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Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:18 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


But what has a bigger social impact? In my view a lot of general disrespect and anti social behaviour is perpetrated by people who have had few constraints put on them by either family or the state. Free money will never engender decency in these people.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:23 pm

Anyone would think you have an axe to grind with the Labour Party :roll:

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:24 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


But what has a bigger social impact? In my view a lot of general disrespect and anti social behaviour is perpetrated by people who have had few constraints put on them by either family or the state. Free money will never engender decency in these people.


He is talking about people committing benefit fraud, not everyone claiming benefits. People committing benefit fraud get put in prison, people committing tax evasion get invites to fancy dinners.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:25 pm

Labour are a joke party that know how to play on ignorant peoples minds. They know 90% of working class voters don't know a single policy when it comes to voting. All they need to do is jump on the hate Tory bandwagon and let the working class gossip about how bad their lives are. People moannnnnnn about "That polish man stealing my job" then they'll vote Labour. Absolute abysmal party that took a big steaming shit over Britain with its immigration policy. Britain is about as British as the owners of Cardiff city.

Its not too different from Cardiff, Labour showed no love of the British culture or history. Human rights are bollocks.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:15 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


But what has a bigger social impact? In my view a lot of general disrespect and anti social behaviour is perpetrated by people who have had few constraints put on them by either family or the state. Free money will never engender decency in these people.


He is talking about people committing benefit fraud, not everyone claiming benefits. People committing benefit fraud get put in prison, people committing tax evasion get invites to fancy dinners.



I'm not sure that is true or urban myth, but like i said, tax evaders aren't a social nuisance ruining peoples lives like anti social families are, Labour lost the plot by trying to pacify these people with easy money, also the whole immigration issue was too one sided with labour, they presided over a culture of shouting down the working class if they dare mention immigration. I grew up a labour man but the later years of the last government made me f*cking hate them for dismissing the working class.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:08 pm

The Sheriff wrote:Labour are a joke party that know how to play on ignorant peoples minds. They know 90% of working class voters don't know a single policy when it comes to voting. All they need to do is jump on the hate Tory bandwagon and let the working class gossip about how bad their lives are. People moannnnnnn about "That polish man stealing my job" then they'll vote Labour. Absolute abysmal party that took a big steaming shit over Britain with its immigration policy. Britain is about as British as the owners of Cardiff city.

Its not too different from Cardiff, Labour showed no love of the British culture or history. Human rights are bollocks.


Instead of vomitting this tripe through your keyboard you could try responding to the people quoted and replied to you in this thread.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:12 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


But what has a bigger social impact? In my view a lot of general disrespect and anti social behaviour is perpetrated by people who have had few constraints put on them by either family or the state. Free money will never engender decency in these people.


He is talking about people committing benefit fraud, not everyone claiming benefits. People committing benefit fraud get put in prison, people committing tax evasion get invites to fancy dinners.



I'm not sure that is true or urban myth, but like i said, tax evaders aren't a social nuisance ruining peoples lives like anti social families are, Labour lost the plot by trying to pacify these people with easy money, also the whole immigration issue was too one sided with labour, they presided over a culture of shouting down the working class if they dare mention immigration. I grew up a labour man but the later years of the last government made me f*cking hate them for dismissing the working class.


I guess its the visible problem vs. the invisible problem. The money that is effectively stolen via tax evasion could be put to use in so many different areas.