Would Swansea fill their proposed 32,000 stadium?

Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

These are the types of fans that embarrass our club, please don't judge us on these people. They are a good few slices short of a loaf.

You are one of the only cardiff fans who speaks with sense honesty and realism

I have 2 brothers with 4 kids between them who cant get a sniff and give up trying.
Before we got to the prem they like me never missed a game,but could not afford season tickets.
Our catchment area is the same as yours,and with all the hype and the success we are getting many of the younger fans will take more intrested in us wile ther dads may rather cardiff.
P talbot was mostly blue when i was a kid now its mainly white exept tybach and margam
And the kids from neath aint intrested in rugby.
15 years back like you we struggle to get 4k now we are stalking about building a 32k.
We sold out every home game in the prem and when tickets go on sale they are gone in a few hours.
There is over 4k on a waiting list for tickets.
And as you keep saying swansea is a shit hole and has no money and little work,there for many cant afford season tickets but will go if can pay on the day.
And allso the club can give schools tickets and kids for a quid for the smaller games.
Yes we will sell out if we stay up.

I have 2 brothers with 4 kids between them who cant get a sniff and give up trying.
Before we got to the prem they like me never missed a game,but could not afford season tickets.
Our catchment area is the same as yours,and with all the hype and the success we are getting many of the younger fans will take more intrested in us wile ther dads may rather cardiff.
P talbot was mostly blue when i was a kid now its mainly white exept tybach and margam
And the kids from neath aint intrested in rugby.
15 years back like you we struggle to get 4k now we are stalking about building a 32k.
We sold out every home game in the prem and when tickets go on sale they are gone in a few hours.
There is over 4k on a waiting list for tickets.
And as you keep saying swansea is a shit hole and has no money and little work,there for many cant afford season tickets but will go if can pay on the day.
And allso the club can give schools tickets and kids for a quid for the smaller games.
Yes we will sell out if we stay up.

OHHHH god the resident retard has posted, can anyone translate this retarded crap?

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I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

another thread ruined by paxman

I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

F**k off

they can't even fill their sisters pussy never mind that council rugby stadium

they can't even fill their sisters pussy never mind that council rugby stadium

They have sold out every home league game for two seasons running.

they can't even fill their sisters pussy never mind that council rugby stadium

They have sold out every home league game for two seasons running.

what do you want? a game sister?

they can't even fill their sisters pussy never mind that council rugby stadium

They have sold out every home league game for two seasons running.

what do you want? a game sister?

I don't understand.

You said they couldn't sell out their stadium, I just told you they can and do - every home league game in fact.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

It's not rubbish at all, it's exactly how it is.

If there isn't much difference in size of club then the more successful club will get the higher attendance. Surely this is common sense?

Right now swansea are by far and away the most successful club. If we can finish in the top 10, win a major trophy and get into Europe playing an attractive brand of football then we become even again and Cardiff will probably have slightly the bigger gate,

It's how things are I'm afraid. Reality.

But you don't know how we will fair, your basing future stadium attendances on current standing which is set to change come august when we get promoted. They've had 2 seasons in the prem so of course they have the better team and look the more attractive prospect.

but that's exactly what I'm saying. Until we achieve what they have then they will be the more attractive club. If we can get players of the calibre of Michu, win a major trophy, play attractive football, qualify for Europe and sit just outside the top 6 then yes we can probably just trump them in terms of gates.. But we haven't and in reality probably won't..

And we have a bigger gate regardless of how big our stadiums are same as we will have a full stadium next season if we get promoted.

because we have largely been above them. The tables have now turned and until we match them I holy doubt we will draw a bigger crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity. Neither club have a great fan base but the floaters pay to watch success. They are more successful, simple as that.

What your not taking into account is that Swansea have a smaller ground now,they wont have the increased stadium for 3 years, the floating fans will come to Cardiff as there is more chance of a ticket as we have a bigger stadium now , by the time they have built the extension do you really believe the floating fans who would of been watching Cardiff for at least 3 seasons will suddenly jump ship

The more success they have the bigger the fan base will be.
The Jacks have attracted interest from fans further afield than just the South Wales catchment area, with their style of play.
But to be brutally honest, I am more interested in our own club than the Jacks.



