" 40 YEARS OF LOVING THIS CLUB "

annis, its over

you should walk away, its painful but its better than torturing yourself like this

Walking away achieves nothing. Even if 1000 of us stopped going it would change nothing. 1000 of us stood outside the front of CCS before or after the Blackburn game all in BLUE expressing our feeling, with SKY Sports News, BBC, The press etc their may not get change straight away but at least we would have started something, something that other fans feel they could be a part of. And from little acorns.....

I am convinced that there are many fans that would join a protest and a protest group if it is organised properly. God we live in the age of social media, this should be easy stuff really shouldn't it.

What are we going to do, sit back and take this shit or fight for OUR clubs identity?


WE ARE CARDIFF CITY - THE BLUEBIRDS

annis, its over

you should walk away, its painful but its better than torturing yourself like this

Walking away achieves nothing. Even if 1000 of us stopped going it would change nothing. 1000 of us stood outside the front of CCS before or after the Blackburn game all in BLUE expressing our feeling, with SKY Sports News, BBC, The press etc their may not get change straight away but at least we would have started something, something that other fans feel they could be a part of. And from little acorns.....

I am convinced that there are many fans that would join a protest and a protest group if it is organised properly. God we live in the age of social media, this should be easy stuff really shouldn't it.

What are we going to do, sit back and take this shit or fight for OUR clubs identity?


WE ARE CARDIFF CITY - THE BLUEBIRDS

Yea but who is going to organize such a thing like I said we need a leader step forward who.

annis, its over

you should walk away, its painful but its better than torturing yourself like this

Walking away achieves nothing. Even if 1000 of us stopped going it would change nothing. 1000 of us stood outside the front of CCS before or after the Blackburn game all in BLUE expressing our feeling, with SKY Sports News, BBC, The press etc their may not get change straight away but at least we would have started something, something that other fans feel they could be a part of. And from little acorns.....

I am convinced that there are many fans that would join a protest and a protest group if it is organised properly. God we live in the age of social media, this should be easy stuff really shouldn't it.

What are we going to do, sit back and take this shit or fight for OUR clubs identity?


WE ARE CARDIFF CITY - THE BLUEBIRDS

Yea but who is going to organize such a thing like I said we need a leader step forward who.

It would be goo if everyone that is opposed would join the trust, then thet can give the trust mandate to take action. Things have changed significantly since last May when we were all too scared that tan would walk away, but i get the feeling that the trust want to do something and we could give them the power to do it.

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.
Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

I will never ever lose my love for the club as I will never lose the love I have for my kids no matter how much they change going forward. I have always respected your views but always believed like me that the football team that plays in Cardiff and is called called Cardiff with a history of over 100 years meant as much to you as it did to me. I guess a change of colour and a change of badge changes things for you as a move away from Cardiff or a change of name would change things for me. Whilst Cardiff plays in Cardiff whether it be playing in blue, red or pink with polka dots and whether it has a carp on the badge or a bluebird or a dragon I will always love this club.

Says "blue"lover. Or should that be red, pink or polka dots lover.

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annis, its over

you should walk away, its painful but its better than torturing yourself like this

Walking away achieves nothing. Even if 1000 of us stopped going it would change nothing. 1000 of us stood outside the front of CCS before or after the Blackburn game all in BLUE expressing our feeling, with SKY Sports News, BBC, The press etc their may not get change straight away but at least we would have started something, something that other fans feel they could be a part of. And from little acorns.....

I am convinced that there are many fans that would join a protest and a protest group if it is organised properly. God we live in the age of social media, this should be easy stuff really shouldn't it.

What are we going to do, sit back and take this shit or fight for OUR clubs identity?


WE ARE CARDIFF CITY - THE BLUEBIRDS

Yea but who is going to organize such a thing like I said we need a leader step forward who.

It would be goo if everyone that is opposed would join the trust, then thet can give the trust mandate to take action. Things have changed significantly since last May when we were all too scared that tan would walk away, but i get the feeling that the trust want to do something and we could give them the power to do it.

I also think the trust really do want to do something but because they need to be seen to be acting on behalf of their members I can understand why it takes them a while to sort something out, the recent questionnaire they sent out I think is proof of this.

