' Good News thread '

Chucks you are right when you talk about the fans who give up their season tickets, but to everyone else other issues like I have mentioned above are still important

Corkys right tan loves the exposure City in the premier gives him.the publicity is priceless.

Ian...,I don't see it over riding all others to be honest...it is a very important issue and a devisive one that has caused hurt to many of our fans but it cannot over ride the facts

We did not go into administration
We did not go into liquidation
We did pay the taxes
We did pay the players
We did pay many creditors
We did sign some quality players
We improved the academy set up
We got promoted after fifty odd years
We sold record season tickets for two seasons running
We are increasing capacity at stadium
We are extending the stadium in the near future
We are about to start a state of the art training facility that will eventually get us elite academy status along with the two house of sports
We have had less banning orders and arrests last season than we have had for many years
We are sure to sign at least six new first team players before September for millions
Historical debt is apparently near to a resolution but I have no evidence of this



They are just some of the other issues that are can not simple be over ridden by one issue

Real blue reality

You mention people with agendas possibly there are some but what are their motives? I would suggest there is still a fear that the mysterious Vincent Tan,who really has all the power, could still f**k us up.....it makes little sense to me why he would do hat now but it's still a fear when one man has total control....that is a huge issue that really does over ride all others but its the same at Chelsea and other clubs we are not unique .

My view is he will keep building the club and turn it into a saleable asset that he can offload at a profit whilst in the meanwhile use it to promote his huge business interests both here in the UK but more importantly raising his profile in Asia...but that is just my opinion and I respect other opinions too....we are all different mate.

Thats an excellent post corky. We all understand people's gripes with the rebrand and I am far from comfortable with myself, but it irks me that people consistently try to undermine all the positives that are taking place because they hate the rebrand

Refreshing Corky, best post I have read all summer, all this crap on here lately I am afraid has taken the shine of what should have been a once in a lifetime build up to the new season, what ever your thoughts don't fester just sit back and enjoy what lies ahead.

Apart from the re brand you have to admit that things are going well for the club and there are exciting developments on the way...quality new players,extra seating,stadium expansion, big screens, training ground Langston debt sorted...,all promised and I fully expect to happen in the near future..,,it's also exciting that the players we are being linked with are quality that we could only dream about back in the nineties....when I stared watching the club we were trying to get in to the top league with players like Toshack and Clarke and crowds similar to today's but all that was then washed away with years of struggle only intervened by a few good seasons yet we all look back at them days as good times....to be honest they were in many ways and the fact we struggled so hard for so many years makes it all the sweeter to finally get there now....can't wait for the fixtures to come out and I am really looking forward to the first pre season game...lets not make it a re brand thread just a positive thread about the club.

Agree. Most in the mid nineties never dreamed of supporting Cardiff City.

They actually complain about change when they have no right too.

Refreshing Corky, best post I have read all summer, all this crap on here lately I am afraid has taken the shine of what should have been a once in a lifetime build up to the new season, what ever your thoughts don't fester just sit back and enjoy what lies ahead.

well said,we are where we are lets enjoy it god knows we've waited long enough.

Chucks you are right when you talk about the fans who give up their season tickets, but to everyone else other issues like I have mentioned above are still important

Not just those who gave up their season tickets.. Please don't try and talk for everyone, just yourself.

I don't see it over riding all others to be honest...

That's fine, but many people do.

Please dont try and talk for everyone, just yourself.

I don't see it over riding all others to be honest...

That's fine, but many people do.

Please dont try and talk for everyone, just yourself.

Thought you had me blocked?! knew you couldn't resist me !

I'm not talking for everyone, it's quite clear from the posts on here that my feelings are shared by many members..

The poster I commented on said that those who didn't get a refund value the other things more importantly is trying to speak on everyone's behalf & that's not true.

Both you and Corky have done the same thing. Yet, you accuse him of trying to speak for everyone while you, apparently are not. Typical chuckles rubbish.

Whats good for the goose and all that.

Both you and Corky have done the same thing. Yet, you accuse him of trying to speak for everyone while you, apparently are not. Typical chuckles rubbish.

Whats good for the goose and all that.

Thanks for unblocking me.. Knew you couldn't resist my posts.

Ie not spoken for everyone. I've merely stated that there are many people who feel the same way on the message board.

The other poster grouped together a group of supporters and spoke about their opinions, without any I for it on to back this up.

My point being that myself & people I know fall into the mentioned bracket & don't feel the same way that the poster said we did.

Simple to understand, even for you Craig.

The good thing is chucks, most people on here see you for what you are (im referring to your internet persona) and the rest are slowly catching on.

Where have I spoken for everyone? I have just put my opinion forward that the ones that no longer follow the club because of the re brand are backing up their view that the rebrand has over ridden every other issue and fair play to them for that..others still hold the rebrand has the most important issue but still follow the club and care about other things that are CCFC related .

