Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:59 pm
rumpo kid wrote:dogfound wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Bluebird1990 wrote:I'm done with this shit now everyone has been absolute cunts no exceptions, i'm sick to death of both sides and this page needs to die so don't expect a replyman’s crying
yep...but not sure why.
he didn't vote labour because Corbyn wouldn't make a fit leader.
didn't vote Tory because they are scum and Boris is a moron..
so who exactly was he rooting for.
Sick of both sides... it’s a Lib Dem. A very cross one.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:02 pm
rumpo kid wrote:dogfound wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Bluebird1990 wrote:I'm done with this shit now everyone has been absolute cunts no exceptions, i'm sick to death of both sides and this page needs to die so don't expect a replyman’s crying
yep...but not sure why.
he didn't vote labour because Corbyn wouldn't make a fit leader.
didn't vote Tory because they are scum and Boris is a moron..
so who exactly was he rooting for.
Sick of both sides... it’s a Lib Dem. A very cross one.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:06 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:03 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:I can't believe some people are STILL pedalling the Media's Pantomine portrayal of Corbyn as a racist villain.
Ffs Come out from your trenches lads, it's Friday, the The war is over.lol
HE'S BEHIND YOU!!! OH NO HE ISN'T!!!
Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:12 pm
dogfound wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:I can't believe some people are STILL pedalling the Media's Pantomine portrayal of Corbyn as a racist villain.
Ffs Come out from your trenches lads, it's Friday, the The war is over.lol
HE'S BEHIND YOU!!! OH NO HE ISN'T!!!
not a pantomime villain a very dangerous person..
angry anti democracy mob descended on Westminster tonight singing his name
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:17 am
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:21 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:08 am
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:31 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:49 am
JB1 wrote:Thanks to all who've contributed to these election threads. They've been an informative read, with some decent banter and laughs along the way. Hope we can all get on together now, at least we're all agreed on supporting the Bluebirds
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:49 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:01 pm
dogfound wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
the last line...we will see.
demonstrations last night seems to be the norm from the left now and a total non acceptance of democracy.
and tbh it does your party zero favours.. mr and mrs ordinary living 100 miles from London are fed up of watching thousands of ill tempered professional protesters marching against what they have just voted for.. they want their vote respected.. the big message from this election is ignore democracy at your peril yet out on the streets they go , trying to stifle it AGAIN. socialist WORKER my arse...
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:02 pm
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
How could you campaign for the likes of Corbyn, McDonnell or Abbott?
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:05 pm
dogfound wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
the last line...we will see.
demonstrations last night seems to be the norm from the left now and a total non acceptance of democracy.
and tbh it does your party zero favours.. mr and mrs ordinary living 100 miles from London are fed up of watching thousands of ill tempered professional protesters marching against what they have just voted for.. they want their vote respected.. the big message from this election is ignore democracy at your peril yet out on the streets they go , trying to stifle it AGAIN. socialist WORKER my arse...
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:19 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Now the dust has settled..
As a Labour activist, campaign and member this was a very tough result on my party.
The party's position on Brexit and it's Leader are what damaged us the most.
Having a policy of another referendum on a deal will have disillusioned many in the party who voted Leave. We saw that much was obvious last night.
I voted Remain in 2016, I still think Remain is the better option. But ever since that referendum, I've always said the democratic vote should be respected so not been convinced with our policy on that. Last night should put all that to bed, because people overwhelming supported the Prime Minister's plan and I can't see how any party has a right to argue for any further referendums on the subject.
It seems Jeremy Corbyn was not at all popular with voters for a number not reasons. Although I personally didn't hear criticism of him during the last six weeks when I've been campaigning, it sounds like the tone has been a lot different in other areas of the country.
I didn't vote for him in the leadership contest of 2015 but have supported him, including voting for him when Owen Smith challenged him. But his position was untenable with these results.
He has done the right thing by saying he will resign.
A terrible night for the party, no denying that. But I'll go on campaigning for the Labour Party - I did so long before Jeremy Corbyn was leader and will be doing so long after he's gone.
