Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

All factual, all correct Nukes.

The sad thing is I'm starting to think they've already won. Too many useful idiots and too many who refused to see the truth that was always there in front of them.

As you know the whole thing is a lot bigger than BLM, the dots are there to connect for anyone who wants to see. The pattern just repeats over and over. Once you start to see the pattern you can pretty much call where it is going next.

The shock is added to the system, then it is slowly pulled back, but not entirely so its shadow remains as an ever-present reminder. Then when it is time for its return to the media cycle, to push the agenda further again, it is pulled back out. Two steps forward, one step back, rinse and repeat over and over and on multiple fronts.

BLM is being faded out for the moment, while the shadow it leaves, the taking of the knee as a 'gesture of solidarity' is redressed to be more benign but a constant reminder of the institutional racism that never really existed in the first place.

They've driven a narrative of racial division and now they are just going to keep a wedge in the door until it is time to push that particular set of buttons again and further divide us, further weaken our resolve.

Extinction Rebellion/ Climate Alarmism will be pushed back out to prominence in the coming months. More fear, more division, more suppression of dissenting voices, more mass media coverage, more virtue signalling, more freedoms being given away without so much of whimper.

Liberty will not be slain in the heat of battle, she will be killed slowly without most of us even noticing. Death by a thousand cuts, while the totalitarian tiptoe gets slightly bolder and bolder every year.

You can also look forward to major cyberattacks being the new flavour of fear in 2021 to be added into the mix. North Korea or Russia will likely be blamed.

Tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. When 6 companies control 90% of the media, it really isn't as hard as some might think to control the narrative.

Politics is downstream of culture and culture is shaped by the media.

I appreciate all you've done to try and make others aware of how much of a sham BLM is mate. Hopefully, at least a few people have started to see it for what it is and at least start asking some questions and doing some research for themselves. You're a good man

How was Khan allowed to politicise the NYE fireworks celebration with a BLM fist thereby supporting a clearly Marxist anti police and capitalist political group?
Why won’t the BBC and media bring him to task?

Khan has marxist leanings, rather like many in the Labour Party. It’s a losing position. I think ealing, more are aware of what’s going on, in discussions I have with people most daily.

Trump and Warnock do it, without the grovel.

Khan has marxist leanings, rather like many in the Labour Party. It’s a losing position. I think ealing, more are aware of what’s going on, in discussions I have with people most daily.

Trump and Warnock do it, without the grovel.

I hope your right buddy. Good to hear

Get in!!! Another Black Lives Matter thread!
I have changed my mind on the DISGUSTING and RACIST raised fist though Absolutely no place in society.

WHOOOOOSH..

and when you point upwards as it flies over your head....its not a nazi salute your doing either...

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

so it was coincidental that David Dorn lost his life in a random attack the same time as an ongoing BLM protestriot... it was and is disgusting... but had nowhere near the outrage or coverage that the media were giving the George Floydd inspired BLM protestriots... why ? how come a black man murdered on film trying to do good is not central to a cause called BLM.... you know why and its disgraceful...it was only ever BLACK lives matter if it benefitted the agenda and David Dorn didnt fit no matter how black he was or what a decent person he was.... and those that are prepared to brush it under a carpet or try to excuse it dont really believe black lives matter

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

so it was coincidental that David Dorn lost his life in a random attack the same time as an ongoing BLM protestriot... it was and is disgusting... but had nowhere near the outrage or coverage that the media were giving the George Floydd inspired BLM protestriots... why ? how come a black man murdered on film trying to do good is not central to a cause called BLM.... you know why and its disgraceful...it was only ever BLACK lives matter if it benefitted the agenda and David Dorn didnt fit no matter how black he was or what a decent person he was.... and those that are prepared to brush it under a carpet or try to excuse it dont really believe black lives matter

Mate I'm not sure if you're aware but there was widespread civil unrest across the US this year. It wasn't all orchestrated by Bill Clinton and Soros via BLM, It was a f*cking mess. Rioting, murder, looting etc etc.

I'm not sure why you're calling it a 'BLM protestriot' as it was a massive, decentralised riot across a whole city. I feel like you're massively oversimplifying the issue, whether purposefully or by oversight.

During riots in the US, there are people who go out, loot and kill.

Are you genuinely suggesting BLM had some direct involvement in the killing of David Dorn? If so please clarify.