In the meantime can I suggest pro blue fans stay behind each game for about 15mins and get together for some bluebirds chants. This WILL get picked up by the media especially as their post match analysis is very often given directly from the stadium.
it kind of happened organically on Tuesday but like many other pro-blues I left early because the sight of the sea of red quite honestly sickened me but the photos of the fans around the massive blue flag made me wish I'd stayed and joined in.

owners come and go , fans are constant , we support the club through thick and thin .
This is a strange time to be a Cardiff City fan, on one hand we are on course for one of the biggest prizes in football, but on the other hand we are not doing it in our traditional blue , it does somewhat seem a bit tainted.
However it's still our club we were hear before Tan and I wont let him or anyone else force me out of my club, I believe 1 day we will return to blue admittedly not for a few years , it's still my club and always will be BLUEBIRDS

I agree with every word mate. These are potentially great times for our Club. Let's get to the Premier League....let's get established....let Tan expand the stadium...let him build the new training ground...let him clear the debt. When all this is in place then we are on safe ground to put massive pressure on to change back to blue. He won't want to throw it all away...that's for sure. By this time we'd be a very attractive proposition to many other billionaires, and if Tan decides to sell the new owners would no doubt be willing to revert to blue in order to get the fans onside. This is Cardiff City....enjoy the ride.

spot on Annis

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.

I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.

Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

I will never ever lose my love for the club as I will never lose the love I have for my kids no matter how much they change going forward. I have always respected your views but always believed like me that the football team that plays in Cardiff and is called called Cardiff with a history of over 100 years meant as much to you as it did to me. I guess a change of colour and a change of badge changes things for you as a move away from Cardiff or a change of name would change things for me. Whilst Cardiff plays in Cardiff whether it be playing in blue, red or pink with polka dots and whether it has a carp on the badge or a bluebird or a dragon I will always love this club.

The problem is as much as I respect you views there are so many fans who think opposite to each other and thats what the re brand has achieved I dont no what else it has achieved but us fans are so far apart .

Years gone buy we would all walk up united and watch the city them days are gone you have to at least admit that.

You can love the club all you like and thats great but just like I love the club but the situation created is not a good for us or CCFC.

Your correct its not nice and in an ideal world we would all be happy but we all have to face whether we like it or not that things change in life.

How many businesses, and yes Cardiff City AFC is a business, have been around for 100 years without having had to evolve to survive and/or compete. We are not a big club as much as we want to believe we are but we can become a big club but only through investment and by increasing our market.

The business that is Cardiff City is loss making like most other football clubs and if we don't evolve then we will not survive at this level for much longer. We currently have what the majority of us have always wanted, a businessman who wants to take this club forward and has the clout to do it.

Some say that they would prefer to play Division 2 football in front of crowds of 3,000 like the 'good' old days if it meant we had a blue shirt on the players back but the majority want the club to play and compete in top league football. To do that long term Cardiff City needs to appeal to a wider audience, to increase its marketing potential as astronomical player wages need to be sourced, everyone surely can understand that is absolutely essential.

Some of course hope a local sugar daddy will come in and subsidise players wages year on year. I would like to think we can compete at the top of the Premier league in years to come and with the likes of Arsenal paying wages of £140m a year, we aren't going to get a sugar daddy capable of covering costs like that and we are never ever going to generate sufficient income locally to enable us to compete at the top.

Tan is a clever businessman who obviously believes he can succeed in getting our club to appeal to a wider market and has serious connections in what will become the largest market in the world. I don't believe for one second he will ever take away our name or move the club away from Cardiff and if he ever did either of those things then I would walk, but I 100% understand the importance of brand and if he feels that a red shirt will appeal in the far east then who am I to argue.

Historically, we have changed name, shirt colour and ground and people will no doubt have protested against those changes. If we hadn't evolved we would still be Riverside playing local league football as a secondary sport behind cricket in a non-blue shirt.

Its essential that we evolve to survive, I can't believe for one second that there is anyone on this board who doesn't believe that. Tan has his ideas on how to evolve this business, if there is anyone on this board who can offer an alternative businessplan that involves a blue shirt and has money to burn then please come out of the shadows now. The reality is, as evidenced at the Brighton game, the majority of fans are prepared to go along with Tan's vision. Whilst I understand that some can't stomach a change of shirt colour or badge, to say that this is enough to make them stop loving the Club just does my head in, I will never understand that sorry

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.
Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

I will never ever lose my love for the club as I will never lose the love I have for my kids no matter how much they change going forward. I have always respected your views but always believed like me that the football team that plays in Cardiff and is called called Cardiff with a history of over 100 years meant as much to you as it did to me. I guess a change of colour and a change of badge changes things for you as a move away from Cardiff or a change of name would change things for me. Whilst Cardiff plays in Cardiff whether it be playing in blue, red or pink with polka dots and whether it has a carp on the badge or a bluebird or a dragon I will always love this club.

Says "blue"lover. Or should that be red, pink or polka dots lover.

