SWANSEA V CARDIFF AT THE VETCH

They marched 3000 of you through the streets of Swansea post match in 91.It was only then you all grew a pair of bollocks and took it to us.You loved the numbers game,always did.Millwall the other day proves your not all cracked up to what you think when you got done on your own turf with smaller numbers.Every cardiff lad and his dog turned out in 91,looked pretty impressive,granted but when the numbers were equal or similar then you're nothing special.We met you in Barry at the side of that pub early 90's,we all took the train after the match.Numbers were equals yet no one got done as most of us froze on both sides,no OB about yet nobody would make the move.Says it all im afraid.Anyone who was there that day if they're honest enough will agree.

The Kings incident,The Swim Away,That friendly in August when we went to the Corporation and you locked all the doors and pulled the curtains,the Exchange,The Shuttle crew,all times when we've taken it to you yet the only time i can recall you getting on top was behind the North bank in 91 BEFORE the game when you ventured behind the North Bank and run 25-30 of our youngsters,myself included,but again with you having huge numbers and finding a small group of us.Tell a lie.The Welsh cup down the Vetch when you played Wrexham and there was a couple of hundred of us on the North bank,Wrexham had the East Stand and you had the West(Away end).A load of your older heads before the game did run 20 of our youth down past David Evans after you came off the train and marched up the High St and down Castle gardens.They were the only times i can recall you getting a result and i havent missed a derby match since 89.I'm not lying or making things up,im too old now for that,we've been done plenty of times in Swansea by Stoke,Boro,Hull even Hereford gave a few of us a good shoeing down here but honestly,you lot do like to think your the dogs bollocks,you may well have had results but the way you crack on about things you'd think you were invincible.

The fact we still get restrictions tell everyone we have a reputation more than most.

Here you are going on about numbers yet how much of an advantage did you have for your Swim Away. Also I recall us invading your pitch and one solo fan humping yoyr mascot, all this literally in your backyard. Are you saying we out numbered you on those occasions?

No,you didnt outnumber us but at the same time didnt do us either.The swim away was a chance meeting and all that happened was we chased you into the sea.No punches got thrown,just a load of CCFC swimming with the fishes Someone on here must have been there in Barry that day when the numbers were equal and at the Kings when again the numbers were equal and no plod present at first.You got smashed outside and inside the Kings and in Barry and on your own patch wouldn't come near us.Your claim to a result over us was 3000 of you walking through our town and smashing a window and turning a car over.You came on the North bank in the 80's and got smashed and some of your older lot admit it too and still carry the battle scars.Fair play for coming on our end but you was swiftly kicked out black and blue.You'll never give us any credit for anything,that's been established time and time again and we accept that.But we are your rivals so i guess you never would either way.Anyway,we've gone through this hundreds of times before and we all churn out the same old nonsense.Im old enough now to look back at it all fondly and we had some great times as youngsters with you lot but now it's all about what goes on on the pitch so i'll bow out gracefully as it's like groundhog day and all very childish now.Im as guilty as anyone btw See you all again next season .

They marched 3000 of you through the streets of Swansea post match in 91.It was only then you all grew a pair of bollocks and took it to us.You loved the numbers game,always did.Millwall the other day proves your not all cracked up to what you think when you got done on your own turf with smaller numbers.Every cardiff lad and his dog turned out in 91,looked pretty impressive,granted but when the numbers were equal or similar then you're nothing special.We met you in Barry at the side of that pub early 90's,we all took the train after the match.Numbers were equals yet no one got done as most of us froze on both sides,no OB about yet nobody would make the move.Says it all im afraid.Anyone who was there that day if they're honest enough will agree.

The Kings incident,The Swim Away,That friendly in August when we went to the Corporation and you locked all the doors and pulled the curtains,the Exchange,The Shuttle crew,all times when we've taken it to you yet the only time i can recall you getting on top was behind the North bank in 91 BEFORE the game when you ventured behind the North Bank and run 25-30 of our youngsters,myself included,but again with you having huge numbers and finding a small group of us.Tell a lie.The Welsh cup down the Vetch when you played Wrexham and there was a couple of hundred of us on the North bank,Wrexham had the East Stand and you had the West(Away end).A load of your older heads before the game did run 20 of our youth down past David Evans after you came off the train and marched up the High St and down Castle gardens.They were the only times i can recall you getting a result and i havent missed a derby match since 89.I'm not lying or making things up,im too old now for that,we've been done plenty of times in Swansea by Stoke,Boro,Hull even Hereford gave a few of us a good shoeing down here but honestly,you lot do like to think your the dogs bollocks,you may well have had results but the way you crack on about things you'd think you were invincible.