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

so it was coincidental that David Dorn lost his life in a random attack the same time as an ongoing BLM protestriot... it was and is disgusting... but had nowhere near the outrage or coverage that the media were giving the George Floydd inspired BLM protestriots... why ? how come a black man murdered on film trying to do good is not central to a cause called BLM.... you know why and its disgraceful...it was only ever BLACK lives matter if it benefitted the agenda and David Dorn didnt fit no matter how black he was or what a decent person he was.... and those that are prepared to brush it under a carpet or try to excuse it dont really believe black lives matter

Mate I'm not sure if you're aware but there was widespread civil unrest across the US this year. It wasn't all orchestrated by Bill Clinton and Soros via BLM, It was a f*cking mess. Rioting, murder, looting etc etc.

I'm not sure why you're calling it a 'BLM protestriot' as it was a massive, decentralised riot across a whole city. I feel like you're massively oversimplifying the issue, whether purposefully or by oversight.

During riots in the US, there are people who go out, loot and kill.

Are you genuinely suggesting BLM had some direct involvement in the killing of David Dorn? If so please clarify.

ah right...not BLM it was a decentralised whatever you want to pretend it was.. unbelievable...

All factual, all correct Nukes.

The sad thing is I'm starting to think they've already won. Too many useful idiots and too many who refused to see the truth that was always there in front of them.

As you know the whole thing is a lot bigger than BLM, the dots are there to connect for anyone who wants to see. The pattern just repeats over and over. Once you start to see the pattern you can pretty much call where it is going next.

The shock is added to the system, then it is slowly pulled back, but not entirely so its shadow remains as an ever-present reminder. Then when it is time for its return to the media cycle, to push the agenda further again, it is pulled back out. Two steps forward, one step back, rinse and repeat over and over and on multiple fronts.

BLM is being faded out for the moment, while the shadow it leaves, the taking of the knee as a 'gesture of solidarity' is redressed to be more benign but a constant reminder of the institutional racism that never really existed in the first place.

They've driven a narrative of racial division and now they are just going to keep a wedge in the door until it is time to push that particular set of buttons again and further divide us, further weaken our resolve.

Extinction Rebellion/ Climate Alarmism will be pushed back out to prominence in the coming months. More fear, more division, more suppression of dissenting voices, more mass media coverage, more virtue signalling, more freedoms being given away without so much of whimper.

Liberty will not be slain in the heat of battle, she will be killed slowly without most of us even noticing. Death by a thousand cuts, while the totalitarian tiptoe gets slightly bolder and bolder every year.

You can also look forward to major cyberattacks being the new flavour of fear in 2021 to be added into the mix. North Korea or Russia will likely be blamed.

Tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. When 6 companies control 90% of the media, it really isn't as hard as some might think to control the narrative.

Politics is downstream of culture and culture is shaped by the media.

I appreciate all you've done to try and make others aware of how much of a sham BLM is mate. Hopefully, at least a few people have started to see it for what it is and at least start asking some questions and doing some research for themselves. You're a good man

Thank you chief

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Regarding David Dorn...

Dorn was killed during a BLM riot shortly after the killing of Floyd. Was he specifically targeted to die? No.

Was he just a good guy, doing the right thing and in the wrong place at the wrong time? Yes.

Was it murder? Yes

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Did the founders of BLM specifically say go kill David Dorn? NO.

Did BLM perpetuate violent rhetoric when whipping up 'civil unrest' with chants like pigs in blanket/fry em like bacon, all cops are bastards, and the only good cop is a dead cop? Yes

Can incitement to murder be equivalent to murder? Yes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... se-offence

Would David Dorn have died that night if it wasn't for the BLM riot? No


It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to claim that BLM had nothing to do with the riots during which Dorn was murdered. Especially given the proximity to Floyd's death.

But you will only see what you want to see.

You're not just missing something, your missing everything, but I think deep down you probably know that.

The extreme left know they’ll never be elected democratically so they need societal division to seize power. Sadly Marxist filth have overtaken our universities and as Hitler said, control the youth control the future. Under the guise of Critical Theory they have actually reintroduced racial segregation, yet those who claim socialist credentials actually support support them.

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Regarding David Dorn...

Dorn was killed during a BLM riot shortly after the killing of Floyd. Was he specifically targeted to die? No.

