' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Paul the truth is they don't know what they want,reality is their becoming a joke.Its a celebratory march,it's a history march,or is it an identity march,it's an anti vt march or is it a anti rebranding march.It's a celebration of a bluebird,whatever that is.
Bu want his money but not him.
It's an embarrassment that's what it is.

Sounds like you like the sound of your own voice, but the answer to your questions are here:

A march celebrating who we are and our History- IDENTITY – Pride.

Are you not proud of Cardiff City FC? You ashamed of the bluebird mr Red or Dead?

http://bluebirdsunite.org.uk/wp/

I'm ashamed of you lot that's for sure.
And the majority of Cardiff City fans agree with me.

To paraphrase Johnny Cash, it's good to be ashamed of by the right people.

From what I've read of your posts, if you don't agree with Bluebirds Unite, then they must be doing something right.

See my above post. If you love the Bluebird, you have nothing to fear.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

Paul the truth is they don't know what they want,reality is their becoming a joke.Its a celebratory march,it's a history march,or is it an identity march,it's an anti vt march or is it a anti rebranding march.It's a celebration of a bluebird,whatever that is.
Bu want his money but not him.
It's an embarrassment that's what it is.

Sounds like you like the sound of your own voice, but the answer to your questions are here:

A march celebrating who we are and our History- IDENTITY – Pride.

Are you not proud of Cardiff City FC? You ashamed of the bluebird mr Red or Dead?

http://bluebirdsunite.org.uk/wp/

I'm ashamed of you lot that's for sure.
And the majority of Cardiff City fans agree with me.

To paraphrase Johnny Cash, it's good to be ashamed of by the right people.

From what I've read of your posts, if you don't agree with Bluebirds Unite, then they must be doing something right.

See my above post. If you love the Bluebird, you have nothing to fear.

You sound bitter.
I think what hurts you most is that the majority of fans don't agree with you and never will.Get used to it because that's the way it is.

Paul the truth is they don't know what they want,reality is their becoming a joke.Its a celebratory march,it's a history march,or is it an identity march,it's an anti vt march or is it a anti rebranding march.It's a celebration of a bluebird,whatever that is.
Bu want his money but not him.
It's an embarrassment that's what it is.

Sounds like you like the sound of your own voice, but the answer to your questions are here:

A march celebrating who we are and our History- IDENTITY – Pride.

Are you not proud of Cardiff City FC? You ashamed of the bluebird mr Red or Dead?

http://bluebirdsunite.org.uk/wp/

I'm ashamed of you lot that's for sure.
And the majority of Cardiff City fans agree with me.

To paraphrase Johnny Cash, it's good to be ashamed of by the right people.

From what I've read of your posts, if you don't agree with Bluebirds Unite, then they must be doing something right.

See my above post. If you love the Bluebird, you have nothing to fear.

You sound bitter.
I think what hurts you most is that the majority of fans don't agree with you and never will.Get used to it because that's the way it is.

Proud mate, not bitter.

Proud of the bluebird. Try it.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Exactly my point earlier. There are no winners with a march on such an occasion...

The Press will have a field day (at our club's expense) and BU (I'm afraid) will gain nothing positive from it

I am neither anti-blue (as I keep saying) or anti-BU in principle and I appreciate why it was set up by Sian but (and this is only my opinion) the group have been hi-jacked by others with selfish and more sinister motives and have (and I am afraid I include Sian in this) managed to make some pretty daft public statements; particularly when aimed at those who might no entirely agree with their motives. BU don't appear to have time for anyone who disagrees with them, even though I cannot say I have seen the same amount of vitriol aimed at them

It's a bit like watching a Government besmirch a Union or workers group in order to ensure the public at large actually believe in the hype that is being put out via a willing media. I've seen it all before and that is why I believe the march won't work

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

What assumption? Why would media report March as a celebration? Just because BU says it is a celebration doesnt mean everyone else will as well. Like said deluded if anyone thinks it will only be seen as a celebration! Its patently obvious it will be seen as a protest by media just because it's good story, there is no story otherwise.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

What assumption? Why would media report March as a celebration? Just because BU says it is a celebration doesnt mean everyone else will as well. Like said deluded if anyone thinks it will only be seen as a celebration! Its patently obvious it will be seen as a protest by media just because it's good story, there is no story otherwise.

Allan unless you have a top job within the media then you do not have a clue on how its going to be covered. So in other words you are assuming the worst like many others when it comes to anything BU do

Got to say this but there are some drama queens.

You get the impression its going to be like Beirut come the Man City game.

March to the ground and watch the game. That's should be the only marching going on. Cardiff City are playing. Remember we are Cardiff City.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

What assumption? Why would media report March as a celebration? Just because BU says it is a celebration doesnt mean everyone else will as well. Like said deluded if anyone thinks it will only be seen as a celebration! Its patently obvious it will be seen as a protest by media just because it's good story, there is no story otherwise.

Allan unless you have a top job within the media then you do not have a clue on how its going to be covered. So in other words you are assuming the worst like many others when it comes to anything BU do

Ok you tell me why the media will report it as a celebration? It will be reported that's not in doubt.
By way no interest in BU or what it does

It's irrelevant how many fans stay in the pub now Adam as the stadium is full now for the new season. If the rest of the die hards in the thread had stayed away then maybe Tan would have seen the light and changed us back to blue.

