Jack owners to pocket two million

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

Love how they come here and try and give it large. The insecurity is sad.

CCFC have always been the biggest and best club and that riles them.

You are the only one that seems riled. And stop your PMs they are boring,

The pm asked you why do you post on here when you are clearly a jack? Please answer

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

FA CUP WIN 86 years ago when football was not on TV or shown to millions across the World

Yes bigger crowds Cardiff but Bigger club Worldwide Swansea

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

FA CUP WIN 86 years ago when football was not on TV or shown to millions across the World

Yes bigger crowds Cardiff but Bigger club Worldwide Swansea

Time doesn't matter - stats are there to prove it.

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

Love how they come here and try and give it large. The insecurity is sad.

CCFC have always been the biggest and best club and that riles them.

You are the only one that seems riled. And stop your PMs they are boring,

The pm asked you why do you post on here when you are clearly a jack? Please answer

I know what it said, I read it. It is still boring funnily enough.

I'm not is the answer. Yawn.

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

FA CUP WIN 86 years ago when football was not on TV or shown to millions across the World

Yes bigger crowds Cardiff but Bigger club Worldwide Swansea

Time doesn't matter - stats are there to prove it.

Old Etonians are better than Cardiff in the FA cup and therfore a bigger club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_F ... ts_by_team Nice try Barry clutching at straws again.

Stats can be manipulated to show anything. The fact Brighton have higher attendances than us yet we don't consider them a bigger club speaks volumes.

Prior to the last few seasons neither Swansea or Cardiff had much or in fact any sort of a profile world wide. Since Swansea have got to the Prem they have been one of the refreshing bright sparks of the league, winning a major trophy and comfortably in the top 10 while about to embark on european football and boasting players touted to represent the most successful international side in history... All while playing a brand of football that has earned them plaudits from pundits and players world wide.

There's no doubt swansea are the bigger club now, it should be our ambition to not just match but better them. Promotion is the first step.

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

FA CUP WIN 86 years ago when football was not on TV or shown to millions across the World

Yes bigger crowds Cardiff but Bigger club Worldwide Swansea

Time doesn't matter - stats are there to prove it.

Old Etonians are better than Cardiff in the FA cup and therfore a bigger club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_F ... ts_by_team Nice try Barry clutching at straws again.

I think the stats I provided covered all bases necessary.

You asked why so I gave you examples.

What does interest me though is why the club issues a statement regarding profits over the last 6 months at the same time the dividend is announced. Couldn't be they are trying to justify themselves and how often has the club made public 6 monthly results?, why aren't questions being asked about how the £16m profit was made up. What effect did player sales have on this profit? Joe Allen was sold to Liverpool for what £15m so has this dividend been paid on the back of player sales.

In most cases this dividend, however justified, amounts to not just a return on investment but a profit of more than 4 times the original investment. Is this just the start of the owners taking their share by riding the gravy train that PL revenues bring.

Whatever the reasons it will be interesting to see the reaction should things go wrong for the club in the future. I'm not saying it will but history says with the exception of only a few clubs few enjoy longterm stays in the PL.

It does state how much was made up from player sales, and there was £5.6 million profit after player sales which the dividend will have come from.

To be honest, I don't care about £1 million when the owners have made the club over £40 million in the last couple of years.

This was quite a good post until the usual morons got involved.

It is relevant to us how much Swansea made over a six month period, our owner or primary shareholder (and debt holder) have staked a lot in reaching the promised land. The jacks have ran their small club very well and the profit they made without transfers show it will take a some time to pay off our existing debts even if we stay in their for a while.

Your not going to reduce your debt without Tan writing it off, you haven't run your club sustainably in the Championship and will inevitably look to spend money to try and stay in the division. Your already likely to be paying more than us on wages when your in the Championship, so don't expect this debt to be cured when you make it in to the Premier League.