No one can speak for everyone just make points based on what they see the situation to be.

Ian...,I don't see it over riding all others to be honest...it is a very important issue and a devisive one that has caused hurt to many of our fans but it cannot over ride the facts

We did not go into administration
We did not go into liquidation
We did pay the taxes
We did pay the players
We did pay many creditors
We did sign some quality players
We improved the academy set up
We got promoted after fifty odd years
We sold record season tickets for two seasons running
We are increasing capacity at stadium
We are extending the stadium in the near future
We are about to start a state of the art training facility that will eventually get us elite academy status along with the two house of sports
We have had less banning orders and arrests last season than we have had for many years
We are sure to sign at least six new first team players before September for millions
Historical debt is apparently near to a resolution but I have no evidence of this



They are just some of the other issues that are can not simple be over ridden by one issue

Real blue reality

You mention people with agendas possibly there are some but what are their motives? I would suggest there is still a fear that the mysterious Vincent Tan,who really has all the power, could still f**k us up.....it makes little sense to me why he would do hat now but it's still a fear when one man has total control....that is a huge issue that really does over ride all others but its the same at Chelsea and other clubs we are not unique .

My view is he will keep building the club and turn it into a saleable asset that he can offload at a profit whilst in the meanwhile use it to promote his huge business interests both here in the UK but more importantly raising his profile in Asia...but that is just my opinion and I respect other opinions too....we are all different mate.

I want Cardiff City in the premier NOT the premier in Cardiff.

I want Cardiff City to be seen by the world NOT a franchise of Malaysia for one man to raise his profile.

I want all Cardiff City fans to see this is what could happen. If Cardiff City fans accept that is the way they want the club to go then that will be me finished with the club and fans.

I agree with you about one man having all the power. Most clubs have been fortunate where we have not. Corky you can go one about how far we have come but ask yourself where is it taking us.

Ian I also want the ideal scenario you describe but have no idea how we can achieve it, i wish I had a few hundred million available to buy the club so if you can tell me how we could have repelled Tan and still been able to function please let me know...I am not having a go at you, Barry Chuckles or anyone else...you have very strong views and hate everything about the rebrand the message boards are your ways of showing this but I just wanted a thread of good news about the club that's all

Ian I also want the ideal scenario you describe but have no idea how we can achieve it, i wish I had a few hundred million available to buy the club so if you can tell me how we could have repelled Tan and still been able to function please let me know...I am not having a go at you, Barry Chuckles or anyone else...you have very strong views and hate everything about the rebrand the message boards are your ways of showing this but I just wanted a thread of good news about the club that's all

in a nutshell corky
no one has been able to come up with any credible reason or financial plan that would have been able for us to turn down tans money and rebranding of the club.
i have heard the same old arguments about somebody would have bought us etc etc but its simply not true we were dead in the water 3 years ago if the malaysians had not come to the club.
for every vocal rather be blue in division two fan there are fifty silent fans who accept the rebrand to see the club where it is now.
football changes constantly and no one can put a timescale on if and when we return to blue.
i wonder if pompey fans would have accepted being rebranded to stay in the premier league because who would have thought after playing them in the cup final 5 years later on the night we got promoted to the premier league they would drop into league two.
thats a huge change in 5 years and who is to say we might not have returned to blue in another 5 years

The good thing is chucks, most people on here see you for what you are (im referring to your internet persona) and the rest are slowly catching on.

At least people know Corky for who he is and I am sure the vast majority would agree what a stand up guy he is.

Disclaimer: I was careful not to say everyone I dont want to be accused of speaking on behalf of everyonelse.

Ian I also want the ideal scenario you describe but have no idea how we can achieve it, i wish I had a few hundred million available to buy the club so if you can tell me how we could have repelled Tan and still been able to function please let me know...I am not having a go at you, Barry Chuckles or anyone else...you have very strong views and hate everything about the rebrand the message boards are your ways of showing this but I just wanted a thread of good news about the club that's all

As I said earlier Paul I consider this making the best of a bad job.

As far as I'm concerned we are stuck with red until Tan goes. I do fear we will still be stuck with the colour if a new owner comes in. The only way I see blue having any chance is an organised opposition to it in the hope that a new owner returns us to our traditional colours. While there is this opposition I will have faith.

