Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:32 am
Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:11 am
Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:55 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:I wasn't going to post in this, but some of the comments here are astounding.
I used to think that we were a "proper" football club, with old fashioned values and respect for the game. The majority of posts on here represent the new brand of glory football - who gives a f**k what colour we wear, were top of the league.
To some of us, the club means more to them than just a bit of success.
The identity of the club has been taken away & looks to be further stripped this summer. The traditions of this fine club have been disrespected and I'm dead against it.
Cardiff City may be top of the league & 7 points clear, but it's not the same Cardiff City I fell in love with on the bob bank as an 8 year old.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:03 am
welshrod wrote:Just looking at the CCFC shop online, only the Red and Black shirts appear on there now! No sign of the Blue ones.
I fear this rebranding has only just started .....
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:04 am
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Blame the bastards, the sell outs, the spineless majority and plastic fans that bought the red shirt in their droves. I have reluctantly accepted the rebrand but by f**k I can't for the life of me understand why people have gone out and bought a red shirt. It hurts me when I see fat men wearing a skimpy football shirt with a personalised name on the back but it kills me when I see they have bought the red shirt.
Why oh why.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:07 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Nonsense! We are fortunate to have a club to support these days he is a cracking chairman. A kit is a kit, a badge a badge, its the name that matters, the name and location!
Your favourite restaurant has new owners as the previous owners couldn't keep it running. The name of the restaurant stays the same, the location of the restaurant stays the same and the menu stays the same. With the new owners stepping in to keep the restaurant afloat, you're fortunate your favourite restaurant is still around, however, the new owners bring their own chefs in. These new chefs can't cook the food very well and your favourite meal in your favourite restaurant now tastes horrible. Your usual favourite meal now tasting horrendous means the experience of dining at this restaurant doesn't feel the same. Do you still continue going to this restaurant to eat because it's just the name that matters? From what you've said above, you're saying you would, but we all know that isn't true.
What I am saying is what VT has done, despite us still being Cardiff City, has partially ruined my experience of watching my local team.
Goodnight.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:25 am
hotwings wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Nonsense! We are fortunate to have a club to support these days he is a cracking chairman. A kit is a kit, a badge a badge, its the name that matters, the name and location!
Your favourite restaurant has new owners as the previous owners couldn't keep it running. The name of the restaurant stays the same, the location of the restaurant stays the same and the menu stays the same. With the new owners stepping in to keep the restaurant afloat, you're fortunate your favourite restaurant is still around, however, the new owners bring their own chefs in. These new chefs can't cook the food very well and your favourite meal in your favourite restaurant now tastes horrible. Your usual favourite meal now tasting horrendous means the experience of dining at this restaurant doesn't feel the same. Do you still continue going to this restaurant to eat because it's just the name that matters? From what you've said above, you're saying you would, but we all know that isn't true.
What I am saying is what VT has done, despite us still being Cardiff City, has partially ruined my experience of watching my local team.
Goodnight.
For that comparison to work the product on offer to us would have 2 have got worse. Has the football been any worse since we changed to red? If the food in your favourite restaurant was just as good or better but the design on the sign outside and the colours the restaurant has been painted were different would you stop going there?
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:33 am
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:37 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:Don't know about next season, but i was in the shop earlier this week to buy a blue shirt for my son. None were on display, & the sales assistant told me that because the blue shirt was third kit, that only a limited were produced for sale, & had subsequently all sold out, & that no more were being produced.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:42 am
kingdong wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Don't know about next season, but i was in the shop earlier this week to buy a blue shirt for my son. None were on display, & the sales assistant told me that because the blue shirt was third kit, that only a limited were produced for sale, & had subsequently all sold out, & that no more were being produced.
So there's no big secret ban the blue club. There's a real actual reason well that's a f*cking surprise
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:43 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:Don't know about next season, but i was in the shop earlier this week to buy a blue shirt for my son. None were on display, & the sales assistant told me that because the blue shirt was third kit, that only a limited were produced for sale, & had subsequently all sold out, & that no more were being produced.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:50 am
alfie sherwood wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Don't know about next season, but i was in the shop earlier this week to buy a blue shirt for my son. None were on display, & the sales assistant told me that because the blue shirt was third kit, that only a limited were produced for sale, & had subsequently all sold out, & that no more were being produced.
That really is a sad state of affairs. So much for the rebrand apologists bleating on at the start of the season that we were simply switching our home and away colours.