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

FA CUP WIN 86 years ago when football was not on TV or shown to millions across the World

Yes bigger crowds Cardiff but Bigger club Worldwide Swansea

Time doesn't matter - stats are there to prove it.

Interesting you include welsh cup wins in the head to heads when we all know the figures for proper football results.
As has been said before you talk about history, we create history.
As a fan of 32 years I am more than happy at what I have seen as a swans fan.

Years in top flight 4-0
highest league position 6th - 24th ish?
Fa cup wins 0-0
league cup wins 1-0
head to head - Cant be arsed to work out
Seasons finished highest. Swansea no doubt
Wembley mill stad appearences 6 - 4

That will do me, as what happened before I was born is of little importance to me as a fan.
Although an Fa cup win would be nice to draw level with you lot and Bury and leave us a few behind old etonians!

Didnt realise history can only go as far back as when "jackf" started watching football.

What does interest me though is why the club issues a statement regarding profits over the last 6 months at the same time the dividend is announced. Couldn't be they are trying to justify themselves and how often has the club made public 6 monthly results?, why aren't questions being asked about how the £16m profit was made up. What effect did player sales have on this profit? Joe Allen was sold to Liverpool for what £15m so has this dividend been paid on the back of player sales.

In most cases this dividend, however justified, amounts to not just a return on investment but a profit of more than 4 times the original investment. Is this just the start of the owners taking their share by riding the gravy train that PL revenues bring.

Whatever the reasons it will be interesting to see the reaction should things go wrong for the club in the future. I'm not saying it will but history says with the exception of only a few clubs few enjoy longterm stays in the PL.

It does state how much was made up from player sales, and there was £5.6 million profit after player sales which the dividend will have come from.

To be honest, I don't care about £1 million when the owners have made the club over £40 million in the last couple of years.

So in 6 months £20m+ in player sales has resulted in a profit of £5.6m which means without those sales a £14m loss. The interesting term was interim dividend which normally means declared before an AGM. Hmmm

Anyway after all these years of success do you think it is morally correct that the owners of the club share £2m whilst the local council has had to write off £2.37m. Nothing to do with the debts of the previous owners this is the money the council advanced, in the form of a mortgage, to the stadium to fit out the hospitality areas. This mortgage, a loan, was held on the council annual accounts as debt, a debt that not a single penny was received in repayment and was written off when it come under the scrutiny of the Audit Office.

Swansea City have a direct relationship with the company, as a managing partner, and therefore hold a direct responsibility for the default on this loan. Is it right that directors of SCFC benefit by £2m when the public purse has to right off £2.37m because it was obvious that the stadium management company, and by association SCFC, refused to repay any money.

What does interest me though is why the club issues a statement regarding profits over the last 6 months at the same time the dividend is announced. Couldn't be they are trying to justify themselves and how often has the club made public 6 monthly results?, why aren't questions being asked about how the £16m profit was made up. What effect did player sales have on this profit? Joe Allen was sold to Liverpool for what £15m so has this dividend been paid on the back of player sales.

In most cases this dividend, however justified, amounts to not just a return on investment but a profit of more than 4 times the original investment. Is this just the start of the owners taking their share by riding the gravy train that PL revenues bring.

Whatever the reasons it will be interesting to see the reaction should things go wrong for the club in the future. I'm not saying it will but history says with the exception of only a few clubs few enjoy longterm stays in the PL.

It does state how much was made up from player sales, and there was £5.6 million profit after player sales which the dividend will have come from.

To be honest, I don't care about £1 million when the owners have made the club over £40 million in the last couple of years.

So in 6 months £20m+ in player sales has resulted in a profit of £5.6m which means without those sales a £14m loss. The interesting term was interim dividend which normally means declared before an AGM. Hmmm

Anyway after all these years of success do you think it is morally correct that the owners of the club share £2m whilst the local council has had to write off £2.37m. Nothing to do with the debts of the previous owners this is the money the council advanced, in the form of a mortgage, to the stadium to fit out the hospitality areas. This mortgage, a loan, was held on the council annual accounts as debt, a debt that not a single penny was received in repayment and was written off when it come under the scrutiny of the Audit Office.