They didn't march Cardiff through the centre. Cardiff arranged to dodge the buses and made their way to the centre with the police trailing behind, went wherever they wanted and chased off groups of jacks on a number of occasions culminating in chasing about 1-150 outside Martha's (I believe). A handful did stand however.

Barry was 50/50 with a couple of flurries on both sides but no more.

Cardiff have always had more numbers but we can hardly be blamed for that and its by no means true that they've only wanted it when that was the case. The week or so following the 91 FA Cup game a handful (15-20) made it past the buses again and took it to you on Oystermouth Road with you having at least 150-200. Copped a few but held firm.

They marched 3000 of you through the streets of Swansea post match in 91.It was only then you all grew a pair of bollocks and took it to us.You loved the numbers game,always did.Millwall the other day proves your not all cracked up to what you think when you got done on your own turf with smaller numbers.Every cardiff lad and his dog turned out in 91,looked pretty impressive,granted but when the numbers were equal or similar then you're nothing special.We met you in Barry at the side of that pub early 90's,we all took the train after the match.Numbers were equals yet no one got done as most of us froze on both sides,no OB about yet nobody would make the move.Says it all im afraid.Anyone who was there that day if they're honest enough will agree.

The Kings incident,The Swim Away,That friendly in August when we went to the Corporation and you locked all the doors and pulled the curtains,the Exchange,The Shuttle crew,all times when we've taken it to you yet the only time i can recall you getting on top was behind the North bank in 91 BEFORE the game when you ventured behind the North Bank and run 25-30 of our youngsters,myself included,but again with you having huge numbers and finding a small group of us.Tell a lie.The Welsh cup down the Vetch when you played Wrexham and there was a couple of hundred of us on the North bank,Wrexham had the East Stand and you had the West(Away end).A load of your older heads before the game did run 20 of our youth down past David Evans after you came off the train and marched up the High St and down Castle gardens.They were the only times i can recall you getting a result and i havent missed a derby match since 89.I'm not lying or making things up,im too old now for that,we've been done plenty of times in Swansea by Stoke,Boro,Hull even Hereford gave a few of us a good shoeing down here but honestly,you lot do like to think your the dogs bollocks,you may well have had results but the way you crack on about things you'd think you were invincible.

They didn't march us through the centre. Cardiff arranged to dodge the buses and made their way to the centre with the police trailing behind, we went wherever we wanted and chased off groups of jacks on a number of occasions culminating in chasing about 1-150 outside Martha's (I believe). A handful did stand however.

Barry was 50/50 with a couple of flurries on both sides but no more.

We have always had more numbers but we can hardly be blamed for that and its by no means true that we've only wanted it when that was the case. The week or so following the 91 FA Cup game a handful of us (15-20) made it past the buses again and took it to you on Oystermouth Road with you having at least 150-200. Copped a few but held firm.

I was there on Oystermouth road and forgot about that to be honest.That was one of the few occasions we did actually get it on and have a ruck.Some of you lot were pulling out cricket bats Yes,that was a proper set to and both lads had a real go.

all very convenient what you do forget byssed or whatever u call yourslef.
you go on and on about all these events. swim away, ffs so you chased 20 pt blues into the sea, well done. the kings, who were they? all from bridgend and porthcawl?? the limo's? what happened there then? the corp well done for making it there but no-one was in there werre they? maybe 20? im sure if you were such a nasty bunch the plod would have wrapped you would they not?? im mean its quite a journey that so well done. Vaguely remember somehting about barry incident, no-one claiming otherwise are they? you prob did ok there. Was that the night game where you DID throw seats at kids? Sure, their dads might have been handy or ex lads but thats beside the point. So, when did 2 mobs ever battle it out properly? you know like the russians do? once. in 1991. i was only young but saw it all with my own eyes. there were many mobs of ccfc before the game, many had small battles.
after the game there were 2 main ones. we converged in the centre after initially running at each other, that was a weird one i tell you. I dont profess to be a hoolie and i was way back more scared of my own lot ordering us young ones around than i was of any jacks.... we saw you there...both mobs, no police...you ran and ran. many were left by the side as we made our way past....some bloodied , one or 2 crying and pleading. Many were just left though as you could see they had had enough....it was over. it wasnt our fault we had every man and his dog out is it...just aswell you never bumped into the main crew on all those other occasions you go on and on about....we let you off a few times hey

