EDL members clash with police video

Grow up, learn to read.

Might I suggest learning to write, you have written incoherent drivel. You have effectively stated that just because a group beheads people doesn't define them as extreme, I disagree

Laughable. What Craig said was that the beheadings of a group is not what gets them labeled extreme. Its their political beliefs and where they fall on the political spectrum. The EDL on the political spectrum are extreme because they fall far right.

A group can still be extreme without carrying out beheadings. If a group was lying in the center of the political spectrum and carried out beheadings it would not politically be labeled an extremist group.

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

not really the EDL organise everything over social media its very easy to obtain intelligence on them. Terrorist cells will try and stay in the dark for as long as possible making investigations and intelligence gathering very difficult

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

Here f*cking here oldchap, the old guard would be spinning in there graves at yesterdays shocking news, looking down on what this once great country has become

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

not really the EDL organise everything over social media its very easy to obtain intelligence on them. Terrorist cells will try and stay in the dark for as long as possible making investigations and intelligence gathering very difficult

Oh well that debunks his statement then, jonny the underworld terrorist now, i see your missing the point in whats been said in the quote which does not supprise me one bit that you dodged around it rather than address what he put

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Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

not really the EDL organise everything over social media its very easy to obtain intelligence on them. Terrorist cells will try and stay in the dark for as long as possible making investigations and intelligence gathering very difficult

I am not talking about terrorists like the those men yesterday. I am talking about organised events by muslim extremists on the internet, just like the EDL. They target the funerals of our armed forces and take to the streets spouting hatred. The police protect them to be seen as politically correct.

Next time they meet up, round them all up and fling them in a special prison.

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

not really the EDL organise everything over social media its very easy to obtain intelligence on them. Terrorist cells will try and stay in the dark for as long as possible making investigations and intelligence gathering very difficult

I am not talking about terrorists like the those men yesterday. I am talking about organised events by muslim extremists on the internet, just like the EDL. They target the funerals of our armed forces and take to the streets spouting hatred. The police protect them to be seen as politically correct.

Next time they meet up, round them all up and fling them in a special prison.

Or better still why not have police there to run them down side streets when there hurling abuse over and over or does that only apply for other groups of extremists hmmmmmmmmmmm I guess so.

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

not really the EDL organise everything over social media its very easy to obtain intelligence on them. Terrorist cells will try and stay in the dark for as long as possible making investigations and intelligence gathering very difficult

I am not talking about terrorists like the those men yesterday. I am talking about organised events by muslim extremists on the internet, just like the EDL. They target the funerals of our armed forces and take to the streets spouting hatred. The police protect them to be seen as politically correct.

Next time they meet up, round them all up and fling them in a special prison.

you cant prevent peaceful demonstrations its your right to protest, whatever they shout if they are peaceful they are not breaking the law. Im not saying every muslim protest is peaceful some will be some wont be. Most EDL protests involve heavy drinking and violence is it really that surprising that their protests have to broken up more regularly

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

Blame EU legislation and the pussy footing government for that. The police cant do much, they're doing a job with their hands tied in some respects. Its really sad but its the truth. The sooner we're out of the EU and can deport criminals the better.

So shouting death to all "Kafirs" (The name they give to us non-believers) and signs saying behead those who disrespect the prophet is a peaceful demonstration? Chanting murdering scum and terrorists at our fallen soldiers and burning poppies is peaceful behavior?

Stop defending them, it is your wishy washy attitude that's f*cking this country right up.

[/quote] Extremism is politically/religiously motivated by definition. Those men beheaded that soldier in a politically motivated attack therefore they are extremists.
The EDL march using a far right political angle, therefore they are extremists.

Terry Sutcliffe (the yorkshire ripper) just killed women with NO POLITICAL AGENDA therefore he is not an extremist. Just a loony.[/quote]
Now we are getting somewhere Craig, you did state Extremist "group" suggesting a collection of people with the same interests. Comparing the EDL (BTW i think they are a bunch of morons) with the perps from yesterday is to massivly over simplify this as a "black & white" issue of them both being euqally as extreme as one another. This is like saying that a bar brawl is the same as premeditated murder

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

Blame EU legislation and the pussy footing government for that. The police cant do much, they're doing a job with their hands tied in some respects. Its really sad but its the truth. The sooner we're out of the EU and can deport criminals the better.

