Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:55 pm
Purple in Cwmbran wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:aj1927 wrote:WTF... Of all the players on the planet you want Witts to watch,and you pick Leon (not good Enough for the hammers or blades) Britton..![]()
I am grateful for many things, one being your not on our coaching staff.
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It's not Britton in particular. It would my recommendation for Peter to watch ANYONE who runs in midfield and makes themselves available. Should need to coach that......plenty do it in Sunday Leagues!
mmm my recommendation is? that you go back to swans board and stay there! i am sure they would love your opinion on our midfield player!!![]()
Why would I ever want to go on a Swansea site? My opinion is just that. Where better to express it than on a City forum?
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:57 pm
marlee wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:marlee wrote:I have never heard such twaddle, never seen Whitts play but to crisise Leon is beyond the pale, if England want to push on they need to pick Leon now (not that I give a **** about England)
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now, this IS funny.
Chuckle, you obviously now **** all about football, Spain have won the last three tournaments by playing the small man who can pass the ball in midfield, gone are the days where people like Glenn Hoddle lumps it 60 years, hollywood ball's are so out of date.... one day, you'll get it, one day, Cardiff will get promoted
Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:58 pm
Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:59 pm
Purple in Cwmbran wrote:
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:02 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:aj1927 wrote:WTF... Of all the players on the planet you want Witts to watch,and you pick Leon (not good Enough for the hammers or blades) Britton..![]()
I am grateful for many things, one being your not on our coaching staff.
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It's not Britton in particular. It would my recommendation for Peter to watch ANYONE who runs in midfield and makes themselves available. Should need to coach that......plenty do it in Sunday Leagues!
mmm my recommendation is? that you go back to swans board and stay there! i am sure they would love your opinion on our midfield player!!![]()
Why would I ever want to go on a Swansea site? My opinion is just that. Where better to express it than on a City forum?
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
no he doesnt give his all every game we all know that, but you opinion is based on britton being better that whitts! just by you saying he should look at way britton plays! and you are knocking whitts by saying what you did! and finally way you slanted this topic leans towards you being swans fan its that simple!!
(quote) oh the give away is when you said (you lot) thats us city fans believe whitt gives all! (unquote)![]()
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Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:12 pm
pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:aj1927 wrote:WTF... Of all the players on the planet you want Witts to watch,and you pick Leon (not good Enough for the hammers or blades) Britton..![]()
I am grateful for many things, one being your not on our coaching staff.
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It's not Britton in particular. It would my recommendation for Peter to watch ANYONE who runs in midfield and makes themselves available. Should need to coach that......plenty do it in Sunday Leagues!
mmm my recommendation is? that you go back to swans board and stay there! i am sure they would love your opinion on our midfield player!!![]()
Why would I ever want to go on a Swansea site? My opinion is just that. Where better to express it than on a City forum?
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
no he doesnt give his all every game we all know that, but you opinion is based on britton being better that whitts! just by you saying he should look at way britton plays! and you are knocking whitts by saying what you did! and finally way you slanted this topic leans towards you being swans fan its that simple!!
(quote) oh the give away is when you said (you lot) thats us city fans believe whitt gives all! (unquote)![]()
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and no city fan would put up a post saying whitts or any other player look at how swansea player plays? ffs stupid or what!!![]()
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:14 pm
pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:aj1927 wrote:WTF... Of all the players on the planet you want Witts to watch,and you pick Leon (not good Enough for the hammers or blades) Britton..![]()
I am grateful for many things, one being your not on our coaching staff.
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It's not Britton in particular. It would my recommendation for Peter to watch ANYONE who runs in midfield and makes themselves available. Should need to coach that......plenty do it in Sunday Leagues!
mmm my recommendation is? that you go back to swans board and stay there! i am sure they would love your opinion on our midfield player!!![]()
Why would I ever want to go on a Swansea site? My opinion is just that. Where better to express it than on a City forum?
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
no he doesnt give his all every game we all know that, but you opinion is based on britton being better that whitts! just by you saying he should look at way britton plays! and you are knocking whitts by saying what you did! and finally way you slanted this topic leans towards you being swans fan its that simple!!