The Premier League Capital City of Wales.

another thread ruined by paxman

I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

more than happy to explain my point to anybody else who asks just not you

DEAL WITH IT

I have 2 brothers with 4 kids between them who cant get a sniff and give up trying.
Before we got to the prem they like me never missed a game,but could not afford season tickets.
Our catchment area is the same as yours,and with all the hype and the success we are getting many of the younger fans will take more intrested in us wile ther dads may rather cardiff.
P talbot was mostly blue when i was a kid now its mainly white exept tybach and margam
And the kids from neath aint intrested in rugby.
15 years back like you we struggle to get 4k now we are stalking about building a 32k.
We sold out every home game in the prem and when tickets go on sale they are gone in a few hours.
There is over 4k on a waiting list for tickets.
And as you keep saying swansea is a shit hole and has no money and little work,there for many cant afford season tickets but will go if can pay on the day.
And allso the club can give schools tickets and kids for a quid for the smaller games.
Yes we will sell out if we stay up.

you didn't have a waiting list in the championship though did you When we are up we will sell out every game as well and we will have a waiting list (we already had a waiting list in Feb this season)

For them it makes sense to do this. For christ sakes some people get off tbere high horses. We are on the brink ourselves and on the pitch we have a long way to go to match the Jacks. You lot carry on constantly bitching who has the biggest dick. But me all I care about when it comes to them is we smash em twice next season.

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

To be honest I only just read the rest and it's as ridiculous as the other statement I quoted.

"Nearly the whole of South Wales supporting us", "could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe".... yet we only manage 22,000 top of the league with £10 season tickets in the family stand. Madness. The delusions of some of you are quite frankly nothing short of amazing.[/quotd
YOU PRESUMABLY LIVE IN SWANSEA YES??? we live in neath-in my sons class in school city seasonn ticket holders outnumber the jacks 2-1- as i have said OUTSIDE of swansea you have no substantial support base

You presume wrong, I currently live in Perth at is moment, close though.

I see what you have done though. You seem to be basing the entire support of a city's football club on a class of around 25 kids (which surely 70% at least are not a fan of either club). So that's assuming there are 8 kids, 5 Cardiff fans and 3 swans fans.

As it happens, I've studied in Llanelli and lived in Neath and both were full of swans fans, well I say full as in a healthy number and I think I came across one Cardiff fan in Llanelli that was the subject of great ridicule that there would be a Cardiff fan in Llanelli and came across no Cardiff fans in Neath, and I lived there for 7 years.

What you haven't seemed to twig is the fact that as a club Cardiff only manage to sell 22000 tickets on average and there are thousands in that official number that don't turn up or have taken advantage of the £10 season ticket.

Where are all these fans then?

You have never lived in neath mate, we run this town.

another thread ruined by paxman

I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

more than happy to explain my point to anybody else who asks just not you

DEAL WITH IT

I've dealt with it, as i told you a few posts ago. if you want to talk nonsense with the inability to back it up then thats your choice. Just pointing out your inaccuracies in the posts that followed, which of course have been abundant.

Currently you are not using the forum as its intended and are causing petty exchanges. Hence you are the one ruining the topic not me. All I've done is asked you to explain your obviously cryptic comparison with Coventry and Swansea. You have said you won't as you don't wish to converse with me yet have maintained conversation regarding meaningless drivel spanning two pages

You are a walking contradiction.

I have 2 brothers with 4 kids between them who cant get a sniff and give up trying.
Before we got to the prem they like me never missed a game,but could not afford season tickets.
Our catchment area is the same as yours,and with all the hype and the success we are getting many of the younger fans will take more intrested in us wile ther dads may rather cardiff.
P talbot was mostly blue when i was a kid now its mainly white exept tybach and margam
And the kids from neath aint intrested in rugby.
15 years back like you we struggle to get 4k now we are stalking about building a 32k.
We sold out every home game in the prem and when tickets go on sale they are gone in a few hours.
There is over 4k on a waiting list for tickets.
And as you keep saying swansea is a shit hole and has no money and little work,there for many cant afford season tickets but will go if can pay on the day.
And allso the club can give schools tickets and kids for a quid for the smaller games.
Yes we will sell out if we stay up.

you didn't have a waiting list in the championship though did you When we are up we will sell out every game as well and we will have a waiting list (we already had a waiting list in Feb this season)

They don't have a waiting list now and 32000? Your having a laugh, you have hit your max I'm afraid.

For them it makes sense to do this. For christ sakes some people get off tbere high horses. We are on the brink ourselves and on the pitch we have a long way to go to match the Jacks. You lot carry on constantly bitching who has the biggest dick. But me all I care about when it comes to them is we smash em twice next season.

Some sense.