Not so much their hands are tied but the simple fear of being branded a racist, bigot or Islamophobe is usually enough for them to stop excercising the laws they are given to implement

So shouting death to all "Kafirs" (The name they give to us non-believers) and signs saying behead those who disrespect the prophet is a peaceful demonstration? Chanting murdering scum and terrorists at our fallen soldiers and burning poppies is peaceful behavior?

Stop defending them, it is your wishy washy attitude that's f*cking this country right up.

under the letter of the law a peaceful demonstration is guided by the lack of physical violence, what comes out of your mouth is freedom of expression, I dont agree with what they say but I do believe in the principles this country is founded on and freedom of expression is a big principle. If you want to shut their mouths you let them win because you are supporting the restraints they want implemented in this country.

So shouting death to all "Kafirs" (The name they give to us non-believers) and signs saying behead those who disrespect the prophet is a peaceful demonstration? Chanting murdering scum and terrorists at our fallen soldiers and burning poppies is peaceful behavior?

Stop defending them, it is your wishy washy attitude that's f*cking this country right up.

under the letter of the law a peaceful demonstration is guided by the lack of physical violence, what comes out of your mouth is freedom of expression, I dont agree with what they say but I do believe in the principles this country is founded on and freedom of expression is a big principle. If you want to shut their mouths you let them win because you are supporting the restraints they want implemented in this country.

Too soft. If it was a group of peadophiles walking down the street shouting "No age of consent" and other rubbish you wouldn't take this attitude.

there's going to be a racial war

So shouting death to all "Kafirs" (The name they give to us non-believers) and signs saying behead those who disrespect the prophet is a peaceful demonstration? Chanting murdering scum and terrorists at our fallen soldiers and burning poppies is peaceful behavior?

Stop defending them, it is your wishy washy attitude that's f*cking this country right up.

under the letter of the law a peaceful demonstration is guided by the lack of physical violence, what comes out of your mouth is freedom of expression, I dont agree with what they say but I do believe in the principles this country is founded on and freedom of expression is a big principle. If you want to shut their mouths you let them win because you are supporting the restraints they want implemented in this country.

Too soft. If it was a group of peadophiles walking down the street shouting "No age of consent" and other rubbish you wouldn't take this attitude.

its still down to freedom of expression. If a group of pedophiles could muster political support to eliminate the age of consent they would have and do have a right to voice their opinion. It wasnt that long ago that being gay was illegal a lot of political demonstrations and lobbying changed that. Now if we were to take your hard approach, being gay would probably still be illegal.

So shouting death to all "Kafirs" (The name they give to us non-believers) and signs saying behead those who disrespect the prophet is a peaceful demonstration? Chanting murdering scum and terrorists at our fallen soldiers and burning poppies is peaceful behavior?

Stop defending them, it is your wishy washy attitude that's f*cking this country right up.

under the letter of the law a peaceful demonstration is guided by the lack of physical violence, what comes out of your mouth is freedom of expression, I dont agree with what they say but I do believe in the principles this country is founded on and freedom of expression is a big principle. If you want to shut their mouths you let them win because you are supporting the restraints they want implemented in this country.

Too soft. If it was a group of peadophiles walking down the street shouting "No age of consent" and other rubbish you wouldn't take this attitude.

its still down to freedom of expression. If a group of pedophiles could muster political support to eliminate the age of consent they would have and do have a right to voice their opinion. It wasnt that long ago that being gay was illegal a lot of political demonstrations and lobbying changed that. Now if we were to take your hard approach, being gay would probably still be illegal.

Feel we have gone way off topic. The problem is that peadophiles or muslim extremists do not have political support of any kind so giving them a voice is ridiculous. Gays did have political support and thus it became the norm.

I shall leave this to the oldman my fingers are sore all this typing

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

not really the EDL organise everything over social media its very easy to obtain intelligence on them. Terrorist cells will try and stay in the dark for as long as possible making investigations and intelligence gathering very difficult

I am not talking about terrorists like the those men yesterday. I am talking about organised events by muslim extremists on the internet, just like the EDL. They target the funerals of our armed forces and take to the streets spouting hatred. The police protect them to be seen as politically correct.