Swansea City have a direct relationship with the company, as a managing partner, and therefore hold a direct responsibility for the default on this loan. Is it right that directors of SCFC benefit by £2m when the public purse has to right off £2.37m because it was obvious that the stadium management company, and by association SCFC, refused to repay any money.

But they are well run!

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

What does interest me though is why the club issues a statement regarding profits over the last 6 months at the same time the dividend is announced. Couldn't be they are trying to justify themselves and how often has the club made public 6 monthly results?, why aren't questions being asked about how the £16m profit was made up. What effect did player sales have on this profit? Joe Allen was sold to Liverpool for what £15m so has this dividend been paid on the back of player sales.

In most cases this dividend, however justified, amounts to not just a return on investment but a profit of more than 4 times the original investment. Is this just the start of the owners taking their share by riding the gravy train that PL revenues bring.

Whatever the reasons it will be interesting to see the reaction should things go wrong for the club in the future. I'm not saying it will but history says with the exception of only a few clubs few enjoy longterm stays in the PL.

It does state how much was made up from player sales, and there was £5.6 million profit after player sales which the dividend will have come from.

To be honest, I don't care about £1 million when the owners have made the club over £40 million in the last couple of years.

So in 6 months £20m+ in player sales has resulted in a profit of £5.6m which means without those sales a £14m loss. The interesting term was interim dividend which normally means declared before an AGM. Hmmm

Anyway after all these years of success do you think it is morally correct that the owners of the club share £2m whilst the local council has had to write off £2.37m. Nothing to do with the debts of the previous owners this is the money the council advanced, in the form of a mortgage, to the stadium to fit out the hospitality areas. This mortgage, a loan, was held on the council annual accounts as debt, a debt that not a single penny was received in repayment and was written off when it come under the scrutiny of the Audit Office.

Swansea City have a direct relationship with the company, as a managing partner, and therefore hold a direct responsibility for the default on this loan. Is it right that directors of SCFC benefit by £2m when the public purse has to right off £2.37m because it was obvious that the stadium management company, and by association SCFC, refused to repay any money.

No, the operating profit was £5.6 million with £15 million profit from player sales. This operating profit of £5.6 million is before the cup final cash.

We've benefited £58 million to the local economy last season, and have no debt to the council. The council is very much on the side of anything beneficial to Swansea City, such as granting the planning permission for any possibly stadium expansion.

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Well done. I think fans inside a ground are far more important than fans from the middle of nowhere.

Thanks for the update though, Geraint Pillock.

What does interest me though is why the club issues a statement regarding profits over the last 6 months at the same time the dividend is announced. Couldn't be they are trying to justify themselves and how often has the club made public 6 monthly results?, why aren't questions being asked about how the £16m profit was made up. What effect did player sales have on this profit? Joe Allen was sold to Liverpool for what £15m so has this dividend been paid on the back of player sales.

In most cases this dividend, however justified, amounts to not just a return on investment but a profit of more than 4 times the original investment. Is this just the start of the owners taking their share by riding the gravy train that PL revenues bring.

Whatever the reasons it will be interesting to see the reaction should things go wrong for the club in the future. I'm not saying it will but history says with the exception of only a few clubs few enjoy longterm stays in the PL.

It does state how much was made up from player sales, and there was £5.6 million profit after player sales which the dividend will have come from.

To be honest, I don't care about £1 million when the owners have made the club over £40 million in the last couple of years.