As for the new leader, the only person I see who can unite the party and name us stronger again is Keir Starmer. Just my opinion, and I don't doubt there will be plenty of debate within the party during this process.
I'll continue fighting for the Labour Party. We have to rebuild.
But the election had told us one thing in particular - the country wants to "Get Brexit Done." That has to now be respected by everyone.
How could you campaign for the likes of Corbyn, McDonnell or Abbott?
I didn't. I campaigned for my local Worcester Labour candidate.
Yes, that is effectively a vote for Corbyn and I don't regret any of the campaigning I did in this election.
Whilst I know he has to go, I'm not going to sit here and say I've never liked him because there were aspects of him I did like.
Since he was elected leader, I met him eleven times and he was always very respectful to me.
He has obvious flaws but I can't now say I've never supported him because I would be being a hypocrite - which is what a lot of Labour members are doing on other platforms.
Time for him to go. Ultimately, he will go down as one of the worst opposition and Leader leaders in history. I doubt it will happen, but he needs to take Momentum and the like with him if this party even hopes to be close to power.
Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:20 pm
Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:34 pm
tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:24 pm
Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:47 pm
tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:05 pm
rumpo kid wrote:tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Yes it is democracy.
What is a war nonce?
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:17 pm
pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Yes it is democracy.
What is a war nonce?
Democracy in case of general election is total votes not one particularly area! Why do people who lose have a problem accepting the word democracy and what it means...
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:34 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Yes it is democracy.
What is a war nonce?
Democracy in case of general election is total votes not one particularly area! Why do people who lose have a problem accepting the word democracy and what it means...
Always the same Allan. there are always losers who know exactly how our democracy system works, but unless democracy works in their favour they complain. Not as if we have just started using a brand new system, this is how our elections have been since the late 1800's and there would be no complaints from these people had Corbyn been PM today.
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:54 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Yes it is democracy.
What is a war nonce?
Democracy in case of general election is total votes not one particularly area! Why do people who lose have a problem accepting the word democracy and what it means...
Always the same Allan. there are always losers who know exactly how our democracy system works, but unless democracy works in their favour they complain. Not as if we have just started using a brand new system, this is how our elections have been since the late 1800's and there would be no complaints from these people had Corbyn been PM today.
Protesting about the result of election as well! The remainers have a lot to answer to regarding accepting Brexit vote!
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:31 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:tcblue wrote:It is worth remembering that Wales will again be governed by a party that didn’t win here. Is that democracy?
Just a quick message to all the tommy Robinson war nonces, don’t forget that you are a minority of Cardiff fans.
The city of Cardiff is all Labour, as is the valleys where our support comes from.
Cardiff delivered a remain vote bigger than London.
Now that is Cardiff, the city and the club
Yes it is democracy.
What is a war nonce?
Democracy in case of general election is total votes not one particularly area! Why do people who lose have a problem accepting the word democracy and what it means...
Always the same Allan. there are always losers who know exactly how our democracy system works, but unless democracy works in their favour they complain. Not as if we have just started using a brand new system, this is how our elections have been since the late 1800's and there would be no complaints from these people had Corbyn been PM today.
Protesting about the result of election as well! The remainers have a lot to answer to regarding accepting Brexit vote!
Protesters probably want another vote as they didn't get the result they wanted. How long before Gina Miller takes the voters to court for voting for the wrong party?
Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:49 am
Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:05 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:Labour lost because
1. His seemingly anti West approach
2. His look after the shirkers not the workers
3. His immigration policy
4. His money grows on trees fantasy
5. 200 billion for a deterrent that he would never use ?!?!
6. No clear Brexit strategy
7. Anti semitic tones within the party
8. 10 an hour with immediate effect would cripple some businesses
Concervatives won because
1. They promised the democratic vote on Brexit
2. Australian style immigration policy
3. Sensible spending
Still, they are all for themselves and what is best for them in reality.
Take the SNP and Plaid Cymru... both will be worse off with a split UK and Wales by far will be worse off.
We should stick together and with trade all over the world opening up we can do better things together.