Was he just a good guy, doing the right thing and in the wrong place at the wrong time? Yes.

Was it murder? Yes

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Did the founders of BLM specifically say go kill David Dorn? NO.

Did BLM perpetuate violent rhetoric when whipping up 'civil unrest' with chants like pigs in blanket/fry em like bacon, all cops are bastards, and the only good cop is a dead cop? Yes

Can incitement to murder be equivalent to murder? Yes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... se-offence

Would David Dorn have died that night if it wasn't for the BLM riot? No


It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to claim that BLM had nothing to do with the riots during which Dorn was murdered. Especially given the proximity to Floyd's death.

But you will only see what you want to see.

You're not just missing something, your missing everything, but I think deep down you probably know that.

I think you’re pissin inthe wind, debating withJosh is like talking about a boy band with a prepubescent girl, or football with a Celtic fan, they simply won’t hear a bad word against they’re heroes.

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Have you looked into the source you've used there mate? They're a shocking source to use. However I think what the article is trying to do is frame black lives matter as a 'movement' not an organisation (Which to be fair is correct, it's a very loosely affiliated movement not some kind of exclusive club where everyone gets together and plots to take over the world via making players kneel briefly at EFL matches).

Anyway by framing it as a 'movement' they are suggesting that the open society donating to black causes (in this case black-led justice organisations) https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ ... ommunities equates to donating to the 'black lives matter movement'.

The open society didn't donate a penny to 'black lives matter' as an organisation, if you can correct me on that please do.

Regarding David Dorn...

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Really??? They were robbing a shop not marching under the banner of anything? You do realise everyone that went out that night wasn't 'marching under the name of BLM'?

like talking about a boy band with a prepubescent girl.

Yeah I'd probably stop doing that if I were you mate..

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Regarding David Dorn...

Dorn was killed during a BLM riot shortly after the killing of Floyd. Was he specifically targeted to die? No.

Was he just a good guy, doing the right thing and in the wrong place at the wrong time? Yes.

Was it murder? Yes

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Did the founders of BLM specifically say go kill David Dorn? NO.

Did BLM perpetuate violent rhetoric when whipping up 'civil unrest' with chants like pigs in blanket/fry em like bacon, all cops are bastards, and the only good cop is a dead cop? Yes

Can incitement to murder be equivalent to murder? Yes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... se-offence

Would David Dorn have died that night if it wasn't for the BLM riot? No


It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to claim that BLM had nothing to do with the riots during which Dorn was murdered. Especially given the proximity to Floyd's death.

But you will only see what you want to see.

You're not just missing something, your missing everything, but I think deep down you probably know that.

Yet again outstanding research chief and very well put that even those that think BLM are just promoting a good cause can actually see.
To be fair I wish I had your flair of getting a point across

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Have you looked into the source you've used there mate? They're a shocking source to use. However I think what the article is trying to do is frame black lives matter as a 'movement' not an organisation (Which to be fair is correct, it's a very loosely affiliated movement not some kind of exclusive club where everyone gets together and plots to take over the world via making players kneel briefly at EFL matches).

Anyway by framing it as a 'movement' they are suggesting that the open society donating to black causes (in this case black-led justice organisations) https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ ... ommunities equates to donating to the 'black lives matter movement'.

The open society didn't donate a penny to 'black lives matter' as an organisation, if you can correct me on that please do.

Regarding David Dorn...

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Really??? They were robbing a shop not marching under the banner of anything? You do realise everyone that went out that night wasn't 'marching under the name of BLM'?

Then why hadn’t BLM denounced the slaying of David Dorn ? Where is the riots the protests for David Dorn ? You can stick your head in the sand and say it had nothing to do with BLM but you are lying to yourself. BLM don’t care about black lives only there own agenda. True story bro

Why don't BLM mention the thousands of black men and women being murdered in the Sudan, Somalia or Nigeria.Why don't the students in this country protest against the human rights violations in Saudi Arabia? They hate being British when it comes down to it. Same as Antifa who are a collection of people that were bullied at school

Cracking response there Josh glad you took my post apart with fact or pointing what i got wrong. Yes Trump,did it but no ideology behind it, Warnock did it no ideology behind it. So now you will tell me the players doing it has no message behind it ? Are you denying it’s a Black Power symbol ?
Now that was mentioned in a very small part about the fist pump. Will you now try pulling the facts apart ? Now if you are going to make your point at least say what part of what I wrote is in fact untrue
Or if it’s ohh my lord another take the knee post why don’t you just happily scroll past ? Or do what I governor done and place me on his ignore list ? He done it for me telling the truth as others backed me up in what I said was fact. But some people do not like the truth it kinds of fucks up their day, so much easier to call someone a conspiracy theorist and stick there fingers in there ears instead of thinking is there any truth in what he is saying ?