Strangely no one has ever said that to me before. We were blue when i joined this board many years ago. Its as simple as that really and yes if I had joined now I may well have called myself redlover as the team I support happens to plays in red and if I had joined in years to come and we happened to play in pink or polka dots then maybe I may have called myself some clever and meaningful name like Mario Polotelli.

Not 40 years for me but eitherway tuesday proved to me times are moving on with or without us and it was shocking to see

Annis, I'l PM you my view on it in a blog post.

I'm having a break off here now to focus on uni stuff and the football on the pitch.

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.
Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

I will never ever lose my love for the club as I will never lose the love I have for my kids no matter how much they change going forward. I have always respected your views but always believed like me that the football team that plays in Cardiff and is called called Cardiff with a history of over 100 years meant as much to you as it did to me. I guess a change of colour and a change of badge changes things for you as a move away from Cardiff or a change of name would change things for me. Whilst Cardiff plays in Cardiff whether it be playing in blue, red or pink with polka dots and whether it has a carp on the badge or a bluebird or a dragon I will always love this club.

Says "blue"lover. Or should that be red, pink or polka dots lover.

Strangely no one has ever said that to me before. We were blue when i joined this board many years ago. Its as simple as that really and yes if I had joined now I may well have called myself redlover as the team I support happens to plays in red and if I had joined in years to come and we happened to play in pink or polka dots then maybe I may have called myself some clever and meaningful name like Mario Polotelli.

Well said. At least you've made your mind up. Others seem to change with the wind.

this is why we have evolved into red.

Evolution is the change in the inherited
characteristics of biological populations
over successive generations.
Evolutionary processes give rise to
diversity at every level of biological
organisation, including species, individual
organisms and molecules such as DNA
and proteins. [1]
Life on Earth evolved from a universal
common ancestor approximately 3.8
billion years ago.
This why we have evolved from blue to
red,we have adapted to survive.

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Your correct its not nice and in an ideal world we would all be happy but we all have to face whether we like it or not that things change in life.

How many businesses, and yes Cardiff City AFC is a business, have been around for 100 years without having had to evolve to survive and/or compete. We are not a big club as much as we want to believe we are but we can become a big club but only through investment and by increasing our market.

The business that is Cardiff City is loss making like most other football clubs and if we don't evolve then we will not survive at this level for much longer. We currently have what the majority of us have always wanted, a businessman who wants to take this club forward and has the clout to do it.

Some say that they would prefer to play Division 2 football in front of crowds of 3,000 like the 'good' old days if it meant we had a blue shirt on the players back but the majority want the club to play and compete in top league football. To do that long term Cardiff City needs to appeal to a wider audience, to increase its marketing potential as astronomical player wages need to be sourced, everyone surely can understand that is absolutely essential.

Some of course hope a local sugar daddy will come in and subsidise players wages year on year. I would like to think we can compete at the top of the Premier league in years to come and with the likes of Arsenal paying wages of £140m a year, we aren't going to get a sugar daddy capable of covering costs like that and we are never ever going to generate sufficient income locally to enable us to compete at the top.

Tan is a clever businessman who obviously believes he can succeed in getting our club to appeal to a wider market and has serious connections in what will become the largest market in the world. I don't believe for one second he will ever take away our name or move the club away from Cardiff and if he ever did either of those things then I would walk, but I 100% understand the importance of brand and if he feels that a red shirt will appeal in the far east then who am I to argue.

Historically, we have changed name, shirt colour and ground and people will no doubt have protested against those changes. If we hadn't evolved we would still be Riverside playing local league football as a secondary sport behind cricket in a non-blue shirt.

Its essential that we evolve to survive, I can't believe for one second that there is anyone on this board who doesn't believe that. Tan has his ideas on how to evolve this business, if there is anyone on this board who can offer an alternative businessplan that involves a blue shirt and has money to burn then please come out of the shadows now. The reality is, as evidenced at the Brighton game, the majority of fans are prepared to go along with Tan's vision. Whilst I understand that some can't stomach a change of shirt colour or badge, to say that this is enough to make them stop loving the Club just does my head in, I will never understand that sorry

out of interest, why do you think it so necessary to spend a shedload of cash on players/wages to compete in the prem? qpr did, look where they are right now. portsmouth did, look where they are. same for leeds. villa have spent loads, theyre not in any great shakes.

yet west brom, stoke, ourselves, norwich all havent and we're looking pretty good no? you talk about wanting to compete - unfortunately i cant see any new clubs breaking the mould, and the way to do it would be through a sustained build up, not going shit or bust.

