Fan's representation - The board going forward

I could never before see the club accepting a message board as an official organisation affiliated to the club to discuss any issues or concerns supporters may have especially on contentious issues but yet the club asked for representation of both message boards when it wished to rebrand the football club so maybe the club has set a precedent that it may find difficult to move away from should message board posters ask to be involved in regular dialogue.

Who's views were represented?

The 15 of whom were in attendance.

So they werent actually representing this messageboard then, otherwise all members would have been gauged for their views so a majority view could have been put forward.

I could never before see the club accepting a message board as an official organisation affiliated to the club to discuss any issues or concerns supporters may have especially on contentious issues but yet the club asked for representation of both message boards when it wished to rebrand the football club so maybe the club has set a precedent that it may find difficult to move away from should message board posters ask to be involved in regular dialogue.

Who's views were represented?

The 15 of whom were in attendance.

So they werent actually representing this messageboard then, otherwise all members would have been gauged for their views so a majority view could have been put forward.

at first i thought it could be a good idea but alarm bells are starting to ring.

I could never before see the club accepting a message board as an official organisation affiliated to the club to discuss any issues or concerns supporters may have especially on contentious issues but yet the club asked for representation of both message boards when it wished to rebrand the football club so maybe the club has set a precedent that it may find difficult to move away from should message board posters ask to be involved in regular dialogue.

Who's views were represented?

The 15 of whom were in attendance.

So they werent actually representing this messageboard then, otherwise all members would have been gauged for their views so a majority view could have been put forward.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

I could never before see the club accepting a message board as an official organisation affiliated to the club to discuss any issues or concerns supporters may have especially on contentious issues but yet the club asked for representation of both message boards when it wished to rebrand the football club so maybe the club has set a precedent that it may find difficult to move away from should message board posters ask to be involved in regular dialogue.

Who's views were represented?

The 15 of whom were in attendance.

So they werent actually representing this messageboard then, otherwise all members would have been gauged for their views so a majority view could have been put forward.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

But Carl, When TLG aka Dave Sugarman asked Gwyn who he Represented he said himself with a big smile, what he meant was he Represented the Red and Wayne Nash.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

It was announced that there were representation of the Trust, Supporters club, message boards and Gwyn for himself.

I wasn't a member of this forum at the time, so how were the opinions of this messageboard gained? Was there a poll or a vote?

If there wasn't any sort of "official" opinion gathering of the members on here, then it didnt represent this message board, just the person who was attending.

Which is why I don't think this idea would work. If this forum was going to be recognised by the club as a source of fan's opinions, the members here would have to have their opinions collected, surely?

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

It was announced that there were representation of the Trust, Supporters club, message boards and Gwyn for himself.

But how could anybody represent this forum, when forum members wasn't asked who they would want to represent them nether lone what points to discuss

Good to see this forum getting representation. Every month there should be a thread where we can voice our opinions about the running of the club where they can be brought forward to the supporters trust.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

It was announced that there were representation of the Trust, Supporters club, message boards and Gwyn for himself.

But how could anybody represent this forum, when forum members wasn't asked who they would want to represent them nether lone what points to discuss

Exactly. All I see is individual fans representing themselves.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

It was announced that there were representation of the Trust, Supporters club, message boards and Gwyn for himself.

But how could anybody represent this forum, when forum members wasn't asked who they would want to represent them nether lone what points to discuss

Exactly. All I see is individual fans representing themselves.

Would you like to do this democratically and vote?

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

Lets be honest and clear it should read "The Club considered the 15 who were invited as fans"

Bridgend Bluebird, how can the views of a group of fans (this forum) be represented , if the views are not gathered by the forum?

For example, if there were to be a representative, then opinions would have to be gathered.. This could either be done democratically, like you said.. By votes.. Or it could be an official thread eg.

THREAD FOR FANS TO POST OPINIONS ON REBRAND (an example)

Where all members who want to have their view aired post. It's moderated so that posts are respectful & pleasant & is then printed out and presented to the club officials.

If a member went along and just spoke (without gathering information) they would be just speaking for themselves..

Eg. If I went to a meeting representing this forum, what I personally think & the majority on this forum think could be very different.. Giving my own view then would not be representing this message board.

Bridgend Bluebird, how can the views of a group of fans (this forum) be represented , if the views are not gathered by the forum?

For example, if there were to be a representative, then opinions would have to be gathered.. This could either be done democratically, like you said.. By votes.. Or it could be an official thread eg.

THREAD FOR FANS TO POST OPINIONS ON REBRAND (an example)

Where all members who want to have their view aired post. It's moderated so that posts are respectful & pleasant & is then printed out and presented to the club officials.

If a member went along and just spoke (without gathering information) they would be just speaking for themselves..

Eg. If I went to a meeting representing this forum, what I personally think & the majority on this forum think could be very different.. Giving my own view then would not be representing this message board.

Well, like I said in my first post, a thread should be made every month regarding the running of the club, so we as fans can have our say. Thus, the representitive, could air our views to the supporters trust whether he agrees with them or not.

That would be good.

Bridgend Bluebird, how can the views of a group of fans (this forum) be represented , if the views are not gathered by the forum?

For example, if there were to be a representative, then opinions would have to be gathered.. This could either be done democratically, like you said.. By votes.. Or it could be an official thread eg.