Next time they meet up, round them all up and fling them in a special prison.

A special prison where they are made to work and treat other people, especially women with respect.

So shouting death to all "Kafirs" (The name they give to us non-believers) and signs saying behead those who disrespect the prophet is a peaceful demonstration? Chanting murdering scum and terrorists at our fallen soldiers and burning poppies is peaceful behavior?

Stop defending them, it is your wishy washy attitude that's f*cking this country right up.

under the letter of the law a peaceful demonstration is guided by the lack of physical violence, what comes out of your mouth is freedom of expression, I dont agree with what they say but I do believe in the principles this country is founded on and freedom of expression is a big principle. If you want to shut their mouths you let them win because you are supporting the restraints they want implemented in this country.

Too soft. If it was a group of peadophiles walking down the street shouting "No age of consent" and other rubbish you wouldn't take this attitude.

its still down to freedom of expression. If a group of pedophiles could muster political support to eliminate the age of consent they would have and do have a right to voice their opinion. It wasnt that long ago that being gay was illegal a lot of political demonstrations and lobbying changed that. Now if we were to take your hard approach, being gay would probably still be illegal.

Feel we have gone way off topic. The problem is that peadophiles or muslim extremists do not have political support of any kind so giving them a voice is ridiculous. Gays did have political support and thus it became the norm.

not really we are very much on topic. gay rights were given political support which is why it is no longer illegal to be gay and the same sex marriage bill is being debated. Now I very much doubt that pedophiles would ever acquire enough support to get it recognised by parliament it wouldnt stop them from protesting though. Muslims asking for Shariah law wouldnt muster much support but it still doesnt stop them from protesting. These are civil rights that everyone in this country has. I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it, is probably one of the proudest sentence I can say, that the individual has a voice without fear of oppression or violence. Shariah law would eliminate that, your propsal that muslim protests should not be allowed would eliminate that.

Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!!

I THINK he's trying to make the point that in a democracy violence is abhorrent. These idiots of the EDL claim they support the armed forces ......yet the next minute they are throwing bottles etc at police.

Anyone with a brain know that these guys are just out for a bit of a punch up.

In fact they have a fair bit in common with their muslim "extremist" friends......they both support the concept of keeping their faces covered.

I completely understand your point but it would be nice to know excatly what he meant then as his comment read to me that he feels that two incidents where one human being was killed and in another incident no-one gets killed is the same..?

It's the same mind set.....ignorance and violence.

If the police were not in Woolwich last night do you think it would be reasonable to believe that these morons would of cornered some "paki ****" as they put it and attacked him?

When you get a mob mentality they could of given him a good kicking and indeed much worse.

We all agree that the attack in the street on that poor young man was disgusting...... these idiots from the EDL are cashing in and whipping up hatred and making things worse for the vast majority of muslims. In fact Muslims are not their enemy....it's anyone of a different colour/race etc.

Personally I believe the Muslim extremists and EDL should be arrested for racial hatred etc. There is no place in a decent society for either.

I don't agree that its the same mindset. Those EDL are just mouthy thugs but they don't even come close to the mindset of those two who murdered that poor man yesterday.

The point I am trying to make here is that violence has many different levels I guess.

so you are defending the EDL I rest my case. I dont believe I have anything to apologise for, I have never said that the death of this soldier is justifiable or acceptable neither do I think that the attack on police was justifiable and does raise the question of if the police were not there who would have they attacked?

Did the guys who killed this soldier do so under orders of a higher power or was it an individual act?These questions are yet to be answered and will come out during the investigation.

One thing that has been confirmed the EDL took to the streets under the orders Tommy Robinson and attacked the police where anything could have happened and thank God the police were there rather than this mob decending on an innocent group of people who may not follow Islam but as long as the shoe fits right?[/quote]

I knew you'd try and say that I'm defending the EDL when I have stated the complete opposite from the start!!!!