Just a joke. Calm down dear x.

But if you want a proper answer I'll give it now:

"But to make a balanced view." Quick note first, please look up what a balanced argument is.

Firstly, can you name one piece of law they have inspired that is to do with any of their 'aims'? No. Do you look up the political opinions of every other organisation? What does the founder of cancer research think about congestion charge or what does KFCs ceo think about climate change? One rule for one it seems.

"Many more people Black and White was also murdered in these protests including children." Which children may I ask?

" even though over 1 Million was raised by supporters there is no information how this was spent." Here you go: "provide funding in the form of grants to community groups and campaign organisations” and “organise events and … deliver educational resources and learning on the issues of racism and discrimination that affect black African and Caribbean communities”.

" Hundreds of years ago gangs from Africa used to raid the Cornwall coast to take white people back to Africa" Do you think locals would like a statue of one of them?

"They are not interested in Black people being murdered by other blacks". Aren't they? Or is it because Floyd is their figurehead and its easier to focus on one rather than list however many others? I suppose it's similar to the All lives matter bunch who don't appear to talk about white on white violence. Funny that.

The funding appears to have been discussed earlier so I'll leave that.

"The players have the right to take the knee say many but supporters have no freedoms to object." You pay to go to their property and watch them. You can object however much you want but if you go their 'business' then they can tell you to f off if they want.

" But what is worse is the Black Power fist pump being done by a lot of players" 'There's no ideology behind it'. Could it be a raised fist used for 100s of years against fascists or could it be a black power sign? I assume it's because black people are doing it that you've decided it's the latter.

And now we come to the boogeyman that is Marxism. I bet if you and all the people who said 'I'm only booing because of marxism' combined to pool your knowledge of Marxism and Marxist theory you'd only get enough to cover a small water biscuit.

The most concerning part of this is how you've been groomed to such an extent against Black lives matter that you 'humorously' post a picture of Hamilton being beheaded because he supports it. What % of posts from the news you see is actually positive? From my glance at your chum Martins page it seems like he's not posted one ever. Maybe get off negative news for a few days.

Whose Michael Walters
https://global247news.com/2021/01/03/fo ... e-pending/

Nukes didn't write the article Michael Walters did.Follow the link.
Why claim you've written an article when clearly you havn't.?

All factual, all correct Nukes.

Maybe I'm missing something but -

BLM And Antifa are funded by the open Society...they are funded so they will do as they are told by there paymasters and that is where to protest where to loot and even when to murder.

As it's 'factual' that BLM and antifa are funded by the open society where is the evidence of this. I'm guessing as it's 'factual' you've also seen evidence that these open society funded orgs are willing to murder at the command of their 'paymasters' (the Clintons + Soros).

they even murdered live on Facebook a retired Black police officer David Dorn because he was trying to stop his friend’s store from being attacked by a mob of BLM supporters.

The guy was murdered during riots in the USA, but as it's 'factual' that it was BLM that killed David Dorn not some random murderer/looter can you please give some evidence of this?

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Regarding David Dorn...

Dorn was killed during a BLM riot shortly after the killing of Floyd. Was he specifically targeted to die? No.

Was he just a good guy, doing the right thing and in the wrong place at the wrong time? Yes.

Was it murder? Yes

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Did the founders of BLM specifically say go kill David Dorn? NO.

Did BLM perpetuate violent rhetoric when whipping up 'civil unrest' with chants like pigs in blanket/fry em like bacon, all cops are bastards, and the only good cop is a dead cop? Yes

Can incitement to murder be equivalent to murder? Yes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... se-offence

Would David Dorn have died that night if it wasn't for the BLM riot? No


It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to claim that BLM had nothing to do with the riots during which Dorn was murdered. Especially given the proximity to Floyd's death.

But you will only see what you want to see.

You're not just missing something, your missing everything, but I think deep down you probably know that.