The BU are fully entitled to have a march, it's not as if they will have more than a thousand and it will not distrupt Tan, the club or most importantly the players. If it pisses you off so much then ignore it. I'll be enjoying my pre match pint in Canton with friends who are there to watch our football team. I will not be getting angry at Tan and I will certainly not be getting angry with those angry with Tan.

At the end of the day... The media will be looking at the team and BU during their peaceful march.
The fans who just turn up to the games in red aren't even going to get noticed compared to the amount of fans who will arrive at the game in blue, who chant blue songs, wave blue flags and hit blue balloons...

Tan has said that "too much negativity - too long isn't good"... I agree with that. The divide between our fans is very negative and if the pro-blues aren't backing down over their identity and the pro-reds not backing down over top flight football then it doesn't take a genius to work out the fact that this negativity isn't coming to an end any time soon.

600 people came to the meeting in Canton a while back so anything around that mark taking part in the celebration walk is excellent.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

What assumption? Why would media report March as a celebration? Just because BU says it is a celebration doesnt mean everyone else will as well. Like said deluded if anyone thinks it will only be seen as a celebration! Its patently obvious it will be seen as a protest by media just because it's good story, there is no story otherwise.

Allan unless you have a top job within the media then you do not have a clue on how its going to be covered. So in other words you are assuming the worst like many others when it comes to anything BU do

Ok you tell me why the media will report it as a celebration? It will be reported that's not in doubt.

You know what..? I don't have a clue but look forward to see how they report it. However to make such comments is just scaremongering as you have no proof whatsoever

I wont be attending the march but can someone explain how this march could 'damage' the Club?!
Is the Canton End going to fall to pieces because of a march?

Will VT care? Will he f**k!
He'll just dig his heels in further

If any of you think it would effect the players then you're wrong

If the cameras follow and broadcast/share the march, then no doubt it would gain a lot of respect from the majority of Football

Like I said, I will be having a few pre match drinks and if people want to march, let them

Personally I don't agree with a protest, and think it is slightly disrespectful to Tan after all he has done for us, but if people do want to protest, then so be it. Good luck to them, hopefully they will not cause any major problems or mke any childish statements and will get a point across, as I am sure Sky etc will be all over it.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

What assumption? Why would media report March as a celebration? Just because BU says it is a celebration doesnt mean everyone else will as well. Like said deluded if anyone thinks it will only be seen as a celebration! Its patently obvious it will be seen as a protest by media just because it's good story, there is no story otherwise.

Allan unless you have a top job within the media then you do not have a clue on how its going to be covered. So in other words you are assuming the worst like many others when it comes to anything BU do

Ok you tell me why the media will report it as a celebration? It will be reported that's not in doubt.

You know what..? I don't have a clue but look forward to see how they report it. However to make such comments is just scaremongering as you have no proof whatsoever

Not scaremongering at all. I hope it's reported at what its suppose to be. But honestly you'd have to be naive to think it will be reported that way, and don't need to be expert on the media to know that bad news is better than ordinary news! and it's just an opinion nothing more nothing less.

Many fans of other teams think we've been spineless over the rebrand. If nothing else the march will show we're not spineless and do care about our identity. I think our colours are worth fighting for while I also appreciate the many excellent things Tan has done for the club.

Many fans of other teams think we've been spineless over the rebrand. If nothing else the march will show we're not spineless and do care about our identity. I think our colours are worth fighting for while I also appreciate the many excellent things Tan has done for the club.

Well said

History identity pride all worth celebrating, of course in BLUE as we are the BLUEBIRDS

Many fans of other teams think we've been spineless over the rebrand. If nothing else the march will show we're not spineless and do care about our identity. I think our colours are worth fighting for while I also appreciate the many excellent things Tan has done for the club.

Couldn't care less what other clubs fans think of us.

A storm in a tea cup. As I said to the bloke who tried to pinch my trainers when I was on the bounces castle "grow up".

Many fans of other teams think we've been spineless over the rebrand. If nothing else the march will show we're not spineless and do care about our identity. I think our colours are worth fighting for while I also appreciate the many excellent things Tan has done for the club.

Couldn't care less what other clubs fans think of us.

Good for you.
Problem is, I and a lot of others agree with a lot of other fans comments/banter, and that's why we care.

A storm in a tea cup. As I said to the bloke who tried to pinch my trainers when I was on the bounces castle "grow up".

You told some guy who was nicking your trainers to grow up?

It's all over Facebook at the moment with many different Facebook groups advertising it .

This march is starting to worry me , if tan sees Cardiff city ( his buisness ) live on tv in our first ever premier league home game which is being beamed around the world , being overshadowed in the buildup by a protest march against him , I've got a bad feeling he may well push him to far . This march could make bigger problems than people realise . He has allready hinted IMO during a recent interview that if he is not appreciated or wanted he will go , this march will prove the tipping point IMO and he will see it as an insult to all the hard work he has put into the club .
Now I'm no rebrand fan at all but you have to be fair the guy has pretty much done everything he said he would so far .