So in 6 months £20m+ in player sales has resulted in a profit of £5.6m which means without those sales a £14m loss. The interesting term was interim dividend which normally means declared before an AGM. Hmmm

Anyway after all these years of success do you think it is morally correct that the owners of the club share £2m whilst the local council has had to write off £2.37m. Nothing to do with the debts of the previous owners this is the money the council advanced, in the form of a mortgage, to the stadium to fit out the hospitality areas. This mortgage, a loan, was held on the council annual accounts as debt, a debt that not a single penny was received in repayment and was written off when it come under the scrutiny of the Audit Office.

Swansea City have a direct relationship with the company, as a managing partner, and therefore hold a direct responsibility for the default on this loan. Is it right that directors of SCFC benefit by £2m when the public purse has to right off £2.37m because it was obvious that the stadium management company, and by association SCFC, refused to repay any money.

No, the operating profit was £5.6 million with £15 million profit from player sales. This operating profit of £5.6 million is before the cup final cash.

We've benefited £58 million to the local economy last season, and have no debt to the council. The council is very much on the side of anything beneficial to Swansea City, such as granting the planning permission for any possibly stadium expansion.

No debt to the council is correct but only after the £2.37m mortgage was written off. All this profit and the public purse suffers whilst the owners of a private sports club are filling thier bank accounts.


Real Class.

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Well done. I think fans inside a ground are far more important than fans from the middle of nowhere.

Thanks for the update though, Geraint Pillock.

Tan doesn't think so.

No debt to the council is correct but only after the £2.37m mortgage was written off. All this profit and the public purse suffers whilst the owners of a private sports club are filling thier bank accounts.


Real Class.

I haven't seen anything about a £2.37 million mortgage being written off, but I do know that the council is benefiting massively from Swansea City's success.

Well, it's a good job that I believe Tan talks a load of bollocks then.

Well, it's a good job that I believe Tan talks a load of bollocks then.

Well it's not a good job for you that Tan's the one making the decisions.

Well, it's a good job that I believe Tan talks a load of bollocks then.

Well it's not a good job for you that Tan's the one making the decisions.

Sad, but true.

But we get sellouts every home gamr do you?.
We have a 5 k waiting list for seasone tickets allon have u?.
Over 600 from hand came to watch the swans in yhe final how many fans have u got out side of wales?.
Ps have i been abuaive and called u names?i thonk not mr chucks.

But we get sellouts every home gamr do you?.
We have a 5 k waiting list for seasone tickets allon have u?.
Over 600 from hand came to watch the swans in yhe final how many fans have u got out side of wales?.
Ps have i been abuaive and called u names?i thonk not mr chucks.

No you don't, the STs are on general sale soon.

Yes, you've abused me several times through PM.. Such a hard guy.

New season tickets and they not on genral sale but next in line on jackarmy members.
And i would say that if u dont like name calling ?dont name call your self.
I dont care about it my self but if u run to the mods because i call u a bitch then you sou d rather foolish calling me names.

2012-2013 Average Attendence; Cardiff = 23,341, Swansea = 20,349
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 10th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 6 of 8.

FA CUP WIN 86 years ago when football was not on TV or shown to millions across the World

Yes bigger crowds Cardiff but Bigger club Worldwide Swansea

Time doesn't matter - stats are there to prove it.

League Played 54 Cardiff 18 Draw 16 Swansea 20
FA Cup Played 2 Cardiff 0 Draw 0 Swansea 2
League Cup Played 5 Cardiff 2 Draw 0 Swansea 3

Total wins head to head in MEANINGFUL competition:
Cardiff 20
Swansea 25

Forget the Southern league/FAW nonsense.

What does interest me though is why the club issues a statement regarding profits over the last 6 months at the same time the dividend is announced. Couldn't be they are trying to justify themselves and how often has the club made public 6 monthly results?, why aren't questions being asked about how the £16m profit was made up. What effect did player sales have on this profit? Joe Allen was sold to Liverpool for what £15m so has this dividend been paid on the back of player sales.

In most cases this dividend, however justified, amounts to not just a return on investment but a profit of more than 4 times the original investment. Is this just the start of the owners taking their share by riding the gravy train that PL revenues bring.