You are nothing but a kunt trying all avenues to defend your comments and yet I bet the messageboards owners will do f**k all!!![/quote]

but you are you are saying that the actions of this muslim is disgusting and should never be forgiven, I agree with you on that point but then you wave off the EDL as mouthy thugs. Well at one point muslim extremists were mouthy thugs theyve evolved into something more. Hitlers Brown shirts were shrugged off as mouth thugs they evolved into the waffen-ss and killed 6 million jews with views not far away from the EDL's views on Islam. Mouthy thugs are just as capable of killing someone as a muslim extremist is or the member of the IRA who have a long history of killing soldiers in this country or any other extreme group which have killed our troops and police officers in the name of a cause.

I could defend both actions on an academic level, im not going to because its not worth the trouble, but having studied just war theory and well versed in war ethics and being a veteran in this country I would say im more qualified to discuss and be annoyed by this issue than you are. So please dont call me a kunt because your just digging your own hole.[/quote]

The way you have dismissed the killing yesterday to the actions of the EDL last night is disgusting!!!

You can study asmuch as you like but the fact of the matter is that if you study of war ethics then surely its the viewpoint of the author which you are studying surely..?

The bottom line here is that you are trying to throw as much mud at me as possible to deflect away what you stated at first!!!

Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!!

I THINK he's trying to make the point that in a democracy violence is abhorrent. These idiots of the EDL claim they support the armed forces ......yet the next minute they are throwing bottles etc at police.

Anyone with a brain know that these guys are just out for a bit of a punch up.

In fact they have a fair bit in common with their muslim "extremist" friends......they both support the concept of keeping their faces covered.

I completely understand your point but it would be nice to know excatly what he meant then as his comment read to me that he feels that two incidents where one human being was killed and in another incident no-one gets killed is the same..?

It's the same mind set.....ignorance and violence.

If the police were not in Woolwich last night do you think it would be reasonable to believe that these morons would of cornered some "paki ****" as they put it and attacked him?

When you get a mob mentality they could of given him a good kicking and indeed much worse.

We all agree that the attack in the street on that poor young man was disgusting...... these idiots from the EDL are cashing in and whipping up hatred and making things worse for the vast majority of muslims. In fact Muslims are not their enemy....it's anyone of a different colour/race etc.

Personally I believe the Muslim extremists and EDL should be arrested for racial hatred etc. There is no place in a decent society for either.

I don't agree that its the same mindset. Those EDL are just mouthy thugs but they don't even come close to the mindset of those two who murdered that poor man yesterday.

The point I am trying to make here is that violence has many different levels I guess.

so you are defending the EDL I rest my case. I dont believe I have anything to apologise for, I have never said that the death of this soldier is justifiable or acceptable neither do I think that the attack on police was justifiable and does raise the question of if the police were not there who would have they attacked?

Did the guys who killed this soldier do so under orders of a higher power or was it an individual act?These questions are yet to be answered and will come out during the investigation.

One thing that has been confirmed the EDL took to the streets under the orders Tommy Robinson and attacked the police where anything could have happened and thank God the police were there rather than this mob decending on an innocent group of people who may not follow Islam but as long as the shoe fits right?[/quote]

I knew you'd try and say that I'm defending the EDL when I have stated the complete opposite from the start!!!!

You are nothing but a kunt trying all avenues to defend your comments and yet I bet the messageboards owners will do f**k all!!![/quote]

but you are you are saying that the actions of this muslim is disgusting and should never be forgiven, I agree with you on that point but then you wave off the EDL as mouthy thugs. Well at one point muslim extremists were mouthy thugs theyve evolved into something more. Hitlers Brown shirts were shrugged off as mouth thugs they evolved into the waffen-ss and killed 6 million jews with views not far away from the EDL's views on Islam. Mouthy thugs are just as capable of killing someone as a muslim extremist is or the member of the IRA who have a long history of killing soldiers in this country or any other extreme group which have killed our troops and police officers in the name of a cause.

I could defend both actions on an academic level, im not going to because its not worth the trouble, but having studied just war theory and well versed in war ethics and being a veteran in this country I would say im more qualified to discuss and be annoyed by this issue than you are. So please dont call me a kunt because your just digging your own hole.[/quote]

The way you have dismissed the killing yesterday to the actions of the EDL last night is disgusting!!!

You can study asmuch as you like but the fact of the matter is that if you study of war ethics then surely its the viewpoint of the author which you are studying surely..?