Langstone paid off
Stadium capacity increase
New training ground
Big name players
Premier league football
Steady finances at the club and debt free

Now I'm a pro blue and would rather be in blue but , this march needs serious consideration before it is held on this day .
What other owner will come in and buy tan out ?
I'm pretty sure the price will be over 100mill now after all he's put into the club
Will new owners have the same vision and want to increase the stadium further or complete a new training ground ?
Will they spend big money on players or just reap the benefits of the prem for a season or two then f**k off ?

Personally I think it's better the devil we know with tan who is undoubtably the most successful owner we have ever had than some other guy who could cripple the club in the long run and put us back where we were a few years ago !

Bluebirds unite should be concentrating on getting tan to listen or talk and getting people to wear blue at games not marches on probably one of the biggest days in the clubs history .

This march is a BAD idea and will have a detrimental effect on the season IMO .

What an absolute load of bollocks this thread is.
At least 4 usernames are roath magic and this Barnett creep and the rest is madeup of people arguing with chuckles which we all know is a lost cause

It's a shame because most of the first page of posters were coming out with valid points, whether it be for or against the OP, but as soon as the Chuckmeister gets involved it degenerates into exactly what you state.

Not my fault that people cannot answer my point about Tan and his direct quote.

This was a good post with good debate until it was Chuckled off the rails.

Paul the truth is they don't know what they want,reality is their becoming a joke.Its a celebratory march,it's a history march,or is it an identity march,it's an anti vt march or is it a anti rebranding march.It's a celebration of a bluebird,whatever that is.
Bu want his money but not him.
It's an embarrassment that's what it is.

Again creating your own walter mitty reality and presenting it as 'truth'

What an absolute load of bollocks this thread is.
At least 4 usernames are roath magic and this Barnett creep and the rest is madeup of people arguing with chuckles which we all know is a lost cause

It's a shame because most of the first page of posters were coming out with valid points, whether it be for or against the OP, but as soon as the Chuckmeister gets involved it degenerates into exactly what you state.

Not my fault that people cannot answer my point about Tan and his direct quote.

This was a good post with good debate until it was Chuckled off the rails.

Stop derailing this thread please.

What people are missing is the fact that the media will not report this March as a celebration of anything, it will be viewed as a protest march! Makes a better news story, for all the good intentions of the March, people are seriously deluded if think it is going to be perceived as anything other than a protest! After all it is widely know that fans are totally apposed to the changing of colour and you cannot escape that fact. A Celebration? only to those marching, to everyone else in the wider world its a protest!

Another assumption. Jez what is it with people assuming the worst when it comes to anything to do with BU..?

What assumption? Why would media report March as a celebration? Just because BU says it is a celebration doesnt mean everyone else will as well. Like said deluded if anyone thinks it will only be seen as a celebration! Its patently obvious it will be seen as a protest by media just because it's good story, there is no story otherwise.

Why are you worried how the media will report it? You know it's a celebration and you're a fellow bluebird, so what's the problem?

What an absolute load of bollocks this thread is.
At least 4 usernames are roath magic and this Barnett creep and the rest is madeup of people arguing with chuckles which we all know is a lost cause

It's a shame because most of the first page of posters were coming out with valid points, whether it be for or against the OP, but as soon as the Chuckmeister gets involved it degenerates into exactly what you state.

Not my fault that people cannot answer my point about Tan and his direct quote.

This was a good post with good debate until it was Chuckled off the rails.

Stop derailing this thread please.

Look who's talking

sven you are entitled to your opinion like everyone else, but You regulary claim to be voicing the concerns of the majority, which lets you down.

My opinion is that our clubs heritage is more important than one glamour tie, no one will even care about Man city in a year, but the hsitory books will record our fight to retain what is OURS.[/quote]

Thanks for allowing me my opinion, fella

Well it's is your opinion, How ever the opinion of a majority is a bit harder to quantify and best left to the pollsters.

I don't 'claim' to be "voicing the concerns of the majority" but if it soothes you to think so then so be it. The facts speak for themselves in that the vast majority won't be on your walk, so it is safe to assume...

Because the majority won't march doesn't mean they agree with your view,always dangerous to assume, there are a number of contributers on this thread who agree with BU but wont be marching

And what will the histor books say about the man who put everything in place for the club to sort out its historic debt (not accumulated by him remember) and take the club to the Premier League?

The history book will mark this event that the club moved away from it's community, which i think you'll find is monumental and unprecedented. The debt still exists, it's not sorted. FACT not opinion.

Somehow I think you will have an answer for that (one that suits your agenda, of course) but the simple fact is that Tan won't change a thing as a result of your march and it is (IMHO, of course) only likely to feed the media frenzy that will surely be at the CCS during a live Sky Super Sunday game

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My agenda is to retain OUR identity , cut through a lot of assumptions, scaremongering and demagoguery from people who don't know what Tan will or won't do. The media will be our friend Sven, they will regulate Tans contempt for our culture by asking questions and making him justify his actions with logic and reason in the great tradition of british democracy not Malaysian subjagation. What is wrong with that?