't respond to me.

You're being ignorant again, Barnett. I KNOW I don't share the same view as the majority of our fanbase. It's my own personal view.

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

But I don't consider the badge to be "rebranded", I just consider it to be changed, like it has many times before. The reason I consider only the shirt colour to be rebranded is because we had over 100 years of history in blue and it was suddenly changed to red. If the badge is considered to be "rebranded", then that MUST mean we've rebranded many times before. I know you can say that the badge is part of the rebrand though, because it is, but it can also be said that Tan's investment is part of the rebrand therefore every single person who pays money to watch Cardiff City matches are hypocrites, but of course I don't share that view.

Those who refuse to accept the rebrand but attend are hypocrites in my opinion as I believe by paying to go you are accepting it (reluctantly, but accepting)

The rebrand was a whole package. The switch in shirt colour and new badge for £100m investment. We had a choice, say NO and refuse to go. Say YES and it goes ahead. Only a few people said no and no longer attend. The rest of us reluctantly (some more than others) accepted. We cant pick and choose what parts of the rebrand we accept as it is a package.

Because you think that there's no point in us going on and on about it.

It makes no difference at all, if you think I'm a hypocrite for wanting us to change back to blue but also buying the blue away shirt, then you think LutonBluebird is a hypocrite as well (and many others). Stop jumping around it.

I dont think you are a hypocrite for buying blue you abject moron. I think you are hypocrite for saying you are against the rebrand totally but then buying rebrand merchandise. Jules (LutonBluebird) buys rebrand merchandise, im yet to here him moan about the rebrand or how he hates Tan and so on or pick at others. Therein lies the difference.

If Jules buys the rebrand merchandise and then says 'he hates the rebrand and wants Tan out' then yes hes a hypocrite but i've yet to hear him say anything of the sort whereas you have blasted Tan and the rebrand at any attempt. Dont lie because you know you have.

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

The difference is you try and belittle those who buy the red and make their choice when you are as bad as them for buying rebrand merchandise, Jules doesn't. He just buys the blue, gets on with things, each to their own. I know from Twitter he has a very easy going attitude. Massive difference in your opinions as far as im concerned.

You're a hypocrite and an idiot because you wont accept facts because your opinion is worth more to you than facts. An opinion doesn't make you right even if you believe it does. Its no different to a religious nut who cant accept scientific evidence, its bewildering to say the least.

I only belittle those who claim that they want blue back when they actively support the rebrand by wearing red. If they just wear red and just get on with it then fair enough, I wouldn't belittle them.

It makes no difference at all, if you think I'm a hypocrite for wanting us to change back to blue but also buying the blue away shirt, then you think LutonBluebird is a hypocrite as well (and many others). Stop jumping around it.

Jon, can you not see that by wearing the rebranded badge, you yourself are actively supporting the rebrand. Just like those who wear the red shirt are, which you have said yourself in this quoted post.

It's like supporting a club. If you don't like a certain player or if you don't like the board then that doesn't mean you're considered a hypocrite, even though it's all part of the package of supporting the club. But if you actually do think that then fair enough.

I understand the badge doesnt bother you but you cannot change the definition of the word hypocrite in the english dictionary.
Your action in buying the rebranded top is hypocritical because you say you hate the rebrand.

Can you understand that?

But I don't consider the badge to be "rebranded", I just consider it to be changed, like it has many times before. The reason I consider only the shirt colour to be rebranded is because we had over 100 years of history in blue and it was suddenly changed to red. If the badge is considered to be "rebranded", then that MUST mean we've rebranded many times before. I know you can say that the badge is part of the rebrand though, because it is, but it can also be said that Tan's investment is part of the rebrand therefore every single person who pays money to watch Cardiff City matches are hypocrites, but of course I don't share that view.

Those who refuse to accept the rebrand but attend are hypocrites in my opinion as I believe by paying to go you are accepting it (reluctantly, but accepting)

The rebrand was a whole package. The switch in shirt colour and new badge for £100m investment. We had a choice, say NO and refuse to go. Say YES and it goes ahead. Only a few people said no and no longer attend. The rest of us reluctantly (some more than others) accepted. We cant pick and choose what parts of the rebrand we accept as it is a package.

Because you think that there's no point in us going on and on about it.

If you were like Alfie or TLG then you have every right to go on as much as you like as you, like them have refused to accept the rebrand. You attend matches and buy merchandise and there lies the issue.

Well according to the logic of Sven Ghali/CraigCCFC/Barnett etc, you are a hypocrite.

Madness right?

The difference is you try and belittle those who buy the red and make their choice when you are as bad as them for buying rebrand merchandise, Jules doesn't. He just buys the blue, gets on with things, each to their own. I know from Twitter he has a very easy going attitude. Massive difference in your opinions as far as im concerned.

You're a hypocrite and an idiot because you wont accept facts because your opinion is worth more to you than facts. An opinion doesn't make you right even if you believe it does. Its no different to a religious nut who cant accept scientific evidence, its bewildering to say the least.

I only belittle those who claim that they want blue back when they actively support the rebrand by wearing red. If they just wear red and just get on with it then fair enough, I wouldn't belittle them.

It makes no difference at all, if you think I'm a hypocrite for wanting us to change back to blue but also buying the blue away shirt, then you think LutonBluebird is a hypocrite as well (and many others). Stop jumping around it.

Jon, can you not see that by wearing the rebranded badge, you yourself are actively supporting the rebrand. Just like those who wear the red shirt are, which you have said yourself in this quoted post.