(quote) oh the give away is when you said (you lot) thats us city fans believe whitt gives all! (unquote)![]()
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and no city fan would put up a post saying whitts or any other player look at how swansea player plays? ffs stupid or what!!![]()
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:15 pm
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:18 pm
tenerife_blu wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
I'm not contradicting what you say but have you ever thought about why he plays like he does, maybe that's the way Malky wants him to play, now I could also be wrong of course
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:24 pm
Purple in Cwmbran wrote:tenerife_blu wrote:Purple in Cwmbran wrote:
If you lot believe Whitts gives his all, then I beg to differ. Not even knocking him or dissing him. Just suggesting he runs into space to receive a pass.
Not much to ask, surely...............??
I'm not contradicting what you say but have you ever thought about why he plays like he does, maybe that's the way Malky wants him to play, now I could also be wrong of course
TB.....and I can moan a bit about what Malky does too. The lad is playing too deep to be infuential, Malky!
Oh, and Taylor is a cnut of a full back too!! How many times did Conway get dragged back to play their winger? He was outside of Taylor all game. All he does is shout, wave his arms.....and run around like Bambi!
And if he thinks Cowie is better in midfield than Gunnarsun.....![]()
And Mutch will not make it at this or the next level.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:25 pm
angelis49 wrote:It would take a one eyed optimist not to have noticed Whittingham being off the pace in recent matches,hes playing far to deep,his distribution is not as clinical as it should be,and his trademark deadball ability is not as threatening as it use to be,i think Mackay should consider resting him so he can re discover his undoubted ability,do anyone else on here think that the player is looking jaded,and needs to be rested so he can recharge his batteries ?
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:41 pm
Purple in Cwmbran wrote:angelis49 wrote:It would take a one eyed optimist not to have noticed Whittingham being off the pace in recent matches,hes playing far to deep,his distribution is not as clinical as it should be,and his trademark deadball ability is not as threatening as it use to be,i think Mackay should consider resting him so he can re discover his undoubted ability,do anyone else on here think that the player is looking jaded,and needs to be rested so he can recharge his batteries ?
Halla bloody luya!!
Too deep and seemingly happy not to be too involved at the moment......which is why he is not demanding the ball and running into space for it.
Cheers pal.
Not sure I would rest him..........but maybe play him in front of midfield at home. Opposition stuff 5 in there and he is faced with 'influencing' from in front of them. Give them something to consider. Play him behind their midfield and see how many keep a straight midfield line then! They would have to drop one or two back just to cover him! Hudson is capable of bringing the ball forward.
And if Whitts gets the ball there, he can slot balls for Helgursson and Belamy.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:49 pm
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Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:04 pm
waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:12 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:14 pm
waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
that's what i said
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:19 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
that's what i said
No you didn't, you implied that he wasn't good enough for the prem because he wasn't good enough before.
Yet, that would be unfair as he has developed so much since then, and doesn't even play in the same position anymore.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:25 pm
waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:26 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:Whittingham
22 games
7 goals
7 assists
Britton
16 games
0 goals
0 assists
Yes he is playing in a harder league but apart from passing with good accuracy he has done next to nothing for the team this season in an attacking sense. Any pro player should be able to do more than just pass in my opinion.
Britton is rubbish to be honest.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:29 pm
waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
that's what i said
No you didn't, you implied that he wasn't good enough for the prem because he wasn't good enough before.
Yet, that would be unfair as he has developed so much since then, and doesn't even play in the same position anymore.
you can guess and if but and maybe all night but the simple facts are that britton is more than holding his own in the premier league ,and when whittingham played there he wasn't good enough and had to move back down to the lower leagues , is there anything other than truth in those facts
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:30 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
Not at all.
He was playing at a side who at the time were better than Swansea are now. Aston Villa at the time had very good players and were doing well.
Barry, Solano, Hendrie, Hitzlsperger, etc. all better than your current midfield Michu aside but he is more attacking to be honest.