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others. Share your proof.

The others on this thread who reckon he was killed by BLM would make that assumption even if Dorn was killed by white cops that night and as such, they are not worth replying to. Their agenda is clear to see

How was Khan allowed to politicise the NYE fireworks celebration with a BLM fist thereby supporting a clearly Marxist anti police and capitalist political group?
Why won’t the BBC and media bring him to task?

Awwww. Poor little snowflake! Did the fireworks upset you? I love how triggered the right are by a fireworks display of all things! Pure comedy gold!

Have you looked into the source you've used there mate? They're a shocking source to use. However I think what the article is trying to do is frame black lives matter as a 'movement' not an organisation (Which to be fair is correct, it's a very loosely affiliated movement not some kind of exclusive club where everyone gets together and plots to take over the world via making players kneel briefly at EFL matches).

Anyway by framing it as a 'movement' they are suggesting that the open society donating to black causes (in this case black-led justice organisations) https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ ... ommunities equates to donating to the 'black lives matter movement'.

The open society didn't donate a penny to 'black lives matter' as an organisation, if you can correct me on that please do.

To be honest, Washinton Times was first I came across relating to investment from 2016 (as most search results are related to 2020) although I'll admit it has a right-leaning bias.

A decent take on it, from a source that a) is far-left leaning (so coming from an alternative perspective than mine, which is centre left socially and centre-right fiscally) is on the link below. It is an interesting take because it attacks BLM essentially for using the tools of capitalism while pretending to be socialist.

An interesting read that feels more validated today than it was when it was written, and while coming from a very different political perspective identifies the issues many on the right (including myself) see in BLM

It's a long read but the closing paragraphs sum it up neatly

In response to the upheavals of the late 1960s, a section of the ruling class sought to cultivate a base of support among the more privileged sections of minorities that would be loyal to the status quo. As a result of policies such as affirmative action, social inequality among African-Americans has soared, with a small elite holding positions of power in corporate America and the state. This found its apotheosis in the election of Barack Obama to preside as president over a historic transfer of wealth to the financial aristocracy following the Wall Street crash of 2008.

These social transformations are reflected in the political outlook of the Black Lives Matter movement, which is devoid of any genuine element of social protest or democratic struggle. The agenda of these organizations, as underscored by the support of groups like the Ford Foundation, has nothing to do with the real social and economic grievances of millions of workers and young people of any race or ethnicity. They speak for highly privileged sections of the middle class who are fighting over the distribution of wealth within the top 10 percent of the population.

In the face of rising popular opposition to war, police violence and social inequality, the decision to advance the racialist program of Black Lives Matter is aimed at dividing the working class and preventing the emergence of an independent and unified working class movement against the capitalist system.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/1 ... s-o11.html

Ultimately, the Open Society is notoriously clever in obfuscating their investments and Anitfa/BLMas 'horizontal' organisations are equally well adapt at hiding both their donors and where their money is going (beyond bland blanket statements like 'to good causes to promote and empower black communities'). So in that sense, you're absolutely correct, the very explicit direct link may not be there. Like I said in my first post, the dots are there to be connected, but there are an awful lot of them and some can see the patterns, others can't or won't.

Really??? They were robbing a shop not marching under the banner of anything? You do realise everyone that went out that night wasn't 'marching under the name of BLM'?

Again a choice of perspective, were the riots and off-shoot of the protests? I'd say yes and I would say that BLM were integral to driving the anger. They stoked the tensions and deliberately lit the fuse and then sat back while America tore itself apart.

If you had stopped and asked those looters why they were looting I'm fairly sure you would have heard the words black lives matter, reparations and white supremacy within the first few sentences. Who put those words in their mouths? Who gave them justification in their violence?

I suppose the ultimate question is would the looting have happened without the BLM protests? I would say no, clearly you disagree, but that is your right to do so and I respect that

some of the right wing nonsense on here is embarrassing, Cardiff City is a club followed by people of all colours . Jesus Christ its like a Swansea bnp loyalist get together .

Whose Michael Walters
https://global247news.com/2021/01/03/fo ... e-pending/

Nukes didn't write the article Michael Walters did.Follow the link.
Why claim you've written an article when clearly you havn't.?