owners come and go , fans are constant , we support the club through thick and thin .
This is a strange time to be a Cardiff City fan, on one hand we are on course for one of the biggest prizes in football, but on the other hand we are not doing it in our traditional blue , it does somewhat seem a bit tainted.
However it's still our club we were hear before Tan and I wont let him or anyone else force me out of my club, I believe 1 day we will return to blue admittedly not for a few years , it's still my club and always will be BLUEBIRDS

I agree with every word mate. These are potentially great times for our Club. Let's get to the Premier League....let's get established....let Tan expand the stadium...let him build the new training ground...let him clear the debt. When all this is in place then we are on safe ground to put massive pressure on to change back to blue. He won't want to throw it all away...that's for sure. By this time we'd be a very attractive proposition to many other billionaires, and if Tan decides to sell the new owners would no doubt be willing to revert to blue in order to get the fans onside. This is Cardiff City....enjoy the ride.

Totally agree with this - I stated the same in another post - we do not have to accept the red as always being there - In the PL the fans will be much better placed to air their views on the worldwide stage in front of millions of viewers - Tan would not like to be associated with such negative broadcasting, we would be financialy safer and a "new buyer" may be tempted to come in and champion the "return to blue".

i think its a shame that your promotion season has come against the backdrop of this infighting etc.

i also think whats happened is a sad indictment on modern day football where clubs are just playthings for millionaire foreigners who only have their financial interests at heart

Your correct its not nice and in an ideal world we would all be happy but we all have to face whether we like it or not that things change in life.

How many businesses, and yes Cardiff City AFC is a business, have been around for 100 years without having had to evolve to survive and/or compete. We are not a big club as much as we want to believe we are but we can become a big club but only through investment and by increasing our market.

The business that is Cardiff City is loss making like most other football clubs and if we don't evolve then we will not survive at this level for much longer. We currently have what the majority of us have always wanted, a businessman who wants to take this club forward and has the clout to do it.

Some say that they would prefer to play Division 2 football in front of crowds of 3,000 like the 'good' old days if it meant we had a blue shirt on the players back but the majority want the club to play and compete in top league football. To do that long term Cardiff City needs to appeal to a wider audience, to increase its marketing potential as astronomical player wages need to be sourced, everyone surely can understand that is absolutely essential.

Some of course hope a local sugar daddy will come in and subsidise players wages year on year. I would like to think we can compete at the top of the Premier league in years to come and with the likes of Arsenal paying wages of £140m a year, we aren't going to get a sugar daddy capable of covering costs like that and we are never ever going to generate sufficient income locally to enable us to compete at the top.

Tan is a clever businessman who obviously believes he can succeed in getting our club to appeal to a wider market and has serious connections in what will become the largest market in the world. I don't believe for one second he will ever take away our name or move the club away from Cardiff and if he ever did either of those things then I would walk, but I 100% understand the importance of brand and if he feels that a red shirt will appeal in the far east then who am I to argue.

Historically, we have changed name, shirt colour and ground and people will no doubt have protested against those changes. If we hadn't evolved we would still be Riverside playing local league football as a secondary sport behind cricket in a non-blue shirt.

Its essential that we evolve to survive, I can't believe for one second that there is anyone on this board who doesn't believe that. Tan has his ideas on how to evolve this business, if there is anyone on this board who can offer an alternative businessplan that involves a blue shirt and has money to burn then please come out of the shadows now. The reality is, as evidenced at the Brighton game, the majority of fans are prepared to go along with Tan's vision. Whilst I understand that some can't stomach a change of shirt colour or badge, to say that this is enough to make them stop loving the Club just does my head in, I will never understand that sorry

out of interest, why do you think it so necessary to spend a shedload of cash on players/wages to compete in the prem? qpr did, look where they are right now. portsmouth did, look where they are. same for leeds. villa have spent loads, theyre not in any great shakes.

yet west brom, stoke, ourselves, norwich all havent and we're looking pretty good no? you talk about wanting to compete - unfortunately i cant see any new clubs breaking the mould, and the way to do it would be through a sustained build up, not going shit or bust.

You are doing well and doing it just as you should be for a club your size as are west brom, stoke and norwich unlike the likes of qpr and portsmouth. None of these clubs are ever going to sustain top four football given their limited market and budget. Chelsea and Man City have acheived it through billionaire owners who no doubt are looking to grow their market as they will not want to pump millions after millions into the club. Man Utd, Liverpool and to a lessor extent Aresenal perhaps have gorwn their market already. My dream is to compete with the top four clubs on a regular basis and whilst we do have a wealthy owner he is not rich enough to cover wages of the players required to compete at that level so the wider market place is all important and I can see exactly what Tan is trying to achieve in the Far East