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Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:24 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Chuckles is there a way to get this out ? IE to non message board users. Maybe the echo or even try and get it on the Real Radio sports talk show and give out details on how to sign this petition. Someone who is a good talker and not to come through as confrontational :ayatollah:


I'm in the house today so will get on to it mate. Am building a website just so people can get to the petition easily.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:26 am

jtc wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:what about asking fans of other clubs to sign it?

paul i would happily sign it although this in the main is about ccfc fans who want to return to blue.i,v yet to meet one fan of any club who thinks the rebrand is a good idea for you or football in general



thats the thing, other clubs would get behind this surely as we are basically all in it together, even though this is only happening to us (at the moment) im sure if this link was posted on many other club message boards plenty of people would sign it. For other clubs, we dont have to make it a Cardiff issue, just fans standing up for what they believe in, something Blackburn fans (for example) can understand recently i imagine.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:27 am

Nuclearblue wrote:We are constantly told VT is now in far to deep.They wanted him to splash the cash to get himself stuck in this Club. Well that he has truly done hasn't he. So now not even the most hardcore backer of the re brand can say they are worried VT will get upset and fook off with his money.
So we can now put a little pressure on VT to try and get our blue back. What have we got to loose ?
Only those that actively love and want the red to stay will not want to sign this petition and that is there choice. But me I don't recognise the red kit or the new badge.

Chuckles has any one put this up on Mike's board you will get a lot of takers on there :ayatollah:


Have posted it on Mike's and will email him asking him to "sticky" it.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:33 am

This is a CCFC thing and bringing other clubs into it diminshes its credibility, If we cant get enough of our own to sign it then theres a real problem.

Very well written Chuckle, happily sign that as its anti rebrand but not anti VT/TG....... :ayatollah:

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:52 am

Barry , first of all its a well written statement , nice one.
However,can you tell me how you got to the petition based on your poll results ? No one answered my question on your poll thread so I ask again ? The poll results showed that opinions are split but probably more worrying is the lack of folk that didn't vote.


Good luck anyway

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:55 am

Dicey wrote:Barry , first of all its a well written statement , nice one.
However,can you tell me how you got to the petition based on your poll results ? No one answered my question on your poll thread so I ask again ? The poll results showed that opinions are split but probably more worrying is the lack of folk that didn't vote.


Good luck anyway

could you vote more than once on that poll?

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:59 am

jtc wrote:
Dicey wrote:Barry , first of all its a well written statement , nice one.
However,can you tell me how you got to the petition based on your poll results ? No one answered my question on your poll thread so I ask again ? The poll results showed that opinions are split but probably more worrying is the lack of folk that didn't vote.


Good luck anyway

could you vote more than once on that poll?



Try it , I think you will find its NO

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:06 am

Dicey wrote:
jtc wrote:
Dicey wrote:Barry , first of all its a well written statement , nice one.
However,can you tell me how you got to the petition based on your poll results ? No one answered my question on your poll thread so I ask again ? The poll results showed that opinions are split but probably more worrying is the lack of folk that didn't vote.


Good luck anyway

could you vote more than once on that poll?



Try it , I think you will find its NO

i didn,t vote as i,m not a ccfc fan.if i did i,d vote for blue 100%

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:16 am

why do you have to make a donation if you want to sign the petition..?

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:21 am

Angry Man wrote:why do you have to make a donation if you want to sign the petition..?


You don't.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:22 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:why do you have to make a donation if you want to sign the petition..?


You don't.


opps sorry you are right. My apologies

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:27 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:We, the undersigned, as Cardiff City fans and fans of football in general, believe that the colour blue is synonymous with the club, and has been since the club became known as "Cardiff City Football Club" back in 1908.

We are extremely grateful for the amount of work that Tan Sri Vincent Tan (VT), Datuk Chan Tien Ghee (TG) & their associates have done with Cardiff City FC (CCFC) since they arrived back on 27th May 2010 & their efforts thus far, to guide the club to the Premier League, but we feel that the changes to "rebrand" the club is a step too far.