I only did the 80's and we use'd take over your town,when did you do that to us?you could have there was no restrictions back then.There was a jack moaning about 250 Cardiff fans chasing a jack through your city center the other day,that tells you all you need to know 250 fans strolling round your city unopposed.Where was the jack army,sleeping on the job as usual?

Cardiff in the streets of Swansea in 1991 after the game.
I loved going to the old Vetch, I have to admit great atmosphere from them as well.

Look at this picture, ffs a load of kids from cardiff big deal, oh im so scared

Cardiff in the streets of Swansea in 1991 after the game.
I loved going to the old Vetch, I have to admit great atmosphere from them as well.

Look at this picture, ffs a load of kids from cardiff big deal, oh im so scared

Why would you be scared of a picture 22 years old? Weird

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

Cardiff in the streets of Swansea in 1991 after the game.
I loved going to the old Vetch, I have to admit great atmosphere from them as well.

Look at this picture, ffs a load of kids from cardiff big deal, oh im so scared

Why would you be scared of a picture 22 years old? Weird

i wouldn't be scared if the fu*king lot of them turned up outside my front door.

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

They were hiding down in canton, to scared to go into theyre own city centre that day in 2006, and that's a fact.

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

I didn't see any spurs fans the numerous times we played down wembley, point being?

The day of the jacks-Barnsley play off final a load of jacks were drinking in the cayo on cathedral road around mid-day. There was a young Cardiff lad in there and he was getting some abuse from your lot, he chucked his pint over two of you and then left, went outside and phoned us in the kings. Twenty of us made our way through the side streets and as we came through the front doors of the cayo you lot legged it out the back through the beer garden and ran off towards sophia gardens. Plod lined canton bridge across the road, it was pedestrians only because of the match, and turned back any Cardiff who loked like lads, this is the truth, ask the old bill if you like, three of us managed to get through, probably because we were old bastards we met two mates in the old A and watched the game on tv with some Barnsley lads who didn't have tickets. After the match we were stood talking outside the bookies next to the old A when around eighty of your lot came up trinity street in an escort with a copper on a horse leading the way. As you got to st. johns church we saw you and called it on, some made an attempt to get to us, the copper turned his horse sideways to separate both sides, truthfully you could have got passed easily but didn't seem that keen maybe because of plod being there I don't know, but the five of us were up for it. The old bill turned you back down trinity street and marched you round the corner by Howells and put you in the then called glassworks pub. We came in there, five of us, ten minutes later, some of you recognized us from earlier and we made it known we were Cardiff, the chance was there but none of you took it, shortly after plod took you all out and walked you back to the station and put you on your train.

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

I didn't see any spurs fans the numerous times we played down wembley, point being?

Well I was quite disappointed, was looking forward to spotting one of these really hard Cardiff fans. Maybe they just exist in books i've never, and will never read.

Cardiff in the streets of Swansea in 1991 after the game.
I loved going to the old Vetch, I have to admit great atmosphere from them as well.

Look at this picture, ffs a load of kids from cardiff big deal, oh im so scared

Why would you be scared of a picture 22 years old? Weird

i wouldn't be scared if the fu*king lot of them turned up outside my front door.

Yes because you would mane sure you were out

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

So you need 40k whilst we need 40. Sounds about right

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

So you need 40k whilst we need 40. Sounds about right

Yea, possible, who knows, I just read these kind of threads to laugh at middle aged men trying to use the internet to win a fight, they probably ran away from 30 years ago.