Djemba-Djemba was also ex United so not as if they are going to leave him out. Im pretty sure they also had Milner for a short while that Whittingham was there.
Barry - now at Man City
Solano - unsure
Hendrie - unsure
Hitzlsperger - Played for Stuttgart and Lazio. Now at Everton who are bigger than you.
Djemba-Djemba - ex United.
Milner on loan - now at Man City
Britton wouldn't have gotten into that side either at the time. He couldn't even get in the West Ham team, granted that was also full of youth talent so ill cut Britton some slack. Solano was brilliant for them as was Barry and Hitzlsperger. He only really had one full season at Villa did Whittingham and the next season failed to get a spot due to loanees and players who have now gone on to play at clubs like Man City.
Britton didn't even break into West Ham's first team so he joined you on loan. He is only playing Premiership football now because he suits your style of play and because he's playing for a small club, no offence. No different to Snodgrass at Norwich to be perfectly honest.
In 10 years Britton has scored 10 goals in league games.
In 10 years Whittingham has scored 58 goals in league games.
Also, Britton played at a lower level than Whittingham so he was also playing against easier opposition for a period of his playing career.
Whittingham is also more versatile and can play many more positions and has more to his game.
Britton is a very gifted footballer and in your system he is your metronome and keeps the ball ticking but he is not as good as everyone makes out and Whittingham is the better player out of them both. We are very fortunate that he's settled here because after tearing apart the Championship a few seasons ago in similar fashion to Scott Sinclair, during his period with you, he could have easily moved to a club like Fulham or Everton.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:30 pm
waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
that's what i said
No you didn't, you implied that he wasn't good enough for the prem because he wasn't good enough before.
Yet, that would be unfair as he has developed so much since then, and doesn't even play in the same position anymore.
you can guess and if but and maybe all night but the simple facts are that britton is more than holding his own in the premier league ,and when whittingham played there he wasn't good enough and had to move back down to the lower leagues , is there anything other than truth in those facts
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:38 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
that's what i said
No you didn't, you implied that he wasn't good enough for the prem because he wasn't good enough before.
Yet, that would be unfair as he has developed so much since then, and doesn't even play in the same position anymore.
you can guess and if but and maybe all night but the simple facts are that britton is more than holding his own in the premier league ,and when whittingham played there he wasn't good enough and had to move back down to the lower leagues , is there anything other than truth in those facts
Whittingham broke into the Villa first team and played a whole season there.
Britton couldn't even break into the team at West Ham.
In 2004, Villa finished 6 and Whittingham featured loads for them. In the same season, Britton couldn't even make the first team at West Ham whilst in the Championship. The year before, he couldn't even break into the team that was struggling. West Ham got relegated if I remember correctly in 03.
Stop chatting nonsense.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:41 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:waddle wrote:i think the fact that whittingham has already played in the premier league and wasn't good enough should be taken into account
I think you should take into consideration that he was a lot worse then.
that's what i said
No you didn't, you implied that he wasn't good enough for the prem because he wasn't good enough before.
Yet, that would be unfair as he has developed so much since then, and doesn't even play in the same position anymore.
you can guess and if but and maybe all night but the simple facts are that britton is more than holding his own in the premier league ,and when whittingham played there he wasn't good enough and had to move back down to the lower leagues , is there anything other than truth in those facts
Where have I "if, but and maybe"?
Everything ive posted was fact.
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:43 pm
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:43 pm
waddle wrote:like i said you can if but and maybe all you like but whittingham wasn't good enough , FACT
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:45 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Sheringham not good enough for prem
Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:46 pm
tenerife_blu wrote:waddle wrote:like i said you can if but and maybe all you like but whittingham wasn't good enough , FACT
Whittingham WAS good enough but Villa had better players at the time so he was obviously not going to get in the squad nevermind the team but that doesn't mean that he wasn't good enough for the Premier League does it, he just wasn't good enough for Villa at that particular time because of the players that were at Villa.
By the way I actually rate Leon and he is a great laugh especially at karaoke and he is very much the life of the party so to speakI have been on a night out with him in the past and a few other Swansea players but I'm not going to say the reason why I went out with them