In May 2012, plans were announced by TG to totally rebrand CCFC and strip the club of its traditional blue shirt to a red shirt with black trim. A change was also made to the club crest and the "dominant" symbol of the club became the dragon. In return for this, VT promised an injection of large sums of cash to put the club on a sound financial footing and to make a real effort for promotion to the Premier League. The club's Malaysian investors believed red to be a more dynamic colour for marketing in Asia, as well as of more national significance in Wales.

it is vital to point out that none of this was planned with any fan consultation at any point.

CCFC had played in blue since 1908. We won the FA Cup and competed in the top flight in those colours, we are the Bluebirds. A huge part of our identity, history and tradition are bound up in the colours, badge and nickname of the club.

We feel that football ownership isn't a business like any other. Dealing with people's hopes, dreams & tradition. 100 years of history & club tradition shouldn't be easily disregarded in order to gain riches or success.

We the undersigned, ask that the colour blue is returned as the clubs primary colour. We feel that the red shirt should be reserved for the away kit, to enable the club to use the shirt to promote the club in Asian markets, which the owners feel is vital for the club's growth.

We also ask that if the club do not wish to return to the original crest, that they consult with the fans to create a new crest to go forward with, incorporating the famous Bluebird.

It must, however, be stressed that we DO NOT WISH to force VT, TG & their associates to leave/abandon the club. We would like to place, on record, our thanks for their contributions to the club and from saving CCFC from certain financial disaster.



I can definitely agree to the way you have written the petition, and it's just about the way i feel about the shirt colour and crap badge, what i am a wee bit worried about is that if any of this (unintentionally) could eventually have any effect on the team performances???

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:32 am

Good idea, but surely 6 months too late

I've signed it

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:37 am

Chuckles, remind people that they don't have to contribute, we done an ipetition last year and the fact that you could donate put people off

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:38 am

cityone wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:We, the undersigned, as Cardiff City fans and fans of football in general, believe that the colour blue is synonymous with the club, and has been since the club became known as "Cardiff City Football Club" back in 1908.

We are extremely grateful for the amount of work that Tan Sri Vincent Tan (VT), Datuk Chan Tien Ghee (TG) & their associates have done with Cardiff City FC (CCFC) since they arrived back on 27th May 2010 & their efforts thus far, to guide the club to the Premier League, but we feel that the changes to "rebrand" the club is a step too far.

In May 2012, plans were announced by TG to totally rebrand CCFC and strip the club of its traditional blue shirt to a red shirt with black trim. A change was also made to the club crest and the "dominant" symbol of the club became the dragon. In return for this, VT promised an injection of large sums of cash to put the club on a sound financial footing and to make a real effort for promotion to the Premier League. The club's Malaysian investors believed red to be a more dynamic colour for marketing in Asia, as well as of more national significance in Wales.

it is vital to point out that none of this was planned with any fan consultation at any point.

CCFC had played in blue since 1908. We won the FA Cup and competed in the top flight in those colours, we are the Bluebirds. A huge part of our identity, history and tradition are bound up in the colours, badge and nickname of the club.

We feel that football ownership isn't a business like any other. Dealing with people's hopes, dreams & tradition. 100 years of history & club tradition shouldn't be easily disregarded in order to gain riches or success.

We the undersigned, ask that the colour blue is returned as the clubs primary colour. We feel that the red shirt should be reserved for the away kit, to enable the club to use the shirt to promote the club in Asian markets, which the owners feel is vital for the club's growth.

We also ask that if the club do not wish to return to the original crest, that they consult with the fans to create a new crest to go forward with, incorporating the famous Bluebird.

It must, however, be stressed that we DO NOT WISH to force VT, TG & their associates to leave/abandon the club. We would like to place, on record, our thanks for their contributions to the club and from saving CCFC from certain financial disaster.



I can definitely agree to the way you have written the petition, and it's just about the way i feel about the shirt colour and crap badge, what i am a wee bit worried about is that if any of this (unintentionally) could eventually have any effect on the team performances???


How? Can't see how the players would let an online petition affect their game..

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:39 am

marlee wrote:Good idea, but surely 6 months too late

I've signed it


Last time a group of people tried something, they got physically threatened.

If we waited until the summer, it would be too late to change kits etc.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:44 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
cityone wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:We, the undersigned, as Cardiff City fans and fans of football in general, believe that the colour blue is synonymous with the club, and has been since the club became known as "Cardiff City Football Club" back in 1908.