Ian I also want the ideal scenario you describe but have no idea how we can achieve it, i wish I had a few hundred million available to buy the club so if you can tell me how we could have repelled Tan and still been able to function please let me know...I am not having a go at you, Barry Chuckles or anyone else...you have very strong views and hate everything about the rebrand the message boards are your ways of showing this but I just wanted a thread of good news about the club that's all

in a nutshell corky
no one has been able to come up with any credible reason or financial plan that would have been able for us to turn down tans money and rebranding of the club.
i have heard the same old arguments about somebody would have bought us etc etc but its simply not true we were dead in the water 3 years ago if the malaysians had not come to the club.
for every vocal rather be blue in division two fan there are fifty silent fans who accept the rebrand to see the club where it is now.
football changes constantly and no one can put a timescale on if and when we return to blue.
i wonder if pompey fans would have accepted being rebranded to stay in the premier league because who would have thought after playing them in the cup final 5 years later on the night we got promoted to the premier league they would drop into league two.
thats a huge change in 5 years and who is to say we might not have returned to blue in another 5 years

i take where we are to where Pompey are any day of the week.

Where have I spoken for everyone? I have just put my opinion forward that the ones that no longer follow the club because of the re brand are backing up their view that the rebrand has over ridden every other issue and fair play to them for that..others still hold the rebrand has the most important issue but still follow the club and care about other things that are CCFC related .

No one can speak for everyone just make points based on what they see the situation to be.

Spot on Corky

I cant stand the rebrand but cant argue with the rest of the positives.

its a very complex situation.

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Well that is it Ian we need to stay united together and not at each others throats...walking away is giving up but it is so unfair to say that because those people have far stronger principles than I have...I am like a sheep in comparison putting up with things so the club can not just keep going but also be successful...it would be great if we could have our cake and fecking eat it

I've been a Cardiff City fan since 1968/69 season and in all that time there has always been doom & gloom merchants. Those who don't go to matches have always made the most noise, nothing changes.

Armchair fans know it all.

Ian...,I don't see it over riding all others to be honest...it is a very important issue and a devisive one that has caused hurt to many of our fans but it cannot over ride the facts

We did not go into administration
We did not go into liquidation
We did pay the taxes
We did pay the players
We did pay many creditors
We did sign some quality players
We improved the academy set up
We got promoted after fifty odd years
We sold record season tickets for two seasons running
We are increasing capacity at stadium
We are extending the stadium in the near future
We are about to start a state of the art training facility that will eventually get us elite academy status along with the two house of sports
We have had less banning orders and arrests last season than we have had for many years
We are sure to sign at least six new first team players before September for millions
Historical debt is apparently near to a resolution but I have no evidence of this



They are just some of the other issues that are can not simple be over ridden by one issue

Real blue reality

You mention people with agendas possibly there are some but what are their motives? I would suggest there is still a fear that the mysterious Vincent Tan,who really has all the power, could still f**k us up.....it makes little sense to me why he would do hat now but it's still a fear when one man has total control....that is a huge issue that really does over ride all others but its the same at Chelsea and other clubs we are not unique .

My view is he will keep building the club and turn it into a saleable asset that he can offload at a profit whilst in the meanwhile use it to promote his huge business interests both here in the UK but more importantly raising his profile in Asia...but that is just my opinion and I respect other opinions too....we are all different mate.

Corky there's no point in going over the legitamacy of 'red or dead', we all know where we stand and how much of Cardiff's heritage we were willing to dismiss off the back of 'fear' tactics. It's good to see you acknowledge there are people with agendas whose motives you don't really know.

The point i objected to was the use of language to create a certain picture/mindset in the reader, you're guilty of it in the post above. The word 'fear' pops up quite a lot along with an almost mythycal 'non human' portrayal of Vincent Tan. It's as if you're sat around a camp fire trying to scare the shit out of us with a scary story about the boogeyman . Strangely this tactic has worked for a few people at the club for a year, but is Vincent Tan really that immune to common sense?

Vincent Tan does have common sense.

He rebranded the club. Attendances stayed the same, then we broke records at the end of last season. The merchandise is selling well.

If attendances were to drop by 25% then he would revert back to blue.

All talk no action is probably what he thinks of all the blue groups popping up. The only real way to get back blue is boycotting games. Only a handful have the desire for that and much respect goes to them.

Vincent Tan does have common sense.

He rebranded the club. Attendances stayed the same, then we broke records at the end of last season. The merchandise is selling well.

If attendances were to drop by 25% then he would revert back to blue.

All talk no action is probably what he thinks of all the blue groups popping up. The only real way to get back blue is boycotting games. Only a handful have the desire for that and much respect goes to them.

Craig I'm not even sure it would take a boycott, i think he would respect any display of fan unity, which is why i'm fully behind what BU are doing. I just think it's time for an end to all this nonesense about Vincent Tan being a mysterious boogeyman who can not be dealt with or reasoned with.