The bottom line here is that you are trying to throw as much mud at me as possible to deflect away what you stated at first!!![/quote]


You tell me where ive dismissed the killing that happened yesterday, how dare you say ive said that. Ive made a statement I stand by it that the attacks on soldiers and police I find equally disgusting regardless of the outcomes of those attacks whether people die or not.

Im not throwing mud at you at all youve attacked my statement from the start demanding apologies and how disgusting my views are. The only person throwing mud here is you, people have tried to explain my point to you from there understanding but you attack me regardless. That would be the bottom line. Simple fact is your not concerned with what I say you more concerned with the fact thats its me who said it. Sad really.

Police are very quick to act when the EDL want to get together but when it's the muslim mob they protect them, its beyond belief.

Blame EU legislation and the pussy footing government for that. The police cant do much, they're doing a job with their hands tied in some respects. Its really sad but its the truth. The sooner we're out of the EU and can deport criminals the better.

Not so much their hands are tied but the simple fear of being branded a racist, bigot or Islamophobe is usually enough for them to stop excercising the laws they are given to implement

They don't seem to have a problem laying into the EDL, who they see as racist and bigoted.
But I have yet to hear of the EDL threatening (never mind carrying out) a beheading of an innocent person, who just happens to disagree with them. Perhaps if they changed it around a bit, with the EDL executing innocent people because of their skin colour then the police would leave them alone, as they could claim it was terrorism, and in revenge of a Christian burnt to death in a church in Nigeria. Whereas the 2 sick b's yesterday should be branded as racist, then they would get no protection.

Extremism is politically/religiously motivated by definition. Those men beheaded that soldier in a politically motivated attack therefore they are extremists.
The EDL march using a far right political angle, therefore they are extremists.

Terry Sutcliffe (the yorkshire ripper) just killed women with NO POLITICAL AGENDA therefore he is not an extremist. Just a loony.[/quote]
Now we are getting somewhere Craig, you did state Extremist "group" suggesting a collection of people with the same interests. Comparing the EDL (BTW i think they are a bunch of morons) with the perps from yesterday is to massivly over simplify this as a "black & white" issue of them both being euqally as extreme as one another. This is like saying that a bar brawl is the same as premeditated murder[/quote]

you clearly do not understand the term "extremist"

you are mistaking it for an extreme action.

Johnny the fact of the matter is that you are trying to EQUAL two incidents where one a person has been murdered and in the other no-one gets murdered.

Im sorry but you can't get away from that fact that you stated EQUAL and still try and defend it!!!!

Nothing but a nampy pamby liberial!!!

Johnny the fact of the matter is that you are trying to EQUAL two incidents where one a person has been murdered and in the other no-one gets murdered.

Im sorry but you can't get away from that fact that you stated EQUAL and still try and defend it!!!!

Nothing but a nampy pamby liberial!!!

oh dear oh dear oh dear

you really are that stupid arent you

attacking a soldier for a cause is just as bad as attacking a police officer for a cause. you seem to think different you declare your disgust for the attack on the soldier because its conducted by a terrorist, you shrug off the attacks on the police because its the EDL. Both groups have to live with the consequences of their actions and will be charged relevant to the crimes they have committed. The EDL will have lesser charges because the consequences of their actions were less severe than the acts of terrorists.

I dont understand why you are defending the EDL however that is your right

Its nothing liberal about it, politics have nothing to do with this, this is just a blatant attack on me by yourself dragging current affairs into it and you have the arrogance to tell me im in the wrong.

Attacking soldiers is WRONG
Attacking the police is WRONG
and are both equally wrong
you wont convince me otherwise

the consequences of their actions are different
but it doesnt change the fact that attacking the police is deemed acceptable by the EDL and attacking an off-duty soldier is acceptable by terrorists


DO YOU UNDERSTAND ADAM PROBABLY NOT

and you can shove your expectant apology up your backside because nothing about what I have said is wrong, incorrect or morally abhorrent

its about time people fought back, its our country.
The problem with UK people is that we all moan but don't stick up for our rights anymore.
I blame LABOUR and their open door policy of letting anyone into our country and they are still in denial that's its good for the country.