We are extremely grateful for the amount of work that Tan Sri Vincent Tan (VT), Datuk Chan Tien Ghee (TG) & their associates have done with Cardiff City FC (CCFC) since they arrived back on 27th May 2010 & their efforts thus far, to guide the club to the Premier League, but we feel that the changes to "rebrand" the club is a step too far.

In May 2012, plans were announced by TG to totally rebrand CCFC and strip the club of its traditional blue shirt to a red shirt with black trim. A change was also made to the club crest and the "dominant" symbol of the club became the dragon. In return for this, VT promised an injection of large sums of cash to put the club on a sound financial footing and to make a real effort for promotion to the Premier League. The club's Malaysian investors believed red to be a more dynamic colour for marketing in Asia, as well as of more national significance in Wales.

it is vital to point out that none of this was planned with any fan consultation at any point.

CCFC had played in blue since 1908. We won the FA Cup and competed in the top flight in those colours, we are the Bluebirds. A huge part of our identity, history and tradition are bound up in the colours, badge and nickname of the club.

We feel that football ownership isn't a business like any other. Dealing with people's hopes, dreams & tradition. 100 years of history & club tradition shouldn't be easily disregarded in order to gain riches or success.

We the undersigned, ask that the colour blue is returned as the clubs primary colour. We feel that the red shirt should be reserved for the away kit, to enable the club to use the shirt to promote the club in Asian markets, which the owners feel is vital for the club's growth.

We also ask that if the club do not wish to return to the original crest, that they consult with the fans to create a new crest to go forward with, incorporating the famous Bluebird.

It must, however, be stressed that we DO NOT WISH to force VT, TG & their associates to leave/abandon the club. We would like to place, on record, our thanks for their contributions to the club and from saving CCFC from certain financial disaster.



I can definitely agree to the way you have written the petition, and it's just about the way i feel about the shirt colour and crap badge, what i am a wee bit worried about is that if any of this (unintentionally) could eventually have any effect on the team performances???


How? Can't see how the players would let an online petition affect their game..


No. not as such, but if this gets momentum (which i think it could) it could become an issue at board level, which is obviously the idea behind it, as long as VT and co can take it for what it is, a return to blue but with no slur on him and his continued financial backing, by the way, i've also signed the petition.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:54 am

Great. Glad you have and respect your views. Would like to think that if it got to board level, it wouldn't affect the playing staff/coaching staff.

Afterall - none of them care for the club in the same way we do, it's just a shirt to them.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:01 am

Never going to work, the ony way it'll change back is if the club make the decision and come forward to the fans with it.

The club are well aware that everyone would prefer Cardiff to play in blue.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:13 am

RFMH wrote:Never going to work, the ony way it'll change back is if the club make the decision and come forward to the fans with it.

The club are well aware that everyone would prefer Cardiff to play in blue.


It may not work, but at least I can say I tried, rather than poking holes on message boards at other people's attempts..

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:25 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Why hasn't a mod made this a sticky yet ? Hmmmm I wonder

No need to, if people are really interested it will stay near top

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:30 am

Not really, people may want to sign and not post.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:08 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
RFMH wrote:Never going to work, the ony way it'll change back is if the club make the decision and come forward to the fans with it.

The club are well aware that everyone would prefer Cardiff to play in blue.


It may not work, but at least I can say I tried, rather than poking holes on message boards at other people's attempts..


Go for it all you want no argument from me, but I'm only being honest, club knows fans want blue, no petition will change that.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:13 pm

In your opinion.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:17 pm

Signed and shared. Although I have bought the new tracksuit top with the new badge

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:24 pm

Any credance the petition had has gone down the swanny now the Banned Councillor has signed it :lol:

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:26 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Any credance the petition had has gone down the swanny now the Banned Councillor has signed it :lol:


You've given your stance on it, so please refrain from posting any inflammatory nonsense aimed at other members and derailing this thread.

Thanks.

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:28 pm

signed and shared :ayatollah:

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:32 pm

signed

Re: BRING BACK OUR BLUE - Online Petition

Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:09 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Any credance the petition had has gone down the swanny now the Banned Councillor has signed it :lol:


You've given your stance on it, so please refrain from posting any inflammatory nonsense aimed at other members and derailing this thread.

Thanks.


Its my opinion. As you keep banging on about, we are all allowed our opinions.