The day of the jacks-Barnsley play off final a load of jacks were drinking in the cayo on cathedral road around mid-day. There was a young Cardiff lad in there and he was getting some abuse from your lot, he chucked his pint over two of you and then left, went outside and phoned us in the kings. Twenty of us made our way through the side streets and as we came through the front doors of the cayo you lot legged it out the back through the beer garden and ran off towards sophia gardens. Plod lined canton bridge across the road, it was pedestrians only because of the match, and turned back any Cardiff who loked like lads, this is the truth, ask the old bill if you like, three of us managed to get through, probably because we were old bastards we met two mates in the old A and watched the game on tv with some Barnsley lads who didn't have tickets. After the match we were stood talking outside the bookies next to the old A when around eighty of your lot came up trinity street in an escort with a copper on a horse leading the way. As you got to st. johns church we saw you and called it on, some made an attempt to get to us, the copper turned his horse sideways to separate both sides, truthfully you could have got passed easily but didn't seem that keen maybe because of plod being there I don't know, but the five of us were up for it. The old bill turned you back down trinity street and marched you round the corner by Howells and put you in the then called glassworks pub. We came in there, five of us, ten minutes later, some of you recognized us from earlier and we made it known we were Cardiff, the chance was there but none of you took it, shortly after plod took you all out and walked you back to the station and put you on your train.

Let me tell you a little story about that day we were drinking in the carpenters arms in llanrumney about 15 of us, and there was a couple of cardiff boys in there, when they left they stuck the fingers up, didn't say a word to us in the pub real hard men about 30 mins later they turned back up with about 15 to 20 others, none of us were hooligans, and waited for us to come outside, thinking they were going to do us, to cut a long story short, they ran like f*ck when they saw we were up for it, a couple of the pri*ks got done on a corner outside barclays bank near to to the carpenters arms.

I didn''t see any Cardiff fans when I, along with 40k Jacks invaded Cardiff for the playoff game against Barnsley. Oh, they were all in a pub cheering our failure.

So you need 40k whilst we need 40. Sounds about right

Yea, possible, who knows, I just read these kind of threads to laugh at middle aged men trying to use the internet to win a fight, they probably ran away from 30 years ago.

Fair enough!

It's because of all the nonsense written in the thread that brought about all seater stadiums, strict policing, non alcohol, new stadiums and ultimately re-branding.

Some of the so called fans are to blame.

You need to grow up.

The day of the jacks-Barnsley play off final a load of jacks were drinking in the cayo on cathedral road around mid-day. There was a young Cardiff lad in there and he was getting some abuse from your lot, he chucked his pint over two of you and then left, went outside and phoned us in the kings. Twenty of us made our way through the side streets and as we came through the front doors of the cayo you lot legged it out the back through the beer garden and ran off towards sophia gardens. Plod lined canton bridge across the road, it was pedestrians only because of the match, and turned back any Cardiff who loked like lads, this is the truth, ask the old bill if you like, three of us managed to get through, probably because we were old bastards we met two mates in the old A and watched the game on tv with some Barnsley lads who didn't have tickets. After the match we were stood talking outside the bookies next to the old A when around eighty of your lot came up trinity street in an escort with a copper on a horse leading the way. As you got to st. johns church we saw you and called it on, some made an attempt to get to us, the copper turned his horse sideways to separate both sides, truthfully you could have got passed easily but didn't seem that keen maybe because of plod being there I don't know, but the five of us were up for it. The old bill turned you back down trinity street and marched you round the corner by Howells and put you in the then called glassworks pub. We came in there, five of us, ten minutes later, some of you recognized us from earlier and we made it known we were Cardiff, the chance was there but none of you took it, shortly after plod took you all out and walked you back to the station and put you on your train.

Let me tell you a little story about that day we were drinking in the carpenters arms in llanrumney about 15 of us, and there was a couple of cardiff boys in there, when they left they stuck the fingers up, didn't say a word to us in the pub real hard men about 30 mins later they turned back up with about 15 to 20 others, none of us were hooligans, and waited for us to come outside, thinking they were going to do us, to cut a long story short, they ran like f*ck when they saw we were up for it, a

couple of the pri*ks got done on a corner outside barclays bank near to to the carpenters arms.