Johnny the fact of the matter is that you are trying to EQUAL two incidents where one a person has been murdered and in the other no-one gets murdered.

Im sorry but you can't get away from that fact that you stated EQUAL and still try and defend it!!!!

Nothing but a nampy pamby liberial!!!

oh dear oh dear oh dear

you really are that stupid arent you

attacking a soldier for a cause is just as bad as attacking a police officer for a cause. you seem to think different you declare your disgust for the attack on the soldier because its conducted by a terrorist, you shrug off the attacks on the police because its the EDL. Both groups have to live with the consequences of their actions and will be charged relevant to the crimes they have committed. The EDL will have lesser charges because the consequences of their actions were less severe than the acts of terrorists.

I dont understand why you are defending the EDL however that is your right

Its nothing liberal about it, politics have nothing to do with this, this is just a blatant attack on me by yourself dragging current affairs into it and you have the arrogance to tell me im in the wrong.

Attacking soldiers is WRONG
Attacking the police is WRONG
and are both equally wrong
you wont convince me otherwise

the consequences of their actions are different
but it doesnt change the fact that attacking the police is deemed acceptable by the EDL and attacking an off-duty soldier is acceptable by terrorists


DO YOU UNDERSTAND ADAM PROBABLY NOT

and you can shove your expectant apology up your backside because nothing about what I have said is wrong, incorrect or morally abhorrent

You see you are still trying to say that I am defending the EDL when I have said on many times that I clearly not. You on the other hand don't seem feel that murder is EQUAL to non-murder whether or not it the EDL, SDP or f*cking UDF!!!

You are nothing but a KUNT

Johnny the fact of the matter is that you are trying to EQUAL two incidents where one a person has been murdered and in the other no-one gets murdered.

Im sorry but you can't get away from that fact that you stated EQUAL and still try and defend it!!!!

Nothing but a nampy pamby liberial!!!

oh dear oh dear oh dear

you really are that stupid arent you

attacking a soldier for a cause is just as bad as attacking a police officer for a cause. you seem to think different you declare your disgust for the attack on the soldier because its conducted by a terrorist, you shrug off the attacks on the police because its the EDL. Both groups have to live with the consequences of their actions and will be charged relevant to the crimes they have committed. The EDL will have lesser charges because the consequences of their actions were less severe than the acts of terrorists.

I dont understand why you are defending the EDL however that is your right

Its nothing liberal about it, politics have nothing to do with this, this is just a blatant attack on me by yourself dragging current affairs into it and you have the arrogance to tell me im in the wrong.

Attacking soldiers is WRONG
Attacking the police is WRONG
and are both equally wrong
you wont convince me otherwise

the consequences of their actions are different
but it doesnt change the fact that attacking the police is deemed acceptable by the EDL and attacking an off-duty soldier is acceptable by terrorists


DO YOU UNDERSTAND ADAM PROBABLY NOT

and you can shove your expectant apology up your backside because nothing about what I have said is wrong, incorrect or morally abhorrent

You see you are still trying to say that I am defending the EDL when I have said on many times that I clearly not. You on the other hand don't seem feel that murder is EQUAL to non-murder whether or not it the EDL, SDP or f*cking UDF!!!

You are nothing but a KUNT

ah that kunt word again capital letters you really must be way down in your hole by now you have to shout

where have I said murder is the same as assaulting someone I havent

when I say the consequences of their actions will be different its because what they did are different on the criminal scale. Oh hang on you would have ignored that because it doesnt suit your attack on me an justifying you calling me a kunt.

youve completely dismissed and ignored the unjustified attack on our police officers by the EDL, or is the fact that the reason why they attacked the police is morally justifiable to you, because it was a police officer who killed that soldier wasnt it. Oh wait no they were innocent as well.

The terrorist will receive harsher punishments because their actions resulted in murder where as the EDL will have public order offences and the odd assault charge. It still doesnt take away the fact that the reasons both groups decided to take these actions are both disgusting and both on an equal footing neither group is better than the other.

ARE YOU STARTING TO UNDERSTAND NOW OR ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE TO CALL ME A KUNT

Johnny the fact of the matter is that you are trying to EQUAL two incidents where one a person has been murdered and in the other no-one gets murdered.