Real blue really II am fed up of talking to a pseudonym ...i know most of the people in this thread but you could be anyone ...you are totally off the mark, you don't know me or you would know I don't want to put fear into anyone it's a message board for opinions and I put mine the use of language when written is different to that when used in conversation and only the best writers in the land have the ability to put into words what they mean in a way that everyone can understand....by the way if there is not a fear factor involved when one man holds all the bullets then I don't know when there is....we should all be fearful but at the same time hopeful that he club will be a saleable asset when he has had enough of it and the more infra structure that is created then the more that becomes a reality.

Thanks to the fans Who accepted this as a positive thread, that is all it was meant to be...reality blue or whoever you are start your own thread if you want to instead if nitpicking on this one.

Real blue really II am fed up of talking to a pseudonym ...i know most of the people in this thread but you could be anyone ...you are totally off the mark, you don't know me or you would know I don't want to put fear into anyone it's a message board for opinions and I put mine the use of language when written is different to that when used in conversation and only the best writers in the land have the ability to put into words what they mean in a way that everyone can understand....by the way if there is not a fear factor involved when one man holds all the bullets then I don't know when there is....we should all be fearful but at the same time hopeful that he club will be a saleable asset when he has had enough of it and the more infra structure that is created then the more that becomes a reality.

Thanks to the fans Who accepted this as a positive thread, that is all it was meant to be...reality blue or whoever you are start your own thread if you want to instead if nitpicking on this one.

Fair enough Quirky i consider myself dismissed from your thread


But i would say that comparing Tans regime and subsequent setup with Chelsea, means you are giving Tan and the red a legitamacy he doesn't deserve in a millions years.

Cheers mate just trying to enjoy promotion again ...since the end of the season there has been a lot of understandable threads relating to the dreaded unwanted rebrand and we need a break sometimes and to do that we need to look at the big picture without totally forgetting what the cost was.

Ian...,I don't see it over riding all others to be honest...it is a very important issue and a devisive one that has caused hurt to many of our fans but it cannot over ride the facts

We did not go into administration
We did not go into liquidation
We did pay the taxes
We did pay the players
We did pay many creditors
We did sign some quality players
We improved the academy set up
We got promoted after fifty odd years
We sold record season tickets for two seasons running
We are increasing capacity at stadium
We are extending the stadium in the near future
We are about to start a state of the art training facility that will eventually get us elite academy status along with the two house of sports
We have had less banning orders and arrests last season than we have had for many years
We are sure to sign at least six new first team players before September for millions
Historical debt is apparently near to a resolution but I have no evidence of this



They are just some of the other issues that are can not simple be over ridden by one issue

Real blue reality

You mention people with agendas possibly there are some but what are their motives? I would suggest there is still a fear that the mysterious Vincent Tan,who really has all the power, could still f**k us up.....it makes little sense to me why he would do hat now but it's still a fear when one man has total control....that is a huge issue that really does over ride all others but its the same at Chelsea and other clubs we are not unique .

My view is he will keep building the club and turn it into a saleable asset that he can offload at a profit whilst in the meanwhile use it to promote his huge business interests both here in the UK but more importantly raising his profile in Asia...but that is just my opinion and I respect other opinions too....we are all different mate.

Corky there's no point in going over the legitamacy of 'red or dead', we all know where we stand and how much of Cardiff's heritage we were willing to dismiss off the back of 'fear' tactics. It's good to see you acknowledge there are people with agendas whose motives you don't really know.

The point i objected to was the use of language to create a certain picture/mindset in the reader, you're guilty of it in the post above. The word 'fear' pops up quite a lot along with an almost mythycal 'non human' portrayal of Vincent Tan. It's as if you're sat around a camp fire trying to scare the shit out of us with a scary story about the boogeyman . Strangely this tactic has worked for a few people at the club for a year, but is Vincent Tan really that immune to common sense?

Sorry mate but don't see the validity of your argument at all. We will never truly know if it was red or dead last year but the reality is, it could have been and for many of us that was too much of a risk to take.

many remember even in rick wrights day the back page of the echo with a team photo with for sale written across it.

the fact is, we have NEVER been so secure as a club as we are currently and to that credit must go to Tan.

I will say though that if it wasn't red or dead last year it certainly was tan (and tg) or dead a few years ago whrn the riddler was at the helm. Now whether it's fear or gratitude as a motive for accepting a change of colour or even the contentment of being stable run club, it matters not as I see these all as legitimate reasons for giving tan some slack.

Vincent Tan does have common sense.

He rebranded the club. Attendances stayed the same, then we broke records at the end of last season. The merchandise is selling well.

If attendances were to drop by 25% then he would revert back to blue.

All talk no action is probably what he thinks of all the blue groups popping up. The only real way to get back blue is boycotting games. Only a handful have the desire for that and much respect goes to them.

The post of the thread nail on head. There were simply not enough fans with principles like TLG's and Co.