Nice one nukes, watch you don't get accused of trolling for that though

another thread ruined by paxman

I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

more than happy to explain my point to anybody else who asks just not you

DEAL WITH IT

I've dealt with it, as i told you a few posts ago. if you want to talk nonsense with the inability to back it up then thats your choice. Just pointing out your inaccuracies in the posts that followed, which of course have been abundant.

Currently you are not using the forum as its intended and are causing petty exchanges. Hence you are the one ruining the topic not me. All I've done is asked you to explain your obviously cryptic comparison with Coventry and Swansea. You have said you won't as you don't wish to converse with me yet have maintained conversation regarding meaningless drivel spanning two pages

You are a walking contradiction.

DEAL WITH IT

another thread ruined by paxman

I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

more than happy to explain my point to anybody else who asks just not you

DEAL WITH IT

I've dealt with it, as i told you a few posts ago. if you want to talk nonsense with the inability to back it up then thats your choice. Just pointing out your inaccuracies in the posts that followed, which of course have been abundant.

Currently you are not using the forum as its intended and are causing petty exchanges. Hence you are the one ruining the topic not me. All I've done is asked you to explain your obviously cryptic comparison with Coventry and Swansea. You have said you won't as you don't wish to converse with me yet have maintained conversation regarding meaningless drivel spanning two pages

You are a walking contradiction.

DEAL WITH IT

You liked my little saying didnt you.

However I've already responded twice to that. If you want to make yourself look a bit of a knob then by all means carry on not being able to back your point up

you didn't have a waiting list in the championship though did you When we are up we will sell out every game as well and we will have a waiting list (we already had a waiting list in Feb this season)

Whats that got to do with anything?

We didnt have 22,000 average attendances in league 2.

another thread ruined by paxman

I've asked you very politely to tell me what you are talking about. I'm using the forum and is thread how it is intended, for debate.

You are being a little childlike and as a result have made yourself look a little odd and made the thread look awful, full of petty nonsense.

Next time, give an opinion you are willing to stick to and debate or don't post it on a forum designed for that exact purpose.

Good boy.

more than happy to explain my point to anybody else who asks just not you

DEAL WITH IT

I've dealt with it, as i told you a few posts ago. if you want to talk nonsense with the inability to back it up then thats your choice. Just pointing out your inaccuracies in the posts that followed, which of course have been abundant.

Currently you are not using the forum as its intended and are causing petty exchanges. Hence you are the one ruining the topic not me. All I've done is asked you to explain your obviously cryptic comparison with Coventry and Swansea. You have said you won't as you don't wish to converse with me yet have maintained conversation regarding meaningless drivel spanning two pages

You are a walking contradiction.

DEAL WITH IT

You liked my little saying didnt you.

However I've already responded twice to that. If you want to make yourself look a bit of a knob then by all means carry on not being able to back your point up

DEAL WITH IT

you didn't have a waiting list in the championship though did you When we are up we will sell out every game as well and we will have a waiting list (we already had a waiting list in Feb this season)

Whats that got to do with anything?

We didnt have 22,000 average attendances in league 2.

whats that got to do with anything ,
I'm pointing out that we will have bigger attendances than Swansea . We have had a waiting list for season tickets in February where as they didn't in the championship, the only reason they had a waiting list is because they were the only Welsh team in the prem, when we go up we will sell out every game and also have a waiting list

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DEAL WITH IT

You liked my little saying didnt you.

However I've already responded to that. If you want to make yourself look a bit of a knob then by all means carry on not being able to back your point up

DEAL WITH IT

You liked my little saying didnt you.

However I've already responded to that. If you want to make yourself look a bit of a knob then by all means carry on not being able to back your point up

DEAL WITH IT

You liked my little saying didnt you.

However I've already responded twice to that. If you want to make yourself look a bit of a knob then by all means carry on not being able to back your point up

:lol: You liked my little saying didnt you.

However I've already responded twice to that. If you want to make yourself look a bit of a knob then by all means carry on not being able to back your point up

DEAL WITH IT

The awkward moment when someone is accusing someone of being a troll, yet is trolling themselves...

The awkward moment when someone is accusing someone of being a troll, yet is trolling themselves...

not all just wish he would take his own advice

The awkward moment when someone is accusing someone of being a troll, yet is trolling themselves...

I only asked him a question

He seems to have loved my catchphrase though, shame he's making himself look a bit of a knob. Hopefully he's learned his lesson to only give opinions that you have the ability to explain