Whatever the reasons it will be interesting to see the reaction should things go wrong for the club in the future. I'm not saying it will but history says with the exception of only a few clubs few enjoy longterm stays in the PL.

It does state how much was made up from player sales, and there was £5.6 million profit after player sales which the dividend will have come from.

To be honest, I don't care about £1 million when the owners have made the club over £40 million in the last couple of years.

So in 6 months £20m+ in player sales has resulted in a profit of £5.6m which means without those sales a £14m loss. The interesting term was interim dividend which normally means declared before an AGM. Hmmm

Anyway after all these years of success do you think it is morally correct that the owners of the club share £2m whilst the local council has had to write off £2.37m. Nothing to do with the debts of the previous owners this is the money the council advanced, in the form of a mortgage, to the stadium to fit out the hospitality areas. This mortgage, a loan, was held on the council annual accounts as debt, a debt that not a single penny was received in repayment and was written off when it come under the scrutiny of the Audit Office.

Swansea City have a direct relationship with the company, as a managing partner, and therefore hold a direct responsibility for the default on this loan. Is it right that directors of SCFC benefit by £2m when the public purse has to right off £2.37m because it was obvious that the stadium management company, and by association SCFC, refused to repay any money.

No, the operating profit was £5.6 million with £15 million profit from player sales. This operating profit of £5.6 million is before the cup final cash.

We've benefited £58 million to the local economy last season, and have no debt to the council. The council is very much on the side of anything beneficial to Swansea City, such as granting the planning permission for any possibly stadium expansion.

No debt to the council is correct but only after the £2.37m mortgage was written off. All this profit and the public purse suffers whilst the owners of a private sports club are filling thier bank accounts.


Real Class.

So let me get this straight, a new stadium is being built that 2 clubs have tenancy agreements for. The owner/landlord of the stadium miscalculates the amount it costs to fit it out and you're suggesting that the 2 clubs should pay for that?

errr, ok.

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Your danish fans will be gone when laudrup fucks off. Your spanish fans will lose interest when your spaniards leave you. When ki goes you wont sell a single kit in the far east. You'll always have your den haag buddies, but who the f**k are they? Now, all you need is more welsh fans. Sell some season tickets.

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Your danish fans will be gone when laudrup fucks off. Your spanish fans will lose interest when your spaniards leave you. When ki goes you wont sell a single kit in the far east. You'll always have your den haag buddies, but who the f**k are they? Now, all you need is more welsh fans. Sell some season tickets.

Keep clutching at those straws Murph

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Your danish fans will be gone when laudrup fucks off. Your spanish fans will lose interest when your spaniards leave you. When ki goes you wont sell a single kit in the far east. You'll always have your den haag buddies, but who the f**k are they? Now, all you need is more welsh fans. Sell some season tickets.

Keep clutching at those straws Murph

its the truth mush and you know it.

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Your danish fans will be gone when laudrup fucks off. Your spanish fans will lose interest when your spaniards leave you. When ki goes you wont sell a single kit in the far east. You'll always have your den haag buddies, but who the f**k are they? Now, all you need is more welsh fans. Sell some season tickets.

Keep clutching at those straws Murph

its the truth mush and you know it.

I know it's the truth that you're clutching at straws, that's why I said it

We have more of a fan base out side of wales then u.
Large numbers in holand and fan base in denmark and spain.
Plus for all your eforts in asia ots us who sold 260 kits a day thanks to ki.
We are on a totaly diffrent planet to u.

Your danish fans will be gone when laudrup fucks off. Your spanish fans will lose interest when your spaniards leave you. When ki goes you wont sell a single kit in the far east. You'll always have your den haag buddies, but who the f**k are they? Now, all you need is more welsh fans. Sell some season tickets.

Keep clutching at those straws Murph

its the truth mush and you know it.

I know it's the truth that you're clutching at straws, that's why I said it

Clutching straws at what