Your such a f*cking knob, why don't you just go and do one or show up you prick

the day of the barnsley game me and my aunty betty were roaming ely and we saw 200 of you outside a boozer we called it on and you lot were on your toes , we gave chase but luckily for you the charge had run out on her wheelchair or we would have taken the lot of you , the old bill didn't want to know either

Grown men arguing about who won a fight over 20 years ago?

Grown men arguing about who won a fight over 20 years ago?

Indeed.

The day of the jacks-Barnsley play off final a load of jacks were drinking in the cayo on cathedral road around mid-day. There was a young Cardiff lad in there and he was getting some abuse from your lot, he chucked his pint over two of you and then left, went outside and phoned us in the kings. Twenty of us made our way through the side streets and as we came through the front doors of the cayo you lot legged it out the back through the beer garden and ran off towards sophia gardens. Plod lined canton bridge across the road, it was pedestrians only because of the match, and turned back any Cardiff who loked like lads, this is the truth, ask the old bill if you like, three of us managed to get through, probably because we were old bastards we met two mates in the old A and watched the game on tv with some Barnsley lads who didn't have tickets. After the match we were stood talking outside the bookies next to the old A when around eighty of your lot came up trinity street in an escort with a copper on a horse leading the way. As you got to st. johns church we saw you and called it on, some made an attempt to get to us, the copper turned his horse sideways to separate both sides, truthfully you could have got passed easily but didn't seem that keen maybe because of plod being there I don't know, but the five of us were up for it. The old bill turned you back down trinity street and marched you round the corner by Howells and put you in the then called glassworks pub. We came in there, five of us, ten minutes later, some of you recognized us from earlier and we made it known we were Cardiff, the chance was there but none of you took it, shortly after plod took you all out and walked you back to the station and put you on your train.

Let me tell you a little story

Nah, you're alright

f**k still goin on about this shite your f*****g wimps to me anyway

Cardiff in the streets of Swansea in 1991 after the game.
I loved going to the old Vetch, I have to admit great atmosphere from them as well.

First away game was this one for me I was 11 city everywhere ,I remember there were loads locked outside ,loads of city in the main stand got the away bug after this one lol

f**k still goin on about this shite your f*****g wimps to me anyway

Nah, you're alright

f**k still goin on about this shite your f*****g wimps to me anyway

Are you Kidwelly jack also? Same shit comes out of your mouth. Like I said show up - or shut up.

They marched 3000 of you through the streets of Swansea post match in 91.It was only then you all grew a pair of bollocks and took it to us.You loved the numbers game,always did.Millwall the other day proves your not all cracked up to what you think when you got done on your own turf with smaller numbers.Every cardiff lad and his dog turned out in 91,looked pretty impressive,granted but when the numbers were equal or similar then you're nothing special.We met you in Barry at the side of that pub early 90's,we all took the train after the match.Numbers were equals yet no one got done as most of us froze on both sides,no OB about yet nobody would make the move.Says it all im afraid.Anyone who was there that day if they're honest enough will agree.

The Kings incident,The Swim Away,That friendly in August when we went to the Corporation and you locked all the doors and pulled the curtains,the Exchange,The Shuttle crew,all times when we've taken it to you yet the only time i can recall you getting on top was behind the North bank in 91 BEFORE the game when you ventured behind the North Bank and run 25-30 of our youngsters,myself included,but again with you having huge numbers and finding a small group of us.Tell a lie.The Welsh cup down the Vetch when you played Wrexham and there was a couple of hundred of us on the North bank,Wrexham had the East Stand and you had the West(Away end).A load of your older heads before the game did run 20 of our youth down past David Evans after you came off the train and marched up the High St and down Castle gardens.They were the only times i can recall you getting a result and i havent missed a derby match since 89.I'm not lying or making things up,im too old now for that,we've been done plenty of times in Swansea by Stoke,Boro,Hull even Hereford gave a few of us a good shoeing down here but honestly,you lot do like to think your the dogs bollocks,you may well have had results but the way you crack on about things you'd think you were invincible.

So what you are saying, your top boys went to Barry and you and local Cardiff fans froze.This is when you confronted us then,your big victory. Next time we go to yours we'll get our top boys to go to Kidwelly and confront the locals,what would the outcome be,would we claim a victory.