Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:16 am
Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:18 am
jtc wrote:lyndipops wrote:First and foremost you have to have support available to people who have a drink problem and want help.
I think they should also just give people on benefits a chunk of benefit in vouchers to stop alcoholism as surely if your in that position you shouldn't be spending all of it on booze. This and giving out massive fines to shops selling to underage people and regularly spot checking them by sending kids in to buy booze.
Leave the working man alone to have his well earned drink! And no way should you give alcoholics extra money either!!
they,d sell the vouchers lynd.believe me im a recovered alcoholic but when i was boozing if i wanted to drink it would take a hell of a lot to stop me.the mental craving /obbsession when not drinking drives alcoholics mad then once they have a drink they need another.food would be low down on an alcoholics list of priorities.i heard it was an extra tenner a week if you are a registered alki.i never was as i didn,t want the doc having it on his record.i worked but was slipping fast in the end.managed to get help .luckily before it went to the level some go to.i don,t know the answer but some of the crap sold in offies is given away.it,s that cheap.that white cider has never seen a applei feel for the working chap who wants a pint after work.priced out of the pub
Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:57 pm
lyndipops wrote:jtc wrote:lyndipops wrote:First and foremost you have to have support available to people who have a drink problem and want help.
I think they should also just give people on benefits a chunk of benefit in vouchers to stop alcoholism as surely if your in that position you shouldn't be spending all of it on booze. This and giving out massive fines to shops selling to underage people and regularly spot checking them by sending kids in to buy booze.
Leave the working man alone to have his well earned drink! And no way should you give alcoholics extra money either!!
they,d sell the vouchers lynd.believe me im a recovered alcoholic but when i was boozing if i wanted to drink it would take a hell of a lot to stop me.the mental craving /obbsession when not drinking drives alcoholics mad then once they have a drink they need another.food would be low down on an alcoholics list of priorities.i heard it was an extra tenner a week if you are a registered alki.i never was as i didn,t want the doc having it on his record.i worked but was slipping fast in the end.managed to get help .luckily before it went to the level some go to.i don,t know the answer but some of the crap sold in offies is given away.it,s that cheap.that white cider has never seen a applei feel for the working chap who wants a pint after work.priced out of the pub
Well done on beating it mate!![]()
Ive never been an alcoholic but when things were not going my way I used to drink a lot and there is a difference. Proper alcoholism is a lot harder to kick. Ive seen peoples lives torn apart with alcoholism and its an horrific disease once it gets its claws into you.
I think the key is finding something important to you fill the void and getting help. My sister has had a problem but she has beat it for her kids, even gave up cigarettes at the same time and I'm well proud of her, been about a year now.For me it was meeting a woman who helped me get my act together. Since I took up running I have lost my taste for it and rarely drink at all now.
Anti social drinkers are a menace, but I cant see what you can do to totally stomp it out, you can just police it. Putting the cost of alcohol up is going to hit people who just want a harmless drink which is the majority. Its most probably just a revenue building exercise.
As for alcoholics Some people fight it and some people allow it to consume them. I would try not to judge people too much though as you don't know what they have been through, but some people are simply lost souls who seem to have drifted away and don't want to come back.