Im sorry but you can't get away from that fact that you stated EQUAL and still try and defend it!!!!

Nothing but a nampy pamby liberial!!!

oh dear oh dear oh dear

you really are that stupid arent you

attacking a soldier for a cause is just as bad as attacking a police officer for a cause. you seem to think different you declare your disgust for the attack on the soldier because its conducted by a terrorist, you shrug off the attacks on the police because its the EDL. Both groups have to live with the consequences of their actions and will be charged relevant to the crimes they have committed. The EDL will have lesser charges because the consequences of their actions were less severe than the acts of terrorists.

I dont understand why you are defending the EDL however that is your right

Its nothing liberal about it, politics have nothing to do with this, this is just a blatant attack on me by yourself dragging current affairs into it and you have the arrogance to tell me im in the wrong.

Attacking soldiers is WRONG
Attacking the police is WRONG
and are both equally wrong
you wont convince me otherwise

the consequences of their actions are different
but it doesnt change the fact that attacking the police is deemed acceptable by the EDL and attacking an off-duty soldier is acceptable by terrorists


DO YOU UNDERSTAND ADAM PROBABLY NOT

and you can shove your expectant apology up your backside because nothing about what I have said is wrong, incorrect or morally abhorrent

You see you are still trying to say that I am defending the EDL when I have said on many times that I clearly not. You on the other hand don't seem feel that murder is EQ

Johnny the fact of the matter is that you are trying to EQUAL two incidents where one a person has been murdered and in the other no-one gets murdered.

Im sorry but you can't get away from that fact that you stated EQUAL and still try and defend it!!!!

Nothing but a nampy pamby liberial!!!

oh dear oh dear oh dear

you really are that stupid arent you

attacking a soldier for a cause is just as bad as attacking a police officer for a cause. you seem to think different you declare your disgust for the attack on the soldier because its conducted by a terrorist, you shrug off the attacks on the police because its the EDL. Both groups have to live with the consequences of their actions and will be charged relevant to the crimes they have committed. The EDL will have lesser charges because the consequences of their actions were less severe than the acts of terrorists.

I dont understand why you are defending the EDL however that is your right

Its nothing liberal about it, politics have nothing to do with this, this is just a blatant attack on me by yourself dragging current affairs into it and you have the arrogance to tell me im in the wrong.

Attacking soldiers is WRONG
Attacking the police is WRONG
and are both equally wrong
you wont convince me otherwise

the consequences of their actions are different
but it doesnt change the fact that attacking the police is deemed acceptable by the EDL and attacking an off-duty soldier is acceptable by terrorists


DO YOU UNDERSTAND ADAM PROBABLY NOT

and you can shove your expectant apology up your backside because nothing about what I have said is wrong, incorrect or morally abhorrent

You see you are still trying to say that I am defending the EDL when I have said on many times that I clearly not. You on the other hand don't seem feel that murder is EQUAL to non-murder whether or not it the EDL, SDP or f*cking UDF!!!

You are nothing but a KUNT

ah that kunt word again capital letters you really must be way down in your hole by now you have to shout

where have I said murder is the same as assaulting someone I havent

when I say the consequences of their actions will be different its because what they did are different on the criminal scale. Oh hang on you would have ignored that because it doesnt suit your attack on me an justifying you calling me a kunt.

youve completely dismissed and ignored the unjustified attack on our police officers by the EDL, or is the fact that the reason why they attacked the police is morally justifiable to you, because it was a police officer who killed that soldier wasnt it. Oh wait no they were innocent as well.

The terrorist will receive harsher punishments because their actions resulted in murder where as the EDL will have public order offences and the odd assault charge. It still doesnt take away the fact that the reasons both groups decided to take these actions are both disgusting and both on an equal footing neither group is better than the other.

ARE YOU STARTING TO UNDERSTAND NOW OR ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE TO CALL ME A KUNT

UAL to non-murder whether or not it the EDL, SDP or f*cking UDF!!!

You are nothing but a KUNT

By using the word 'EQUALLY' you clearly stated it!!!! FFS you cant make it up!!!! Throw whatever wording you want to try and hide what you said but you clearly stated it