Wrong wrong wrong I wrote it that name at the top I have no idea of it. Now I wrote and talked to the editor then he took what I said and added a bit more for his story.
No I wrote it fella 100% so don’t make a fool of yourself you can clearly see my grammar mistakes as well which proves it was me. Now I don’t lie and if I didn’t write it I would of said.

How can someone who claims to be educated make the leap from Out and Out criminals who murdered an innocent Black man to people being BLM protesters?

I've never claimed to be educated. I am working class, started at the bottom of the career ladder and worked my way up. Twice.

I am admittedly well-read and reasonably articulate, but that is nothing to do with any university education.

Do you think that these looters may have used the BLM protest as an opportunity to go looting? They didn't need to be members or supporters of BLM to do what they did. Do you think he was killed because he was an ex cop or do you think that anyone who tried to intervene would have been shot?

I've just addressed most of this in my last post, so won't repeat myself just refer you to that one, but no, I don't think it is a stretch to think that without the BLM protests the looting and riots would have happened. It makes me think of that viral clip of the CNN reporter telling us that the protests were mostly peaceful while the building on fire in the background was the police station.

To my mind, the protests and the riots were inextricably linked.

Unless you have proof that the murderers were there to protest alongside BLM protesters then its stretching credulity to associate them with BLM.

Let's take your argument here for just one minute and apply the logic in both directions.

Why was George Floyd's death an example of a racist murder? Can you prove Derek Chauvin intended to kill him in a premeditated way or was it over-zealous restraint so not murder but manslaughter? Can you prove that Chauvin did what he did (which I condone in the most strongest of terms) because he was racist? Unless you have proof that Chauvin deliberately killed Floyd and did so because he was black then the whole BLM narrative of 2020 falls apart.

Seeing as this was the catalyst for everything else that follows, I would say perhaps you should share your proof on this first, and then we will have a reasonable foundation to resolve the problems that come next, otherwise, when everything else is built on a lie, it is hard to put trust in any other arguments put forward from either side.

This is a problem in society that people think its right to pigeonhole and label others.

I agree.

Shame you couldn't live to your own standards though when you felt you had the right to pigeonhole and label me as 'a sad individual consumed by your own hatred of decency and fearful of anybody who calls you out' because I said that racial segregation was a bad thing

some of the right wing nonsense on here is embarrassing, Cardiff City is a club followed by people of all colours . Jesus Christ its like a Swansea bnp loyalist get together .

Now what part is nonsense ? The truth now I know the left hate the truth but if this is your only response then I don’t think you win any of the debate.

2016 reporting that George Soros Open Society foundation donated to BLM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016 ... eral-foun/

Have you looked into the source you've used there mate? They're a shocking source to use. However I think what the article is trying to do is frame black lives matter as a 'movement' not an organisation (Which to be fair is correct, it's a very loosely affiliated movement not some kind of exclusive club where everyone gets together and plots to take over the world via making players kneel briefly at EFL matches).

Anyway by framing it as a 'movement' they are suggesting that the open society donating to black causes (in this case black-led justice organisations) https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ ... ommunities equates to donating to the 'black lives matter movement'.

The open society didn't donate a penny to 'black lives matter' as an organisation, if you can correct me on that please do.

Regarding David Dorn...

Were those that killed him marching under the name of BLM at the time? Yes.

Really??? They were robbing a shop not marching under the banner of anything? You do realise everyone that went out that night wasn't 'marching under the name of BLM'?

So if football hooligans are fighting and you say disgraceful of those supporters and I said what proof you have they are hooligans actually fighting you would say flaming hell chief that is obvious lol

Get in!!! Another Black Lives Matter thread!
I have changed my mind on the DISGUSTING and RACIST raised fist though Absolutely no place in society.

Trump may be a racist I have never heard him say anything but BLM are the ultimate racists and any buffoon who supports them is a foolish degenerate.

Unfortunately we have a cuck generation who have never been taught how to think but what to think.

all encouraged by the elites who love to divide and rule.

Get in!!! Another Black Lives Matter thread!
I have changed my mind on the DISGUSTING and RACIST raised fist though Absolutely no place in society.

Trump may be a racist I have never heard him say anything but BLM are the ultimate racists and any buffoon who supports them is a foolish degenerate.

Unfortunately we have a cuck generation who have never been taught how to think but what to think.

all encouraged by the elites who love to divide and rule.

And you're any different....?

And what's a 'cuck' generation?