THREAD FOR FANS TO POST OPINIONS ON REBRAND (an example)

Where all members who want to have their view aired post. It's moderated so that posts are respectful & pleasant & is then printed out and presented to the club officials.

If a member went along and just spoke (without gathering information) they would be just speaking for themselves..

Eg. If I went to a meeting representing this forum, what I personally think & the majority on this forum think could be very different.. Giving my own view then would not be representing this message board.

Spot on Chuckles i couldn't agree more

Bridgend Bluebird, how can the views of a group of fans (this forum) be represented , if the views are not gathered by the forum?

For example, if there were to be a representative, then opinions would have to be gathered.. This could either be done democratically, like you said.. By votes.. Or it could be an official thread eg.

THREAD FOR FANS TO POST OPINIONS ON REBRAND (an example)

Where all members who want to have their view aired post. It's moderated so that posts are respectful & pleasant & is then printed out and presented to the club officials.

If a member went along and just spoke (without gathering information) they would be just speaking for themselves..

Eg. If I went to a meeting representing this forum, what I personally think & the majority on this forum think could be very different.. Giving my own view then would not be representing this message board.

Spot on Chuckles i couldn't agree more

It's common sense really. If it isn't done in such a manner, it's just another glorified "inner circle".

That would be good.

I'm guessing, and hoping , you referring to me reply to your post. If it is the case, my post about having a vote wasn't supposed to be sarcastic if it came across as such.

That would be good.

I'm guessing, and hoping , you referring to me reply to your post. If it is the case, my post about having a vote wasn't supposed to be sarcastic if it came across as such.

I didn't read it in a sarcastic way mate!

Yes, I was referring to your post & if implemented, would be a good step forward.

That would be good.

I'm guessing, and hoping , you referring to me reply to your post. If it is the case, my post about having a vote wasn't supposed to be sarcastic if it came across as such.

I didn't read it in a sarcastic way mate!

Yes, I was referring to your post & if implemented, would be a good step forward.

Just making sure because its hard to tell over the Internet. I could tell swansealad he's clever sarcastically but none would be the wiser.

Bridgend Bluebird, how can the views of a group of fans (this forum) be represented , if the views are not gathered by the forum?

For example, if there were to be a representative, then opinions would have to be gathered.. This could either be done democratically, like you said.. By votes.. Or it could be an official thread eg.

THREAD FOR FANS TO POST OPINIONS ON REBRAND (an example)

Where all members who want to have their view aired post. It's moderated so that posts are respectful & pleasant & is then printed out and presented to the club officials.

If a member went along and just spoke (without gathering information) they would be just speaking for themselves..

Eg. If I went to a meeting representing this forum, what I personally think & the majority on this forum think could be very different.. Giving my own view then would not be representing this message board.

Spot on Chuckles i couldn't agree more

It's common sense really. If it isn't done in such a manner, it's just another glorified "inner circle".

Yes it is a shock we agree on something , but I don't want anybody speaking on my behalf if I haven't asked them to, and it looks like you feel the same

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you!

Where exactly did I claim I (or the others who attended) were representing the message board ?

Now if you read the post correctly, which you seem incapable of doing so I guess I have to spell it out for you, club officials asked 15 people to attend a meeting whom club officials deemed as fans representatives.

Representatives of the supporters club, supporters trust, travel group, Cardiff city forum and CCMB.

I answered Craigccfc that those in attendance were representing the views of the 15 invitees, I did not claim the 15 were representing any other persons, did I?

And relating to Craig's post, he wrote "So they werent actually representing this messageboard then, otherwise all members would have been gauged for their views so a majority view could have been put forward."

I have a question for you Chuckles considering you are so keen to back Craig's opinion up, how could anybody from this message board or any other organisation have gauged the views of their members regarding the rebrand BEFORE going into a meeting to be told of the rebrand?

Maybe I should ask you Chuckles for your opinion on the 3rd alternative City kit for the 2034/35 season so I can pass on your comments before I possibly attend a meeting with club officials regarding something I have not seen and don't know anything about but what will it hurt at least if it is shit and you don't like it, at least I put forward your concerns.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

Fail, oops.

Must try harder.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

Fail, oops.

Must try harder.

Jesus wept Carl.

You can't make mistakes when you want to argue with Chuckles.

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

Fail, oops.

Must try harder.

Jesus wept Carl.

You can't make mistakes when you want to argue with Chuckles.

No mistake on my part.

The mistake was very much in his head

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

Fail, oops.

Must try harder.

Jesus wept Carl.

You can't make mistakes when you want to argue with Chuckles.

No mistake on my part.

The mistake was very much in his head

Source or common info?

but yet the club asked for representation of both message boards

How were the members view collected? In what form were these representations brought forward to the club officials?

Or did it not happen?

The club considered the 15 who were invited as fans reprensentatives.

So as Craig said then, not representing this messageboard - which is what you claimed.

Fail, oops.

Must try harder.

Jesus wept Carl.

You can't make mistakes when you want to argue with Chuckles.

No mistake on my part.

The mistake was very much in his head

Source or common info?

He will never admit he got it wrong though

Where exactly did I claim I (or the others who attended) were representing the message board ?

Where did I say it was that meeting? maybe it's you that needs to read posts carefully before you respond... Maybe that's why so many of your updates are totally incorrect.

He will never admit he got it wrong though

Funny that. Coming from a person who has made so many mistakes with his "updates" & either deleting them totally or hiding behind some excuse.