The club is in the process of having its identity entirely stripped away and still all we get from most of our fanbase is a mix of unofficial spokespeople for Vincent Tan and an awful lot of shoulder shrugging.
A year ago,I thought getting to the premiership would be wonderful for Cardiff City,a shot at the big time,rubbing shoulders with football's elite. I couldn't have been more wrong. If Cardiff City reach the top flight its will be a hollow victory indeed.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:51 am
Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:00 am
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Blame the bastards, the sell outs, the spineless majority and plastic fans that bought the red shirt in their droves. I have reluctantly accepted the rebrand but by f**k I can't for the life of me understand why people have gone out and bought a red shirt. It hurts me when I see fat men wearing a skimpy football shirt with a personalised name on the back but it kills me when I see they have bought the red shirt.
Why oh why.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:17 am
alfie sherwood wrote:hotwings wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Nonsense! We are fortunate to have a club to support these days he is a cracking chairman. A kit is a kit, a badge a badge, its the name that matters, the name and location!
Your favourite restaurant has new owners as the previous owners couldn't keep it running. The name of the restaurant stays the same, the location of the restaurant stays the same and the menu stays the same. With the new owners stepping in to keep the restaurant afloat, you're fortunate your favourite restaurant is still around, however, the new owners bring their own chefs in. These new chefs can't cook the food very well and your favourite meal in your favourite restaurant now tastes horrible. Your usual favourite meal now tasting horrendous means the experience of dining at this restaurant doesn't feel the same. Do you still continue going to this restaurant to eat because it's just the name that matters? From what you've said above, you're saying you would, but we all know that isn't true.
What I am saying is what VT has done, despite us still being Cardiff City, has partially ruined my experience of watching my local team.
Goodnight.
For that comparison to work the product on offer to us would have 2 have got worse. Has the football been any worse since we changed to red? If the food in your favourite restaurant was just as good or better but the design on the sign outside and the colours the restaurant has been painted were different would you stop going there?
If you think that a football club is comparable to a restaurant or a retail outlet or a brand of toothpaste,then I'm afraid that you are a football consumer and not a supporter.
A football club has a pull on a person that a restaurant could only dream of. Would you keep going back to a restaurant if the fayre on offer was frequently substandard and left you feeling disappointed? Of course not and the same applies to all manner of brands. If your football club is poor on the pitch,you keep attending.Results on the pitch are largely irrelevant.
Supporting a football club is ingrained,it is a part of who we are.
Don't kid yourself that colours,badges and nicknames don't matter in football. They do.They are fundamentals. Start slicing away at them and you end up with a football club,that may be successful,but one that has lost its soul.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:11 am
Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:24 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:I wasn't going to post in this, but some of the comments here are astounding.
I used to think that we were a "proper" football club, with old fashioned values and respect for the game. The majority of posts on here represent the new brand of glory football - who gives a f**k what colour we wear, were top of the league.
To some of us, the club means more to them than just a bit of success.
The identity of the club has been taken away & looks to be further stripped this summer. The traditions of this fine club have been disrespected and I'm dead against it.
Cardiff City may be top of the league & 7 points clear, but it's not the same Cardiff City I fell in love with on the bob bank as an 8 year old.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:28 am
kingdong wrote:welshrod wrote:Just looking at the CCFC shop online, only the Red and Black shirts appear on there now! No sign of the Blue ones.
I fear this rebranding has only just started .....
Really your basing all this on the club shop.
When have they ever had blue shirts on sale there f*cking useless.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:58 pm
Welshpaul wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Plastic??? Lol
Wake up folks Football 2013 is franchise FC so deal with it or follow elsewhere. Look around all succesful clubs and you see the same, granted the rebrand was drastic but is aimed at far east and revenue raising.
How many on here bemoaning the changes bought club merchandise regularly? Wore blue to games? How many arrived early at the club and bought food/drink in the stadium and out money in the club??
Truth is the higher you climb the cost rises, the club isn't covering outgoings with current revenue streams hencpe looking to pastures new.
Plastic?? No just a realist.
Your post just proves even further that you're a plastic. All you've gone on about in that post is about us needing to become franchise FC to be successful. Well personally, I put my clubs identity first before success and many others feel the same. I will not deal with this and follow elsewhere, I will not give in to you plastics who only care about watching successful football whatever colour/badge we have. All I care about is watching MY club who I grew up supporting and falling in love with and that's Cardiff City - the Bluebirds, WHATEVER THE LEVEL!
Same players, same manager, same stadium, same city, if you class the whole of a club as a kit colour and badge then im afraid your deluded.