I can't be bothered explaining myself again

You're being ignorant again, Barnett. I KNOW I don't share the same view as the majority of our fanbase. It's my own personal view.

You dont share the same opinion as the majority of our fan base because the majority of our fan base are not morons. Even Annis knows by going to games he is supporting the rebrand financially and the club. He can claim he hates the rebrand as much as any other person but if you still go you are still supporting Tan. I accept it, I accept my money goes straight into that bastards coffers, why cant you? The only people who truly oppose the rebrand are those who walk, dont put no money into the club etc. TLG for example.

If you claim to be fully against the rebrand but still go you are a hypocrite. Its like me claiming to hate TESCO's and everything they stand for yet still doing my shopping there every Friday. Where do you think the money goes Jon? It goes where Tan wants, you cant just believe in cloud bluebird land that it only goes to Malky and the team.

i came on here to hopefully see pics and stuff of the new away kit and all i got was another thread full of arguments, abuse and people trying to prove themselves to each other. get over it lads.

It's like supporting a club. If you don't like a certain player or if you don't like the board then that doesn't mean you're considered a hypocrite, even though it's all part of the package of supporting the club. But if you actually do think that then fair enough.

There are players I dislike, but I accept the fact they play for the club.

You say you refuse to accept the rebrand.......there, again lies the problem.

If you said "I dislike the colour change but have reluctantly accepted the rebrand none the less " then that would be fair and you would no longer be a hypocrite.

When I see Jon in his rebranded top all I see is another person who's put money in Tans business and supported him. Then, not only has he supported it financially but he has supported it by marketing Tans rebrand designs every time he wears the shirts.

Cant believe Jon cant understand this. I'll be writing a letter to Michael Gove soon because its evidently clear the education system is failing. God give me strength.

It makes no difference at all, if you think I'm a hypocrite for wanting us to change back to blue but also buying the blue away shirt, then you think LutonBluebird is a hypocrite as well (and many others). Stop jumping around it.

I dont think you are a hypocrite for buying blue you abject moron. I think you are hypocrite for saying you are against the rebrand totally but then buying rebrand merchandise. Jules (LutonBluebird) buys rebrand merchandise, im yet to here him moan about the rebrand or how he hates Tan and so on or pick at others. Therein lies the difference.

If Jules buys the rebrand merchandise and then says 'he hates the rebrand and wants Tan out' then yes hes a hypocrite but i've yet to hear him say anything of the sort whereas you have blasted Tan and the rebrand at any attempt. Dont lie because you know you have.

Okay then, I'll set the record straight for you Barnett.

I hate the red and I can't accept the change of colour.
I don't like the badge but I can accept that badges change.
I'm thankful for Tan's investment but I can't forgive him for changing our club colour from blue to red.

Whether that means "I'm against the rebrand" or not, it's up to you, but I certainly don't "accept" it totally.

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i came on here to hopefully see pics and stuff of the new away kit and all i got was another thread full of arguments, abuse and people trying to prove themselves to each other. get over it lads.

Jon started ridiculing us by name so of course I would respond. I wish he hadnt as I try to stay away from rebrand stuff now.

Okay then, I'll set the record straight for you Barnett.

I hate the red and I can't accept the change of colour.
I don't like the badge but I can accept that badges change.
I'm thankful for Tan's investment but I can't forgive him for changing our club colour from blue to red.

Whether that means "I'm against the rebrand" or not, it's up to you.

You might claim to be against it Jon but you are still supporting it and thats the point. Thus contradicting your claimed views with your actions. Actions speak louder than words. Why not just wear the old blue kit until the rebrand is done away with? Okay, you said before you buy the blue kit every year but the blue kit this year is different for it is part of Tans rebrand.

I'll admit that i'll buy the yellow kit but I also admit im supporting Tan and his rebrand by doing so. Thats a decision I have to live with.

i came on here to hopefully see pics and stuff of the new away kit and all i got was another thread full of arguments, abuse and people trying to prove themselves to each other. get over it lads.

Jon started ridiculing us by name so of course I would respond. I wish he hadnt as I try to stay away from rebrand stuff now.

Craig, you are 100% correct but the hypocritical Mr Rebrand has dug himself into a hole he cannot climb out of and is now clutching at straws in an attempt to 'justify' his increasingly embarrassing posts

Quote (from JonCCFC): "Can you at least show SOME understanding of my logic?"

I would have far more understanding if he (Mr Rebrand) coveted the badge at least as much (if not more) than the colour but he clearly states he doesn't; preferring instead to 'choose' the parts of the rebrand that suit his personal but ill-thought out crusade

He tries to bring others into it by calling them hypocrites but as I see it they don't keep harping on about selected parts of the issue; they are simply either wholly against the red (shirt and badge) or they reluctantly (in most cases) accept that he club have simply moved on and are now reaping the benefits (if a successful club and achieving the Premier League dream are your thing)

Personally, I would 100% vote for blue IF it were ever to be offered democratically but it isn't and won't be until (at the earliest) Tan leaves and I sincerely hope that is a long time coming, as I believe he has a 'plan' for our beloved club and I would like to see it come to fruition

The problem with JonCCFC (aka Mr Rebrand) is that he cannot see the wood for the trees and is so entrenched he has forgotten what is most important, i.e. the successful future of Cardiff City FC itself

It's a crying shame but you just can't help some people, eh?